WeatherPilot wrote:

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

SYR-DEN. Syracuse offered $400,000 as part of the small communities air service initiative to any airline that will offer non-stop service to Denver. Long shot, but one can hope

Does Syracuse even have any gate space? As far as I can remember they're all being used. There's gate 15 of course but they moved JB to the main south concourse so that it was among the rest of the gates and not hidden behind a wall.

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

WeatherPilot wrote:

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

SYR-DEN. Syracuse offered $400,000 as part of the small communities air service initiative to any airline that will offer non-stop service to Denver. Long shot, but one can hope

Does Syracuse even have any gate space? As far as I can remember they're all being used. There's gate 15 of course but they moved JB to the main south concourse so that it was among the rest of the gates and not hidden behind a wall.

Gate 1 isn't being used, plus Gate 11 isn't being used for a couple days of the week when Allegiant isn't there.

whatusaid wrote:

So how many markets have been negatively impacted by today's announcement? FAT-DEN was pushed to 7:10 pm, lost the direct/no connect to ORD, now connects with virtually nothing, and was upgraded to a 321. Wouldn't it be easier to just cancel the route now before it starts? How many other markets have been forced into a "no win" situation with this latest schedule change? Would love to understand their logic, beyond "throw a dart"....

flyfresno wrote:

whatusaid wrote:

So how many markets have been negatively impacted by today's announcement? FAT-DEN was pushed to 7:10 pm, lost the direct/no connect to ORD, now connects with virtually nothing, and was upgraded to a 321. Wouldn't it be easier to just cancel the route now before it starts? How many other markets have been forced into a "no win" situation with this latest schedule change? Would love to understand their logic, beyond "throw a dart"....

I think I'll open a really cheap ice cream stand, but it will only operate between 1am and 4am, January through March, in Fargo. That should do about as well as this schedule...

WeatherPilot wrote:

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

SYR-DEN. Syracuse offered $400,000 as part of the small communities air service initiative to any airline that will offer non-stop service to Denver. Long shot, but one can hope

Does Syracuse even have any gate space? As far as I can remember they're all being used. There's gate 15 of course but they moved JB to the main south concourse so that it was among the rest of the gates and not hidden behind a wall.

maximairways wrote:

Frontier's service at Buffalo seems to be off to a good start with 94% LF, and pending up-gauges to A321.

http://buffalonews.com/2018/02/08/front ... o-airport/

Midex717 wrote:

It was Midwest Airlines not Midway Airlines from MKE.

SunsetLimited wrote:

Of the 35 new routes added, only 2 are year-round (BHM-DEN/MCO). Interesting.

KLMatSJC wrote:

modernArt wrote:

Ha, ha. Austin-Buffalo. That's got to be an early candidate for the most ridiculous route of the year (if there were such a distinction).

I don't know how many people fly between SJC and TUL. That was announced last week.

AirFiero wrote:

KLMatSJC wrote:

modernArt wrote:

Ha, ha. Austin-Buffalo. That's got to be an early candidate for the most ridiculous route of the year (if there were such a distinction).

I don't know how many people fly between SJC and TUL. That was announced last week.

It isn’t about SJC, it’s about nonstop service to the “Bay Area” according to this article...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/fron ... 185a2.html

KLMatSJC wrote:

AirFiero wrote:

KLMatSJC wrote:

I don't know how many people fly between SJC and TUL. That was announced last week.

It isn’t about SJC, it’s about nonstop service to the “Bay Area” according to this article...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/fron ... 185a2.html

Well still. I can't remember if/when there was ever an SFO-TUL flight. Just seems like a weird one to start with.

FATFlyer wrote:

The FAT-DEN schedule change now arrives in Denver at 10:35pm. There are only a handful of potential F9 flights to connect to after that without a passenger having to overnight in the terminal to wait for an early morning connecting flight.

AirFiero wrote:

KLMatSJC wrote:

AirFiero wrote:

It isn’t about SJC, it’s about nonstop service to the “Bay Area” according to this article...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/fron ... 185a2.html

Well still. I can't remember if/when there was ever an SFO-TUL flight. Just seems like a weird one to start with.

FL is doing a big build up at SJC. I’d guess it’s because they have the staff.

What is their service like at SFO?

United_fan wrote:

I wish they would come to ROC. We need some new blood,here .

WNflyer1523 wrote:

United_fan wrote:

I wish they would come to ROC. We need some new blood,here .

I don’t think they would come there anytime soon.
If they did, they would likely do Rochester-Orlando, and the ROC-ORL market already has Southwest and Allegiant. I don’t think there’d be room for a third airline to do that, unless they tried maybe 3x weekly.

WNflyer1523 wrote:

United_fan wrote:

I wish they would come to ROC. We need some new blood,here .

I don’t think they would come there anytime soon.
If they did, they would likely do Rochester-Orlando, and the ROC-ORL market already has Southwest and Allegiant. I don’t think there’d be room for a third airline to do that, unless they tried maybe 3x weekly.

KLMatSJC wrote:

AirFiero wrote:

KLMatSJC wrote:

Well still. I can't remember if/when there was ever an SFO-TUL flight. Just seems like a weird one to start with.

FL is doing a big build up at SJC. I’d guess it’s because they have the staff.

What is their service like at SFO?

During the summer, SJC will have 7 destinations and SFO will have 6. However, SFO has more frequencies in total.

Balloonchaser wrote:

Does anyone see another ISP route possibly coming from this?

FLYKTPA wrote:

I recommend reaching out to ISP's air service director. They may be willing to share some inside info with you. This has worked for me in terms of learning about TPA's routes.

mariner wrote:

FLYKTPA wrote:

I recommend reaching out to ISP's air service director. They may be willing to share some inside info with you. This has worked for me in terms of learning about TPA's routes.

I hope he's very, very careful, because he could be putting his job at risk.

You referred to "inside info" and that's the point. There are solid reasons for confidentiality - it is held that no one outside the company should know any information until everyone knows it. People have gone to jail for spilling insider information, quite famously Martha Stewart.

You may argue that it's just you and you won't tell anyone, but the SEC doesn't take such a benevolent view. In Frontier's case you could say that it isn't publicly traded yet, but that, if anything, makes it worse. It is going to be publicly traded and any insider information could affect the eventual stock price.

mariner

mariner wrote:

FLYKTPA wrote:

I recommend reaching out to ISP's air service director. They may be willing to share some inside info with you. This has worked for me in terms of learning about TPA's routes.

I hope he's very, very careful, because he could be putting his job at risk.

You referred to "inside info" and that's the point. There are solid reasons for confidentiality - it is held that no one outside the company should know any information until everyone knows it. People have gone to jail for spilling insider information, quite famously Martha Stewart.

You may argue that it's just you and you won't tell anyone, but the SEC doesn't take such a benevolent view. In Frontier's case you could say that it isn't publicly traded yet, but that, if anything, makes it worse. It is going to be publicly traded and any insider information could affect the eventual stock price.

mariner

LovePrunesAnet wrote:

overreact much?
the airport's air service director isn't a Southwest employee. He or she is a public servant or works for an airport authority. There's no SEC or "insider trading" dude for an airport employee, geez.

there could be reasons the airport may not share what its tenants future plans are, but it's not for anything remotely close to what you're getting worked up about.

mariner wrote:

LovePrunesAnet wrote:

overreact much?
the airport's air service director isn't a Southwest employee. He or she is a public servant or works for an airport authority. There's no SEC or "insider trading" dude for an airport employee, geez.

there could be reasons the airport may not share what its tenants future plans are, but it's not for anything remotely close to what you're getting worked up about.

If you think it's a good idea to encourage people on a public forum like a.net to get other people in jobs of some authority to blab "insider info," hey, go for it. Not my butt.

mariner

LovePrunesAnet wrote:

My point was your argument made no sense, mixing together the SEC with airport staff not airline staff.

mariner wrote:

LovePrunesAnet wrote:

My point was your argument made no sense, mixing together the SEC with airport staff not airline staff.

The specific point was made by the original poster of "insider info" which, in that case, was airport staff talking about airlines. It doesn't matter where a leak comes from, it'a still a leak.

It doesn't even have to involve the SEC. If someone at an airport is blabbing confidential airline info, especially in this age of social media, it's a problem and it may be that his job is on thin ice.


mariner

LovePrunesAnet wrote:

there could be reasons the airport may not share what its tenants future plans are, but it's not for anything remotely close to what you're getting worked up about.

LovePrunesAnet wrote:

LovePrunesAnet wrote:

there could be reasons the airport may not share what its tenants future plans are, but it's not for anything remotely close to what you're getting worked up about.

ScrantonUSC wrote:

It's a great place to live, but not really to visit.

ScrantonUSC wrote:

The beaches of NC are great though. The Outer Banks and Wilmington area beaches are incredible if you like laid back and relaxing beaches.

WN732 wrote:

FATFlyer wrote:

The FAT-DEN schedule change now arrives in Denver at 10:35pm. There are only a handful of potential F9 flights to connect to after that without a passenger having to overnight in the terminal to wait for an early morning connecting flight.

Wow, way to go F9...