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Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:43 am

Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

The Argentinian authorities have issued a Norwegian operating license (AOC) to Norway's wholly owned subsidiary Norwegian Air Argentina (NAA).

NAA is in the process of building its administration with necessary, government-imposed functions in Buenos Aires and is soon ready to run a flight operation subject to Argentinian authorities.

- This is a new milestone for Norwegian. The approval means that we can soon offer Argentinians flying new, comfortable aircraft at a low price, "says CEO Bjørn Kjos.

"Norwegian has been welcomed by Argentinian authorities seeking more competition in the market. Now it will be fully focused on offering reasonable flights to millions of passengers, which will help create new jobs, drive economic growth and increase tourism, "says Ole Christian Melhus, managing director of Norwegian Air Argentina.


In December 2017, the Argentine Aviation Authority (ANAC) approved the launch of 153 Norwegian routes from Argentina. NAA had applied for approval for a total of 156 routes. Norway's plans for a significant operation from Argentina involve both domestic and international flights. Norwegian has a Boeing 737-800 based in Argentina today.


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http://media.norwegian.com/?_ga=2.10427 ... na-2393410

https://www.dn.no/nyheter/2018/01/27/11 ... -argentina
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:46 am

Norwegian is really expanding
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:55 am

I think that south America is a partly corrupted market where latam and other actors with support of polititians has kept prices high until recent. I read the situation that Argentina has given up it's fight when latam was created an Norwegian might have the force changing the aviation industry in SA.

I'm Shure that latam did not see this coming.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:16 pm

Norwegian Air Argentina needs to get more Aircraft though before they can start operating.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:19 pm

Really wish Norwegian success with this :-)
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:21 pm

olle wrote:
I think that south America is a partly corrupted market where latam and other actors with support of polititians has kept prices high until recent. I read the situation that Argentina has given up it's fight when latam was created an Norwegian might have the force changing the aviation industry in SA.

I'm Shure that latam did not see this coming.


Latam (Lan Argentina 4M for domestic operations within argentina) is not supported by the argentinian gvmnt.

I think your view of South America is a partly influenced by ignorance one.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:07 pm

Mortyman wrote:
Norwegian Air Argentina needs to get more Aircraft though before they can start operating.


Scheduled operations are not planned until May-June for domestic flights and November for international flights; bookings will open in March.

On a related note, Flybondi flew its inaugural scheduled service yesterday, with a COR-IGR-COR rotation.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/lv-hks
 
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Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:04 pm

nachodam wrote:
olle wrote:
I think that south America is a partly corrupted market where latam and other actors with support of polititians has kept prices high until recent. I read the situation that Argentina has given up it's fight when latam was created an Norwegian might have the force changing the aviation industry in SA.

I'm Shure that latam did not see this coming.


Latam (Lan Argentina 4M for domestic operations within argentina) is not supported by the argentinian gvmnt.

I think your view of South America is a partly influenced by ignorance one.


Totally agree. this poster is entirely misinformed, still believing things have not changed in the 26 months since Argentine President Macri entered office. Norwegian Air AR had nothing to do with 'disrupting corrupt state-private relationships'. Those relationships were directly addressed and disrupted by the Macri administration itself. Private enterprise is simply investing and executing business plans resulting from market opportunities the new administration has created. The new government, and its far-reaching, innovative, and reform-oriented policy initiatives were precisely what attracted the likes of Norwegian, FLYBondi, and Avianca to Argentina. Everyone wishes Norwegian great success in developing the Argentine mass consumer aviation market!

The next 5 years in Argentina, along with its regional neighbors, will be very, very, very interesting!

AR sees the 'writing on the wall'. They completely understand their labor unions, their special market protections, their state subsidies, will no longer receive any favorable treatment by the state. AR may very well be sold, or partially privatized to a strategic carrier partner, like G3, AM, or even DL. All are affiliated with, if not directly associated with, the SKYTeam alliance.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:06 pm

olle wrote:
I think that south America is a partly corrupted market where latam and other actors with support of polititians has kept prices high until recent. I read the situation that Argentina has given up it's fight when latam was created an Norwegian might have the force changing the aviation industry in SA.

I'm Shure that latam did not see this coming.



You should read more threads about Latin American aviation ,dude, seriously.
 
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Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:21 pm

The question I have is about the ability of any foreign airline to get money out of Argentina. That has been quite an issue in recent years and several other airlines have vast sums of local currency money locked into Argentina that they will probably never get out - or out at anything close to its appropriate value for when the tickets were sold.

Perhaps Norwegian will never accept local currency, at all.

Have a great day,
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:44 am

2175301 wrote:
The question I have is about the ability of any foreign airline to get money out of Argentina. That has been quite an issue in recent years and several other airlines have vast sums of local currency money locked into Argentina that they will probably never get out - or out at anything close to its appropriate value for when the tickets were sold.

Perhaps Norwegian will never accept local currency, at all.

Have a great day,



This is certainly an issue that hopefully the airline will watch closely.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:21 pm

2175301 wrote:
The question I have is about the ability of any foreign airline to get money out of Argentina. That has been quite an issue in recent years and several other airlines have vast sums of local currency money locked into Argentina that they will probably never get out - or out at anything close to its appropriate value for when the tickets were sold.

Perhaps Norwegian will never accept local currency, at all.

Have a great day,


No offense, but you need to brush up your knowledge of Latin American current affairs and overall grasp of what Norwegian is doing in Argentina.

1. The country you are thinking of is Venezuela, not Argentina. There were a few months in 2013-14 under the former Cristina Kirchner administration when ther supply of US dollars in the country was heavily restricted due to the policies of her government. Two airlines (AA & CM) stopped selling tickets in the local currency. That was the extent of it. There was no money locked in Argentina that airlines had to get out, nor there is now. There are no foreign currency exchange controls in Argentina.

2. Norwegian does not need to repatriate any day to day earnings as Norwegian Air Argentina is a local legal entity, subjects to the corporate laws of Argentina. As such, its good and services will be traded in the local currency as any company operating in Argentina. Of course, Norwegian Air Argentina SA has a corporate relationship with the mothership in Norway and earnings in Argentina will be folded into the bigger picture. But that is no different from what thousands of foreign companies operating in Argentina do every day, from Siemens AG to Clorox, Inc. to BBVA to General Motors.
 
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Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:26 pm

Great news for Argentina,
 
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Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:41 am

Slash787 wrote:
Norwegian is really expanding


Too much, too fast. It might just come back and bite them in the ass.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:49 am

Not sure how easy it is to swap aircraft on and off the Argentinan register, but opposite seasonality to Europe will indeed help with European downtime.

Does Norwegian have a local partner?
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:51 am

BestWestern wrote:
Not sure how easy it is to swap aircraft on and off the Argentinian register, but opposite seasonality to Europe will indeed help with European downtime.

Does Norwegian have a local partner?


If it is for 3-4 months, perfectly doable, and has been done before by AR, bringing in extra capacity for the Southern summer. Anything beyond that it will not be that easy. Besides, the unions will be watching Norwegian and other new entrants to the market like hawks for the slightest non compliance with the local regulations.

Norwegian Argentina is a wholly owned subsidiary of Norwegian Air Shuttle. In other words, they do not have a local partner.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:51 am

Brave to enter a whole New continent with domestic flights and no partner. Hopefully they know what they are doing.

What % of tickets in Argentina are booked directly rather than via the internet?

Secondly, domestic distances in Argentina are huge and catchment numbers quite small - this won’t be easy for them.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:19 pm

olle wrote:
I think that south America is a partly corrupted market where latam and other actors with support of polititians has kept prices high until recent. I read the situation that Argentina has given up it's fight when latam was created an Norwegian might have the force changing the aviation industry in SA.

I'm Shure that latam did not see this coming.


Avianca is not supported by any government either, so stop mumbling. What we did not see coming was your meaningless comment. Everyone is of course entitled to an opinion, just some of then don't make any sense.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:30 pm

Will Norwegian be able to operate from AEP? If so, then that will get interesting for sure.

When LAN entered the market in Argentina in 2005 it shook things up and probably forced AR to upgrade its fleet, improve its image, and turn performance around. Recently flew LATAM Argentina on a domestic flight from AEP to BRC and was sorry to see the level of stupidity and incompetence present in the operation. A 3.5 hour delay due to an electrical problem on an A320, causing the airline to swap planes, which was handled with surprising efficiency, though they did suddenly cancel a flight to Rosario to make this happen. Then stuck at the gate for 2 hours waiting for catering from a kitchen across the tarmac, with a major line of thunderstorms approaching. Perhaps the market needs another shakeup.
 
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Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:18 pm

dcajet wrote:
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2. Norwegian does not need to repatriate any day to day earnings as Norwegian Air Argentina is a local legal entity, subjects to the corporate laws of Argentina. As such, its good and services will be traded in the local currency as any company operating in Argentina. Of course, Norwegian Air Argentina SA has a corporate relationship with the mothership in Norway and earnings in Argentina will be folded into the bigger picture. But that is no different from what thousands of foreign companies operating in Argentina do every day, from Siemens AG to Clorox, Inc. to BBVA to General Motors.


I find amusing that someone is concerned with Norwegian's ability to repatriate money from Argentina. Norwegian Argentina would LOVE to have that problem....

They are still a very long, tortuous and uncertain way from generating profits.
 
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Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:25 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
Will Norwegian be able to operate from AEP? If so, then that will get interesting for sure.

When LAN entered the market in Argentina in 2005 it shook things up and probably forced AR to upgrade its fleet, improve its image, and turn performance around. Recently flew LATAM Argentina on a domestic flight from AEP to BRC and was sorry to see the level of stupidity and incompetence present in the operation. A 3.5 hour delay due to an electrical problem on an A320, causing the airline to swap planes, which was handled with surprising efficiency, though they did suddenly cancel a flight to Rosario to make this happen. Then stuck at the gate for 2 hours waiting for catering from a kitchen across the tarmac, with a major line of thunderstorms approaching. Perhaps the market needs another shakeup.


Norwegian plans to operate from AEP, EZE & EPA. It is Flybondi that will be operating exclusively from EPA.

Back when it entered the market in 2005, LAN was like a Swiss clock: reliable and efficient. But the competition has caught up and now LATAM is a shadow of its former self, at least, domestically within Argentina. Its A320s are not what one would call "brand new" and it shows. I find AR/AU to be streets ahead of LATAM in Argentina when it comes to domestic operations.

It seems like LATAM is content with maintaining its market share in Argentina, but nothing truly innovative any longer. It will be interesting to see how they react to the new realities of the airline business in Argentina.

I thought I'd mention that LATAM Argentina does not fly to Rosario; LATAM Chile, Peru and Brazil do.
 
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Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:39 am

Norwegian Air Argentina has now been assigned an IATA code. DN is going to identify all company flights operated with LV registered aircraft as per IATA’s website.

Another step forward to open ticket sales in May, as announced by the CEO during the official press conference of the new LGW-EZE service.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:40 pm

With the presence of HRH King Harald V of Norway and HRH Queen Sonja, Norwegian Argentina was officially introduced to Argentina this morning during a ceremony at Norwegian's facilities @ EZE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVlWMohvLfQ
 
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Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:23 pm

dcajet wrote:
With the presence of HRH King Harald V of Norway and HRH Queen Sonja, Norwegian Argentina was officially introduced to Argentina this morning during a ceremony at Norwegian's facilities @ EZE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVlWMohvLfQ


Norwegians venture in Argentina is gonna be interesting to follow to say the least ...
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:56 pm

Mortyman wrote:
dcajet wrote:
With the presence of HRH King Harald V of Norway and HRH Queen Sonja, Norwegian Argentina was officially introduced to Argentina this morning during a ceremony at Norwegian's facilities @ EZE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVlWMohvLfQ


Norwegians venture in Argentina is gonna be interesting to follow to say the least ...


It should be noted that the Norwegian Royals are in Argentina on a state visit, not just because of Norwegian. There seems to be a bit of a love affair going on between the two countries right now with business deals popping up every day. And that is just effing great. For a country that during the 12 years of Kirchners was aligned with Chavez/Putin and their posse. this is, IMO, a very welcome change.

Everyone is following Norwegian Argentina with baited breath. The airline sector is watching them very closely and knows they are the one to fear. If the success of its London-Buenos Aires route is any indication. they are off to a very, very good start.
 
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Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:33 am

Norwegian Argentina's LV-HQH has been doing proving flights to some airports such as MDZ and. tonight, COR, where she is seen a few hours ago:

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In addition, this past week officials from the company have been conducting inspection visits at some of the airports they intend to fly to.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:11 pm

After some months of complete radio silence from Norwegian Argentina, the airline has resumed cabin crew recruiting.

"Dear Candidate

We are pleased to invite you to the next stage in the recruiting process:

Norwegian Cabin Crew Screening

The screening usually lasts 8 hours of one day, in which you will be participating in a group exercise and a personal interview. Please confirm your availability using the following link and selecting just one day. Please note that this is a way for us to know that you are available, this is not a confirmation of your participation. Also, be aware that you won’t get an automatic confirmation, so avoid signing up more than one time.

4th, 5th 6th and 7th of July:

Please select a date and add your first & last name, immediately after, you will be asked to enter your email address. Please be sure to use the same email address as your webcruiter profile (the address this email is directed to). We have limited slots available and we work in a first come first served basis. Your attendance will be confirmed by us sending you an e-mail with further information about location and screening time. In case you can’t find a slot available, we’ll keep you in the holding pool and invite you again as soon as more screenings are being scheduled.­­

Please note that you need to hold a valid TCP issued by ANAC. European EASA certifications are not valid. If you show up on the assessment day without a print of the TCP (both sides), you will not be offered an interview.

If you have any doubts or experience any difficulties, please contact us through this mail and we’ll get back to you as soon as possible.

Kind regards
Norwegian Recruitment Team
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:45 pm

LN-HQH has been re registered and put back into service (NAI) with it’s previous tailfin Andres Celsius and reg. EI-FVO. Currently operating a charter D89509.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:50 pm

Why is it in English and not Spanish ? If it is Argentina and not the US ?
 
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:10 pm

NozPerry wrote:
LN-HQH has been re registered and put back into service (NAI) with it’s previous tailfin Andres Celsius and reg. EI-FVO. Currently operating a charter D89509.

It's Anders Celsius. He was Swedish, not Argentinean.
 
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:16 pm

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Why is it in English and not Spanish ? If it is Argentina and not the US ?

It is an excellent way to seed out those who don't master English even to a level where they can read and fill out an application, isn't it?

And you do know that English is not from the US, don't you? ;)
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:28 pm

So, is Norwegian Argentina operating revenue flights?
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:13 pm

BestWestern wrote:
So, is Norwegian Argentina operating revenue flights?


Norwegian Argentina is only a paper airline thus far. Only Norwegian UK operates revenue flights in Argentina.They do, however, have route authorities, are a certified airline under Argentina's laws and the only thing missing is them getting their act together. They continue to maintain the airline will be flying before the year's end (a date they have been moving forward since last year). I suspect with the mothership financial situation and a possible sale to IAG, the mothership has bigger fish to fry. But, then, they are moving ahead with new hires, etc. Your guess is as good as anyone's.

MalevTU134 wrote:
AAR wrote:
Why is it in English and not Spanish ? If it is Argentina and not the US ?

It is an excellent way to seed out those who don't master English even to a level where they can read and fill out an application, isn't it?


:checkmark: :checkmark:

NozPerry wrote:
LN-HQH has been re registered and put back into service (NAI) with it’s previous tailfin Andres Celsius and reg. EI-FVO. Currently operating a charter D89509.


When that 738 returned (on loan they said at the time) to Europe, Norwegian Argentina said they werre thinking of switching to the A321 for its operations in Argentina... :?
 
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:27 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
NozPerry wrote:
LN-HQH has been re registered and put back into service (NAI) with it’s previous tailfin Andres Celsius and reg. EI-FVO. Currently operating a charter D89509.

It's Anders Celsius. He was Swedish, not Argentinean.


Most people would just point out the spelling mistake so thanks :bouncy:
 
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:08 pm

In spite of the relative silence about when the airline plans to start operations, Norwegian Argentina continues to move ahead. Today it was announced the airline's first base of operations will be Cordoba COR ; it signed an agreement with the Province of Cordoba (I'm sure a tax break is part of the agreement signed today).

https://twitter.com/Norwegian_ARG/statu ... 7513623552

COR is fast becoming the natural hub for Argentina, much better located than Buenos Aires for most of the 2/3 of Argentinians that do not live in the Metro Buenos Aires area.
 
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:19 pm

dcajet wrote:
In spite of the relative silence about when the airline plans to start operations, Norwegian Argentina continues to move ahead. Today it was announced the airline's first base of operations will be Cordoba COR ; it signed an agreement with the Province of Cordoba (I'm sure a tax break is part of the agreement signed today).

https://twitter.com/Norwegian_ARG/statu ... 7513623552


Without having any knowledge at all about the agreement, let me just point out that tax breaks are not likely part of the agreement, since very few taxes are paid directly to the provinces in Argentina. Those taxes are basically property, vehicle and some other minor taxes. Unless Norwegian Argentina as a company is registered in Provincia de Córdoba, they are not supposed to pay "ingresos brutos" (income tax) there either, but rather in the province where their head office is registered (I guess that would be CABA (City of Buenos Aires) or Provincia de Buenos Aires?), and that is only once they turn a profit. The Provincia de Córdoba simply doesn't have any tax breaks to offer them.
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:21 pm

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COR is fast becoming the natural hub for Argentina, much better located than Buenos Aires for most of the 2/3 of Argentinians that do not live in the Metro Buenos Aires area.

Oh....and I thought it was a "provincial town"... ;) :bouncy:
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:30 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
dcajet wrote:
In spite of the relative silence about when the airline plans to start operations, Norwegian Argentina continues to move ahead. Today it was announced the airline's first base of operations will be Cordoba COR ; it signed an agreement with the Province of Cordoba (I'm sure a tax break is part of the agreement signed today).

https://twitter.com/Norwegian_ARG/statu ... 7513623552


Without having any knowledge at all about the agreement, let me just point out that tax breaks are not likely part of the agreement, since very few taxes are paid directly to the provinces in Argentina. Those taxes are basically property, vehicle and some other minor taxes. Unless Norwegian Argentina as a company is registered in Provincia de Córdoba, they are not supposed to pay "ingresos brutos" (income tax) there either, but rather in the province where their head office is registered (I guess that would be CABA (City of Buenos Aires) or Provincia de Buenos Aires?), and that is only once they turn a profit. The Provincia de Córdoba simply doesn't have any tax breaks to offer them.


I know for a fact that when the Grupo Aerolineas Argentinas established an Austral pilots' base in Cordoba, some sort of tax break for a period of x years was announced by both AR & Cordoba. Now, I do not the details of which tax specifically was involved (employment? property?).

Norwegian's offices are in Vicente Lopez, not sure if that "partido" (county) is their legal place of incorporation in Argentina. United also has moved its offices out of CABA to Vicente Lopez.
 
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:38 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
dcajet wrote:
COR is fast becoming the natural hub for Argentina, much better located than Buenos Aires for most of the 2/3 of Argentinians that do not live in the Metro Buenos Aires area.

Oh....and I thought it was a "provincial town"... ;) :bouncy:


Shush... Technically it is a provincial capital. :sarcastic:
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:11 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
dcajet wrote:
In spite of the relative silence about when the airline plans to start operations, Norwegian Argentina continues to move ahead. Today it was announced the airline's first base of operations will be Cordoba COR ; it signed an agreement with the Province of Cordoba (I'm sure a tax break is part of the agreement signed today).

https://twitter.com/Norwegian_ARG/statu ... 7513623552


Without having any knowledge at all about the agreement, let me just point out that tax breaks are not likely part of the agreement, since very few taxes are paid directly to the provinces in Argentina. Those taxes are basically property, vehicle and some other minor taxes. Unless Norwegian Argentina as a company is registered in Provincia de Córdoba, they are not supposed to pay "ingresos brutos" (income tax) there either, but rather in the province where their head office is registered (I guess that would be CABA (City of Buenos Aires) or Provincia de Buenos Aires?), and that is only once they turn a profit. The Provincia de Córdoba simply doesn't have any tax breaks to offer them.


Was able to get some info on the agreement between Cordoba and Norwegian:

    * US$200MM investment by Norwegian in Cordoba to create the hub
    * 100 direct jobs to be created by Norwegian in Cordoba
    * Tax breaks (impuesto inmobiliario, Sellos & IIBB) as well as employment taxes (via "aportes")
    * Norwegian will prioritize purchasing to local Cordoba suppliers

Airline is talking about 3 planes based in COR around this year's last trimester. Routes to AEP, MDZ, SLA, IGR & BRC.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:05 pm

dcajet wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
dcajet wrote:
In spite of the relative silence about when the airline plans to start operations, Norwegian Argentina continues to move ahead. Today it was announced the airline's first base of operations will be Cordoba COR ; it signed an agreement with the Province of Cordoba (I'm sure a tax break is part of the agreement signed today).

https://twitter.com/Norwegian_ARG/statu ... 7513623552


Without having any knowledge at all about the agreement, let me just point out that tax breaks are not likely part of the agreement, since very few taxes are paid directly to the provinces in Argentina. Those taxes are basically property, vehicle and some other minor taxes. Unless Norwegian Argentina as a company is registered in Provincia de Córdoba, they are not supposed to pay "ingresos brutos" (income tax) there either, but rather in the province where their head office is registered (I guess that would be CABA (City of Buenos Aires) or Provincia de Buenos Aires?), and that is only once they turn a profit. The Provincia de Córdoba simply doesn't have any tax breaks to offer them.


Was able to get some info on the agreement between Cordoba and Norwegian:

    * US$200MM investment by Norwegian in Cordoba to create the hub
    * 100 direct jobs to be created by Norwegian in Cordoba
    * Tax breaks (impuesto inmobiliario, Sellos & IIBB) as well as employment taxes (via "aportes")
    * Norwegian will prioritize purchasing to local Cordoba suppliers

Airline is talking about 3 planes based in COR around this year's last trimester. Routes to AEP, MDZ, SLA, IGR & BRC.

So, 200 million USD to create a 3-plane hub to fly as an LCC in a very competitive market with a struggling economy? Does that make sense? And where is Norwegian getting that amount of money from? All money is coming from Oslo at the end of the day, and they are not exactly aflush with cash there right now.
 
dcajet
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:50 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
Airline is talking about 3 planes based in COR around this year's last trimester. Routes to AEP, MDZ, SLA, IGR & BRC.

So, 200 million USD to create a 3-plane hub to fly as an LCC in a very competitive market with a struggling economy? Does that make sense? And where is Norwegian getting that amount of money from? All money is coming from Oslo at the end of the day, and they are not exactly aflush with cash there right now.[/quote]

Be it as it may, here's the PR put out today by Norwegian:

Norwegian Air Argentina firmó un acuerdo con la provincia de Córdoba para establecer una base de operaciones.

Es el primer acuerdo de la compañía con una provincia de la Argentina y es un paso más para su establecimiento en la región.
Norwegian apunta a crear allí 100 puestos de trabajo directos en un plazo de dos años.


Buenos Aires, 18 de junio de 2018.

Norwegian Air Argentina, la aerolínea de tarifas bajas, firmó hoy un acuerdo con el Gobierno de Córdoba para establecer una base de operaciones en el Aeropuerto Internacional Ingeniero Ambrosio Taravella. Es el primer acuerdo de la compañía con una provincia de la Argentina y es un paso más para su establecimiento en el país. Además, Norwegian apunta a crear 100 puestos de trabajo directos para trabajadores radicados en Córdoba en un plazo de dos años.

“Nuestros planes para Norwegian en la Argentina son ambiciosos pero también realistas. A través de un crecimiento sostenido vamos a conectar a la Argentina hacia dentro del país, pero también hacia el mundo, atrayendo turismo desde el exterior”, dijo Ole Christian Melhus, CEO de Norwegian Air Argentina.

Y agregó: “Contribuiremos a aumentar el número de pasajeros del sector para que cada vez más gente pueda viajar y más turistas puedan llegar a Córdoba, y así impulsar la economía local y la generación de más empleo”.

Por su parte, Juan Schiaretti, Gobernador de la Provincia de Córdoba, expresó: “Gracias a Norwegian Air Argentina Córdoba pasará a tener conexiones directas con otras ciudades argentinas con las que no teníamos conexión aún. Para nosotros este acuerdo es parte de la consolidación de nuestro hub aéreo”.

En el acto realizado en la Centro Cívico de la provincia de Córdoba estuvieron también presentes el Ministro de Industria, Comercio y Minería Roberto Avalle; el Ministro de Obras Públicas y Financiamiento Ricardo Sosa; el Presidente de la Agencia Córdoba Turismo, Julio Bañuelos y el Ministro de Trabajo, Omar Sereno.

Durante 2017, Norwegian fue la aerolínea de mayor crecimiento, y transportó más de 33 millones de pasajeros a través de sus más de 500 rutas aéreas a más de 150 destinos en todo el mundo. El 14 de febrero pasado, la compañía inauguró un vuelo directo de ida y vuelta entre Londres y Buenos Aires, con cuatro frecuencias semanales.Norwegian, la aerolínea distinguida en 2017 como Mejor Aerolínea de Tarifas Bajas y de Larga Distancia del mundo, fue elegida este año como la Aerolínea de Más Valorada del año por Air Transport World (ATW), la reconocida revista de la industria de la aviación.

Norwegian Air Shuttle ASA, que opera bajo la marca comercial « Norwegian », es una aerolínea low-cost que cotiza en la bolsa de valores de Oslo. Con casi 33 millones de pasajeros transportados en 2017, Norwegian es la sexta mayor aerolínea low-cost del mundo y la tercera mayor low-cost en Europa.

El mapa de rutas de Norwegian se extiende por toda Europa y abarca también el Norte de África y Oriente Medio, así como también vuelos de larga distancia a Estados Unidos y el Sureste Asiático. La empresa cuenta con más de 500 rutas a más de 150 destinos y emplea a más de 9.000 personas en Noruega, España, Suecia, Dinamarca, Finlandia, Estonia, Reino Unido y Tailandia. Norwegian cuenta con un pedido firme de más de 250 aeronaves pendientes de entrega.

Fundada en 1993, Norwegian tiene su sede corporativa en las afueras de Oslo. Norwegian ofrece un espacio de pierna más amplio que la mayoría de aerolíneas, conexión wifi gratuita en los vuelos de corto y medio radio, y una flota de 150 aviones cuya edad media es de tan sólo 3,6 años.
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:52 am

100 direct jobs seems very low to me...
 
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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:50 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
dcajet wrote:
COR is fast becoming the natural hub for Argentina, much better located than Buenos Aires for most of the 2/3 of Argentinians that do not live in the Metro Buenos Aires area.

Oh....and I thought it was a "provincial town"... ;) :bouncy:


COR's platform this AM... and quieter than usual since today's a holiday in Argentina. So yes, you win. No longer a "provincial town". :cloudnine:

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Re: Norwegian has been granted operating license in Argentina

Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:31 pm

Norwegian has started recruitment for Captains and First Officers for its Buenos Aires and Cordoba bases.

https://twitter.com/Norwegian_ARG/statu ... 9270249472

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