Boeing [NYSE: BA] announced today the 787-10 Dreamliner received an amended type certificate (ATC) from the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), clearing the airplane for commercial service.
The awarding of ATC caps a successful flight test program that began in March 2017 and involved three flight test airplanes that accumulated about 900 test hours. Boeing's flight test program team took the airplanes through a series of tests to confirm the airplane's handling, systems and overall performance met internal requirements and certification standards to ensure safety of flight.

MileHFL400 wrote:

So the question is, what will get delivered first? The A350-100 or the 787-10!

Slug71 wrote:

MileHFL400 wrote:

So the question is, what will get delivered first? The A350-100 or the 787-10!

First A35K delivery is next month. So A35K.

MileHFL400 wrote:

Slug71 wrote:

MileHFL400 wrote:

So the question is, what will get delivered first? The A350-100 or the 787-10!

First A35K delivery is next month. So A35K.

To be fair it was supposed to be delivered about 3 weeks ago.

MileHFL400 wrote:

So the question is, what will get delivered first? The A350-100 or the 787-10!

Slug71 wrote:

MileHFL400 wrote:

Slug71 wrote:

First A35K delivery is next month. So A35K.

To be fair it was supposed to be delivered about 3 weeks ago.

It was. There was some issue with the "Qsuite".

https://www.reuters.com/article/qatar-a ... SL8N1PH26I

Reuters from there wrote:

The “complex seat configuration” has had implications on the certification of the aircraft, though the airline had taken ownership of the aircraft late last year, Baker said, without giving details.

ODwyerPW wrote:

Good on Boeing for not waiting too long to offer the simple stretch.
Going forward a few years... we will no doubt see ER/LR/HGW of the 789 and 7810.
Success (or lack thereof) of the 778 will determine if we ever see a followon 7811...

mat66 wrote:

"...that accumulated about 900 test hours"

"The A350-1000 test campaign comprised 1,600 hr. and involved three aircraft" http://aviationweek.com/commercial-avia ... ertificate

I'm just wondering here. Is it 700 hr less because it is already the 3 version of the 787 or because it is a simple stretch with same MTOW and wing?
Don't get me wrong, they are both amply tested and save.

PW100 wrote:

ODwyerPW wrote:

Good on Boeing for not waiting too long to offer the simple stretch.
Going forward a few years... we will no doubt see ER/LR/HGW of the 789 and 7810.
Success (or lack thereof) of the 778 will determine if we ever see a followon 7811...

Agree on the first part (can't wait to see it on an airport near me!). Not to much on the second part.

The 7879 and 7810 are maxed on their MTOW landing gear wise. Going higher is going to be a massive undertaking. Personally I don't see this happening before the next step change in engine tech (GTF?), which I expect somewhere in the 2027 - 2032 time frame at the earliest. A little bit more than a few years.

Of course, Boeing (or the engine OEMs for that matter) may always happily surpirise me!

ODwyerPW wrote:

Good on Boeing for not waiting too long to offer the simple stretch.
Going forward a few years... we will no doubt see ER/LR/HGW of the 789 and 7810.
Success (or lack thereof) of the 778 will determine if we ever see a followon 7811...

PW100 wrote:

ODwyerPW wrote:

Good on Boeing for not waiting too long to offer the simple stretch.
Going forward a few years... we will no doubt see ER/LR/HGW of the 789 and 7810.
Success (or lack thereof) of the 778 will determine if we ever see a followon 7811...

Agree on the first part (can't wait to see it on an airport near me!). Not to much on the second part.

The 7879 and 7810 are maxed on their MTOW landing gear wise. Going higher is going to be a massive undertaking. Personally I don't see this happening before the next step change in engine tech (GTF?), which I expect somewhere in the 2027 - 2032 time frame at the earliest. A little bit more than a few years.

Of course, Boeing (or the engine OEMs for that matter) may always happily surpirise me!

TWA772LR wrote:

Any idea when UA takes their first delivery?

777Mech wrote:

Is the 787-10 in the same weight range as the 35K? I would have thought Boeing would have thrown a triple bogie gear on it like Airbus had to with the 35K.

qf789 wrote:

Singapore Airlines will be the first airline to take delivery of the 787-10 over the coming months

Boeing has scheduled the entry into service for the 787-10 as broadly the “first half of 2018”, but the approval of the amended type certificate now means that the first delivery could happen by the end of the first quarter.

DaufuskieGuy wrote:

so the cost of adding a single center bogey a la the dc10 and 340 would be really big?

ODwyerPW wrote:

Good on Boeing for not waiting too long to offer the simple stretch.
Going forward a few years... we will no doubt see ER/LR/HGW of the 789 and 7810.
Success (or lack thereof) of the 778 will determine if we ever see a followon 7811...

lightsaber wrote:

Congrats! Is this both engines or just RR? (Yeah... I'm being lazy...)

spiah wrote:

Woot! Onwards and upwards. Next up, MAX 7

lightsaber wrote:

Congrats! Is this both engines or just RR? (Yeah... I'm being lazy...)

I wanna say it's for both. At least, I haven't seen anything saying otherwise.

ikolkyo wrote:

spiah wrote:

Woot! Onwards and upwards. Next up, MAX 7

lightsaber wrote:

Congrats! Is this both engines or just RR? (Yeah... I'm being lazy...)

I wanna say it's for both. At least, I haven't seen anything saying otherwise.

MAX 9 is next actually.

lightsaber wrote:

Boeing probably will find a few tons of MTOW, a ton of weight reduction, and we haven't seen the end of PIPs.
Lightsaber

lightsaber wrote:

Boeing probably will find a few tons of MTOW, a ton of weight reduction, and we haven't seen the end of PIPs.
Lightsaber