Cabin looks roomy!

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/wideroe ... r-e190-e2/

Some excerpts:
- "...To us as an airline, it’s extremely important that we don’t train our crew in too many different aircraft types. Embraer allows us to train our pilots and have them capable of flying different variants.”
-"..The 2-2 configuration of the E190-E2 is a big selling point for Wideroe."
-"..Some of the sectors we are currently flying are not suitable for the Q400. The longest route takes about 2.5 hours on that plane. The E2 will allow us to further develop those routes by increasing capacity and dropping the flying time to under 2 hours in average.”
-"The E175-E2 suits perfectly to our needs in the future."
-"We chose the E2 family over the CSeries because the CS100 is a large plane. It’s not fit for our market."
-"The E2 performs better than expected, and we see that it also performs better than the CSeries.”

EMBSPBR wrote:

Samrnpage wrote:

Does the E2 share type certification with the E1?

No, it does not.
It is a new certification.

Please refer to post #63:

"Now it´s oficial:
Source: https://embraer.com/global/en/news#/714 ... a-and-easa

https://embraer.com/global/en/news#/714 ... a-and-easa

The new Embraer commercial aircraft, the E190-E2, received the operational certification of
ANAC (National Civil Aviation Agency), FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) and EASA (Europeans Aviation Safety Agency) on Wednesday 28, 2018."

not true, the main advantage to modernize instead of clean-sheet design is to keep the same type certificate...

https://sistemas.anac.gov.br/certificac ... 13-23i.pdf

I love everything apart from the cockpit - specially the fur seats!

queb wrote:

not true, the main advantage to modernize instead of clean-sheet design is to keep the same type certificate...

https://sistemas.anac.gov.br/certificac ... 13-23i.pdf

Maybe something related to semantics ???

Source:
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... e2-446320/

Embraer gains certification for E190-E2

"Four E190-E2 prototype aircraft completed over 2,000h in flight testing, and 45,000h of ground tests.
The aircraft was certified by Brazil's civil aviation authority ANAC, the European Aviation Safety Agency and the US Federal Aviation Administration."

EMBSPBR wrote:

queb wrote:

not true, the main advantage to modernize instead of clean-sheet design is to keep the same type certificate...

https://sistemas.anac.gov.br/certificac ... 13-23i.pdf

Maybe something related to semantics ???

the question was if E1 and E2 share the same type certification, the answer is yes. The E1 name is ERJ 190-100/200 and the E2 is ERJ 190-300.

queb wrote:

the question was if E1 and E2 share the same type certification, the answer is yes. The E1 name is ERJ 190-100/200 and the E2 is ERJ 190-300.

Ok.
Correted.
Same type certificate ?
Answered: yes.
Corrected.

Same plane: definitely no ...
New certification process required ?
Yes.

EMBSPBR wrote:

queb wrote:

the question was if E1 and E2 share the same type certification, the answer is yes. The E1 name is ERJ 190-100/200 and the E2 is ERJ 190-300.

Ok.
Correted.
Same type certificate ?
Answered: yes.
Corrected.

Same plane: definitely no ...
New certification process required ?
Yes.

Err...
1. New engines require re-certification.
2. New wing requires re-certification
3. New c.g. limits requires a sub-set of certification, I do not know if the E2-190 limits were enough... irrelevant with a new wing
4. New avionics require a sub-set of certification.
5. New avionics software of the magnitude requires about half of certification.
6. New actuators.

All the other new goodies require testing, but of far less concern.

The E2-190 is a wonderful improvement. But what wasn't recertified:
1. Landing gear, a very expensive recertification
2. Basic cockpit layout (excludes screens/controls).
3. Exits (no evacuation training)

and so on....
question, are the brakes new?
Tires?
Circuit breakers (unlikely due to all the changes, but why not ask)?

What is the status of the iron bird?

Lightsaber

lightsaber wrote:

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The E2-190 is a wonderful improvement. But what wasn't recertified:
1. Landing gear, a very expensive recertification

Talking about landing gear:

- great movie ...

https://www.facebook.com/wideroe.no/vid ... 367038816/

lightsaber wrote:

Err...
1. New engines require re-certification.
2. New wing requires re-certification
3. New c.g. limits requires a sub-set of certification, I do not know if the E2-190 limits were enough... irrelevant with a new wing
4. New avionics require a sub-set of certification.
5. New avionics software of the magnitude requires about half of certification.
6. New actuators.

I notice in a photo on the previous page that the cabin doors have been altered from the original Ejet family. The main operating lever has been modified and it looks like the arming mechanism is completely different (lever on the right rather than combined arming/vent flap levers under a cover). Would this also require some sort of re-certification?

Nean1 wrote:

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/wideroe-sees-bright-future-embraer-e190-e2/

Some excerpts:

-"We chose the E2 family over the CSeries because the CS100 is a large plane. It’s not fit for our market."
-"The E2 performs better than expected, and we see that it also performs better than the CSeries.”

The E2 family sounds very impressive, Bombardier better watch out!

New era starts for Widerøe today:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1390665

Live stream now:

https://www.facebook.com/Embraer/videos ... 592462067/

This is a great day today to all Embraer´s employees !!!

Congratulations to all staff involved in this wonderful project !!!

Success and long life to E-Jets-E2 family !!!!

This is the Embraer´s spirit:

Source:https://twitter.com/hashtag/E2profithunter?src=hash

"To the tunes of “I believe I can fly” and “Brasil”, the ecstatic @embraer staff danced a coreography as the keys of the plane were delivered to its new owner.

This has to be one of the most energetic plane deliveries ever."

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/981533256649764864

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/981533848893870080

Wideroe: we got the keys !!!

a) Operating costs: "... Comparing the E2 family with the CS100, the E190-E2 is 1% less efficient in terms of cash per seat and 7% cheaper per trip.

The E195-E2 shows an increase of 2% per trip and a saving of 10% per seat. When placed against the CS300, the E195-E2 saves 10% per trip and 3% per seat ... "

Interesting info, thanks!

So basically, the E19x-E2 will give you CSeries-like CASM on a smaller airframe.

I wish they could have made the seats look a little more intune with the Wideroe brand. Maybe a green headrest or a green stripe on the headrest? Looks rather bland as is.

EMBSPBR wrote:

lightsaber wrote:

[

The E2-190 is a wonderful improvement. But what wasn't recertified:
1. Landing gear, a very expensive recertification

Talking about landing gear:

- great movie ...

https://www.facebook.com/wideroe.no/vid ... 367038816/

Man, keep looking at other videos. How about a wing attachment for the E2-190?
https://www.facebook.com/wideroe.no/vid ... 361513816/

Lightsaber

lightsaber wrote:

EMBSPBR wrote:

lightsaber wrote:

The E2-190 is a wonderful improvement. But what wasn't recertified:
1. Landing gear, a very expensive recertification

Talking about landing gear:
- great movie ...

https://www.facebook.com/wideroe.no/vid ... 367038816/

Man, keep looking at other videos. How about a wing attachment for the E2-190?
https://www.facebook.com/wideroe.no/vid ... 361513816/

Lightsaber

Lightsaber, that's why I love the aerospace industry that is so intrinsic. ...

Sometimes the arrangements are so bold and when we look at the final product we can not even imagine that it has gone through different constructive techniques ...

zkojq wrote:

I wish they could have made the seats look a little more intune with the Wideroe brand. Maybe a green headrest or a green stripe on the headrest? Looks rather bland as is.

Unfortunately this is an airline choice ...

And, in the "wave" of the party ...

Source: https://economia.uol.com.br/noticias/re ... residente- of-company.htm

"Embraer's president, Paulo Cesar de Souza e Silva, said on Wednesday that a company's partnership with Boeing is not vital to the future of the Brazilian aircraft manufacturer, although it continues in discussions with the North American company about a model of alliance that can be accepted by all parties involved, including the Brazilian government.

"The partnership with Boeing is not vital to Embraer," said the executive at a ceremony to deliver the first airplane of the new family of passenger jets, an E190 -E2 for the Norwegian airline Widerøe."

Wideroe crew:

Source: https://thepointsguy.com/news/wideroe-d ... t-e190-e2/



Excerpt:

"On Monday, April 9, LN-WEA will depart from São José dos Campos (SJK) for Recife, Brazil (REC), which is where it will receive certification to leave Brazil.
Then, it’ll head for Las Palmas (LPA), before continuing on to Aberdeen (ABZ).
Then, on Thursday, April 12, LN-WEA will enter Norwegian airspace for the first time on the final leg of its delivery between ABZ and Bergen (BGO).
In all, the four-stop journey will total 6,533 miles via Recife, Las Palmas in the Canary Islands and Aberdeen."

Source:https: //thepointsguy.com/news/wideroe-delivery-of-first-e190-e2/

Excerpt:

"With the United States being one of Embraer’s largest markets, there’s possibility that US-based flyers could see the E2 at homr soon.

JetBlue has been rumored to be eyeing an E2 order, as it decides between either the new Embraers and the Bombardier CSeries to replace its fleet of older E190s.

JetBlue CEO Robin Hayes was seen at Embraer’s headquarters this week, and Slattery confirmed that CEOs from other prominent airlines will be making visits to São Jose dos Campos — as soon as this week."

Source :https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air-transport/2018-04-04/embraer-delivers-first-e190-e2-wideroe

Embraer Delivers First E190-E2 to Wideroe

Excerpt from interview in the cerimony with Embraer CEO Paulo Cesar de Souza e Silva:

“We are not at all afraid to compete with the narrowbodies,” said Silva.
“We do believe that we have a very efficient, if not the most efficient family of aircraft in the segment from 70, 80 to 150 seats. However, we have to be mindful of the dynamics of the market.”

"Silva added that Embraer does not feel any desperation to move ahead with a tie-up, given the strong financial position in which the company finds itself following six to eight years of investing 10 percent of its revenues in new products and business structures."

r2rho wrote:

a) Operating costs: "... Comparing the E2 family with the CS100, the E190-E2 is 1% less efficient in terms of cash per seat and 7% cheaper per trip.

The E195-E2 shows an increase of 2% per trip and a saving of 10% per seat. When placed against the CS300, the E195-E2 saves 10% per trip and 3% per seat ... "

Interesting info, thanks!

So basically, the E19x-E2 will give you CSeries-like CASM on a smaller airframe.

What distances are we talking about here?
Can't imagine the E2-195 is that much better over longer segments.

Source: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... fs-october

Embraer E190-E2s To Get Fully Compliant GTFs by October

Excerpts:

"Pratt & Whitney expects to begin delivering PW1900G geared turbofans with more durable Combustor C packages to Embraer after E190-E2 launch customer Wideroe takes the first three examples of its 114-seat configured narrowbodies fitted with the current Combustor B configuration."

"The engine company will do the same for all in-service Bombardier C Series airplanes, whose PW1500Gs closely resemble the engines in the Embraer E-Jets and Mitsubishi MRJ."

"Speaking just ahead of the delivery ceremony in São Jose dos Campos, E-Jet program director Fernando Antonio Oliveira expressed satisfaction with Pratt & Whitney’s level of responsiveness and praised the engine for its performance and fuel consumption rates."

This is the Embraer spirit:

Mr. Stein Nielsen, Wideroe CEO, inside their first E190-E2:

First E190-E2 to Wideroe on its way do the customer´s home

Source: http://atwonline.com/aircraft-orders-de ... 300485dfec

Norway's Widerøe looks south with new Embraer E190 E2s


The first Widerøe E190 E2 is ceremonially rolled into a hangar at Norway’s Bergen Airport as the aircraft
arrives prior to entering service later this month.

Excerpts:

"Norwegian regional carrier Widerøe is likely to expand its new fleet of Embraer E2 regional jets with a mix of models, the airline’s CEO said April 12. Widerøe is lead customer for the first model in the three-aircraft range, the E190 E2."

“I think the most likely scenario is a combination of E175 E2s and the E190 E2,” Nilsen said. “It’s all about right-sizing; it’s a key issue for us.”

Serious question, when will the E2 jets have flown more (hours or cycles) than the ARJ-21? Embraer makes good aircraft that will fly 8+ hours and 6+ cycles per day per aircraft.

The ARJ fleet is flying 4 cycles and 6 hours per day. Yes, the whole fleet... Or 1 cycle and 1.5 hours per aircraft.

I figure before the end of 2018. Anyone taking the over?

Lightsaber

Nean1 wrote:

Are you aware of the changes that have been made in the cargo hold compartment? What about the height, it would also increased 1 inch over the aisle (2.00 m in E1)?

Nean, the article below give some insights on the changes made on E2:

Source: https://airinsight.com/will-embraers-e- ... to-the-e2/

Will Embraer’s E-Jets Maturity Transition to the E2?

Excerpts:

Lessons Learned:

Embraer interviewed its customers for suggestions on improving the E-Jet and received more than 1,000 different suggestions. Of these, 97% were evaluated, and 94% implemented. Because operators understand best where potential bottlenecks or inefficiencies occur, Embraer sought out their advice to eliminate problems with the new aircraft before it entered service, based on the experience of 70 E1 operators in 60 counties around the world."

Cargo compartment:

"Even the cargo compartment of the E2 has been improved, with new flat and curved floor sections and new materials utilized. One example is removing metallic strips between two panels and replacing it with a high resistance tape to eliminate protruding edges. In this area, Embraer has listened to its customers to improve baggage loading and unloading."

And some interesting numbers about the E1 family:

"Embraer’s E-Jets series have accumulated more than 23 million flight hours, and have achieved a dispatch reliability of 99.52%. Their goal is to have the E2 quickly reach operational maturity after entry into service and achieve the same level of success, with a goal of 99% dispatch reliability before 12 months in service."

New pics from the first Wideroe´s E190-E2:

First impressions on flight from Aberdeen to Scotland:

Source: https://airinsight.com/taking-the-first-e2-home/

Taking the first E2 home

Excerpts:

"If I had to summarize my first impression of the E190-E2 in just one word, that would be, simply, quietness."

"The large capacity of the overhead bins, the availability of electricity sockets at every seat to recharge your electronic devices and, of course, the E-Jet traditional two-abreast layout, all add up to the experience."

"An anecdote that, nevertheless, may be indicative of the E2 performance: the aircraft did not need any refueling in Aberdeen to make it to Bergen after the long leg from the Canary Islands.
And, yes, it was not a fully loaded flight, but still, it seems that the E2 is over-delivering on quite a few fronts."

Good luck to them, hopefully a smooth EIS.

Reckon they've a better chance of reduced engine gremlins compared to the others.

Amiga500 wrote:

Good luck to them, hopefully a smooth EIS.

Reckon they've a better chance of reduced engine gremlins compared to the others.

Hope so ...

Source: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... fs-october

"Embraer E190-E2s To Get Fully Compliant GTFs by October"

Excerpt:

"Pratt & Whitney expects to begin delivering PW1900G geared turbofans with more durable Combustor C packages to Embraer after E190-E2 launch customer Wideroe takes the first three examples of its 114-seat configured narrowbodies fitted with the current Combustor B configuration.
Speaking with AIN after the April 4 delivery ceremonies for the first E190-E2 at Embraer’s main production plant in São Jose dos Campos, Brazil, Pratt & Whitney vice president of commercial engine programs Graham Webb said that the company continues to work on the software associated with the new combustors, and that once it completes the job—likely in September—mechanics will remove the engines from the three aircraft and install engines fitted with Combustor C in October."

Great news:

Sorce: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... mbraer-e2s

"Wideroe Keen on Exercising Rights for More Embraer E2s"

Excerpts:

"Norwegian regional airline Wideroe anticipates converting the purchase rights it holds for 12 Embraer E2 series jets, and initial work to analyze the time frame and variant could start after the summer. “The focus right now is getting the first three E190-E2s [we have on firm order] in service and to a stable operation. This is a huge jump for us,” Wideroe CEO Stein Nilsen told AIN onboard the airline’s first E190-E2 ferry flight from São Jose dos Campos to Bergen. Wideroe serves as the launch operator of the type and expects to receive the second aircraft in May and the third in June."

"Wideroe’s options offer the flexibility to convert them to firm orders for any variant and the final order will most likely involve a mix of E190-E2s and the smaller E175-E2s, Nilsen noted. Embraer plans to deliver the first E175-E2 in 2021. Nilsen called the variant’s passenger capacity of 80 to 90 “very interesting” for Wideroe and a good fit in the airline’s “rightsizing” strategy. The airline plans to deploy the E190-E2s on the thicker and longer routes."

Flying the machine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuD0ywpXId4

April 24th., 2018: first commercial flight this morning of an Wideroe´s E190-E2 from Bergen to Tromso (full flight) !!!

Source:https://embraer.com/global/en/news#/906337-norways-widere-completes-first-revenue-flight-of-an-embraer-e190-e2

04/24/2018 - Norway’s Widerøe completes first revenue flight of an Embraer E190-E2

Bergen, Norway, April 24, 2018 – Widerøe, Scandinavia’s largest regional airline, completed the first scheduled passenger flight of an Embraer E190-E2 this morning. The aircraft, registered LN-WEA and operating as flight WF622, departed Bergen Airport on time at 7:35 AM and arrived at Tromsø Airport two hours later at 9:35 AM local time. The flight was sold out.

Today’s flight marks the official entry into service of the first of three new E-Jets E2s that Embraer has developed to succeed its first-generation E-Jets. Deliveries of the larger E195-E2 are planned to start in 2019, and in 2021 for the smaller E175-E2.

“This is a truly historic day for the E-Jets program and for Embraer,” said John Slattery, President & CEO, Embraer Commercial Aviation. “The first revenue flight is the crowning achievement of years of hard work and planning. I know Widerøe’s customers are going to love flying on a such a green airplane.”

Widerøe passengers experienced a quiet, environmentally-friendly flight on the 672 nm sector. The E190-E2 has the lowest external noise and emissions levels of any aircraft in its category and burns 17.3% less fuel than the current-generation E190.

The completely redesigned and pleasant E2 cabin interior features new acoustic treatments, an improved quiet air conditioning system and more stowage space. In some flight conditions, cabin noise levels in the E2 are 50% lower than in the main competitor.

The lowest community noise margins in the airline industry were achieved through a combination of low-drag and low-noise airframe design with outstanding field performance. These features reduce required engine thrust making the E2 much quieter during approach and take-off.

Stein Nilsen, Widerøe’s President & CEO, spoke after the flight landed. “Today, we’re celebrating the beginning of a new era for Widerøe. It’s the first jet in our fleet. And we’ll always have the distinction of being the first airline to fly the E2. We see a bright future with our new E2 jets.”

Widerøe will receive two more E190-E2s this year. It holds purchase rights for an additional 12 E2s. The total value of the order is approximately USD 873 million if all rights are exercised.

Embraer is the world’s leading manufacturer of commercial jets up to 150 seats. The Company has 100 customers from all over the world operating the ERJ and the E-Jet families of aircraft. For the E-Jets program alone, Embraer has logged more than 1,800 orders and 1,400 deliveries, redefining the traditional concept of regional aircraft by operating across a range of business applications.

I've been so distracted by the CS drama and hype that I've really overlooked the E2.
Very well done.
Congratulations to EMB, and Brazil!

Just after landed in Tromso from Bergen this morning.
First commercial flight of the E2.
Congratulations to all involved !!!