capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:41 pm

EDV 3515 has diverted to IAD after missed approach at JFK. OZ 222 also missed approach as well as TAM 8102. Tower reporting gain of 20-35 knots
 
capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:42 pm

In addition, Virgin 3N is leaking fuel on approach.
 
User avatar
N62NA
Posts: 4334
Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:05 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:44 pm

Sounds like a busy day "at the office" there at JFK today.
How come I can't upload an avatar photo to my profile?
 
ilovelamp
Posts: 152
Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:45 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:45 pm

That and RVR is down to 600-700. Probably the main reason EDV diverted since that’s way below their mins.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:46 pm

capitalflyer wrote:
In addition, Virgin 3N is leaking fuel on approach.


Landed uneventfully
 
capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:51 pm

capitalflyer wrote:
EDV 3515 has diverted to IAD after missed approach at JFK. OZ 222 also missed approach as well as TAM 8102. Tower reporting gain of 20-35 knots


OZ 222 trying again. And in.

Issue is also RVR - Runway Visual Range. Only around 1000 feet and when combined with shear below threshold for some.
 
capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:53 pm

capitalflyer wrote:
EDV 3515 has diverted to IAD after missed approach at JFK. OZ 222 also missed approach as well as TAM 8102. Tower reporting gain of 20-35 knots


It appears TAM 8102 has diverted to IAD as well.
 
capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:19 pm

CX830 just missed approach, going around for 2nd attempt.
 
capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:20 pm

AF022 missed approach, going around for 2nd attempt.
 
flyguy84
Posts: 538
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:26 pm

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:26 pm

KAL081 going missed, wind shear.
 
CapitalAvGeek
Posts: 81
Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:45 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:31 pm

CX830 diverting to IAD
 
capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:31 pm

B6 717 going around, as well as AA67, SU100, KE081, ...
 
Atlwarrior
Posts: 243
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:42 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:33 pm

Yikes delays over 2 hours now.
 
capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:34 pm

B6 717 is headed back to BOS (oh boy), and CX830 looks like it is headed to IAD.
 
CapitalAvGeek
Posts: 81
Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:45 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:38 pm

Now MU587 is diverting to IAD after only a couple of circles.
 
capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:42 pm

JFK has had a bad January to say the least.
 
Atlwarrior
Posts: 243
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:42 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:48 pm

KAL 081 should just go to ATL, it appears to keep circling.
 
User avatar
readytotaxi
Posts: 5374
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:09 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:51 pm

WN1555 must have done 10 laps above ISP now diverting IAD. Going back further than where they started from. :(
you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
Growing older, but not up.
 
User avatar
aemoreira1981
Posts: 1719
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:17 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:58 pm

I should also note that JFK is inundated with fog and rain, leaving only the 22s as available for use with winds from the south.

AF22, SU100, and KE81 all landed on their second attempts after circling.

In another hour, the airfield will completely go to pot with heavy rains, which are already battering EWR.
 
GolfBravoRomeo
Posts: 98
Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:12 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:48 pm

BA 117 diverted to BOS an is headed back to JFK after an an hour and half on the ground.
 
devron
Posts: 186
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:56 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:49 pm

B6 502 also going to BOS but seems to be under control now
 
User avatar
flymco753
Posts: 2564
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:09 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:51 pm

I believe more snow is on tap for the NYC Area? Hopefully everything goes smooth than or we have a repeat of what happened last week.
Resort, and other ground transportation options are on level 1.

*Future Route Network Planner*
 
danj555
Posts: 151
Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:16 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:55 pm

Will the a380s have any trouble?
 
shantahan
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:53 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:05 pm

Jetblue 26 diverted to ewr
Tpa-jfk
 
shantahan
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:53 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:10 pm

EK201, an a380 from DXB, is on approach now
 
shantahan
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:53 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:16 pm

AM408, B788, diverted to IAD
MEX-JFK
 
User avatar
neomax
Posts: 713
Joined: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:26 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:17 pm

capitalflyer wrote:
JFK has had a bad January to say the least.


That is the understatement of the century, and we’re not even halfway through January!
 
User avatar
Super80Fan
Posts: 916
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:14 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:17 pm

Where's the usual suspects saying "Jetblue should be in complete control of this"?
RIP McDonnell Douglas
 
shantahan
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:53 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:25 pm

AM414, E190, diverted to EWR
MTY-JFK
 
User avatar
aemoreira1981
Posts: 1719
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:17 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:50 pm

flymco753 wrote:
I believe more snow is on tap for the NYC Area? Hopefully everything goes smooth than or we have a repeat of what happened last week.


All rain since it's about 60 degrees. However, tomorrow night, it dips back to 15 degrees. (All temps Fahrenheit.)

At least with diversions to Newark, passengers can choose to terminate there and take the train to NYC. This also underscores the need for a new Terminal A at EWR.
 
DiamondFlyer
Posts: 2822
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:50 pm

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:51 pm

ilovelamp wrote:
That and RVR is down to 600-700. Probably the main reason EDV diverted since that’s way below their mins.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


As if that's an 9E problem. That's Cat 3 category level ILS. Very few regional airlines are equipped for that
From my cold, dead hands
 
User avatar
m0ssy
Posts: 99
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:30 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:54 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
Where's the usual suspects saying "Jetblue should be in complete control of this"?


I'm sure if it was ATL it would all be Delta's fault too, since they control the weather down there as well. :roll: ;)

:duck:
 
ilovelamp
Posts: 152
Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:45 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:58 pm

DiamondFlyer wrote:
ilovelamp wrote:
That and RVR is down to 600-700. Probably the main reason EDV diverted since that’s way below their mins.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


As if that's an 9E problem. That's Cat 3 category level ILS. Very few regional airlines are equipped for that


I’m well aware of that. I didn’t say they were the only one impacted by the low RVR. They were the only regional flight mentioned in the OP.
 
capitalflyer
Topic Author
Posts: 437
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:38 pm

AA148 just missed approach.
 
devron
Posts: 186
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:56 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:24 pm

and now B6 1528
 
devron
Posts: 186
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:56 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:30 pm

devron wrote:
B6 502 also going to BOS but seems to be under control now


B6 502 and B6 26 seem to be on the road agian from BOS and EWR
 
Brick
Posts: 1616
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 1999 11:08 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:59 pm

jetBlue 26 is back in a holding pattern for JFK. Was diverted to EWR earlier (scheduled routing was TPA-JFK).
A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man...
 
User avatar
jfklganyc
Posts: 4795
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2004 2:31 pm

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:14 pm

They stopped all arrivals and departures from 12-1230 ET today due to WS. Long taxi
 
User avatar
Web500sjc
Posts: 726
Joined: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:23 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:19 pm

DiamondFlyer wrote:
ilovelamp wrote:
That and RVR is down to 600-700. Probably the main reason EDV diverted since that’s way below their mins.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


As if that's an 9E problem. That's Cat 3 category level ILS. Very few regional airlines are equipped for that



Generally CAT II and CAT III approaches are prohibited with reported wind shear.
Boiler Up!
 
richierich
Posts: 3505
Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2000 5:49 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:29 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
They stopped all arrivals and departures from 12-1230 ET today due to WS. Long taxi


If you are flying Delta mainline today from JFK, the great news is that your flight will very likely be operating. If you are flying on a DL regional today, please know that your flight was likely sacrificed to make said mainline flight operate and/or show optimal metrics. Please contact DL to rebook as, at best, your flight will be cancelled, but at worst you will be severely delayed and forced to spend hours of your time stuck inside the hell that is Terminal 2, or for the lucky few, crammed into a CRJ on the ramp.
None shall pass!!!!
 
User avatar
zeke
Posts: 12358
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:42 pm

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:30 pm

I listened to the ATIS, didn’t hear LVP in force, and Wx at CAT1 minima. The b wind didn’t sound that bad, 190 18G24 with RW22L in use.
Human rights lawyers are "ambulance chasers of the very worst kind.'" - Sky News
 
User avatar
jfklganyc
Posts: 4795
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2004 2:31 pm

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:31 pm

Bingo. 15 kt xwind limitation on many types. Also limited with runway contamination.
 
User avatar
zeke
Posts: 12358
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:42 pm

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:32 pm

It’s only 12kts crosswind on 22L with that gust value of 19G24.
Human rights lawyers are "ambulance chasers of the very worst kind.'" - Sky News
 
User avatar
william
Posts: 2763
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 1999 1:31 pm

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:45 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Bingo. 15 kt xwind limitation on many types. Also limited with runway contamination.


Why land to the south with a tail wind when they can land toward the north and still not interfere with LGA?
 
arcticcruiser
Posts: 179
Joined: Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:16 pm

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:54 pm

william wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
Bingo. 15 kt xwind limitation on many types. Also limited with runway contamination.


Why land to the south with a tail wind when they can land toward the north and still not interfere with LGA?


You don't get the wind, do you? 190/18G24...
 
User avatar
TOGA10
Posts: 175
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:49 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:01 pm

danj555 wrote:
Will the a380s have any trouble?

Why would an A380 be any different from the T7's, 747s, A320s etc etc?
The natural function of the wing is to soar upwards and carry that which is heavy up to the place where dwells the race of gods. More than any other thing that pertains to the body it partakes of the nature of the divine. - Plato
 
TW870
Posts: 750
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:01 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:03 pm

CapitalAvGeek wrote:
Now MU587 is diverting to IAD after only a couple of circles.


Looks like they sat at Dulles for 3 hours and went back to JFK, and after a few more circles are short final.

There is a break between lines right now so it looks like they are getting some of the diversions in, but all flights are held at origin until at least 6:30 eastern - so it is going to be a never ending night. What a horrible January in all ways for JFK.
 
AirbusMDCFAN
Posts: 497
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:51 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:04 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
Where's the usual suspects saying "Jetblue should be in complete control of this"?



Sitting in the back of the aircraft complaining that they had a middle seat and were uncomfortable, and that the in-flight crew
should be bowing down to them and giving them comped drinks for the inconvenience of a roller coaster ride.
 
ucdtim17
Posts: 434
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:38 pm

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:19 pm

Not worth its own thread but fog diversions at SFO today. LH A380 to OAK https://twitter.com/henrykleeKTVU/statu ... 8705204225
 
User avatar
TK787
Posts: 3687
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:57 pm

I have a 8:00am DL flight out of JFK. Looks like the weather is improving after 4am. Fingers crossed, I don't get delayed more than 3-4 hours :)

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos