JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:41 pm

EDV 3515 has diverted to IAD after missed approach at JFK. OZ 222 also missed approach as well as TAM 8102. Tower reporting gain of 20-35 knots

capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:42 pm

In addition, Virgin 3N is leaking fuel on approach.

N62NA · Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:44 pm

Sounds like a busy day "at the office" there at JFK today.

ilovelamp · Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:45 pm

That and RVR is down to 600-700. Probably the main reason EDV diverted since that’s way below their mins.

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capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:46 pm

capitalflyer wrote:
In addition, Virgin 3N is leaking fuel on approach.

Landed uneventfully

capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:51 pm

capitalflyer wrote:
EDV 3515 has diverted to IAD after missed approach at JFK. OZ 222 also missed approach as well as TAM 8102. Tower reporting gain of 20-35 knots

OZ 222 trying again. And in.

Issue is also RVR - Runway Visual Range. Only around 1000 feet and when combined with shear below threshold for some.

capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:53 pm

capitalflyer wrote:
EDV 3515 has diverted to IAD after missed approach at JFK. OZ 222 also missed approach as well as TAM 8102. Tower reporting gain of 20-35 knots

It appears TAM 8102 has diverted to IAD as well.

capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:19 pm

CX830 just missed approach, going around for 2nd attempt.

capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:20 pm

AF022 missed approach, going around for 2nd attempt.

flyguy84 · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:26 pm

KAL081 going missed, wind shear.

CapitalAvGeek · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:31 pm

CX830 diverting to IAD

capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:31 pm

B6 717 going around, as well as AA67, SU100, KE081, ...

Atlwarrior · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:33 pm

Yikes delays over 2 hours now.

capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:34 pm

B6 717 is headed back to BOS (oh boy), and CX830 looks like it is headed to IAD.

CapitalAvGeek · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:38 pm

Now MU587 is diverting to IAD after only a couple of circles.

capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:42 pm

JFK has had a bad January to say the least.

Atlwarrior · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:48 pm

KAL 081 should just go to ATL, it appears to keep circling.

readytotaxi · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:51 pm

WN1555 must have done 10 laps above ISP now diverting IAD. Going back further than where they started from.

aemoreira1981 · Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:58 pm

I should also note that JFK is inundated with fog and rain, leaving only the 22s as available for use with winds from the south.

AF22, SU100, and KE81 all landed on their second attempts after circling.

In another hour, the airfield will completely go to pot with heavy rains, which are already battering EWR.

GolfBravoRomeo · Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:48 pm

BA 117 diverted to BOS an is headed back to JFK after an an hour and half on the ground.

devron · Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:49 pm

B6 502 also going to BOS but seems to be under control now

flymco753 · Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:51 pm

I believe more snow is on tap for the NYC Area? Hopefully everything goes smooth than or we have a repeat of what happened last week.

danj555 · Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:55 pm

Will the a380s have any trouble?

shantahan · Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:05 pm

Jetblue 26 diverted to ewr
Tpa-jfk

shantahan · Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:10 pm

EK201, an a380 from DXB, is on approach now

shantahan · Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:16 pm

AM408, B788, diverted to IAD
MEX-JFK

neomax · Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:17 pm

capitalflyer wrote:
JFK has had a bad January to say the least.

That is the understatement of the century, and we’re not even halfway through January!

Super80Fan · Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:17 pm

Where's the usual suspects saying "Jetblue should be in complete control of this"?

shantahan · Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:25 pm

AM414, E190, diverted to EWR
MTY-JFK

aemoreira1981 · Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:50 pm

flymco753 wrote:
I believe more snow is on tap for the NYC Area? Hopefully everything goes smooth than or we have a repeat of what happened last week.

All rain since it's about 60 degrees. However, tomorrow night, it dips back to 15 degrees. (All temps Fahrenheit.)

At least with diversions to Newark, passengers can choose to terminate there and take the train to NYC. This also underscores the need for a new Terminal A at EWR.

DiamondFlyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:51 pm

ilovelamp wrote:
That and RVR is down to 600-700. Probably the main reason EDV diverted since that’s way below their mins.

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As if that's an 9E problem. That's Cat 3 category level ILS. Very few regional airlines are equipped for that

m0ssy · Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:54 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
Where's the usual suspects saying "Jetblue should be in complete control of this"?

I'm sure if it was ATL it would all be Delta's fault too, since they control the weather down there as well. :roll:

ilovelamp · Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:58 pm

DiamondFlyer wrote:
ilovelamp wrote:
That and RVR is down to 600-700. Probably the main reason EDV diverted since that’s way below their mins.

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As if that's an 9E problem. That's Cat 3 category level ILS. Very few regional airlines are equipped for that

I’m well aware of that. I didn’t say they were the only one impacted by the low RVR. They were the only regional flight mentioned in the OP.

capitalflyer · Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:38 pm

AA148 just missed approach.

devron · Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:24 pm

and now B6 1528

devron · Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:30 pm

devron wrote:
B6 502 also going to BOS but seems to be under control now

B6 502 and B6 26 seem to be on the road agian from BOS and EWR

Brick · Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:59 pm

jetBlue 26 is back in a holding pattern for JFK. Was diverted to EWR earlier (scheduled routing was TPA-JFK).

jfklganyc · Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:14 pm

They stopped all arrivals and departures from 12-1230 ET today due to WS. Long taxi

Web500sjc · Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:19 pm

DiamondFlyer wrote:
ilovelamp wrote:
That and RVR is down to 600-700. Probably the main reason EDV diverted since that’s way below their mins.

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As if that's an 9E problem. That's Cat 3 category level ILS. Very few regional airlines are equipped for that

Generally CAT II and CAT III approaches are prohibited with reported wind shear.

richierich · Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:29 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
They stopped all arrivals and departures from 12-1230 ET today due to WS. Long taxi

If you are flying Delta mainline today from JFK, the great news is that your flight will very likely be operating. If you are flying on a DL regional today, please know that your flight was likely sacrificed to make said mainline flight operate and/or show optimal metrics. Please contact DL to rebook as, at best, your flight will be cancelled, but at worst you will be severely delayed and forced to spend hours of your time stuck inside the hell that is Terminal 2, or for the lucky few, crammed into a CRJ on the ramp.

zeke · Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:30 pm

I listened to the ATIS, didn’t hear LVP in force, and Wx at CAT1 minima. The b wind didn’t sound that bad, 190 18G24 with RW22L in use.

jfklganyc · Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:31 pm

Bingo. 15 kt xwind limitation on many types. Also limited with runway contamination.

zeke · Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:32 pm

It’s only 12kts crosswind on 22L with that gust value of 19G24.

william · Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:45 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Bingo. 15 kt xwind limitation on many types. Also limited with runway contamination.

Why land to the south with a tail wind when they can land toward the north and still not interfere with LGA?

arcticcruiser · Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:54 pm

william wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
Bingo. 15 kt xwind limitation on many types. Also limited with runway contamination.

Why land to the south with a tail wind when they can land toward the north and still not interfere with LGA?

You don't get the wind, do you? 190/18G24...

TOGA10 · Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:01 pm

danj555 wrote:
Will the a380s have any trouble?

Why would an A380 be any different from the T7's, 747s, A320s etc etc?

TW870 · Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:03 pm

CapitalAvGeek wrote:
Now MU587 is diverting to IAD after only a couple of circles.

Looks like they sat at Dulles for 3 hours and went back to JFK, and after a few more circles are short final.

There is a break between lines right now so it looks like they are getting some of the diversions in, but all flights are held at origin until at least 6:30 eastern - so it is going to be a never ending night. What a horrible January in all ways for JFK.

AirbusMDCFAN · Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:04 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
Where's the usual suspects saying "Jetblue should be in complete control of this"?

Sitting in the back of the aircraft complaining that they had a middle seat and were uncomfortable, and that the in-flight crew
should be bowing down to them and giving them comped drinks for the inconvenience of a roller coaster ride.

ucdtim17 · Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:19 pm

Not worth its own thread but fog diversions at SFO today. LH A380 to OAK https://twitter.com/henrykleeKTVU/statu ... 8705204225

TK787 · Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:57 pm

I have a 8:00am DL flight out of JFK. Looks like the weather is improving after 4am. Fingers crossed, I don't get delayed more than 3-4 hours

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