Geminijets101 wrote:

Word on the streets is that Norwegian may be doing Argentinian routes from MIA instead of FLL

We’ll wait and see. Haven’t heard anything about that.

Slow season for MIA right now.. any new potential flights?

Geminijets101 wrote:

Slow season for MIA right now.. any new potential flights?

Nope and it might stay that way for some time.

Only "new" airline coming is GOL in November.

AA adds SRQ-ORD on an E175 starting Dec 19th. Schedule has it leaving ORD at 8:40am, arriving SRQ at 12:25pm Return is 12:55pm out of SRQ landing at ORD at 3:05pm.

I'm a bit surprised at this one with UA restarting year round mainline to ORD and going 2x daily from time to time. Either way good news for SRQ!

New routes on American

Miami – Houston Hobby eff 19DEC18 1 daily Embraer E175 (Republic Airlines)
AA4729 MIA1530 – 1725HOU E75 D
AA4708 HOU0600 – 0930MIA E75 D

Miami – Providence eff 19DEC18 1 daily Airbus A319
AA2801 MIA2050 – 2352PVD 319 D
AA1620 PVD0600 – 0935MIA 319 D

Miami wrote:

New routes on American

Miami – Houston Hobby eff 19DEC18 1 daily Embraer E175 (Republic Airlines)
AA4729 MIA1530 – 1725HOU E75 D
AA4708 HOU0600 – 0930MIA E75 D

Miami – Providence eff 19DEC18 1 daily Airbus A319
AA2801 MIA2050 – 2352PVD 319 D
AA1620 PVD0600 – 0935MIA 319 D

Finally, almost a month long hiatus of no new flights.

Qatar Airways to send A350-1000 to Miami on a one-off July 29.

Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport traffic highlights for June 2018:

Passengers: 3.0 million, +12.5% year-n-year;
Domestic: 2.3 million, +8.7%;
International: 740,027, +26.3%;

Cargo: 9503 tons, +12.6%;
Freight: 9445 tons, +12.4%;
Mail: 58 tons, +58.8%;

Aircraft movements: 27,045, +8.6%;

Geminijets101 wrote:

Miami wrote:

New routes on American

Miami – Houston Hobby eff 19DEC18 1 daily Embraer E175 (Republic Airlines)
AA4729 MIA1530 – 1725HOU E75 D
AA4708 HOU0600 – 0930MIA E75 D

Miami – Providence eff 19DEC18 1 daily Airbus A319
AA2801 MIA2050 – 2352PVD 319 D
AA1620 PVD0600 – 0935MIA 319 D

Finally, almost a month long hiatus of no new flights.

The HOU flight is interesting. Hope it does well! A good option for business travelers potentially into Hobby though timings would require a two night stay.

United is resuming Washington Dulles – Miami service from December 19. Twice daily. A319

UA1475 IAD0815 – 1105MIA 319 D
UA791 IAD1750 – 2040MIA 319 D

UA551 MIA0855 – 1150IAD 319 D
UA1477 MIA1324 – 1619IAD 319 D

Miami ranks by far at the top of any metro for international passengers passing through the airport per capita. When not adjusted for population size, only New York ranks ahead of Miami

American Airlines is planning to send the 737 MAX on the folllowing routes:

Miami – St. Croix, 04OCT18, 1 daily
Miami – San Jose Costa Rica, 19DEC18, 1 daily

Air Canada to send the 737 MAX 8 to West Palm Beach from Toronto effective October 28. 5 weekly.

1 daily from December 4. (The 737 MAX 8 operates on 1 of 2 daily flights, replacing A320 during peak season)

Will IcelandAir ever start MIA/FLL?

Geminijets101 wrote:

Will IcelandAir ever start MIA/FLL?

Ever? Yes. 'When' is the question.

It will happen eventually.

What year did Icelandair cease operations at FLL? Remember seeing the old paint scheme at Delta gate D9 a few times. Assuming they do start up at some point would one figure FLL over MIA due to the B6 flights?

A new tower is near completion in downtown Miami and the developer announced the people who have purchased units come from more than 50 countries.

Those are: Argentina, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Brazil, Cameroon, Canada, Cayman Islands, Chile, China, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, France, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, India, Iran, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Kuwait, Mexico, Monaco, Morocco, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Norway, Paraguay, Peru, Poland, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay and Venezuela.

Miami is well known around the world. And I truely expect it to continue to bring in more international families to South Florida. That will obvious help the chances of more international service to come here.

njdevilsin03 wrote:

What year did Icelandair cease operations at FLL? Remember seeing the old paint scheme at Delta gate D9 a few times. Assuming they do start up at some point would one figure FLL over MIA due to the B6 flights?

They flew to FLL for a while for sure. Can't recall the dates but they did for sure.

MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:

njdevilsin03 wrote:

What year did Icelandair cease operations at FLL? Remember seeing the old paint scheme at Delta gate D9 a few times. Assuming they do start up at some point would one figure FLL over MIA due to the B6 flights?

They flew to FLL for a while for sure. Can't recall the dates but they did for sure.

Also Finnair before switching back to MIA tried FLL for a year or two. Before One World. That's why I bristle at the reports that said BA was FLL's first European legacy carrier. It wasn't. Icelandair and Finnair both flew to FLL at some point in the 1990's. BA is the first year-round legacy European carrier for FLL though.

Air Italy is going year-round to Miami.

Over 80% load factor.

NEW 737 MAX 8 routes from AA:

Miami – Grand Cayman 04NOV18 – 02DEC18 1 daily
Miami – Tampa 04NOV18 – 02DEC18 1 daily
Miami – Washington Reagan 04NOV18 – 02DEC18 1 daily

Just saw on FR24 that a Qatar government’s A340 left MIA yesterday at about 4:00PM, any reason why they came to Miami?

Ethiopian Cargo plans to start cargo service to Miami this month.

SY announced flights to BNA from MIA.

RAM starts Miami service April 3, 2019. 3 weekly, 787-8.

Being discussed in other threads is that AA will be dropping its 2x daily FLL-PAP service. Route hung around for quite a while. It'll be interesting to see if AA adds more MIA-PAP to compensate.

Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport traffic highlights for July-2018:

Passengers: 3.2 million, +7.6% year-on-year;
Domestic: 2.4 million, +4.0%;
International: 816,375, +19.2%;

Aircraft movements: 27,724, +5.6%.

Canadian Airline, Flair Airlines will begin service to Miami from Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Toronto, starting December 14th for flights to Edmonton, and December 15th for Toronto and Winnipeg. All flights are on the 737-800.

Azul is sending their A330-900neo to FLL eff January 18.

Alaska to suspend daily San Francisco-Fort Lauderdale service, effective 07-Jan-2019

American to suspend 2x daily Port Au Prince - Fort Lauderdale on 03-Nov-2018

Fort Myers Southwest Florida International Airport traffic highlights for July-2018:

Passengers: 561,039, +5.8% year-on-year;
Cargo: 1063 tonnes, -8.4%;
Aircraft movements: 4721, -2.2%.

Miami wrote:

Alaska to suspend daily San Francisco-Fort Lauderdale service, effective 07-Jan-2019

The latest in a growing list of routes AS had abandoned from SFO since integrating VX. Sad.

Geminijets101 wrote:

Canadian Airline, Flair Airlines will begin service to Miami from Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Toronto, starting December 14th for flights to Edmonton, and December 15th for Toronto and Winnipeg. All flights are on the 737-800.

The Edmonton and Winnipeg links are exciting and new routes for MIA (or did WS do Winnipeg once? Or was that from FLL?) .

Miami wrote:

Miami ranks by far at the top of any metro for international passengers passing through the airport per capita. When not adjusted for population size, only New York ranks ahead of Miami

Well Miami is already located in one of the two regions it has large amounts of destinations to (Caribbean, Central and South America) and the other being Europe. The majority of those flights to Caribbean, Central and northern tier South America are under 4 hours to many cities that cannot support wide body long haul travel so it stands to reason why Miami is second to New York in international passenger numbers.

I see Miami is more of a regional international destination while New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco are more global. Their international flight portfolio supports that.

In addition to Flair bringing MIA's first flights to Edmonton and Winnipeg, Sunwing will bring Miami's first flights to Ottawa, launch December 15th, and Quebec City, launching December 8th. Sunwing will also operate Miami-Montreal and Miami-Toronto from November 17.

Centurion Air Cargo terminates operations: https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... operations

Fastphilly wrote:

Miami wrote:

Miami ranks by far at the top of any metro for international passengers passing through the airport per capita. When not adjusted for population size, only New York ranks ahead of Miami

Well Miami is already located in one of the two regions it has large amounts of destinations to (Caribbean, Central and South America) and the other being Europe. The majority of those flights to Caribbean, Central and northern tier South America are under 4 hours to many cities that cannot support wide body long haul travel so it stands to reason why Miami is second to New York in international passenger numbers.

I see Miami is more of a regional international destination while New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco are more global. Their international flight portfolio supports that.

This is, frankly, a flawed conclusion. Only an aviation geek would equate the duration of a flight with the significance (economic, political, cultural, or otherwise) of a hub. MIA is the gateway between the West and Latin America -- and I'm not just talking about the airport.

Nearly any US hub will, by virtue of regional economic differences and the sheer size of the country, have asymmetrical flows of traffic heading east, west, or south.

Fastphilly wrote:

Miami wrote:

Miami ranks by far at the top of any metro for international passengers passing through the airport per capita. When not adjusted for population size, only New York ranks ahead of Miami

Well Miami is already located in one of the two regions it has large amounts of destinations to (Caribbean, Central and South America) and the other being Europe. The majority of those flights to Caribbean, Central and northern tier South America are under 4 hours to many cities that cannot support wide body long haul travel so it stands to reason why Miami is second to New York in international passenger numbers.

I see Miami is more of a regional international destination while New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco are more global. Their international flight portfolio supports that.

You could argue Boston is as diverse in its portfolio these days as SFO.

Miami is a major international hub with only limited gaps in nonstop flights (South & East Asia).

Add in Fort Lauderdale's longhaul flying an you have a really complete route map with many routes or regions sporting competition.

axiom wrote:

Fastphilly wrote:

Miami wrote:

Miami ranks by far at the top of any metro for international passengers passing through the airport per capita. When not adjusted for population size, only New York ranks ahead of Miami

Well Miami is already located in one of the two regions it has large amounts of destinations to (Caribbean, Central and South America) and the other being Europe. The majority of those flights to Caribbean, Central and northern tier South America are under 4 hours to many cities that cannot support wide body long haul travel so it stands to reason why Miami is second to New York in international passenger numbers.

I see Miami is more of a regional international destination while New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco are more global. Their international flight portfolio supports that.

This is, frankly, a flawed conclusion. Only an aviation geek would equate the duration of a flight with the significance (economic, political, cultural, or otherwise) of a hub. MIA is the gateway between the West and Latin America -- and I'm not just talking about the airport.

Nearly any US hub will, by virtue of regional economic differences and the sheer size of the country, have asymmetrical flows of traffic heading east, west, or south.

You did very well to explain that. I’ve learned to simply scroll past certain posts on A. Net now. What he says isn’t only foolish because of the premise (a flight somehow being less international because it’s shorter in length) but also because it’s untrue. Miami has a significant long haul international portfolio. It’s three largest international destinations are all long haul flights (LHR, EZE, GRU). It’s served by two middle eastern carriers (3 if we're talking metro area and include FLL), there’s obviously the large number of European flights and there’s even planned service to Africa starting in 2019. The two places Miami falls short are East Asia/Australia and it should be extremely obvious as to why that is. Other areas also benefit from “regional” international travel. A large chunk of LAX international travel is to/from Mexico. SFO (which Miami dwarfs in international passengers) also has significant flows from Mexico/Canada. New York which is the most balanced in terms of geography of the USA’s international gateways also has significant passenger flows to/from the Caribbean just like Miami. So yes, LA and SFO are much stronger to Asia than Miami but that’s for obvious geographic, economic and cultural reasons. Making a big deal of that would be like dinging San Francisco for not being able to maintain service to places like Buenos Aires, Rio and Montevideo.

Brickell305 wrote:

axiom wrote:

Fastphilly wrote:

Well Miami is already located in one of the two regions it has large amounts of destinations to (Caribbean, Central and South America) and the other being Europe. The majority of those flights to Caribbean, Central and northern tier South America are under 4 hours to many cities that cannot support wide body long haul travel so it stands to reason why Miami is second to New York in international passenger numbers.

I see Miami is more of a regional international destination while New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco are more global. Their international flight portfolio supports that.

This is, frankly, a flawed conclusion. Only an aviation geek would equate the duration of a flight with the significance (economic, political, cultural, or otherwise) of a hub. MIA is the gateway between the West and Latin America -- and I'm not just talking about the airport.

Nearly any US hub will, by virtue of regional economic differences and the sheer size of the country, have asymmetrical flows of traffic heading east, west, or south.

You did very well to explain that. I’ve learned to simply scroll past certain posts on A. Net now. What he says isn’t only foolish because of the premise (a flight somehow being less international because it’s shorter in length) but also because it’s untrue. Miami has a significant long haul international portfolio. It’s three largest international destinations are all long haul flights (LHR, EZE, GRU). It’s served by two middle eastern carriers (3 if we're talking metro area and include FLL), there’s obviously the large number of European flights and there’s even planned service to Africa starting in 2019. The two places Miami falls short are East Asia/Australia and it should be extremely obvious as to why that is. Other areas also benefit from “regional” international travel. A large chunk of LAX international travel is to/from Mexico. SFO (which Miami dwarfs in international passengers) also has significant flows from Mexico/Canada. New York which is the most balanced in terms of geography of the USA’s international gateways also has significant passenger flows to/from the Caribbean just like Miami. So yes, LA and SFO are much stronger to Asia than Miami but that’s for obvious geographic, economic and cultural reasons. Making a big deal of that would be like dinging San Francisco for not being able to maintain service to places like Buenos Aires, Rio and Montevideo.

Also should note that if combine MIA & FLL international flying for 2016, the metro area passes LA's airports for 2nd overall in the country. FLL for what it is wroth carried more international passengers than SEA or PHL in 2016. That only includes half a month of EK service and was before BA began service to FLL so the numbers likely even higher in 2017. The portfolio of destinations from both airports as well as the frequencies make it a bigger jumping off point than SFO and arguably the LA basin.

I never understood the "widebody" long haul is real international flying. BOS-LHR is a shorter flight than MIA-SEA or on some days even MIA-SFO.

Drove by MIA last night and this morning a full Concourse J with 767s, 777s and A330s from all over Latin America, Europe and the Middle East.

That TAM 777 going to GRU or the LATAM 767 going to Lima is just as "impressive" as an flight to LHR or NRT. LAX and JFK are true global gateways though, and are up there with airports like HKG, SYD and LHR. But MIA is a major gateway and no way should be called regional. That MIA can support four flights a day to Grand Cayman or five to Lima, and nine to PTY is impressive. All large airports have hub fee, even LAX and JFK. All large airports will specialize in a specific region, LAX (Asia), JFK (Europe), MIA (Latin America/Caribbean).

I never understood the "widebody" long haul is real international flying. BOS-LHR is a shorter flight than MIA-SEA or on some days even MIA-SFO.

Drove by MIA last night and this morning a full Concourse J with 767s, 777s and A330s from all over Latin America, Europe and the Middle East.

That TAM 777 going to GRU or the LATAM 767 going to Lima is just as "impressive" as an flight to LHR or NRT. LAX and JFK are true global gateways though, and are up there with airports like HKG, SYD and LHR. But MIA is a major gateway and no way should be called regional. That MIA can support four flights a day to Grand Cayman or five to Lima, and nine to PTY is impressive. All large airports have hub fee, even LAX and JFK. All large airports will specialize in a specific region, LAX (Asia), JFK (Europe), MIA (Latin America/Caribbean).

OPDRVR wrote:

Are there any international operators that fly into MIA early morning and park their aircraft all day for a late departure out of MIA?

Hi: Long time ago: AEROLINEAS did, I don't know is schedule is the same nowadays.

Rgds

Miami wrote:

A new tower is near completion in downtown Miami and the developer announced the people who have purchased units come from more than 50 countries.

Those are: Argentina, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Brazil, Cameroon, Canada, Cayman Islands, Chile, China, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, France, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, India, Iran, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Kuwait, Mexico, Monaco, Morocco, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Norway, Paraguay, Peru, Poland, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay and Venezuela.

Miami is well known around the world. And I truely expect it to continue to bring in more international families to South Florida. That will obvious help the chances of more international service to come here.

How many of those people are actually going to live in that building instead of just using it as an investment?

Apprentice wrote:

OPDRVR wrote:

Are there any international operators that fly into MIA early morning and park their aircraft all day for a late departure out of MIA?

Hi: Long time ago: AEROLINEAS did, I don't know is schedule is the same nowadays.

Rgds

No, they have two daily flights now. Right now the only airlines that still do this are LATAM with a couple of 767s and 787s every day, BoA several times a week with a 767, and Avianca with their Brazilian A330.

Miami wrote:

Centurion Air Cargo terminates operations: https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... operations

I was wondering what was going on with them. Amerijet seems to have taken over their facility at MIA.

What's the word on MIA-East Asia flights?

OB1504 wrote:

Miami wrote:

No, they have two daily flights now. Right now the only airlines that still do this are LATAM with a couple of 767s and 787s every day, BoA several times a week with a 767, and Avianca with their Brazilian A330.
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Avianca doesn't do it anymore. It flies MIA-GRU 2x a day now with a daylight.