JHwk
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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:43 am

Really hate the new numbering scheme... seems so arbitrary. Get rid of letters for baggage claim, add them to gates, reverse the historical gate numbering sequence. While they were at it I would have expected them to re-designate dropoff lobbies with random petroglyphs.
 
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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:16 am

usxguy wrote:
anyone have photos of the MW terminal?


Picture is worth a thousand words. I’ll just use one. Quaint.

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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:29 am

I'll use another.... it's shit. :)

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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:18 am

that looks exactly like the Kona commuter terminal....... except for the ADA ramp
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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:23 am

At least it’s a double wide!

On closer inspection...Is that the old NWA inflight office?
 
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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:55 am

Prost wrote:
At least it’s a double wide!

On closer inspection...Is that the old NWA inflight office?


It’s a new build terminal. The original plan was a more substantial, permenant building but with WP shutting down I suppose the state didn’t think it was necessary.

I also believe this is a temp structure. I’d imagine it will be razed once the Diamond Head Concourse redevelopment occurs in a few years.

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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:28 am

JHwk wrote:
Really hate the new numbering scheme... seems so arbitrary. Get rid of letters for baggage claim, add them to gates, reverse the historical gate numbering sequence. While they were at it I would have expected them to re-designate dropoff lobbies with random petroglyphs.


Definitely sad to see these changes, even if they'll make things easier when construction finally starts on the fabled new concourses we've been hearing about for a decade. HNL gates have had the same numbering for 40+ years. I'll miss the old signage too... the great big Helvetica letters and the colored panels for each lobby and bag claim area were a great throwback. That's what all airport signage seemed to look like when I was a kid. At least we still have the wonderfully dated signage at OGG for a nice walk down memory lane. I flew through HNL last fall and actually took a lot of photos of the signs, for nostalgia's sake.

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And these have been gone several years, but I still miss them...
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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:41 pm

Interesting news
https://skift.com/2018/12/05/hawaiian-a ... r-revenue/
looks like the increased capacity coming into the HI market is really hurting HA profits. And this is before WN entering the market. Looks like HA is going to have a lot of trouble next year.
 
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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:05 pm

tphuang wrote:
Interesting news
https://skift.com/2018/12/05/hawaiian-a ... r-revenue/
looks like the increased capacity coming into the HI market is really hurting HA profits. And this is before WN entering the market. Looks like HA is going to have a lot of trouble next year.


Unless another carrier backs down in the market in a meaningful way WN will face the exact same pressures as HA is today.

Perhaps this is why WN hasn’t provided a timeline to enter the HI market just yet. They may be waiting for the market to stabilize. They only have to wait for someone to budge. Though I expect the incumbent carriers to hold out as long as possible because no one will want to lose their marketshare position.

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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:14 pm

77H wrote:
tphuang wrote:
Interesting news
https://skift.com/2018/12/05/hawaiian-a ... r-revenue/
looks like the increased capacity coming into the HI market is really hurting HA profits. And this is before WN entering the market. Looks like HA is going to have a lot of trouble next year.


Unless another carrier backs down in the market in a meaningful way WN will face the exact same pressures as HA is today.

Perhaps this is why WN hasn’t provided a timeline to enter the HI market just yet. They may be waiting for the market to stabilize. They only have to wait for someone to budge. Though I expect the incumbent carriers to hold out as long as possible because no one will want to lose their marketshare position.

77H


Only reason WN is not in Hawaii right now is because of the slow FAA ETOPS certification process.

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Re: Hawaiian airports and aviation - 2018

Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:08 pm

WN ETOPS is "close".
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... on-454179/

WN EVP Wells: "Southwest had committed to selling Hawaii flights by end-2018, and the airline is still holding to that goal, says Wells. But he also acknowledges that this could slip into the first quarter of 2019."
(note: "selling" vs. "flying")

and I get to say that I correctly predicted WN operating tags. "The airline has also said it will begin inter-island service with Hawaii, which will likely start months after flights launch from the US mainland."

It's likely I'll have to show my Premier Club card, since it "won't be on my boarding pass".

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