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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:39 pm

WDL appear to be using the old Austrian Airlines arrow as their new logo.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:27 pm

CarbonFibre wrote:
WDL appear to be using the old Austrian Airlines arrow as their new logo.

And I think it's not just me who asks himself why.... :banghead:
Did their CEO not know what its's all about with that logo?
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:56 pm

The arrow is the corporate sign of the new WDL owner: Zeitfracht Group.
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Re: easyJet Operating 2 x Avro/BAe 146's?!

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:21 pm

atcsundevil wrote:
JamesCousins wrote:
Taking a look on Planespotters it appears easyJet have leased 2 BAe 146 series aircraft from German WDL Aviaition as of January 2018. I did a quick google and couldn't find any news or information on this. Have easyJet won some sort of contract somewhere in Europe, that requires them to use the 2 German-reg? All a little confusing to be honest :shock:

Since it appears your question is related to EasyJet ops at TXL, I've merged your question into the existing discussion. You may find some answers here!

✈️ atcsundevil


Thanks atcsundevil, appreciate it! (Was unaware of this thread :D )
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:22 pm

4h25m is extemely competitive in my book if you take into consideration how long it takes to get from Munich proper to MUC and how long it can take to get to/from central Berlin to TXL in heavy traffic. Add to that the time for security, boarding etc. + flight time and the train really is a no brainer. It will be even more so once TXL closes and flights go to BER.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:16 pm

Wishing them all the best in TXL, hope they break the LH monopoly in Germany. I'm convinced they can live alongside each other, both getting a chunk of the market. As for the pax numbers, I agree with Anstar, give it some time. More competition is good for everyone, and if you don't like it, you still have the option of rail / LH or fly yourself on the Autobahn ;-).
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:46 am

vfw614 wrote:
4h25m is extemely competitive in my book if you take into consideration how long it takes to get from Munich proper to MUC and how long it can take to get to/from central Berlin to TXL in heavy traffic. Add to that the time for security, boarding etc. + flight time and the train really is a no brainer. It will be even more so once TXL closes and flights go to BER.

But this statement ignores the reality ... (at least in part)
Did you ever consider that by far not all passengers originate and/or terminate their journey in the resp. city centers ... ?
If you factor in the time one needs to get from surrounding areas to the departure airport and from arrival airport to final destination the gap will be significantly narrower - or even invert.
It all depends on individual circumstances.
But - of course - there´s no doubt that the new HSL will create a dent in airtravel demand.
It will shave off a higher share of the ("real") PTP-market.
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:11 pm

Yes, of course I did consider that (as this argument is routinely brought up) and you are absolutely right that it dpeends on individual circumstances. But geographically, there can absolutely no doubt that Berlin central station and Munich central station are much closer to the final destination of the vast majority of people travelling to/from Berlin/Munich than the airports of those cities. This simply because they are smack-dab in the middle of the city centre and not tucked away in the northwestern or norther suburbs of the city in question, making the remaining distance to most locations in the city much shorter from the station than from the airport. So if the minority of those for whom the airport is closer than the railway station would have begun using the train instead of the plane, passenger numbers for the HSR would have increased even more.

We also must consider that an ICE train easily has the same capacity as 4-5 A320/321s. HSR can offer masive capacity.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:40 pm

4h25m is extemely competitive in my book

I am not doubting it is competitive, and will surely make a dent in air passengers. But I was comparing to other EU city pairs with both HSR and air service. At 4h25, air should still have the higher market share. On MAD-BCN, which is comfortably under 3hrs, HSR had 65% market share in 2017. Of course you have hubs on both ends (IB & VY) to take into account. PAR-MRS at 3hrs moves around 60-70% market share (hub only on PAR side). The 50% point seems to lie somewhere around 3h30. But it will be interesting to see the evolution on MUC-BER.
And I for one hope TXL stays open...
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:55 pm

Any chance of TXL-LGW coming ?
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:34 pm

ro1960 wrote:
Bjm0517 wrote:
Hmm. This is odd, their a BUDGET airline, so why are they going into airports like Berlin Tegel!?!?


Unless you haven't been following the news, U2 took over some of AB's operations at TXL after they folded. And as stated by other posters, U2 does not focus on secondary airports like Ryanair does (although this is changing a little).

Article and photo here:
http://www.airportsinternational.com/2018/01/first-easyjet-flight-departs-berlin-tegel/19536




Oh. I wasn’t aware that they took over AB operations. That explains it.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:06 am

easyJet has just announced two more destinations out of Berlin Tegel and they are Belgrade and Ljubljana.

Both will be operated with the A320, BEG four times per week, LJU three on a summer seasonal basis. To BEG they will face competition from JU which will fly eight times per week while LJU will have no competition. Adria used to fly to TXL but suspended it due to light loads. Closest competition to LJU will be EW to ZAG which is some 120 km away.

http://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/01/eas ... ljana.html
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:19 pm

Blerg wrote:
easyJet has just announced two more destinations out of Berlin Tegel and they are Belgrade and Ljubljana.

Both will be operated with the A320, BEG four times per week, LJU three on a summer seasonal basis. To BEG they will face competition from JU which will fly eight times per week while LJU will have no competition. Adria used to fly to TXL but suspended it due to light loads. Closest competition to LJU will be EW to ZAG which is some 120 km away.

http://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/01/eas ... ljana.html


I suspect LJU-TXL will be heavily used from Austrians in Carinthie. I flew to LJU last year (from a non-German speaking country) and half the plane seemed to speak German.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:38 pm

http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/swedavia/pressreleases/easyjet-boerjar-flyga-till-berlin-fraan-landvetter-2395031

Swedish media are reporting that from august 5 there will be a daily easyJet connection from Gothenburg to Berlin.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:42 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
easyJet has just announced two more destinations out of Berlin Tegel and they are Belgrade and Ljubljana.

Both will be operated with the A320, BEG four times per week, LJU three on a summer seasonal basis. To BEG they will face competition from JU which will fly eight times per week while LJU will have no competition. Adria used to fly to TXL but suspended it due to light loads. Closest competition to LJU will be EW to ZAG which is some 120 km away.

http://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/01/eas ... ljana.html


I suspect LJU-TXL will be heavily used from Austrians in Carinthie. I flew to LJU last year (from a non-German speaking country) and half the plane seemed to speak German.


Not only them but I am sure they will carry a lot of Croats as well. Zagreb is quite expensive, even Eurowings complained about their fees. Seems like Fraport knows what it's doing. They also got Transavia to fly there and in less than a year they already increased flights from Amsterdam.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:29 pm

There’s going to be daily to Oslo as well I saw . New seat for easy
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:29 pm

Destination for easyjet
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:56 pm

So GOT, HEL, OSL will be new stations for easyJet.
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:23 pm

cityairline wrote:
So GOT, HEL, OSL will be new stations for easyJet.

I think Easyjet has flown to GOT and HEL before from LGW
But good to see them back on their network.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:31 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
...half the plane seemed to speak German.


Carinthians don't speak German!

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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:52 pm

First time for EasyJet in Oslo then with this new Berlin/TXL - Oslo/OSL flight.

EasyJet has not been present in Norway (except with London -Bergen some years back).
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:29 am

vadheim wrote:
First time for EasyJet in Oslo then with this new Berlin/TXL - Oslo/OSL flight.

EasyJet has not been present in Norway (except with London -Bergen some years back).

Guess that has to do with having a strong competitioner with Norwegian there ?
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:25 am

easyJet has never been particularly strong in the Scandinavian markets. I wouldn't be surprised Iceland is their largest Scandinavian market.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:15 am

Just announced: TXL-CGN. Comeback at Cologne after the LGW-CGN was stopped about 2 years ago.
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:46 pm

easyJet yesterday (30JAN18) announced planned service expansion at Berlin Tegel for summer schedule, including the launch of 23 routes. Planned new routes include the following.

Berlin Tegel – Alicante eff 01JUN18 2 weekly (5 weekly from 02AUG18)
Berlin Tegel – Ancona eff 03AUG18 2 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Belgrade eff 10AUG18 3 weekly (4 weekly from 02SEP18)
Berlin Tegel – Biarritz eff 03AUG18 2 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Brindisi eff 01JUL18 2 weekly (3 weekly from 07AUG18, 4 weekly from 01SEP18)
Berlin Tegel – Cagliari eff 04AUG18 3 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Cologne eff 01JUN18 2 daily (17 weekly from 02JUL18; 4 daily on weekdays, 2 on Day 6, 3 on Day 7 from 01AUG18; 5 daily on Day x6, 3 on Day 6 form 01SEP18)
Berlin Tegel – Corfu eff 01AUG18 2 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Faro eff 02AUG18 3 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Genoa eff 02AUG18 2 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Gothenburg eff 05AUG18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Granada eff 03SEP18 2 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Graz eff 04AUG18 3 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Jerez de la Frontera eff 02JUN18 2 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Kefallinia eff 03AUG18 2 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Ljubljana eff 09AUG18 3 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Mahon eff 04AUG18 1 weekly (3 weekly from 04SEP18)
Berlin Tegel – Montpellier eff 04AUG18 3 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Naples eff 01AUG18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Nice eff 04JUL18 2 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Oslo eff 03AUG18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Pula eff 03AUG18 3 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Venice eff 03JUN18 1 weekly (3 weekly from 03JUL18, 1 daily from 01AUG18)

Planned service increase on selected routes:
Berlin Tegel – Dusseldorf eff 11JUN18 Increase from 4 to 6 daily (Day 6 increase from 2 to 4 daily)
Berlin Tegel – Helsinki eff 02JUL18 Increase from 8 to 11 weekly (13 weekly from 04AUG18)
Berlin Tegel – Paphos eff 07AUG18 Increase from 1 to 2 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Stuttgart eff 01JUL18 Increase from 4 to 6 daily (Day 7 from 3 to 6 daily. Day 6 Increase from 3 to 4 daily from 14JUL18)
Berlin Tegel – Zurich eff 05JUN18 Increase from 2 to 5 daily (Day 6 from 2 to 4 daily)

Previously reported service increase:
Berlin Tegel – Copenhagen eff 25MAR18 Increase from 2 to 3 daily
Berlin Tegel – Frankfurt eff 25MAR18 Increase from 5 to 6 daily (Saturdays from 4 to 6 daily)
Berlin Tegel – Helsinki eff 31MAR18 Increase from 7 to 8 weekly (2 flights on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Stuttgart 25MAR18 – 30APR18 Increase from 4 to 5 daily (Saturdays from 3 to 4 daily)
Berlin Tegel – Vienna eff 25MAR18 Increase from 5 to 6 daily on weekdays

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ht=easyjet
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:01 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
easyJet has never been particularly strong in the Scandinavian markets. I wouldn't be surprised Iceland is their largest Scandinavian market.


Thants impossible due to the fact that Iceland is not a part of Scandinavia.....
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:22 pm

Well, I very much enjoyed my trip with WDL/easyJet. To me the most interesting thing is, that most passengers do not even realize that the plane is a wet lease aircraft. Just put a sticker on it and make the right announcements and there you go... but WDL also seem to have very professional ACME crews. And finally I think for many who would have thought never to fly on easyJet this was one reason to do so.

Here is the video of the flight from TXL to VIE, seats 1st and 10th row.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryJ8gXwBZxI
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:26 pm

Wow.. this service increase is massive. I am slightly afraid that it is too much. I very much hope they are successful.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:45 am

BAe 146 200 2050 D-AWUE WDL Aviation posn 31jan18 CGN-TXL , new tail logo, easyJet decals ex PK-PJP

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.m ... av4&page=2

Another little fourholer joining the wetlease brigade for easyJet... :bouncy:
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:09 am

Does anyone know if the 146 will still by operating TXL-ZRH in June? Seat map shows an A320 however only rows 1-17 are available for selection which would indicate a 146, seat selection is chargeable however and information above suggests this is not the case on wet lease aircraft. Flight I'm looking at is EZY5867 on 20 June.

Prices between EZY and LX are virtually the same but I'll take a 146 over a boring 320 given the opportunity, if it's between A320s I'll take LX.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:10 pm

It probably shows as an A320 because the software doesn't know the BAE 146. It's an aircraft that isn't normally in the EasyJet fleet.
 
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Re: EasyJet is starting to fly from Berlin Tegel

Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:18 pm

Ferryflight wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
easyJet has never been particularly strong in the Scandinavian markets. I wouldn't be surprised Iceland is their largest Scandinavian market.


Thants impossible due to the fact that Iceland is not a part of Scandinavia.....


True, but it is part of the Nordic countries. Many people often mix up Scandinavia and the Nordic countries.

Still I doubt if Reykjavik is their busiest destination in the Nordic countries, I think Copenhagen sees more EasyJet flights. Surprisingly EasyJet only flies to Iceland from the UK whilst they fly to Copenhagen from all over Europe.

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