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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:33 pm

TUGMASTER wrote:
And G-BNWZ goes on the 8th too...
Leaving only G-BZHA/B to soldier on until the end of the month..

G-BNWZ is now going on the 7th, and G-BZHC made it to DGX today!
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:10 pm

audidudi wrote:
TUGMASTER wrote:
And G-BNWZ goes on the 8th too...
Leaving only G-BZHA/B to soldier on until the end of the month..

G-BNWZ is now going on the 7th, and G-BZHC made it to DGX today!

I wonder if this qualifies as the shortest flight between two airports for any B767?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GBZHC
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:20 am

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A9C-DHM (DHL International) has been retired and return to CAM @ILN on 16-Aug. LN 58. 1983-build. Originally delivered to ANA in passenger configuration. I presume CAM will shortly deliver another frame to DHL to replace this one.


A9C-DHM lives on. Ferried to Leipzig today.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a9c-dhm
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:48 am

Re: A9C-DHM: after going through all the brain damage to get the maintenance records in perfect order to export the thing, and to make the repairs necessitated by anything that wasn't perfectly-documented, one would hope that CAM would be able to keep it exported. Looks like they did. (CMAirplaneman had a photo of it a week or so ago at ILN, looking like it had been readied to continue flying.)
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:43 pm

Hawaiian retired N580HA, their very first 767, on November 8th. Ferry flight HNL-GYR. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL8058
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:39 pm

The next B763F for FedEx was delivered earlier this week:

Boeing 767-300F 63101 1167 N169FE FedEx delivery 20 Nov 2018 PAE-IND
 
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:10 pm

N373AA left TLV post-conversion yesterday (11/22/18) and flew TLV-SNN-CVG-ILN, arriving ILN this afternoon (11/23). Owned now by CAM, to be leased by CAM to somebody.

LN435 (MSN25200). June-1992-build, so 26.5 years old. Wonder if it's subject to a Black Friday Discount.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:21 am

I saw the following BA B767 at VCV in April 2017;

G-BNWC, G-BNWD, G-BNWH, G-BNWN, G-BNWO, G-BNWR and G-BNWU.

Does anyone know if they have been scrapped yet, if so when.

At this rate they will outlive the latest aircraft going to DGX which are being rapidly parted out and scrapped.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:00 pm

The last two BA B763s in service, G-BZHA and G-BZHB, are ferrying to DGX tomorrow for part-out and scrap.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:00 pm

Better late than never, here is the Q3 Update
Cheers
A

Recap of 9M-2018

+ 19 new cargo conversion deliveries
+ 13 new deliveries from the factory
+ 9 deliveries of second hand passenger plane
+ 5 deliveries of second hand cargo plane
- 9 permanent retirements
- 23 passenger 763 retirements with possible future life
- 4 cargo retirement with possible future life

NET = +10 Active frames

Movements Q1-2018
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Movements Q2-2018
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Movements Q3-2018
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:08 pm

EI-FMR (Air Italy) was retired on 11/23, returned to Aergo @SNN prior to sale to DHL for cargo conversion. LN 649. 1997-build. Originally delivered to Britannia.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:51 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Better late than never, here is the Q3 Update
Cheers
A

Recap of 9M-2018

+ 19 new cargo conversion deliveries
+ 13 new deliveries from the factory
+ 9 deliveries of second hand passenger plane
+ 5 deliveries of second hand cargo plane
- 9 permanent retirements
- 23 passenger 763 retirements with possible future life
- 4 cargo retirement with possible future life

NET = +10 Active frames

Movements Q1-2018
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Movements Q2-2018
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Movements Q3-2018
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Cargo conversions keep getting younger and younger... proof they're worthless as pax haulers.
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:40 am

1989worstyear wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Better late than never, here is the Q3 Update
Cheers
A

Recap of 9M-2018

+ 19 new cargo conversion deliveries
+ 13 new deliveries from the factory
+ 9 deliveries of second hand passenger plane
+ 5 deliveries of second hand cargo plane
- 9 permanent retirements
- 23 passenger 763 retirements with possible future life
- 4 cargo retirement with possible future life

NET = +10 Active frames

Movements Q1-2018
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Movements Q2-2018
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Movements Q3-2018
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Cargo conversions keep getting younger and younger... proof they're worthless as pax haulers.


Wow. This is insane. Proof that they’re worthless? There are hundreds of 767PAX flying and will continue to fly. The 767, however, is in a sweet spot for cargo conversions as demand is high.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:22 pm

Imagine what this airframe could be with new engines.....imagine 20-25% less burn on this platform.....its a shame it will never happen.
 
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:16 pm

Today, 767-300ER replacement with less fuel costs is 787-8 Dreamliner. When Airbus launched and consolidated A330 (specifically when Airbus launched shorter A330 variant), they killed 767 future as passenger jet.
The aviation world will be bored if only twins fly with commercial passengers. I love 747s
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:31 am

N588HA arriving into HKG for its conversion to United's configuration:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/79691705@N05/46091157012
Most recently flown: A318 F-GUGQ A319 F-GRHR A320ceo D-AIZH A320neo D-AINE A330-300 VH-QPD A350-900 B-LRA A380-800 D-AIMH 717 VH-YQW 737-600 LN-RPA 737-700 OY-JTY 737-800 LN-NGA 767-300 ZK-NCI 777-200 ZK-OKA 777-300 ZK-OKN 787-9 ZK-NZK CS100 HB-JBG
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:17 pm

Where does this kind of information come from? The spreadsheets with 767 info is awesome info to have for research.

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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:19 pm

SE-RLD (West Air Sweden) was delivered on 11/30, from @CVG to @CGN. LN 61. 1983-build. Originally delivered to ANA as a passenger 767. Most recently operated by ABX Air. Leased from CAM.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:41 pm

Another B763F has entered service with Kalitta Air after conversion:

Boeing 767‑324(F) 27392 568 N739DH Kalitta Air delivery 03 Dec 2018 QPG-ANC-OSC after freighter conversion ex EI-CMD
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:05 pm

audidudi wrote:
Another B763F has entered service with Kalitta Air after conversion:

Boeing 767‑324(F) 27392 568 N739DH Kalitta Air delivery 03 Dec 2018 QPG-ANC-OSC after freighter conversion ex EI-CMD


Looks like this is another DHL-owned one that Kalitta will be flying for them.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:25 pm

The next B763F for SF Airlines ferried to TPE for freighter conversion this week:

Boeing 767-304 28979 691 B- SF Airlines ferried 01-03 Dec 2018 GYR-PHX-SPN-TPE, N-reg, for freighter conversion ex N661AC
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:20 pm

PS (Ukraine International) has announced its plan to retire its 767-300ER fleet in 2019-2020
Out of four, according to airfleets.com, one is stored, three active now; average age is 26 years.

The news is buried near the end of the press release, announcing withdrawal of 737Classic family from use:
https://www.flyuia.com/ua/en/news/2018/ ... 37-300-500
AN4 A40 L4T TU3 TU5 IL6 ILW I93 F50 F70 100 146 ARJ AT7 DH4 L10 CRJ ERJ E90 E95 DC-9 MD-8X YK4 YK2 SF3 S20 319 320 321 332 333 343 346 722 732 733 734 735 73G 738 739 744 74M 757 767 777
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:03 am

vorellanaj wrote:
Today, 767-300ER replacement with less fuel costs is 787-8 Dreamliner. When Airbus launched and consolidated A330 (specifically when Airbus launched shorter A330 variant), they killed 767 future as passenger jet.


Don't forget the 1988 factor.
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:46 am

El Al 767-300ER 4XEAR currently enroute TLV-BGR-GYR after being retired by the airline in early October.
 
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:54 am

yochai wrote:
El Al 767-300ER 4XEAR currently enroute TLV-BGR-GYR after being retired by the airline in early October.


Potentially a candidate for an Atlas or Kalitta conversion, or even future pax service.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:54 pm

A couple more B767 movements this week:

Boeing 767‑281(F) 23020 96 N787AX ABX Air ferried 06 December 2018 ILN-SNN ex JA8489

Boeing 767-381 25656 510 N112TU ANA Trading Corp ferried 05-06 December 2018 HND-ANC-SBD, for part-out & scrap ex JA8567
 
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:59 pm

audidudi wrote:
A couple more B767 movements this week:

Boeing 767‑281(F) 23020 96 N787AX ABX Air ferried 06 December 2018 ILN-SNN ex JA8489


This guy actually did an air return to ILN, but you're right, it will be exported when it is fixed.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:48 pm

Any activity with the AA B763 fleet? I guess they have 23 frames currently; they should be retired A.S.A.P. a reliability nightmare fleet! needs to GO! MIA needs a 787 or A330 on the MXP route.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:36 pm

PRAirbus wrote:
Any activity with the AA B763 fleet? I guess they have 23 frames currently; they should be retired A.S.A.P. a reliability nightmare fleet! needs to GO! MIA needs a 787 or A330 on the MXP route.

Its actually 24. And the latest fleet plan i have seen shows a retirement schedule of 6 (2019), 13 (2020) and 5 (2021).
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:50 pm

A couple more B763 movements last week:

Boeing 767-352 26262 583 4X-EAR El Al Israel Airlines ferried 06-07 December 2018 TLV-BGR-GYR on return to lessor ex VN-A769

Boeing 767-36D 27941 770 B-2570 Shanghai Airlines ferried 05-07 December 2018 PVG-GUM-HNL-MZJ on return to lessor
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:51 am

Phosphorus wrote:
PS (Ukraine International) has announced its plan to retire its 767-300ER fleet in 2019-2020
Out of four, according to airfleets.com, one is stored, three active now; average age is 26 years.

The news is buried near the end of the press release, announcing withdrawal of 737Classic family from use:
https://www.flyuia.com/ua/en/news/2018/ ... 37-300-500

Those ex-UA and BI have worked very hard for past life, need their well deserved rest.

Any one knows what will happen to EI-DFS ex-UN 763 (LN 403) impounded at HKIA? Not sure if it is a good candidate for cargo conversion. Also UR-AAG (LN 442) and UR-VVW (LN 521). All three are about 25-27 years old.
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:17 pm

An ex-Hawaiian Airlines B763ER has ferried to TLV to be converted into a freighter. I wonder if UA considered this one before selecting N588/590/592HA which are all -3CB (ERs) vs N580HA which is a -33A (ER):

Boeing 767-33A 28140 850 N580HA WFBN ferried 16-17 December 2018 GYR-BGR-TLV, for freighter conversion.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:01 pm

juliuswong wrote:
Phosphorus wrote:
PS (Ukraine International) has announced its plan to retire its 767-300ER fleet in 2019-2020
Out of four, according to airfleets.com, one is stored, three active now; average age is 26 years.

The news is buried near the end of the press release, announcing withdrawal of 737Classic family from use:
https://www.flyuia.com/ua/en/news/2018/ ... 37-300-500

Those ex-UA and BI have worked very hard for past life, need their well deserved rest.

Any one knows what will happen to EI-DFS ex-UN 763 (LN 403) impounded at HKIA? Not sure if it is a good candidate for cargo conversion. Also UR-AAG (LN 442) and UR-VVW (LN 521). All three are about 25-27 years old.

Pratt engines, not as desirable for freighter conversion, although there are a few out there.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:41 pm

jeffrey0032j wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Phosphorus wrote:
PS (Ukraine International) has announced its plan to retire its 767-300ER fleet in 2019-2020
Out of four, according to airfleets.com, one is stored, three active now; average age is 26 years.

The news is buried near the end of the press release, announcing withdrawal of 737Classic family from use:
https://www.flyuia.com/ua/en/news/2018/ ... 37-300-500

Those ex-UA and BI have worked very hard for past life, need their well deserved rest.

Any one knows what will happen to EI-DFS ex-UN 763 (LN 403) impounded at HKIA? Not sure if it is a good candidate for cargo conversion. Also UR-AAG (LN 442) and UR-VVW (LN 521). All three are about 25-27 years old.

Pratt engines, not as desirable for freighter conversion, although there are a few out there.


Also very low time compared to a lot of recently converted airframes, with just 60000 hours and 11000 cycles.

Pratts may be a blessing in disguise, since most of the Amazon fleet are CF6 powered, and not only are they not contributing to the spares pool by not getting scrapped, they're actively gobbling up spare parts. Pratts might be a good move based on availability.
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Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:48 pm

FX was supposed to take a December delivery, but an accident at the Boeing facility resulted in damage to the airframe and a delay. Not having a Boeing connection means I don't have any more detailed info.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:52 pm

Phosphorus wrote:
PS (Ukraine International) has announced its plan to retire its 767-300ER fleet in 2019-2020
Out of four, according to airfleets.com, one is stored, three active now; average age is 26 years.

The news is buried near the end of the press release, announcing withdrawal of 737Classic family from use:
https://www.flyuia.com/ua/en/news/2018/ ... 37-300-500


Good riddance. Don't they operate their 767s in a 2-4-2 configuration in Y. That always sounded like a nightmare experience for a long haul flight.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:44 am

klakzky123 wrote:
Phosphorus wrote:
PS (Ukraine International) has announced its plan to retire its 767-300ER fleet in 2019-2020
Out of four, according to airfleets.com, one is stored, three active now; average age is 26 years.

The news is buried near the end of the press release, announcing withdrawal of 737Classic family from use:
https://www.flyuia.com/ua/en/news/2018/ ... 37-300-500


Good riddance. Don't they operate their 767s in a 2-4-2 configuration in Y. That always sounded like a nightmare experience for a long haul flight.

Yes, they do. Seat map here: https://www.flyuia.com/assets/img/fleet ... 67-300.pdf
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:46 am

Spacepope wrote:
jeffrey0032j wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Those ex-UA and BI have worked very hard for past life, need their well deserved rest.

Any one knows what will happen to EI-DFS ex-UN 763 (LN 403) impounded at HKIA? Not sure if it is a good candidate for cargo conversion. Also UR-AAG (LN 442) and UR-VVW (LN 521). All three are about 25-27 years old.

Pratt engines, not as desirable for freighter conversion, although there are a few out there.


Also very low time compared to a lot of recently converted airframes, with just 60000 hours and 11000 cycles.

Pratts may be a blessing in disguise, since most of the Amazon fleet are CF6 powered, and not only are they not contributing to the spares pool by not getting scrapped, they're actively gobbling up spare parts. Pratts might be a good move based on availability.

Thanks both for your reply. Any reason why RR and GE are more sought after compared to PW? Sorry for asking this, as I didn't follow B767BCF movement diligently. Much thanks for your reply.
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:51 am

audidudi wrote:
An ex-Hawaiian Airlines B763ER has ferried to TLV to be converted into a freighter. I wonder if UA considered this one before selecting N588/590/592HA which are all -3CB (ERs) vs N580HA which is a -33A (ER):

Boeing 767-33A 28140 850 N580HA WFBN ferried 16-17 December 2018 GYR-BGR-TLV, for freighter conversion.


Likely not seriously considered since HA's three -3CB models are the 8-door configuration model. UA's fleet is the 4-door/4-overwing exit configuration.
 
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Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:58 am

juliuswong wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
jeffrey0032j wrote:
Pratt engines, not as desirable for freighter conversion, although there are a few out there.


Also very low time compared to a lot of recently converted airframes, with just 60000 hours and 11000 cycles.

Pratts may be a blessing in disguise, since most of the Amazon fleet are CF6 powered, and not only are they not contributing to the spares pool by not getting scrapped, they're actively gobbling up spare parts. Pratts might be a good move based on availability.

Thanks both for your reply. Any reason why RR and GE are more sought after compared to PW? Sorry for asking this, as I didn't follow B767BCF movement diligently. Much thanks for your reply.

Only the GEs are in hot demand. PW lags quite far behind but still has some demand, especially from pax airlines.

RR 767s are the unwanted frames, there is no STC for a RR powered freighter, and nobody reputable would want any of these as pax planes in the second hand market. The engines are better off being used (in whole or as spare parts) for the RR 747s.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:14 am

jeffrey0032j wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Spacepope wrote:

Also very low time compared to a lot of recently converted airframes, with just 60000 hours and 11000 cycles.

Pratts may be a blessing in disguise, since most of the Amazon fleet are CF6 powered, and not only are they not contributing to the spares pool by not getting scrapped, they're actively gobbling up spare parts. Pratts might be a good move based on availability.

Thanks both for your reply. Any reason why RR and GE are more sought after compared to PW? Sorry for asking this, as I didn't follow B767BCF movement diligently. Much thanks for your reply.

Only the GEs are in hot demand. PW lags quite far behind but still has some demand, especially from pax airlines.

RR 767s are the unwanted frames, there is no STC for a RR powered freighter, and nobody reputable would want any of these as pax planes in the second hand market. The engines are better off being used (in whole or as spare parts) for the RR 747s.

Thanks for the correction jeffrey0032j and the explanation. I have totally forgotten RR-powered 767 are special with few flying around. Only BA, QF and Yunnan Airlines used to fly them.

Here is an Flight International article on BA's 767-336ER to share with others https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFA ... 202385.PDF

I just have a look at 767-300ER production list, seems like a lot of major airlines are still flying the bird. UA, AC, DL, JL and NH, that's few hundreds still flying in pax configuration.
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:41 am

More retirement:
Boeing 767-381 25657 515 N113TU ANA Trading Corp ferried 17-18dec18 HND-ANC-SBD, for part-out & scrap ex JA8568
Boeing 767-381 25659 520 JA8579 ANA All Nippon ferried 07-08dec18 HND-ANC-SBD, for part-out & scrap
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=4
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:48 am

audidudi wrote:
An ex-Hawaiian Airlines B763ER has ferried to TLV to be converted into a freighter. I wonder if UA considered this one before selecting N588/590/592HA which are all -3CB (ERs) vs N580HA which is a -33A (ER):

Boeing 767-33A 28140 850 N580HA WFBN ferried 16-17 December 2018 GYR-BGR-TLV, for freighter conversion.


I have no idea where Skyliner picked up that info , but it is in SAW and not in TLV which makes me think it is not being converted.
 
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Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:02 am

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I have no idea where Skyliner picked up that info , but it is in SAW and not in TLV which makes me think it is not being converted.


Seemed to be pretty-young for a conversion. She is 17 years old and has about 11,000 cycles and about 60,000 hours. More likely she has some passenger opportunities ahead of her, particularly after being well-maintained at a major US carrier for her whole career. A one-owner creampuff with all maintenance records.
 
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Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:24 am

Hey guys, does anyone know or has any sources when Delta will begin retiring more of there 767-300ERs next year? So far there were two airframes that were retired this year, with the two Non-ER airframes going around April.
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:50 pm

wjcandee wrote:
yochai wrote:
I have no idea where Skyliner picked up that info , but it is in SAW and not in TLV which makes me think it is not being converted.


Seemed to be pretty-young for a conversion. She is 17 years old and has about 11,000 cycles and about 60,000 hours. More likely she has some passenger opportunities ahead of her, particularly after being well-maintained at a major US carrier for her whole career. A one-owner creampuff with all maintenance records.

See, looking at hose numbers (that I had posted upthread), those would be the ideal numbers for conversion back in the day before the amazon insanity ensued. This was the hour status on some of the ex-QF 763s when they were retired. Granted some eventually went to Westjet as interim lift, though with the 789 coming online they might find their way back on the market with an additional 10000 hours on the clock.
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:44 am

ATSG bought more ex-AA B763ER for conversion

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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:02 pm

A sixth B762F has entered service with DHL International Bahrain:

Boeing 767-281(F) 23020 96 A9C-DHR DHL Int´l Aviation ME first in svc 19 December 2018 BAH-AUH after transfer ex N787AX
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:52 pm

audidudi wrote:
A sixth B762F has entered service with DHL International Bahrain:

Boeing 767-281(F) 23020 96 A9C-DHR DHL Int´l Aviation ME first in svc 19 December 2018 BAH-AUH after transfer ex N787AX


Yep. We watched it fly over there. They put it into service pretty-quickly.
 
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Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:14 pm

juliuswong wrote:
Thanks both for your reply. Any reason why RR and GE are more sought after compared to PW?

In the long term PW may be the last man standing, since that's what is going on to the new-build tankers.

The USAF and PW seem to be BFFs for lord knows what reason.
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