USAirKid wrote:

millionsofmiles wrote:

I'm not feeling the removal of the PTVs from the majority of the fleet. Passengers perceive PTVs as "value." I know there are many arguments for the advent of streaming content to a PED but there are also numerous disadvantages.

I was traveling recently from LAX to CLT on a former US 321. I was on the aisle in Premium Economy, and when the window seat passenger sat down, he took one look at the blank seatback in front of him and said, "This plane sucks. Where's the TV?"

I really wish they would rethink their decision.

I get on a plane and sigh when I see TVs in the seatbacks. (If a plane is old and still has them overhead, I don't find that as sigh-inducing.)

They just add so much light and motion to the view of an airplane. They especially suck on a redeye where they really light up the cabin.

The other thing is I find most live TV just not to be worth it. I'd much rather have streaming media to a PED, or airline provided viewing screen.

n7371f wrote:

OK Doug.

You know there's a button that turns off the screen in front of you.

usairkid wrote:

They just add so much light and motion to the view of an airplane. They especially suck on a redeye where they really light up the cabin.

USAirKid wrote:

n7371f wrote:

OK Doug.

You know there's a button that turns off the screen in front of you.

Yeah but I can't turn off the screens of the empty seats in front of me. Or the screens of the guy who brings a face mask and puts it on immediately and leaves the in seat TV on.

I kinda mentioned that here:

usairkid wrote:

They just add so much light and motion to the view of an airplane. They especially suck on a redeye where they really light up the cabin.

Basically, built in IFE screens turn the cabin into a sports bar, with TVs all over. I much prefer a lower key atmosphere to relax in.

Jo8338 wrote:

What is the Oasis bird.. haven’t heard that term

Yeah but I can't turn off the screens of the empty seats in front of me. Or the screens of the guy who brings a face mask and puts it on immediately and leaves the in seat TV on.

jbpdx wrote:

When did American drop MIA-SLC?

ORL777 wrote:

jbpdx wrote:

When did American drop MIA-SLC?

This route is seasonal, it must return by Dec 2018.

Saludos

jbs2886 wrote:

ORL777 wrote:

jbpdx wrote:

When did American drop MIA-SLC?

This route is seasonal, it must return by Dec 2018.

Saludos

Why “must” it return?

UpNAWAy wrote:

And all of the A320 Family too (Oasis that is). All the NB in a few years will have identical interiors.

Jo8338 wrote:

What is the Oasis bird.. haven’t heard that term

AA321T wrote:

Runway28L wrote:

DeltaRules wrote:

Where is AA operating the MAX to/from right now? I saw they were going to be on DFW-ANC.

MIA-LGA/UIO/POS/BOS/MCO/POP

MIA-DCA recently had a one-off MAX flight as well.

The late MIA-DEN is one of the next routes to go to the MAX. They’re also running the 738K (the Oasis bird) on MIA-LAS exclusively for the next 5 days, will be interesting to see if that continues.

ripcordd wrote:

No A350 for AA and with costs rising they are looking at reducing fleet type faster than they had planned before. So you will see 330s go quicker.

jbs2886 wrote:

ORL777 wrote:

jbpdx wrote:

When did American drop MIA-SLC?

This route is seasonal, it must return by Dec 2018.

Saludos

Why “must” it return?

ripcordd wrote:

No A350 for AA and with costs rising they are looking at reducing fleet type faster than they had planned before. So you will see 330s go quicker.

American 767 wrote:

ripcordd wrote:

No A350 for AA and with costs rising they are looking at reducing fleet type faster than they had planned before. So you will see 330s go quicker.

The A333s yes, but the A332s still have some time left in the fleet. I think that the last 763s will leave before the 15 A332s will.

American 767 wrote:

ripcordd wrote:

No A350 for AA and with costs rising they are looking at reducing fleet type faster than they had planned before. So you will see 330s go quicker.

The A333s yes, but the A332s still have some time left in the fleet. I think that the last 763s will leave before the 15 A332s will.

Boof02671 wrote:

There are no plans to retire the 332 and they’ve pushed back the retirement of the 333.

Qantas59 wrote:

Forgive me if this has been discussed, but did AA ever go back and install PTVs (leather seats, etc.) on the first batch of 737s that had been delivered without them?
Cheers.

washingtonflyer wrote:

Thank God AA identifies this aircraft separately - 7M8. Allows me to avoid this Hell Ship.

TEY1330 wrote:

Sounds like a “market test”? Maybe there is hope is and enough complain they will suspend or change it. My suggestion: change to 30” pitch with existing seats in regular main cabin to save face and achieve some density and leave everything else as is. Think of the fuel they could buy or stock they could buy back with all the freed up capital and labor!

san747 wrote:

I saw a 737-800 at BOS two days ago in the old colors. I was under the impression that the entire mainline fleet besides the MD-80s had all been repainted as of February. It was definitely not the AstroJet, it was the standard 1967-2012 colors. Is AA keeping one 737 in those colors as a retrojet, like the TWA, AirCal and Reno Air frames? Or has the repainting actually not been completed yet?

N62NA wrote:

san747 wrote:

I saw a 737-800 at BOS two days ago in the old colors. I was under the impression that the entire mainline fleet besides the MD-80s had all been repainted as of February. It was definitely not the AstroJet, it was the standard 1967-2012 colors. Is AA keeping one 737 in those colors as a retrojet, like the TWA, AirCal and Reno Air frames? Or has the repainting actually not been completed yet?

They are keeping one like that.

washingtonflyer wrote:

Heard that all the 77Ws have now completed conversion to PEY cabin. Wonder when we'll see a restart on the 772s.

jgcotter wrote:

N62NA wrote:

san747 wrote:

I saw a 737-800 at BOS two days ago in the old colors. I was under the impression that the entire mainline fleet besides the MD-80s had all been repainted as of February. It was definitely not the AstroJet, it was the standard 1967-2012 colors. Is AA keeping one 737 in those colors as a retrojet, like the TWA, AirCal and Reno Air frames? Or has the repainting actually not been completed yet?

They are keeping one like that.

Yes, that’s N921NN in the bare metal livery. It actually was repainted into the clAAsic livery. The only indication that it's been repainted is that the registration number is in the new font. The classic titles were kept.

American 767 wrote:

jgcotter wrote:

N62NA wrote:

They are keeping one like that.

Yes, that’s N921NN in the bare metal livery. It actually was repainted into the clAAsic livery. The only indication that it's been repainted is that the registration number is in the new font. The classic titles were kept.

Another noticeable difference is the aa.com titles on the winglets are no longer there.

millionsofmiles wrote:

I'm not feeling the removal of the PTVs from the majority of the fleet. Passengers perceive PTVs as "value." I know there are many arguments for the advent of streaming content to a PED but there are also numerous disadvantages.

I was traveling recently from LAX to CLT on a former US 321. I was on the aisle in Premium Economy, and when the window seat passenger sat down, he took one look at the blank seatback in front of him and said, "This plane sucks. Where's the TV?"

I really wish they would rethink their decision.

DeSpringbokke wrote:

washingtonflyer wrote:

Heard that all the 77Ws have now completed conversion to PEY cabin. Wonder when we'll see a restart on the 772s.

I'd look for the restart of the W install, J removal on the twelve remaining 45J 772s in September. Due to the removal of two rows of J, it will take a little longer per mod than the 37J 772s/A330-200s/77Ws. Similar situation for the 788s. Won't be until next year when W installs are complete, leaving only the 24 767s and 9 A330s, which will both be retired in the 2020-2022 timeframe, left without W.

grbauc wrote:

millionsofmiles wrote:

I'm not feeling the removal of the PTVs from the majority of the fleet. Passengers perceive PTVs as "value." I know there are many arguments for the advent of streaming content to a PED but there are also numerous disadvantages.

I was traveling recently from LAX to CLT on a former US 321. I was on the aisle in Premium Economy, and when the window seat passenger sat down, he took one look at the blank seatback in front of him and said, "This plane sucks. Where's the TV?"

I really wish they would rethink their decision.

Yep they missed the boat streaming content is still buggy private TVs would’ve been the way to go it gives people a distraction not everybody has iPads or phones charged with distractions while there is no WiFi until a certain flight level and since WiFi is not free on the planes they dropped the ball.

Hell JetBlue was made on private TVs. Stupid mistake and short sighted. it’s expected on international flights and it could’ve alleviated the pain on the crowded planes of domestic hour 1 to 5 hour domestic flights.

OB1504 wrote:

What would they be leaving as-is? Changing standard main cabin seats to 30” pitch is effectively what they’re doing, along with some needed interior improvements.

They’re not going to change their minds on the 737 configuration. At least they scrapped the 29” pitch idea.

Swadian wrote:

I have not heard that the 45J 77Es will be reconfigured to 37J; I assume it would be the best option for fleet simplicity which is what AA seems to be obsessed with right now.

DeSpringbokke wrote:

Swadian wrote:

I have not heard that the 45J 77Es will be reconfigured to 37J; I assume it would be the best option for fleet simplicity which is what AA seems to be obsessed with right now.

The first 45J to 37J was done back in February. 37J/24W/212Y will be the configuration for all 772s, however, it will still be a mix between Zodiac and B/E Super Diamond seat upfront.

LovePrunesAnet wrote:

another plus for streaming video to your own device...
recent trip I flew on AA had me on planes that resulted in experiencing a mix of seatback screens and no seatback screens. Whenever there's an announcement, the seatback screens go into PAUSE mode, but the streaming videos keep right on streaming over the announcements. Plus with my own device, I can position it whatever direction is comfortable, not have to stare up at a certain spot to view. I love the streaming video to my device; I'm happy they're ripping out the seatback screens.

DeSpringbokke wrote:

Swadian wrote:

I have not heard that the 45J 77Es will be reconfigured to 37J; I assume it would be the best option for fleet simplicity which is what AA seems to be obsessed with right now.

The first 45J to 37J was done back in February. 37J/24W/212Y will be the configuration for all 772s, however, it will still be a mix between Zodiac and B/E Super Diamond seat upfront.

Miamiairport wrote:

Flying out of MIA it’s often over water, the Atlantic going North or the Gulf going West. Often the WiFi won’t kick in over water. The time the flight hits land it’s too late to stream a movie.