FA9295 wrote:

Does anyone here know why DL is flying this 763 on LAX-HNL route: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9941

I believe it's a rescue flight for a HNL-NGO flight that went tech in HNL.

777Mech wrote:

FA9295 wrote:

Does anyone here know why DL is flying this 763 on LAX-HNL route: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9941

I believe it's a rescue flight for a HNL-NGO flight that went tech in HNL.

Yup, that looks to be the culprit (DL611 HNL-NGO was indeed canceled: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /PHNL/RJGG).

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/20

763ER-high J: JFK-DTW ferry flight - passenger rescue (N182DN))

I did notice that DTW - LHR was something like six hours late. Perhaps this is the flight that went? People could not have been happy to be leaving at 1 in the morning.

777Mech wrote:

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

FSDan wrote:

I suppose they'll either switch a few routes back to the 76L configuration, or they're planning on converting a few more than 7 before summer. Currently loaded routes for these two types (looking at the week of June 18):

I think the answer sits somewhere in the middle. The prototype just finished and is now stretching its legs. DL probably didn't know for sure how long each would take until now so did a lot of "plugs" in the schedule between 76L and 76Z. I think we'll see the schedule now tighten up as they figure out how many they want/can complete pre-summer. In terms of routes, i'd look at SEA-AMS, SLC-CDG, ATL-SCL, ATL-BRU, JFK-ACC, JFK-BRU & BOS-CDG. There are all routes that are "migrating" from 76L to 76Z. Timing of those migrations likely to be adjusted to reflect conversion schedule.
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At last count I had 13 frames to be completed by June 1st.

That lines up with the loaded schedule. If that holds, there will be 16 76Ls and 33 76Zs in June. So utilization would be 15/16 76Ls and 32/33 76Zs, which leaves one spare frame for each subfleet.

DeSpringbokke wrote:

On a side note, I noticed Delta's annual report released last month showed they will take only two A350-900s next year and two more in 2020. I remain sceptical Delta will take more A350-900s unless they are replacing the 77L fleet, which is very unlikely, as Airbus officially confirmed they are raising the MTOW on the A330-900neo from 242 tonnes to 251 tonnes, allowing the A330-900neos to fly on routes as long as ATL-NRT. Instead of taking four A330-900neos next year, Delta will take none. This is likely due to Delta becoming the launch customer of the 251 tonne A330-900neo, making the A350-900 redundant on many of its current and future routes such as LAX-PVG. So I'm expecting maybe one, possibly two new Trans-Pac routes next year, most likely some shuffling with KE as I'd be shocked if the ROK Government denies the DL-KE JV.

I am surprised by the decision to delay the 339 in order to get the 251t version. I thought that the 339 deliveries would in part be replacing 763 flying, which made the 339 desirable because it is lighter and cheaper than the 359. If they make the 339 do 359 flying, then what happens to the 763 long haul operation? SEA-PVG on the 763 in the year 2030?

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/21
763ER-high J: ATL-FRA commercial flight - maintenance exit [22 days] (N172DN)
763ER-high J: ZRH-JFK-ZRH flight cancelled - weather (N175DN)
763ER-high J: ACC-JFK ferry flight following previous day cancellation (N176DN)
763ER-high J: JFK-LHR flight cancelled - weather (N176DN)
763ER-high J: CDG-BOS-CDG flight cancelled - weather (N177DN)
763ER-high J: LHR-JFK flight cancelled - weather (N179DN)
763ER-high J: JFK-LHR flight cancelled - weather (N184DN)
763ER-high J: BRU-JFK-BRU flight cancelled - weather (N174DZ)
763ER-high J: LHR-JFK-LHR flight cancelled - weather (N1605)
763ER-low J: NRT-NGO ferry flight - passenger rescue (N187DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-SLC route (N191DN)
763ER-low J: HNL-LAX ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N192DN)
763ER-low J: CAN-NRT ferry flight - maintenance exit [14 days] (N194DN)
763ER-low J: LAX-HNL-NGO ferry flight - passenger rescue (N199DN)
763ER-high J: LHR-BOS-LHR flight cancelled - weather (N171DZ)
332: unscheduled swap from 763ER-high J on SEA-NRT-SEA route (N853NW)
764: SFO-JFK-SFO flight cancelled - weather (N828MH)
764: SFO-JFK-SFO flight cancelled - weather (N843MH)
333: CDG-JFK-CDG flight cancelled - weather (N801NW)
333: DFW-JAN-BIF-MSP military charter (N802NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on SLC-ATL route (N803NW)

TW870 wrote:

DeSpringbokke wrote:

On a side note, I noticed Delta's annual report released last month showed they will take only two A350-900s next year and two more in 2020. I remain sceptical Delta will take more A350-900s unless they are replacing the 77L fleet, which is very unlikely, as Airbus officially confirmed they are raising the MTOW on the A330-900neo from 242 tonnes to 251 tonnes, allowing the A330-900neos to fly on routes as long as ATL-NRT. Instead of taking four A330-900neos next year, Delta will take none. This is likely due to Delta becoming the launch customer of the 251 tonne A330-900neo, making the A350-900 redundant on many of its current and future routes such as LAX-PVG. So I'm expecting maybe one, possibly two new Trans-Pac routes next year, most likely some shuffling with KE as I'd be shocked if the ROK Government denies the DL-KE JV.

I am surprised by the decision to delay the 339 in order to get the 251t version. I thought that the 339 deliveries would in part be replacing 763 flying, which made the 339 desirable because it is lighter and cheaper than the 359. If they make the 339 do 359 flying, then what happens to the 763 long haul operation? SEA-PVG on the 763 in the year 2030?

The 763 is becoming/has become the new DC9. Looks like the 797 can’t come soon enough for DL.

Delta 275 returned to gate in DTW with a seat belt problem in business class. I know this for fact as I am on the plane now. And hoping to make my connection to the Manila flight or they hold the flight. I guess there is 70 people on this flight going to Manila.

beertrucker wrote:

Delta 275 returned to gate in DTW with a seat belt problem in business class. I know this for fact as I am on the plane now. And hoping to make my connection to the Manila flight or they hold the flight. I guess there is 70 people on this flight going to Manila.

Right after I hit send they closed the doors and preparing to push back again.

beertrucker wrote:

beertrucker wrote:

Delta 275 returned to gate in DTW with a seat belt problem in business class. I know this for fact as I am on the plane now. And hoping to make my connection to the Manila flight or they hold the flight. I guess there is 70 people on this flight going to Manila.

Right after I hit send they closed the doors and preparing to push back again.

Usually is between 60-100 each flight.

dampfnudel wrote:

The 763 is becoming/has become the new DC9. Looks like the 797 can’t come soon enough for DL.

Not even close. NW's DC-9-30/40 fleet averaged close to 40-years-old when NW began to phase out the type, and many made it past that milestone before the fleet type was gone. DL's 763ER average 21.5 years, nearly half as young.

DL took delivery of a large number of late model 763/764 for its domestic network, which were eventually moved into long-haul use. Do not confuse the type being old with the planes being old...

compensateme wrote:

dampfnudel wrote:

The 763 is becoming/has become the new DC9. Looks like the 797 can’t come soon enough for DL.

Not even close. NW's DC-9-30/40 fleet averaged close to 40-years-old when NW began to phase out the type, and many made it past that milestone before the fleet type was gone. DL's 763ER average 21.5 years, nearly half as young.

DL took delivery of a large number of late model 763/764 for its domestic network, which were eventually moved into long-haul use. Do not confuse the type being old with the planes being old...

Well, maybe some of Delta’s 767 fleet will be over 30-years-old before they’re phased out, maybe replaced by the 797.

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/22
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on MSP-LAS-MSP route (N140LL)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on MSP-ATL-MSP route (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 739 on JFK-ATL route (N176DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 739 on ATL-JFK route (N178DN)
763ER-high J: CDG-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N185DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on SLC-ATL route (N1602)
763ER-high J: DTW-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1605)
763ER-high J: JFK-GRU route downgraded from 333 effective 3/22
763ER-low J: NGO-NRT ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N199DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on LHR-JFK-GRU route (N171DZ)
772: additional ATL-SEA passenger flight - aircraft positioning (N860DA)
772: unscheduled swap from 77L on ATL-NRT-ATL route (N861DA)
333: scheduled upgrade from 763ER-low J on JFK-AMS-JFK route (N801NW)
359: DTW-CVG-ATL training & repositioning flight (N505DN)

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/23
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on MSP-PHX-MSP route (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled stop in BOS on LHR-DTW flight - medical (N178DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled stop in YUL on LHR-DTW flight - medical (N183DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N169DZ)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N172DZ)
763ER-high J: BOS-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N16065)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-ACC-JFK route (N189DN)
763ER-low J: LAX-SLC ferry flight - passenger rescue (N192DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on JFK-GRU-JFK route (N193DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled downgrade from 333 on GRU-MCO route (N171DZ)
332: scheduled downgrade from 333 on CDG-JFK route (N859NW)
772: SEA-HKG route upgraded from 332 effective 3/23 (N860DA)
772: ATL-MSP ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N865DA)
772: unscheduled swap from 333 on ATL-GRU-ATL route (N866DA)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 332 on DTW-CDG route (N801NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 739 on ATL-MSP route (N803NW)
333: MSP-CDG route upgraded from 332 effective 3/23 (N806NW)
333: scheduled upgrade from 763ER-low J on JFK-AMS-JFK route (N809NW)
359: DTW-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N504DN)

- March 24, 2018: DL143 AMS-SEA Boeing 777-232(ER) N862DA

N504DN operated the first A350 flight, DL27, from ATL>ICN earlier today. This replaces the B772ER/LR which previously operated the route.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N504DN

factsonly wrote:

- March 24, 2018: DL143 AMS-SEA Boeing 777-232(ER) N862DA

Yep, SEA-HKG gets switched to the 772ER for the summer season, finally. Going forward the plane will come into SEA from CDG.

1602 has entered ATL for the L2Z mod.

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/23
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on MSP-PHX-MSP route (N1402A)

Flew this on 3/23 on the 7:25AM from ATL-MSP which was the 753 sub from day prior. ~100 empty seats, wish I had skipped the Comfort+ upgrade and sat in the back somewhere to take a whole row to myself. This was one worn out and tired 763 - guessing she is nearing retirement.

G500Captain wrote:

factsonly wrote:

- March 24, 2018: DL143 AMS-SEA Boeing 777-232(ER) N862DA

Yep, SEA-HKG gets switched to the 772ER for the summer season, finally. Going forward the plane will come into SEA from CDG.

Doesn't the 772 have the old IFE and seats vs the A332?

pezzy669 wrote:

G500Captain wrote:

factsonly wrote:

- March 24, 2018: DL143 AMS-SEA Boeing 777-232(ER) N862DA

Yep, SEA-HKG gets switched to the 772ER for the summer season, finally. Going forward the plane will come into SEA from CDG.

Doesn't the 772 have the old IFE and seats vs the A332?

The 772s have the Herringbone seats which all face inwards, away from the windows, and are a different make from those in the A332s/333s. The first one to have the D1 Suites installed has been at SIN for five weeks already, and may be there for another two more months! I'n not sure what the difference is between the IFE in the current 772s vs the A332s/333s.

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/24
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on MSP-ATL route (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 739 on ATL-JFK route (N171DN)
763ER-high J: scheduled downgrade from 333 on DTW-AMS route (N176DN)
763ER-high J: 2nd daily BOS-AMS-BOS flight effective 3/24 (N177DN)
763ER-high J: scheduled additional MSP-ATL flight (N178DN)
763ER-high J: ATL-STR route downgraded from 764 effective 3/24 (N182DN)
763ER-high J: JFK-BOS ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N183DN)
763ER-high J: JFK-BOS ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N169DZ)
763ER-high J: JFK-EWR ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N172DZ)
763ER-high J: EWR-CDG route upgraded from 752 effective 3/24 (N172DZ)
763ER-high J: scheduled downgrade from 333 on DTW-AMS route (N173DZ)
763ER-high J: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on SLC-ATL route (N1603)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on JFK-AMS route (N1604R)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 320 on JFK-ATL route (N152DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on LAX-HNL route (N156DL)
763ER-low J: scheduled downgrade from 764 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N191DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on SLC-CDG route (N192DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on HNL-LAX route (N194DN)
763ER-low J: MCO-GRU route downgraded from 333 effective 3/24 (N171DZ)
332: scheduled downgrade from 333 on CDG-JFK route (N851NW)
332: JFK-ZRH route migrates from 763ER-high J effective 3/24 (N851NW)
332: scheduled downgrade from 333 on ATL-PHX-ATL route (N853NW)
332: 1x daily ATL-LHR route migrates from 763ER-high J effective 3/24 (N854NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on SEA-AMS-MSP route (N855NW)
332: 6x weekly DTW-LHR route migrates from 763ER-high J effective 3/24 (N856NW)
332: 1x daily JFK-LHR route migrates from 763ER-high J effective 3/24 (N859NW)
332: PVG-NRT ferry flight - maintenance exit [42 days] (N860NW)
332: ATL-DTW ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N861NW)
764: scheduled upgrade from 319 on JFK-MSP route (N841MH)
764: JFK-MAD route upgraded from 763ER-low J effective 3/24 (N843MH)
772: unscheduled swap from 333 on AMS-SEA route (N862DA)
77L: unscheduled swap from 333 on LAX-HND route (N706DN)
333: 6x weekly DTW-FCO flight effective 3/24 (N801NW)
333: DTW-MSP ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N804NW)
333: scheduled upgrade from 763ER-high J on SLC-AMS route (N805NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 332 on CDG-SEA route (N806NW)
333: scheduled upgrade from 763ER-high J on MSP-LHR route (N808NW)
333: PDX-AMS route upgraded from 763ER-low J effective 3/24 (N809NW)
333: 2nd daily ATL-AMS-ATL flight effective 3/24 (N812NW)
333: ATL-CDG route upgraded from 763ER-high J effective 3/24 (N819NW)
333: MSP-AMS route migrates from 772 effective 3/24 (N821NW)
333: scheduled additional MSP-ATL flight (N822NW)
333: 1x daily ATL-LHR route upgraded from 763ER-high J effective 3/24 (N822NW)
333: JFK-FCO route migrates from 764 effective 3/24 (N827NW)
333: additional MSP-JFK flight (N830NW)
333: scheduled upgrade from 763ER-low J on JFK-AMS-JFK route (N830NW)
359: ATL-ICN route migrates from 772 effective 3/24 (N504DN)
359: ATL-DTW ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N505DN)

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/24

772: unscheduled swap from 333 on AMS-SEA route (N862DA)

As always, thanks a bunch hkcanexpat!!!

According to the current Delta schedule, this swap was scheduled.

Mar-24 Mar-24 AMS 9:40a SEA 11:38a - - - - - 6 - DL0143 777 0 9h 58m

Any ideal why the delta 27 a350 diverted to kix after reaching the Seoul area?

ap305 wrote:

Any ideal why the delta 27 a350 diverted to kix after reaching the Seoul area?

apparently there was heavy fog in seoul and was running out of fuel.

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

ap305 wrote:

Any ideal why the delta 27 a350 diverted to kix after reaching the Seoul area?

apparently there was heavy fog in seoul and was running out of fuel.

Thanks

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/25
763: scheduled upgrade from 739 on MSP-ATL route (N140LL)
763: Daily ATL-SLC-HNL downgraded from 333 effective 3/25 (N140LL)
763: Double Daily MSP-MCO downgraded to 752 effective 3/24
763: Daily MSP-RSW downgraded to 752 effective 3/25
763ER-high J: scheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N172DN)
763ER-high J: scheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-DTW-AMS route (N177DN)
763ER-high J: SLC-AMS route migrates from low-J effective 3/25 (N173DZ)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on ATL-SLC-ATL route (N1603)
763ER-high J: 2nd Daily SEA-AMS rotation effective 3/25 (N1604R)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-ATL route (N16065)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 320 on ATL-JFK route (N152DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on CDG-CVG-CDG route (N192DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled downgrade from 333 on MCO-MSP-MSO route (N193DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional JFK-SFO-JFK flight (N194DN)
332: JFK-DTW ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N854NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-MSP route (N855NW)
332: unscheduled swap from 763ER-high J on MSP-LHR route (N855NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on CDG-JFK route (N858NW)
764: 1x daily ATL-HNL route migrates from 333 effective 3/25 (N831MH)
764: 4x weekly JFK-ACC route migrates from 763ER-high J effective 3/25 (N837MH)
764: 1x daily MSP-HNL route migrates from 333 effective 3/25 (N841MH)
764: unscheduled swap from 333 on ATL-LAX-ATL route (N842MH)
772: scheduled swap from 333 on MSP-CDG route (N864DA)
772: unscheduled swap from 77L on ATL-NRT-ATL route (N866DA)
772: 1x daily LAX-HND migrates from 333 effective 3/25 (N867DA)
77L: MSP-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N706DN)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on CDG-SEA route (N811NW)
333: unscheduled swap from 332 on SEA-CDG route (N812NW)
333: scheduled upgrade from 763ER-low J on JFK-AMS-JFK route (N818NW)
333: DTW-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N820NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 332 on JFK-LHR route (N820NW)
333: 1x daily JFK-AMS migrates from 763ER-low J effective 3/25 (N821NW)
333: 1x daily ATL-DUB effective 3/25 (N822NW)
333: 1x daily ATL-AMS migrates from 772 effective 3/25 (N824NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 712 on MSP-JFK route (N826NW)
333: 1x daily ATL-FCO migrates from 764 effective 3/25 (N828NW)
359: ATL-ICN flight diverted to KIX - weather (N507DN)

Utilizing an increased MTOW aircraft on JNB-ATL won't help, that flight is performance limited due to the high field elevation at JNB.

Can anyone tell me what N180DN is doing? I frequently fly to MNL, about every month or two, and we have had 763ERs for sometime now. I like to track the tail #s of each plane I have been on, but last Tuesday I fell asleep before jotting down that number. So going through FlightAware today trying to find the tail #, having to copy and paste the whole fleet and when doing so I came across N180DN. Last flight was from Provo, UT (PVU) to Colorado City, AZ (AZC) last Tuesday. I am intrigued as I live in the Provo area and can tell you that there is hardly any widebody aircraft, let alone anything larger than an A319 ever coming in or out of that airport. First thought was maybe a BYU or UVU athletic charter, but there is no collegiate team in Colorado City, nor is there a large enough athletic team at either of those schools besides BYU football that would require a widebody 763ER. Anyone have a clue?

However FR24 is showing no flights since it arrived at CAN for a heavy mx check over three weeks ago! I would tend to believe FR24 on this info, rather than FlightAware!

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N180DN

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n180dn

Thanks audiaudi! Makes sense to me. Where does Delta send for mx checks? I know CAN, but what other airports? Is SBD do any mx checks or just storage? What about AMA?

OptimusPrime315 wrote:

Thanks audiaudi! Makes sense to me. Where does Delta send for mx checks? I know CAN, but what other airports? Is SBD do any mx checks or just storage? What about AMA?

Widebody checks these days occur mainly in CAN, PVG, SIN, QPG, ATL, MSP, ILN. Widebody painting also at AMA.
As for your other query, DL does fly a number of military charters to non commercial fields including Colorado Springs. Perhaps that what you saw.

OptimusPrime315 wrote:

Can anyone tell me what N180DN is doing? I frequently fly to MNL, about every month or two, and we have had 763ERs for sometime now. I like to track the tail #s of each plane I have been on, but last Tuesday I fell asleep before jotting down that number. So going through FlightAware today trying to find the tail #, having to copy and paste the whole fleet and when doing so I came across N180DN. Last flight was from Provo, UT (PVU) to Colorado City, AZ (AZC) last Tuesday. I am intrigued as I live in the Provo area and can tell you that there is hardly any widebody aircraft, let alone anything larger than an A319 ever coming in or out of that airport. First thought was maybe a BYU or UVU athletic charter, but there is no collegiate team in Colorado City, nor is there a large enough athletic team at either of those schools besides BYU football that would require a widebody 763ER. Anyone have a clue?

This must be an error? Especially if you look at the altitude and speed of the flight... Doesn't match up with a 767, and a 767 couldn't make that flight in 26 min either...

There isn't even a DL flight # associated with the FlightAware link I posted, so I believe it was bogus!

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/26
763: scheduled upgrade from 321 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N140LL)
763ER-high J: GRU-JFK flight cancelled - tech (N171DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 739 on ATL-FLL-ATL route (N1201P)
763ER-high J: 1x daily JFK-AMS flight migrates from low-J effective 3/26 (N1605)
763ER-high J: 4x weekly JFK-SFO flight downgraded to 752 effective 3/26
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N181DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled downgrade from 764 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N189DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on CDG-BOS-AMS route (N192DN)
332: 2nd daily JFK-LHR flight migrates from 763ER-high J effective 3/26 (N853NW)
332: NRT-SEA ferry flight - maintenance swap (N860NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 772 on SEA-HKG-SEA route (N860NW)
332: 3x weekly JFK-LOS flight effective 3/26 (N861NW)
764: ATL-DEN commercial flight - maintenance exit [23 days] (N826MH)
772: 1x daily SEA-CDG flight upgraded from 332 effective 3/26 (N862DA)
772: CDG-SEA flight cancelled - tech (N864DA)

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/27
763ER-high J: GRU-JFK ferry flight following previous day cancellation (N171DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-TPA-ATL route (N185DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N1201P)
763ER-low J: SLC-AMA ferry flight - paint entry (N154DL)
763ER-low J: AMA-ATL ferry flight - paint exit [11 days] (N155DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO route (N155DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on MCO-ATL route (N193DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N194DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on NRT-SEA-NRT route (N199DN)
763ER-low J: EWR-AMS route discontinued effective 3/24
764: unscheduled swap from 333 on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N841MH)
772: CDG-SEA ferry flight following previous day cancellation (N864DA)
772: unscheduled swap from 77L on ATL-NRT-ATL route (N867DA)
333: BOS-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N812NW)

TW870 wrote:

DeSpringbokke wrote:

On a side note, I noticed Delta's annual report released last month showed they will take only two A350-900s next year and two more in 2020. I remain sceptical Delta will take more A350-900s unless they are replacing the 77L fleet, which is very unlikely, as Airbus officially confirmed they are raising the MTOW on the A330-900neo from 242 tonnes to 251 tonnes, allowing the A330-900neos to fly on routes as long as ATL-NRT. Instead of taking four A330-900neos next year, Delta will take none. This is likely due to Delta becoming the launch customer of the 251 tonne A330-900neo, making the A350-900 redundant on many of its current and future routes such as LAX-PVG. So I'm expecting maybe one, possibly two new Trans-Pac routes next year, most likely some shuffling with KE as I'd be shocked if the ROK Government denies the DL-KE JV.

I am surprised by the decision to delay the 339 in order to get the 251t version. I thought that the 339 deliveries would in part be replacing 763 flying, which made the 339 desirable because it is lighter and cheaper than the 359. If they make the 339 do 359 flying, then what happens to the 763 long haul operation? SEA-PVG on the 763 in the year 2030?

It was never likely the 339 would be replacing the 763 directly on most routes. I do think SEA-ICN/PVG/PEK will move from the 767 to 339 but the majority of the 339 "replacing" the 767 will come from the 339 replacing 333s which replace 764/332s which replace 763s.

On top of that the 251t 339s gives Delta the ability to add capacity to its newest JV hub in ICN to a big chunk of the US. Example, MSP-ICN(and HND) should be easily doable for the 339.

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/28
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N140LL)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N174DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N185DN)
763ER-low J: JFK-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N187DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-ATL route (N189DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-JFK route (N193DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-SLC route (N194DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on SLC-JFK route (N198DN)
764: unscheduled swap from 333 on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N826MH)
333: JFK-BOS ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N806NW)

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/29
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N184DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on ATL-PHX-ATL route (N175DZ)
763ER-low J: NRT-EDF-PAM-ATL military charter (N394DL)
763ER-low J: ATL-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N189DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled downgrade from 764 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N189DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N192DN)
763ER-low J: JFK-MCO ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N193DN)
332: SEA-DTW ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N860NW)
764: unscheduled swap from 333 on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N833MH)
764: ATL-SEA ferry flight - maintenance swap (N837MH)
772: unscheduled swap from 77L on ATL-NRT-ATL route (N866DA)
77L: JNB-ATL flight cancelled - tech (N705DN)
333: DTW-ATL ferry flight - airline repositioning (N817NW)
359: ATL-DTW ferry flight - induction exit (N508DN)

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/30
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N178DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-FLL-ATL route (N178DZ)
763ER-low J: scheduled downgrade from 333 on MCO-MSP-MCO route (N155DL)
763ER-low J: ATL-BIF-LIT-MCO military charter (N394DL)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional ATL-SLC flight (N187DN)
763ER-low J: 1x daily JFK-BRU route migrates from high-J effective 3/30 (N189DN)
763ER-low J: 1x daily MCO-AMS route inaugurated effective 3/30 (N171DZ)
764: SEA-NRT ferry flight - maintenance swap (N837MH)
764: unscheduled swap from 333 on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N845MH)
772: unscheduled swap from 77L on ATL-NRT-ATL route (N866DA)
77L: JNB-ATL ferry flight following previous day cancellation (N705DN)
333: 1x weekly DTW-LHR flight migrates from 763ER-high J effective 3/30 (N820NW)

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 3/31
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low J on JFK-BRU-JFK route (N172DN)
763ER-high J: ATL-SEA ferry flight - maintenance swap (N16065)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on LAX-HNL-LAX flight (N181DN)
763ER-low J: JFK-LSE-BOS-JFK military charter (N192DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 320 on JFK-ATL flight (N192DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled downgrade from 333 on MCO-MSP-MCO route (N193DN)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on DTW-AMS-DTW route (N852NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on DTW-AMS-DTW route (N857NW)
764: NRT-CAN ferry flight - maintenance entry (N837MH)
333: 1x daily DTW-CDG flight upgraded from 332 effective 3/31 (N803NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 332 on LHR-JFK-LHR route (N820NW)
359: 1x daily DTW-AMS flight (4th daily total) launched effective 3/31 (N502DN)

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/1
763: scheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-DTW-ATL route (N140LL)
763ER-high J: scheduled upgrade from 739 on JFK-ATL-JFK route (N171DN)
763ER-high J: 1x daily SLC-LHR flight effective 4/1 (N172DZ)
763ER-high J: scheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-RDU route (N1603)
763ER-high J: 1x daily RDU-CDG flight effective 4/1 (N1603)
763ER-high J: SEA-NRT ferry flight - maintenance swap (N16065)
763ER-low J: scheduled downgrade from 764 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N181DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high J on SLC-AMS route (N187DN)
763ER-low J: SLC-AMS migrates from high-J effective 4/1 (N187DN)
763ER-low J: JFK-AMS migrates from high-J effective 4/1 (N189DN)
763ER-low J: HNL-NRT route decreases from 10x weekly to daily effective 4/1 (N191DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled additional ATL-LAX flight (N192DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled downgrade from 333 on MCO-MSP-MCO route (N171DZ)
763ER-low J: MCO-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N171DZ)
763ER-low J: ATL-JFK-BRU commercial flight - maintenance exit L-to-Z [9 days] (N1602)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-DTW-AMS route (N852NW)
332: scheduled downgrade from 333 on ATL-PHX-ATL route (N853NW)
764: 1x daily JFK-VCE flight effective 4/1 (N842MH)
772: SEA-MSP ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N860DA)
772: scheduled upgrade from 752 on MSP-SEA route (N861DA)
772: unscheduled upgrade from 739 on ATL-LAX-ATL route (N866DA)
333: 3rd daily MSP-AMS flight effective 4/1 (N811NW)
333: scheduled upgrade from 753 on ATL-MSP route (N817NW)

Quick question on 777 rotations. How are they getting the airplane onto the CDG-SEA-HKG operation? I figured they would rotate it through CDG from either DTW or ATL, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have the same question about MSP-HND. I see above that there is a schedule upgrade from MSP-SEA. Will we see this regularly to get airplanes between operations?

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/2
763: scheduled upgrade from 739 on ATL-CUN-ATL route (N140LL)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-SFO-ATL route (N172DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-SFO-ATL route (N169DZ)
763ER-high J: unscheduled downgrade from 764 on JFK-LAX-ATL route (N1604R)
763ER-high J: NRT-CAN ferry flight - maintenance entry (N16065)
763ER-low J: SEA-AMS migrates from high-J effective 4/2 (N187DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on LAX-MCO route (N192DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on MCO-ATL route (N193DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 763 on SLC-ATL route (N194DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled downgrade from 764 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N197DN)
763ER-low J: ATL-SLC-AMS commercial flight - maintenance exit L-to-Z [8 days] (N176DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 763 on ATL-SLC route (N176DZ)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-MSP-AMS route (N852NW)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 763ER-low J on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N831MH)
764: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on ATL-PHX-ATL route (N832MH)
764: scheduled upgrade from 763ER-low J on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N834MH)
764: 1x daily ATL-DEN flight downgraded to 739 effective 4/2
772: SEA-MSP ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N864DA)
772: unscheduled swap from 77L on ATL-NRT-ATL route (N866DA)
772: scheduled upgrade from 752 on MSP-SEA route (N867DA)

TW870 wrote:

Quick question on 777 rotations. How are they getting the airplane onto the CDG-SEA-HKG operation? I figured they would rotate it through CDG from either DTW or ATL, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have the same question about MSP-HND. I see above that there is a schedule upgrade from MSP-SEA. Will we see this regularly to get airplanes between operations?

Its currently getting rotated through the odd scheduled/unscheduled upgrades on MSP-SEA flights as well as ferry flights on the same segment. Not great but it works.

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

TW870 wrote:

Quick question on 777 rotations. How are they getting the airplane onto the CDG-SEA-HKG operation? I figured they would rotate it through CDG from either DTW or ATL, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have the same question about MSP-HND. I see above that there is a schedule upgrade from MSP-SEA. Will we see this regularly to get airplanes between operations?

Its currently getting rotated through the odd scheduled/unscheduled upgrades on MSP-SEA flights as well as ferry flights on the same segment. Not great but it works.

I noticed this too, they seem to have 3 isolated routes when you include ATL-NRT. The MSP-HND cycles to LAX also.

G500Captain wrote:

I noticed this too, they seem to have 3 isolated routes when you include ATL-NRT. The MSP-HND cycles to LAX also.

ATL-NRT is a 77L route (despite the current 772 unscheduled swaps due to unscheduled maintenance on N703DN) and rotates nicely on a ATL-NRT-JNB-ATL-LAX-PVG-DTW-PVG-LAX-SYD-LAX-ATL cycle. The 772 routes do remain segregated with MSP-HND-LAX-HND-MSP and SEA-CDG-SEA-HKG-SEA.

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

G500Captain wrote:

I noticed this too, they seem to have 3 isolated routes when you include ATL-NRT. The MSP-HND cycles to LAX also.

ATL-NRT is a 77L route (despite the current 772 unscheduled swaps due to unscheduled maintenance on N703DN) and rotates nicely on a ATL-NRT-JNB-ATL-LAX-PVG-DTW-PVG-LAX-SYD-LAX-ATL cycle. The 772 routes do remain segregated with MSP-HND-LAX-HND-MSP and SEA-CDG-SEA-HKG-SEA.

Oops, yep sure enough, like you say the 77E has been subbing a bunch for the L and I guess I assumed it was assigned to the route. It looks like SEA-CDG is going to a 76T this fall and HKG will remain a 77E for the foreseeable future. Do you happen to know how they’ll cycle the planes into SEA once this happens or are they just going to leave a couple of planes on that route and do occasional swaps?

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

TW870 wrote:

Quick question on 777 rotations. How are they getting the airplane onto the CDG-SEA-HKG operation? I figured they would rotate it through CDG from either DTW or ATL, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have the same question about MSP-HND. I see above that there is a schedule upgrade from MSP-SEA. Will we see this regularly to get airplanes between operations?

Its currently getting rotated through the odd scheduled/unscheduled upgrades on MSP-SEA flights as well as ferry flights on the same segment. Not great but it works.

In the summer schedule, the routing should be MSP-HND-LAX-HND-MSP-CDG-SEA-HKG-SEA-CDG-MSP.

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/3
763ER-high J: BOS-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N175DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low J on AMS-JFK-LAX flight (N177DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled downgrade from 764 on LAX-JFK flight (N177DN)
763ER-high J: ATL-MSP ferry flight - passenger rescue (N179DN)
763ER-high J: LHR-MSP flight cancelled - tech (N183DN)
763ER-high J: 6x weekly JFK-LAX flight downgraded from 764 effective 4/3 (N185DN)
763ER-low J: 5x weekly seasonal SLC-OGG flight cancelled effective 4/3 (N189DN)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional SLC-JFK flight (N189DN)
763ER-low J: 1x daily BOS-AMS flight migrates from high-J effective 4/3 (N192DN)
763ER-low J: ATL-SLC ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N194DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on NRT-SEA-NRT route (N195DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-BRU route (N171DZ)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-DTW-AMS route (N852NW)
332: DTW-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N856NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on JFK-AMS route (N858NW)
764: scheduled additional MSP-ATL flight (N836MH)
764: CAN-NRT ferry flight - maintenance exit [17 days] (N839MH)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N842MH)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-JFK route (N844MH)
764: 1x daily ATL-LAX flight downgraded to 739 effective 4/3
333: unscheduled upgrade from 332 on JFK-LHR-JFK route (N806NW)
333: 1x daily ATL-PHX flight downgraded to 321 effective 4/3
333: 1x daily ATL-CUN flight downgraded to 739 effective 4/3
333: 1x daily MSP-CUN flight downgraded to 752 effective 4/3
333: 3x weekly MSP-MCO flight downgraded to 753 effective 4/3