Jshank83
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Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:05 pm

STL doesn't want to be shown up by the CMH runway 5k and is having one of their own. Special Olympics fundraiser.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... 68eba.html
 
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Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:36 am

I finished the February. Frequency to city by each airline spreadsheet.

Not a ton of changes.
Oak takes the month off on WN (but it was supposed to be 2 1/2 months and got reduced to a month)
DLs seasonal to MCO starts.
Puerto Vallartas seasonal starts up Swift
AA adds 11 weekly flights and a few more mainline.
Decatur switches from Air Choice One to Cape Air.
Allegiant adds 4 weeklys.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

I see the new PDEW numbers are out so I will update that this weekend and I should finally finish my load factor spreadsheet also (although now I need to update it for October)
 
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Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:59 am

Jshank83 wrote:
I finished the February. Frequency to city by each airline spreadsheet.

Not a ton of changes.
Oak takes the month off on WN (but it was supposed to be 2 1/2 months and got reduced to a month)
DLs seasonal to MCO starts.
Puerto Vallartas seasonal starts up Swift
AA adds 11 weekly flights and a few more mainline.
Decatur switches from Air Choice One to Cape Air.
Allegiant adds 4 weeklys.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

I see the new PDEW numbers are out so I will update that this weekend and I should finally finish my load factor spreadsheet also (although now I need to update it for October)

Thank you, this is very organized
 
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Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:06 am

The load factor spread sheet is completely up to date now. International is through July, Domestic through October.

The first tab has a summery of all of the airlines/routes for the year. There is a summery tab for each airline before individual tabs for each route from that airline. The individual tabs have to broken down by month. Summery tabs are by year.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
 
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Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:03 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
The load factor spread sheet is completely up to date now. International is through July, Domestic through October.

The first tab has a summery of all of the airlines/routes for the year. There is a summery tab for each airline before individual tabs for each route from that airline. The individual tabs have to broken down by month. Summery tabs are by year.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing



Thank you! This is VERY informative. Now, looking at the International numbers on XTRA, it would lend me to believe that WN could have some business opportunities to MBJ and PUJ non-strop from STL. That would be my bet. Seeing the SDJ is only around 50% that won't happen and will have to filter through HOU, DEN, etc. :-(
 
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Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:18 pm

TWA302 wrote:

Thank you! This is VERY informative. Now, looking at the International numbers on XTRA, it would lend me to believe that WN could have some business opportunities to MBJ and PUJ non-strop from STL. That would be my bet. Seeing the SDJ is only around 50% that won't happen and will have to filter through HOU, DEN, etc. :-(


I think those make the most sense for WN to venture into next. PUJ runs twice weekly for a big chunk of the year (Jan-Aug), MBJ does for 2 months (Jun-July). They both run 1x weekly the rest of the year. I think Aruba would be fun but I am not sure I see WN taking a chance on it without any background here. The other two like you mentioned are probably safer picks. I am curious how the CUN flights have been doing. Since the upgraded them to daily over March it leads me to believe they haven't had any trouble selling them.
 
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Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:03 pm

Sounds like tomorrow they are opening the bids from whoever is wanting to help the airport pick from future bids, from firms who want run the airport, if it privatizes.

Apparently we need to hire people to pick the people or something.
 
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Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:03 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
Sounds like tomorrow they are opening the bids from whoever is wanting to help the airport pick from future bids, from firms who want run the airport, if it privatizes.

Apparently we need to hire people to pick the people or something.



Makes sense! :banghead:
 
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Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:19 am

Article on the privatization status:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt ... 6af75.html

Editorial on it:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/colu ... 8a2d1.html

I still think this is a horrible idea.
 
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Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:56 am

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Feeling a little pride with the error stated in the article. Photographer states the 757 was the first to land on the new runway. Nope - it was an MD-83 ironically an ex TWA bird that did it. I know because I was there and I took the pic of the Mad Dog in this link when I worked for STL.

http://webpages.charter.net/dandassow/Flight_2470.htm
Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talkin'!

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