Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread 2018

bspc · Fri May 11, 2018 7:30 pm

The First A320neo for Iberia performed its First Flight today - https://a320archive.com/msn/8221

bspc · Fri May 11, 2018 7:32 pm

keesje wrote:
bspc wrote:
VV wrote:
According to the latest Airbus orders and deliveries spreadsheet, Airbus delivered fewer A320 family aircraft during the first four months of 2018 than during the same period last year. Most probably there are built aircraft that have not been delivered.

I would like to know how many A320 and A320neo airframes are ready, but cannot be delivered for any reason. Where are they stored?

Does anyone have pictures of the stored aircraft? Thank you.

Here are a few more recent photos (March 2018) of Frames stored at Hamburg (XFW) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/digro/alb ... 8945711190

Wow, impressive. Making a big story more visual. This must be costing a lot of companies a lot a money. Everyone expected the PW1100 powered A321NEO's to impact the market this year everywhere based on their superior specifications. Now they are standing in the sun with all their great brand liveries. If they are targeted for replacing existing aircraft, probably airlines will try keep those flying for a little longer, charging Airbus the missed cost / maintenance / capacity benefits.

For Airbus they can try pass on all compensations to PW. But at the same time they are dependent on them and good partnership and working relations are vital. The PW1100 GTF specifications are a big part of the NEO program success over the last 8 years. You can't hurt a crucial supplier too much... Same difficult situation Boeing had with their supply chain a decade ago.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/digro/40897021551/in/album-72157688945711190/

Although PW engine issue is the biggest factor why the planes are stored, there are other ones (such as the Certification of the NEO models in China).

keesje · Fri May 11, 2018 8:09 pm

bspc wrote:

Although PW engine issue is the biggest factor why the planes are stored, there are other ones (such as the Certification of the NEO models in China).

What certification issues are there in China? It seems PW powered NEO's have been in operation in China for 18 months now.

lightsaber · Sat May 12, 2018 12:03 am

audidudi wrote:
Hawaiian Airlines third A321N was delivered today:

Airbus A321-271N 8092 N205HA Hawaiian Airlines delivery 11 May 2018 XFW-YYR-PAE ex D-AVZA

Great news! Seeing the delivery pace pick up is good to see.

Lightsaber

bspc · Sat May 12, 2018 2:07 pm

keesje wrote:
bspc wrote:

Although PW engine issue is the biggest factor why the planes are stored, there are other ones (such as the Certification of the NEO models in China).

What certification issues are there in China? It seems PW powered NEO's have been in operation in China for 18 months now.

Yes, but China has been extremely slow with full Certification. Here is an article about it: http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/12/news/co ... index.html

It wasn't until March 2018 when French President Macron visited China to push things forward until the NEO got fully certified by the CAAC (Chinas Aviation Regulatory Body).

F-WWKH · Sun May 13, 2018 7:52 pm

The next Airbus A320 NEO for Lufthansa painted in the new colos from factory side for the first time can be seen here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/cruise727 ... 8505973093
Also the first A320 NEO for S7 Airlines fully painted. Quite a number of aircraft parked here awaiting engines.

george77300 · Sun May 13, 2018 10:33 pm

F-WWKH wrote:
The next Airbus A320 NEO for Lufthansa painted in the new colos from factory side for the first time can be seen here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/cruise727 ... 8505973093
Also the first A320 NEO for S7 Airlines fully painted. Quite a number of aircraft parked here awaiting engines.

First A320neo for S7 Airlines??? They took delivery of their first nearly a year ago.

WholaLottaLove · Mon May 14, 2018 6:54 am

lightsaber wrote:
audidudi wrote:
Hawaiian Airlines third A321N was delivered today:

Airbus A321-271N 8092 N205HA Hawaiian Airlines delivery 11 May 2018 XFW-YYR-PAE ex D-AVZA

Great news! Seeing the delivery pace pick up is good to see.

Lightsaber

Are the Hawaiian Airlines A320/A321 equipped with P&W engines?

mjoelnir · Mon May 14, 2018 9:28 am

keesje wrote:
bspc wrote:

Although PW engine issue is the biggest factor why the planes are stored, there are other ones (such as the Certification of the NEO models in China).

What certification issues are there in China? It seems PW powered NEO's have been in operation in China for 18 months now.

The frames with CFM LEAP engines are waiting for certification.

bspc · Mon May 14, 2018 3:03 pm

WholaLottaLove wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
audidudi wrote:
Hawaiian Airlines third A321N was delivered today:

Airbus A321-271N 8092 N205HA Hawaiian Airlines delivery 11 May 2018 XFW-YYR-PAE ex D-AVZA

Great news! Seeing the delivery pace pick up is good to see.

Lightsaber

Are the Hawaiian Airlines A320/A321 equipped with P&W engines?

Yep

audidudi · Thu May 17, 2018 6:30 pm

The next A320N for S7 Airlines was delivered today:

Airbus A320-271N 8142 VQ-BDQ S7 Airlines delivery 17 May 2018 TLS-DME ex F-WWIK

audidudi · Sat May 19, 2018 6:23 pm

The next A321N for ANA All Nippon was delivered yesterday:

Airbus A321-272N 8095 JA133A ANA All Nippon delivery 18-20 May 2018 XFW-OVB-HND ex D-AVZB

The next A321N for Interjet was delivered today:

Airbus A321-251N 8023 XA-VMM Interjet delivery 19 May 2018 XFW-KEF-BGR-TLC ex D-AYAS

pdxswa · Tue May 22, 2018 5:57 am

Nice to see N927VA more to love here at PDX !

audidudi · Tue May 22, 2018 1:30 pm

The next A321N for Sichuan Airlines was delivered today:

Airbus A321-271N 7895 B-868 Sichuan Airlines delivery 22 May 2018 XFW-SVX ex D-AZAX

bspc · Tue May 22, 2018 11:46 pm

Apparently the A321LR has reached almost its 100 hour Flight Test target. I would assume we could see the first Delivery soon! - https://twitter.com/A320Archive/status/ ... 5483039744

ikolkyo · Wed May 23, 2018 12:31 am

bspc wrote:
Apparently the A321LR has reached almost its 100 hour Flight Test target. I would assume we could see the first Delivery soon! - https://twitter.com/A320Archive/status/ ... 5483039744

I'm assuming a few more hours will be required to get certification with the PW engine no?

mjoelnir · Wed May 23, 2018 1:08 am

ikolkyo wrote:
bspc wrote:
Apparently the A321LR has reached almost its 100 hour Flight Test target. I would assume we could see the first Delivery soon! - https://twitter.com/A320Archive/status/ ... 5483039744

I'm assuming a few more hours will be required to get certification with the PW engine no?

I do not expect Airbus needing to do the tests with the GTF. The increase to 242 MTOW on the A330 was tested only on the GE engines and later supplied at least with the T700 too.

audidudi · Wed May 23, 2018 3:58 pm

The next A320N for GoAir was delivered yesterday:

Airbus A320-271N 7871 VT-WGO GoAir delivery 22 May 2018 TLS-DEL ex F-WWDQ

The next A321N for Interjet was delivered today:

Airbus A321-251N 8008 XA-JIL Interjet delivery 23-24 May 2018 XFW-KEF-BGR-TLC ex D-AYAL

Update to my reply #314 above with corrected registration and delivery schedule:

Airbus A321-271N 7895 B-8682 Sichuan Airlines delivery 22-23 May 2018 XFW-SVX-TSN ex D-AZAX

pdxswa · Thu May 24, 2018 5:52 am

The other A321N for AS N926VA More to Love !

Flyglobal · Thu May 24, 2018 9:09 am

For the ones who know: Is there a sign that the no. of gliders at Airbus parking lots gets smaller?
Better: Are the latest PW modifications now successful and are they catching up with deliveries now?

Flyglobal

fsabo · Thu May 24, 2018 9:43 am

Flyglobal wrote:
For the ones who know: Is there a sign that the no. of gliders at Airbus parking lots gets smaller?
Better: Are the latest PW modifications now successful and are they catching up with deliveries now?

Flyglobal

Iirc, they have reverted back to the older hub seal design until they can properly fix and test the new hub seal design.

audidudi · Thu May 24, 2018 5:50 pm

The first A320N for Royal Brunei Airlines was delivered today:

Airbus A320-251N 8231 V8-RBA Royal Brunei Airlines delivery 24 May 2018 TLS-DWC ex F-WWBH

lightsaber · Thu May 24, 2018 6:25 pm

fsabo wrote:
Flyglobal wrote:
For the ones who know: Is there a sign that the no. of gliders at Airbus parking lots gets smaller?
Better: Are the latest PW modifications now successful and are they catching up with deliveries now?

Flyglobal

Iirc, they have reverted back to the older hub seal design until they can properly fix and test the new hub seal design.

Just to expand, most of the modifications worked. Many little fixes have been implimented that improve the engine reliability and durability. New seals and a more durable combustor are still required. But the day to day dispatch reliability is very much improved. Those are longer lead items, mostly due to costly testing.

Pratt isn't out if the woods, but they can see sunlight finally.

Someone83 · Fri May 25, 2018 1:32 pm

Second A321neo for Primera delivered

Airbus A321 -251N 8260 OY-PAC Primera Air delivery 25may17 XFW-TLL ex D-AVYL

And another A321neo for Alaska

Airbus A321 -253N 8246 N928VA Alaska Airlines delivery 25may18 XFW-BGR-MIA ex D-AVXY

A380MSN004 · Fri May 25, 2018 1:42 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Second A321neo for Primera delivered

Airbus A321 -251N 8260 OY-PAC Primera Air delivery 25may17 XFW-TLL ex D-AVYL

And another A321neo for Alaska

Airbus A321 -253N 8246 N928VA Alaska Airlines delivery 25may18 XFW-BGR-MIA ex D-AVXY

Does the Primera A321s are LR ?

A380MSN004 · Fri May 25, 2018 2:54 pm

Someone83 wrote:
A380MSN004 wrote:
Does the Primera A321s are LR ?

No, it isn't certified and have started delivery yet

They use their first on STN-EWR and STN-BOS. They don't need an LR for that

thanks

Someone83 · Fri May 25, 2018 2:55 pm

A380MSN004 wrote:
Does the Primera A321s are LR ?

No, it isn't certified and have started delivery yet

They use their first on STN-EWR and STN-BOS. They don't need an LR for that

rbrunner · Fri May 25, 2018 3:14 pm

Absolutely right. It's within the range of the "normal" A321N.

audidudi · Fri May 25, 2018 3:22 pm

A380MSN004 wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Second A321neo for Primera delivered

Airbus A321 -251N 8260 OY-PAC Primera Air delivery 25may17 XFW-TLL ex D-AVYL

Does the Primera A321s are LR ?

If you are asking whether the above aircraft is an LR, I would have to say no, as certification for the LR may not have been signed off yet!

lightsaber · Fri May 25, 2018 4:38 pm

mjoelnir wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
bspc wrote:
Apparently the A321LR has reached almost its 100 hour Flight Test target. I would assume we could see the first Delivery soon! - https://twitter.com/A320Archive/status/ ... 5483039744

I'm assuming a few more hours will be required to get certification with the PW engine no?

I do not expect Airbus needing to do the tests with the GTF. The increase to 242 MTOW on the A330 was tested only on the GE engines and later supplied at least with the T700 too.

Field performance with each engine is quite different. Pratt must prove 35k opperating. Sadly, a good chunk of the delta cert must be repeated. It is possible the new seal is required for 35k operations.

The A330 242 with Trents was flight tested in customer configuration. Perhaps with some seats removed for water kegs. Meh... Since the amount of testing required can be done in a week for the A330 (2 or 3 weeks for the pw1100G, my estimate), meh... Plus two weeks for paper approval (plenty of time to put the seats back in).

What matters is PW1100Gs are finally being delivered in quantity! : hyper:

Ghad... Pratt gave up their EIS advantage. :cry:

Lightsaber

audidudi · Sat May 26, 2018 11:11 am

Two more A320N deliveries yesterday:

The first A320N for Jazeera Aiways:

Airbus A320-251N 7936 9K-CAQ Jazeera Airways delivery 25 May 2018 TLS-AUH ex F-WWIQ

The next A320N for IndiGo Airlines:

Airbus A320-271N 8077 VT-IVJ IndiGo Airlines delivery 25 May 2018 TLS-DEL ex F-WWBB

audidudi · Sat May 26, 2018 11:16 am

The second A321N for China Southern was delivered today:

Airbus A321-271N 7544 B-8368 China Southern delivery 26 May 2018 XFW-TSE ex D-AVZZ

Spanishspotter · Sat May 26, 2018 11:47 am

Does anyone know when will Iberia's first A320neo be delivered?

Thanks in Advance

fsabo · Sat May 26, 2018 11:51 am

audidudi wrote:
The second A321N for China Southern was delivered today:

Airbus A321-271N 7544 B-8368 China Southern delivery 26 May 2018 XFW-TSE ex D-AVZZ

Finally GTF deliveries seem to have picked up.

audidudi · Sat May 26, 2018 2:06 pm

The next A320N for Hong Kong Express was delivered today:

Airbus A320-271N 7598 B-LCP Hong Kong Express delivery 26-27 May 2018 XFW-RKT-HKG ex D-AUBL

keesje · Sun May 27, 2018 11:35 am

bspc · Sun May 27, 2018 1:20 pm

Spanishspotter wrote:
Does anyone know when will Iberia's first A320neo be delivered?

Thanks in Advance

Its already been spotted in Delivery Registration. It will likely be this week, maybe as early as tomorrow.

bspc · Tue May 29, 2018 3:45 pm

bspc wrote:
Spanishspotter wrote:
Does anyone know when will Iberia's first A320neo be delivered?

Thanks in Advance

Its already been spotted in Delivery Registration. It will likely be this week, maybe as early as tomorrow.

To follow up, it has now been Delivered - https://a320archive.com/msn/8221

Jayafe · Tue May 29, 2018 6:30 pm

bspc wrote:
bspc wrote:
Spanishspotter wrote:
Does anyone know when will Iberia's first A320neo be delivered?

Thanks in Advance

Its already been spotted in Delivery Registration. It will likely be this week, maybe as early as tomorrow.

To follow up, it has now been Delivered - https://a320archive.com/msn/8221

Details of the flight:

Picture with the acrobat crew the plane has been named after:

It seems the 2nd neo for IB (MSN8256?) also has the mask, which probably means all will have it:

bspc · Tue May 29, 2018 8:06 pm

Yes that is MSN 8256 and I can easily imagine that all their NEOs will have the mask on. Its the Airbus way these days ha!

SVJ77W · Tue May 29, 2018 8:38 pm

Does anyone have any info on the first A321 for Indigo Airlines? Some one I know mention it was in final assembly. Is this true?

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george77300 · Tue May 29, 2018 8:39 pm

Jayafe wrote:
bspc wrote:
bspc wrote:

Its already been spotted in Delivery Registration. It will likely be this week, maybe as early as tomorrow.

To follow up, it has now been Delivered - https://a320archive.com/msn/8221

It seems the 2nd neo for IB (MSN8256?) also has the mask, which probably means all will have it:

bspc wrote:
Yes that is MSN 8256 and I can easily imagine that all their NEOs will have the mask on. Its the Airbus way these days ha!

The mask on the A320neo family is now a factory option by Airbus just like the A350 that any airline can select.

pugman211 · Tue May 29, 2018 9:24 pm

It hasn't started final assembly yet as far as I know. All Indigo frames I have seen are A320's so far. Do you have an MSN for It? I believe it is due this year however.

Pug

SVJ77W wrote:
Does anyone have any info on the first A321 for Indigo Airlines? Some one I know mention it was in final assembly. Is this true?

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SleeplessInZh · Tue May 29, 2018 11:07 pm

That mask is beautiful,but i don't like iberia's livery.ife on board?

audidudi · Tue May 29, 2018 11:46 pm

The next A321N for China Southern was delivered today:

Airbus A321-271N 7548 B-8369 China Southern delivery 29-30 May 2018 XFW-TSE-CAN ex D-AVXM

Adz787 · Wed May 30, 2018 8:29 am

https://www.flickr.com/photos/maxi-air/27522569587/

First a321neo for easyjet

f4f3a · Wed May 30, 2018 8:42 am

Cool are easyJet going to have the mask or is it an option ?

SVJ77W · Wed May 30, 2018 10:19 am

Thanks Pug! The guys I got the info had recieved the info from Indigo airlines staff which I am suspecting is probably just a random talk between them. They did not send any MSN # for it.

I will stay tuned here to await news of the Indigo A321 when it comes. Thanks.

pugman211 wrote:
It hasn't started final assembly yet as far as I know. All Indigo frames I have seen are A320's so far. Do you have an MSN for It? I believe it is due this year however.

Pug

SVJ77W wrote:
Does anyone have any info on the first A321 for Indigo Airlines? Some one I know mention it was in final assembly. Is this true?

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LoganTheBogan · Wed May 30, 2018 1:50 pm

When are the first NEOs for ANZ supposed to enter FAL or roll out?

audidudi · Wed May 30, 2018 2:08 pm

The next A320N for GoAir was delivered yesterday:

Airbus A320-271N 8146 VT-WGP GoAir delivery 29 May 2018 TLS-DEL ex F-WWIP

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