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Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:21 am

Next up to get delivered for DL will be MSN 190, and it will ferry to ATL on March 6th.
 
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:38 am

Hi,
MSN#186 HS-THL Thai #10, is climbing out of TLS as Flight TG8916. Flying home ?
 
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:41 am

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MSN#186 HS-THL Thai #10, is climbing out of TLS as Flight TG8916. Flying home ?


That would be MSN 185, and it is indeed flying home.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:20 pm

http://twitter.com/AlexInAir

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWlB782WAAAYgES.jpg:large

A snap of the cockpit from the delivery flight of the -1000 shows a few interesting figures- After 4 hrs and 35 minutes in the air the aircraft appears to have burned just 27t of fuel which would work out to ~5.8t per hour. The aircraft is not empty- they had many media and staff onboard along with catering. They also seem to be ferrying fuel from Airbus. The fuel burn is same or less than the -900 but with the potential of 40 more passengers. I am guessing once the word starts spreading among the airlines after a few months of service the orders will flow in.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:30 pm

And it appears that Airbus will upgrade the A350-1000 cockpit by introducing touch screen monitors in the coming months.

https://twitter.com/RAeSTimR/status/965965366097661958
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:52 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
And it appears that Airbus will upgrade the A350 cockpit by introducing touch screen monitors in the coming months.

https://twitter.com/RAeSTimR/status/965965366097661958


That seems like a nice new feature. :)
 
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:30 pm

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More images from the FAL


How come that photos like those are allowed to take, let alone they go public!!!??


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Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:42 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
And it appears that Airbus will upgrade the A350 cockpit by introducing touch screen monitors in the coming months.

https://twitter.com/RAeSTimR/status/965965366097661958


I thought that is available as option since day one. Maybe I misunderstood and now they are finally ready to install them if you pay the not-so-small price.
However I think the position of the screens (Outer OIS and Center) is not really touch-friendly since you have to lean forward. KCCU and touchpad seem to work fine
 
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:43 pm

MSN 193 BF #2 made its second flight today.

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Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:27 pm

Any word on when the VN Skyteam jet will come out of paint?

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Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:07 pm

MSN 197 VN #12 has just rolled out in SkyTeam livery.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:22 pm

redcap1962 wrote:
A330freak wrote:
More images from the FAL


How come that photos like those are allowed to take, let alone they go public!!!??
On all my visits to AB (guided tours in TLS & XFW) photography within the whole area was a strictly forbidden (not only inside the hangars...). We were asked to keep even smartphones in our pockets! Violation would have resulted in aborting the tour immediately, so we were told....

At least they let you keep your phone. Everett tours just keep ranting and raving about no bags, no phones, everything must be in lockers. Then when you go to the factory itself, they have the tour guide, someone monitoring cameras for phones, and a rover walking up and down making sure that you don't have your phone. If you do, they take it, make you open it up so they can make sure you didn't "steal" any of there secrets.
 
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:40 pm

They would be airbus supplied photos I reckon.
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:25 am

I watched the delivery ceremony for QR’s A350-1000 on youtube and was amazed with how elaborate it was. The lighting and projections used were fantastic and it was very impressive.

https://youtu.be/nzCkEO_UQWo

The video also shows the deep respect between Fabrice Bregier and Akbar Al-Baker; Bregier even highlighting QR’s famous high standards to the audience with a wry smile from Al-Baker. All in all a good way of rounding off Bregier’s last day at Airbus.

Do Boeing do the same thing for the delivery of new aircraft to customers?
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:05 am

hibtastic wrote:
I watched the delivery ceremony for QR’s A350-1000 on youtube and was amazed with how elaborate it was. The lighting and projections used were fantastic and it was very impressive.
https://youtu.be/nzCkEO_UQWo

Do Boeing do the same thing for the delivery of new aircraft to customers?


A remarkable show and video, the laser show on the airframe was truly amazing.

I thing it is common to lauch delivery, - and as far as I have seen also for first in a series of deliveries for new customer.

Boeing is able to set up quite a show as well:
https://www.airlinereporter.com/2017/10 ... -delivery/

https://www.airlinereporter.com/2015/11 ... ry-flight/



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Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:36 am

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MSN 201 (TG#12) has rolled out to the flightline today.


MSN 200 JJ #8 too has emerged from cabin/engine fit and has been parked nearby the A380 halls, presumably waiting for paint entry.

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Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:54 am

Regarding to painting, I also just saw on the production site that the first CX A35K entered the paint hangar, so we should not wait too long before we see it. Looking forward to it, it should be very nice.
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:22 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3B7kPh-mcg

The captain on the delivery flight confirms mtow up to 311t now(already mentioned in the planning document). I was wondering how the range increased 100nm to 8000nm.... I guess this is the answer.
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:02 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 201 (TG#12) has rolled out to the flightline today.


MSN 200 JJ #8 too has emerged from cabin/engine fit and has been parked nearby the A380 halls, presumably waiting for paint entry.

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Msn200 19/2/2018 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


What is the position vis a vis the earlier JJ A350s and QR. I thought these had been returned to JJ, but noticed that morning that one of them was operating the DOH-BRU route.

When is it planned that all will return to JJ; presumably this new acft (JJ #8) will be delivered to and operated by JJ itself?
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:21 pm

I believe hkcanadaexpat should be able to answer that question.
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:06 pm

MSN 190 (DL#8) has been moved to the delivery centre.

Positive news on the China front as many of the stored Chinese A350s have had their China regs applied this week. Step in the right direction re: certification and deliveries. 98/B-1069, 112/B-1070, 167/B-1086.

On the LATAM frames, 2 of 4 leases to QR were returned last year. A third one is being returned this month. The fourth is scheduled for a while still. All new deliveries are going to LATAM for operation by LATAM. At least that's the plan. Not as if everything is rosy in Brazil...
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:11 pm

Still no reg on MSN 60 though, one could notice the absence of the registration on the landing gear door last year.

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Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:13 pm

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Still no reg on MSN 60 though, one could notice the absence of the registration on the landing gear door last year.

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Hope this doesn't become an NTU again like Sri-Lankas previously. I can't imagine how unlucky MSN 52-55-60 are :cry:
 
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:14 pm

Notice in EASA certification that -1000 has yet to get all weather CAT3, although the engines are cleared to ETOPS 120 under EASA RR certification. An interesting point to note also is that the -900 has higher max operational altitude of 43100 as against 41450 for -1000 .....why the difference?
 
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:29 pm

BOEING777EK wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Still no reg on MSN 60 though, one could notice the absence of the registration on the landing gear door last year.

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SIchuan A350-941 msn 060 by dn280tls, on Flickr
Hope this doesn't become an NTU again like Sri-Lankas previously. I can't imagine how unlucky MSN 52-55-60 are :cry:



Still waiting on certification in China I think.
 
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:11 pm

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Notice in EASA certification that -1000 has yet to get all weather CAT3, although the engines are cleared to ETOPS 120 under EASA RR certification. An interesting point to note also is that the -900 has higher max operational altitude of 43100 as against 41450 for -1000 .....why the difference?

Different weight, different aerodynamic, different engines. Should be enough !
 
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:35 pm

Interesting trade off as I assume higher altitude reduces fuel burn and less congested FL? I believe most WB aircraft have the -900 ceiling.
 
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Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:28 pm

It looks like MSN98 Beijing Capital Airlines has made it to the Delivery Centre https://www.flightradar24.com/FWZFR/108bcbb9

FR24 shows it as having flown twice but the tracking spreadsheet we all use seems to have missed these somehow.

I could be completely wrong though.
 
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Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:01 pm

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MSN 190 (DL#8) has been moved to the delivery centre.

Positive news on the China front as many of the stored Chinese A350s have had their China regs applied this week. Step in the right direction re: certification and deliveries. 98/B-1069, 112/B-1070, 167/B-1086.

On the LATAM frames, 2 of 4 leases to QR were returned last year. A third one is being returned this month. The fourth is scheduled for a while still. All new deliveries are going to LATAM for operation by LATAM. At least that's the plan. Not as if everything is rosy in Brazil...

Yep. PR-XTA through E are with LATAM. F and G are still with QR as A7-AMA and B AFAIK.
 
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Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:05 pm

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It looks like MSN98 Beijing Capital Airlines has made it to the Delivery Centre https://www.flightradar24.com/FWZFR/108bcbb9

FR24 shows it as having flown twice but the tracking spreadsheet we all use seems to have missed these somehow.

I could be completely wrong though.


I don't think is real - even if FR24 is showing the frame currently outside the delivery centre.
 
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Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:41 pm

But MSN195 just completed its RTO.
 
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Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:17 am

MSN 198 OZ #5 is heading to XFW for paint: https://fr24.com/AIB02FF/108e5887
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Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:27 am

Meanwhile MSN190 DL#8 is on a CAF https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB03GL/108e4ee6
 
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Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:32 am

MSN 98 JD #1 is having an engine run in the engine test area. First movement on its own power since storage.

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Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:40 am

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MSN 198 OZ #5 is heading to XFW for paint: https://fr24.com/AIB02FF/108e5887


Than we should expect MSN196 to soon come back from XFW.
 
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MSN197, Vietnam's 12th and the 1st A350 in Skyteam colours
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Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:26 pm

Very nice looking A359 for Vietnam! Wasn't there supposed to be a QR in OneWorld livery too?
 
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Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:38 pm

HX #4 should be flying home today.

Airbus A350 -941 187 B-LGD Hong Kong Airlines delivery 2feb18 TLS-HKG ex F-WWAW
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Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:29 pm

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HX #4 should be flying home today.


Yes, according to FR24 she left TLS at 22:00 local time and is now over central Europe: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-lgd
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MSN197, Vietnam's 12th and the 1st A350 in Skyteam colours
Photocredit to A380_TLS_A350 on Flickr
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The most beautiful A350 yet, of course I'm a sucker for that silver. I can't wait to see this one airborne.

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Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:26 am

MSN 216, SQ's first ULR, has emerged from final assembly.

https://twitter.com/AirbusPRESS/status/ ... 5059853312
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:31 am

Looks like it has the larger winglets.
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:41 am

kaitak wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 201 (TG#12) has rolled out to the flightline today.


MSN 200 JJ #8 too has emerged from cabin/engine fit and has been parked nearby the A380 halls, presumably waiting for paint entry.

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Msn200 19/2/2018 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


What is the position vis a vis the earlier JJ A350s and QR. I thought these had been returned to JJ, but noticed that morning that one of them was operating the DOH-BRU route.

When is it planned that all will return to JJ; presumably this new acft (JJ #8) will be delivered to and operated by JJ itself?


Both A7-AMA and A7-AMB are returning to JJ soon. The contract expired in Feb 18th, however QR was able to extend for more 6 months or a year (or the time they need it).
JJ plans are to re-introduce A359 into CDG, MCO, and MAD, and according to recent schedule, BCN is due to receive the A359 as well.
It's now operating GRU-JFK (JJ8080/81 - 8102/8103) with the 5 A359 available. 8102/8103 rotates only during high season, and to operate all this routes proposed, both planes leased gotta go back to JJ plus the 2 already assembled (MSN200 due to april and MSN226 due to October).
So, Yes, all LATAM frames are gonna be operated for JJ.
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:44 am

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Looks like it has the larger winglets.


AFAIK IB is the one to reveive the first A359 with the new winglets. I'm not sure about ULR version, if you say so...
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Looks like it has the larger winglets.


AFAIK IB is the one to reveive the first A359 with the new winglets. I'm not sure about ULR version, if you say so...


Agreed but I suspect that IB will be the first in service with the larger winglets. The additional testing required for the ULR will mean despite being a lower MSN it will actually get delivered later.
 
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The additional testing required for the ULR will mean despite being a lower MSN it will actually get delivered later.


Do we know what the flight test schedule for the A359ULR is yet?

I'd assume it would be relatively short in duration to deal with the relatively small changes such as weights and software?
 
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The additional testing required for the ULR will mean despite being a lower MSN it will actually get delivered later.


Do we know what the flight test schedule for the A359ULR is yet?

I'd assume it would be relatively short in duration to deal with the relatively small changes such as weights and software?

Karel's link to the presser ( http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... ebut-.html ) gives a bit more clarity but not a schedule:

The aircraft will then embark on a short flight test programme to certify the changes over the standard A350-900 that will bring the additional range capability. These include a modified fuel system that increases fuel carrying capacity by 24,000 litres, without the need for additional fuel tanks. The test phase will also measure enhanced performance derived from aerodynamic improvements, including extended winglets.

So the testing is mostly about the modified fuel system and modified aerodynamics. It confirms the presence of extended winglets too.
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Revelation wrote:


Many thanks :checkmark:
 
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Richard28 wrote:
StTim wrote:
The additional testing required for the ULR will mean despite being a lower MSN it will actually get delivered later.


Do we know what the flight test schedule for the A359ULR is yet?

I'd assume it would be relatively short in duration to deal with the relatively small changes such as weights and software?

Karel's link to the presser ( http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... ebut-.html ) gives a bit more clarity but not a schedule:

The aircraft will then embark on a short flight test programme to certify the changes over the standard A350-900 that will bring the additional range capability. These include a modified fuel system that increases fuel carrying capacity by 24,000 litres, without the need for additional fuel tanks. The test phase will also measure enhanced performance derived from aerodynamic improvements, including extended winglets.

So the testing is mostly about the modified fuel system and modified aerodynamics. It confirms the presence of extended winglets too.


I was going from my bible https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list which has the first ULR not being delivered until October. The second ULR MSN220 is actually on this list slated to be delivered earlier in August. From that I presume some test instrumentation will need to be removed from MSN216 which did spend a lot of time in the preFAL area.

The first IB frame is MSN219 which is slated to be delivered in May.

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