Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:11 pm

MSN 52 (3U#2) out on another CAF #AIB07FA
MSN 141 (QR#34) out on another test flight #AIB03NK
MSN 225 (CX#27) out on another test flight #AIB03NL
MSN 232 (SQ#25 - ULR) active at the delivery centre
MSN 247 (CA#6) - new RTO - first flight re-scheduled to Monday

hkcanadaexpat · Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:57 am

MSN 232 (SQ#25 - ULR) first CAF this morning #AIB03NR

UA947 · Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:31 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Additionally, as per Airbus' September O&D report, MSN 226 (HU#2) was contractually delivered to LATAM on 9/28 and surprisingly enough was delivery #200. As of 9/30, operatorship had yet to be transferred to Hainan Airlines. We ended September with 61 for 2018, including 10 for the month of September. As of this stage last year, we sat at 50 deliveries.

There is no way to tell exactly which #200 was. There were five A350's delivered on the 28th and in that case Airbus simply puts them in alphabetical order on their monthly spreadsheet.

hotelbravo · Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:00 pm

Do we know yet if the A350–1000 is going to get the longer winglets and new wing twist? MSN225 still has the first gen winglets... What is the next 35K to come off the line?

Slug71 · Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:25 pm

hotelbravo wrote:
Do we know yet if the A350–1000 is going to get the longer winglets and new wing twist? MSN225 still has the first gen winglets... What is the next 35K to come off the line?

The wing twist came from the -1000. No word on whether or not it will get the taller winglets.

george77300 · Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:52 am

Arion640 wrote:
Any ideas how far the first BA A350 has got?

A long way off. First isn’t due until Q3 2019. It won’t start for a long time.

Geoff1947 · Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:21 am

george77300 wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
Any ideas how far the first BA A350 has got?

A long way off. First isn’t due until Q3 2019. It won’t start for a long time.

MSN326, should enter final assembly around February or March 2019.

Geoff

hkcanadaexpat · Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:16 pm

MSN 274 (VS#1) has rolled out of FAL - white tail

Geoff1947 · Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:11 am

What news on MSN231 ? Has it been stored away from the flightline ?

Geoff

hotelbravo · Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:45 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 274 (VS#1) has rolled out of FAL - white tail

Any photos? Does it have the new winglets or the original ones?

audidudi · Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:29 pm

The next A350 for China Airlines was delivered today. #6 in October...#67 in 2018...#209 total.

Airbus A350 -941 239 B-18918 China Airlines delivery 22 Oct 2018 TLS-TPE, Blue Carbon A350 XWB colours, ex F-WZFU

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:40 pm

MSN 207 (QR#33) first CAF #AIB03NJ
MSN 225 (CX#27) out on another test flight #AIB03NL
MSN 239 (CI#14) departing on its delivery flight as CI1710. #209. #67 of 2018. #6 in October. #14 and final delivery to CI.
MSN 247 (CA#6) first test flight #AIB01FW - unpainted
MSN 250 (JJ#9) out on another test flight #AIB02FX
MSN 252 (CX#29) active on the flightline

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:38 pm

10/23 - MSN 55 (3U#3) has returned to the delivery centre
10/23 - MSN 233 (CX#28) initial engine run

10/24 - MSN 207 (QR#33) second CAF #AIB04NJ
10/24 - MSN 225 (CX#27) active at the delivery centre
10/24 - MSN 231 (CA#5) new engine run
10/24 - MSN 233 (CX#28) RTO - first flight scheduled for Thursday
10/24 - MSN 280 (PR#5) rolled out of FAL

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:02 am

MSN 225 (CX#27) on its first CAF #AIB05NL
MSN 232 (SQ#25 - ULR) sporting its final reg (9V-SGD) - delivery imminent

audidudi · Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:54 pm

The fourth A350-900ULR for Singapore Airlines was delivered today. #7 in October...#68 in 2018...#210 total.

Airbus A350-941ULR 232 9V-SGD Singapore Airlines delivery 25 Oct 2018 TLS-SIN ex F-WZNR

LewisNEO · Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:48 pm

audidudi wrote:
The fourth A350-900ULR for Singapore Airlines was delivered today. #7 in October...#68 in 2018...#210 total.

Airbus A350-941ULR 232 9V-SGD Singapore Airlines delivery 25 Oct 2018 TLS-SIN ex F-WZNR

So Airbus is on par with deliveries of last september 2017 now, also #7. Only 9 to go between now and december 31 to achieve 77 total deliveries of 2017. Looks fine for me,. last year they had a real rally in november and december.

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:57 pm

MSN 52 (3U#2) sporting its final reg (B-304U) - delivery flight imminent (already contractually delivered)
MSN 232 (SQ#25 - ULR) on its delivery flight as SQ8895. #210. #68 of 2018. #7 in October
MSN 233 (CX#28) first flight #AIB01HF
MSN 252 (CX#29) initial engine run

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:31 am

MSN 207 (QR#33) sporting its final reg (A7-AMG) - delivery imminent
MSN 248 (MU#1) initial engine run this morning

BWIAirport · Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:17 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 207 (QR#33) sporting its final reg (A7-AMG) - delivery imminent
MSN 248 (MU#1) initial engine run this morning

That'll be such an unfortunate waste of an A350 fuselage having the MU scheme painted on it

Breathe · Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:56 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 52 (3U#2) sporting its final reg (B-304U) - delivery flight imminent (already contractually delivered)

Gosh! Any idea how long as that bird and MSN 55 been gathering dust at TLL?

StTim · Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:07 pm

Contractually delivered in December 2016

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:02 pm

MSN 52 (3U#2) on delivery flight as 3U310 - contractually delivered in 2016
MSN 207 (QR#33) on its delivery flight as QR3350. #211. #69 of 2018. #8 in October
MSN 245 (HU#4) new engine run
MSN 252 (CX#29) RTO - first flight scheduled for Monday

Kikko19 · Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:33 pm

Breathe wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 52 (3U#2) sporting its final reg (B-304U) - delivery flight imminent (already contractually delivered)

Gosh! Any idea how long as that bird and MSN 55 been gathering dust at TLL?

TLL?

817Dreamliiner · Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:01 pm

First China Eastern A350-900 in full livery MSN248

F-WWIW Airbus A350 China Eastern by @Eurospot, on Flickr

Sayan777 · Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:34 pm

Is MSN 290 in FAL.If this goes in FAL a lot of rumors will be squashed that Etihad is cancelling the A350. If they had to cancel they would have done it way earlier.

Breathe · Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:54 pm

StTim wrote:
Contractually delivered in December 2016

Almost 2 years, crikey! I bet the lessor must have lost a bit of revenue from it sitting there. At least this one has flown to its "real" home now.

Slug71 · Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:12 pm

Sayan777 wrote:
Is MSN 290 in FAL.If this goes in FAL a lot of rumors will be squashed that Etihad is cancelling the A350. If they had to cancel they would have done it way earlier.

Doesn't appear to be. Doesnt look like parts have started arriving yet either. According to the Production List anyway.

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:34 am

MSN 283 (HX#11) is the latest frame to exit FAL

sibibom · Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:14 am

817Dreamliiner wrote:
First China Eastern A350-900 in full livery MSN248

F-WWIW Airbus A350 China Eastern by @Eurospot, on Flickr

I think they forgot to paint this aircraft, oh wait its China Eastern..... :rotfl:

And can't wait to see what happens to Eithad, should know it by next month

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:45 pm

MSN 141 (QR#34) out on another test flight #AIB04NK
MSN 161 (QR#35) active on the flightline
MSN 225 (CX#27) sporting its final reg B-LXE - delivery this week
MSN 238 (SQ#27) initial engine run
MSN 246 (HX#6) active at the delivery centre
MSN 248 (MU#1) RTO - first flight scheduled for Tuesday
MSN 252 (CX#29) first test flight #AIB01GL
MSN 255 (LH#12) rolled out of the paint hangar and is back on the flightline

patschinger · Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:23 am

Shortly SQ will get his first "Regional" Frame. Do we have any further technical spec. It should have a MTOW from 250t, right ? Any updates about the technical specs for the JL "942" Frames ?

Eyad89 · Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:32 am

patschinger wrote:
Shortly SQ will get his first "Regional" Frame. Do we have any further technical spec. It should have a MTOW from 250t, right ? Any updates about the technical specs for the JL "942" Frames ?

I don't understand why SQ is going for the regional A359 with a lower MTOW while having a bunch of 78X on order. I thought it would make for an efficient fleet if the A359 specializes in the longer missions while 78X stays regional.

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:47 am

patschinger wrote:
Shortly SQ will get his first "Regional" Frame. Do we have any further technical spec. It should have a MTOW from 250t, right ? Any updates about the technical specs for the JL "942" Frames ?

MSN 263 (SQ#30 - 2nd Regional) is active on the flightline this morning - unpainted. MSN 254 (SQ#29 - 1st Regional) has been painted and currently having its engines installed.

AECM · Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:13 am

Eyad89 wrote:
patschinger wrote:
Shortly SQ will get his first "Regional" Frame. Do we have any further technical spec. It should have a MTOW from 250t, right ? Any updates about the technical specs for the JL "942" Frames ?

I don't understand why SQ is going for the regional A359 with a lower MTOW while having a bunch of 78X on order. I thought it would make for an efficient fleet if the A359 specializes in the longer missions while 78X stays regional.

SQ in the A359R is going for a configuration of 40C and 263Y, while the B78X has 36C and 301Y, so they will probably use it on more premium routes. The A359R is a normal A359 with less thrust and reduced MTOW of 250ton (so it should have less maintenance costs) but the big thing for me is that the A359R can be converted to a normal A359 with MTOW of 268ton by "paperwork".

qf789 · Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:14 pm

First flight for MSN248 #1MU today

https://twitter.com/CAlloing/status/1057241573396754432

Asiaflyer · Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:50 pm

AECM wrote:
Eyad89 wrote:
patschinger wrote:
Shortly SQ will get his first "Regional" Frame. Do we have any further technical spec. It should have a MTOW from 250t, right ? Any updates about the technical specs for the JL "942" Frames ?

I don't understand why SQ is going for the regional A359 with a lower MTOW while having a bunch of 78X on order. I thought it would make for an efficient fleet if the A359 specializes in the longer missions while 78X stays regional.

SQ in the A359R is going for a configuration of 40C and 263Y, while the B78X has 36C and 301Y, so they will probably use it on more premium routes. The A359R is a normal A359 with less thrust and reduced MTOW of 250ton (so it should have less maintenance costs) but the big thing for me is that the A359R can be converted to a normal A359 with MTOW of 268ton by "paperwork".

Does anyone know if the A359R will have its own registration serie like SQ gave the A359ULR?

UA947 · Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:34 pm

Asiaflyer wrote:
Does anyone know if the A359R will have its own registration serie like SQ gave the A359ULR?

As far as I know they will be registered 9V-SHx

trex8 · Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:55 pm

Airbus have 210 and 235 k regional weight variants on their acaps . If SQ are going to use them at 250k why don't they just do what CX do and operate them At 270 or 240k . I think those are the numbers Zeke have mentioned before. Does the lower capital cost of purchasing at 250k that different to certifying at 270 k ? Wouldn't a 210 or 235k lower one make it even more worthwhile. Does Singapore CAA not allow this flexible mtow operation like HK CAA? Going lower would give you even greater savings would it not?

smartplane · Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:35 pm

AECM wrote:
The A359R is a normal A359 with less thrust and reduced MTOW of 250ton (so it should have less maintenance costs) but the big thing for me is that the A359R can be converted to a normal A359 with MTOW of 268ton by "paperwork".

Can be converted to a normal A359, with front end payment to RR, and higher monthly maintenance payments thereafter. Presumably an R fleet also provides RR somewhere to hang older engines with performance decay.

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:05 pm

MSN 225 (CX#27) departing on its delivery flight as CX3510. #212. #70 of 2018. #9 (and final) for October
MSN 226 (HU#2 - delivered) maintenance engine run and taxi test
MSN 245 (HU#4) out on second test flight #AIB02NX
MSN 248 (MU#1) initial test flight #AIB01IW
MSN 255 (LH#12) new engine run (post painting)

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:03 pm

MSN 141 (QR#34) short test flight #AIB05NK
MSN 245 (HU#4) new engine run
MSN 251 (HX#7) active at the delivery centre

lightsaber · Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:50 pm

I didn't see in the last few pages, the A350 engine shortfall has been quantified:
http://m.aviationweek.com/commercial-av ... ine-delays

That is 15 Txwb short. Or 6 +/- 1 fewer A350 deliveries. Meh.. not a big deal.

Wildlander · Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:27 pm

I beg to differ. Yet more "disappointed" airline customers, some/all with a need to revise fleet planning, maybe extend leases, delay resales or pay for extra maintenance. For Airbus, lower EOY earnings, increased WIP expenses, out-of-sequence work hassles and a sales force that has to spend yet more of its energy in placating customers waiting for A320NEO, A330NEO and now A350 XWB deliveries. To be hoped that Airbus has a contractual right to appropriate financial compensation from RR.

LewisNEO · Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:31 pm

Wildlander wrote:
I beg to differ. Yet more "disappointed" airline customers, some/all with a need to revise fleet planning, maybe extend leases, delay resales or pay for extra maintenance. For Airbus, lower EOY earnings, increased WIP expenses, out-of-sequence work hassles and a sales force that has to spend yet more of its energy in placating customers waiting for A320NEO, A330NEO and now A350 XWB deliveries. To be hoped that Airbus has a contractual right to appropriate financial compensation from RR.

I have to agree and it is worrisome the Rolls engines are affecting so many different types like the 787, A330N and now also the A350... That is no good. Airbus & Boeing are producing frames but they won't fly without engines.

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:30 pm

MSN 284 (CA#8) is the latest to roll out of FAL

Sayan777 · Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:31 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 284 (CA#8) is the latest to roll out of FAL

Which is the latest MSN to be rolled into FAL.

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:15 pm

MSN 238 (SQ#27) RTO this morning - first flight scheduled for Monday

Geoff1947 · Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:59 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 238 (SQ#27) RTO this morning - first flight scheduled for Monday

Thanks, thought everyone at TLS was on leave.

Geoff

UAEflyer · Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:46 pm

Did Oman Air confirm their A350 order ?

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:23 pm

MSN 55 (3U#3) out on another test flight #AIB08FI
MSN 233 (CX#28) out on a second test flight #AIB02HF
MSN 238 (SQ#27) first flight #AIB01GP
MSN 255 (LH#12) test flight post painting #AIB02GA

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