Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:07 pm

MSN 221 (PR#1) sporting its final regs (RP-C3501). Contractual delivery may happen this week
MSN 226 (GS#1) online on the flightline this evening
MSN 231 (CA#3) RTO complete. First flight scheduled for Friday

cuban8 · Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:54 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 221 (PR#1) sporting its final regs (RP-C3501). Contractual delivery may happen this week
MSN 226 (GS#1) online on the flightline this evening
MSN 231 (CA#3) RTO complete. First flight scheduled for Friday

Looking forward to see the first Tanjin Airlines A350!! Still mentioned as JJ#9 on the production/delivery site: https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

With upcoming deliveries, should we expect a total of 40 A350’s delivered for the half year and hopefully more than 80 A350’s for the full year? Can someone please remind me the Airbus 2018 A350 delivery target?

qf789 · Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:52 am

Delivery for first A350 for PR will be on 14 July departing TLS at 1700 as PR5003, arriving in MNL at 1200 on 15 July

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 9851709441

kaukalo · Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:05 am

Potato quality but is this china airlines special livery a350?
https://twitter.com/mba340/status/1012578890823454720

hkcanadaexpat · Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:37 am

MSN 52 (3U#2) out of long-term storage, had Sichuan Airlines decals applied & completed RTO this afternoon
MSN 102 (QR#27) out on another CAF early this morning #AIB07FY
MSN 102 (QR#27) sporting its final regs (A7-ANB) this evening
MSN 178 (CA#4) RTO this morning. First flight scheduled for Monday
MSN 218 (OZ#6) sporting its final regs (HL8308) this afternoon
MSN 227 (IB#2) initial engine run this morning
MSN 231 (CA#3) first flight this morning #AIB01NO

audidudi · Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:49 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 178 (CA#4) RTO this morning. First flight scheduled for Monday

MSN 178 is actually CA#2, with 167 being #1, 217 being #3 and 231 being #4.

hkcanadaexpat · Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:06 am

audidudi wrote:
MSN 178 is actually CA#2, with 167 being #1, 217 being #3 and 231 being #4.

You don't know that. Pure speculation from your part. They could be delivered in any order.

hkcanadaexpat · Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:12 am

MSN 102 (QR#27) has been delivered and about to depart for DOH. #39 in 2018. #7 in June.

StTim · Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:17 am

The spreadsheet will have it as the 8th in June - based on delivery flight dates.

817Dreamliiner · Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:03 am

kaukalo wrote:
Potato quality but is this china airlines special livery a350?
https://twitter.com/mba340/status/1012578890823454720

Better version:

Msn239 F-WZFU 30/6/2018 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

trex8 · Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:31 pm

817Dreamliiner wrote:
kaukalo wrote:
Potato quality but is this china airlines special livery a350?
https://twitter.com/mba340/status/1012578890823454720

Better version:

Msn239 F-WZFU 30/6/2018 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

Where are they going to write China Airlines, between door 1 and 2?. On the 747 it was in much smaller letters and on the rear just in front of the tail than on the regular planes, on the 777 it wasnt an issue as the Boeing was below the windows and between door 1 and 2.

hkcanadaexpat · Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:36 am

MSN 213 (MH#6) is online at the delivery centre early this morning

kaichinshih · Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:50 pm

trex8 wrote:
817Dreamliiner wrote:
kaukalo wrote:
Potato quality but is this china airlines special livery a350?
https://twitter.com/mba340/status/1012578890823454720

Better version:

Msn239 F-WZFU 30/6/2018 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

Where are they going to write China Airlines, between door 1 and 2?. On the 747 it was in much smaller letters and on the rear just in front of the tail than on the regular planes, on the 777 it wasnt an issue as the Boeing was below the windows and between door 1 and 2.

Between doors 1 and 2. Company name painted and currently covered up.

audidudi · Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:02 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
audidudi wrote:
MSN 178 is actually CA#2, with 167 being #1, 217 being #3 and 231 being #4.

You don't know that. Pure speculation from your part. They could be delivered in any order.

What a strange coincidence that CA's production order #s 1-4 have now mysteriously disappeared from the spreadsheet! Yet CA's production order #s 5-10 are still listed. It doesn't surprise me however!

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:55 pm

MSN 52 (3U#2) out on another test flight (first in over a year) #AIB04FA
MSN 178 (CA#3) first flight this afternoon #AIB01GZ
MSN 188 (CX#24) out on another test flight #AIB04GS

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:05 am

MSN 213 (MH#6) about to depart on its first CAF #AIB04GT
MSN 220 (SQ#22) initial engine run this morning

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:43 pm

MSN 188 (CX#24) out on another test flight #AIB05GS
MSN 218 (OZ#6) departing on its delivery flight. #40 in 2018. #1 in July (figures may change if MSN 218/221 were contractually delivered in June)

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:46 am

MSN 163 (QR#29) rolled out to the flightline overnight

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:02 pm

MSN 220 (SQ#22) completed its RTO this afternoon. First flight scheduled for Thursday.

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:13 pm

MSN 126 (QR#28) moved to the delivery centre this morning
MSN 220 (SQ#22) inaugural flight #AIB01FZ
MSN 228 (PR#2) initial engine run
MSN 231 (CA#2) out on a second test flight #AIB02NO

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:31 pm

MSN 221 (PR#1) was contractually delivered on 28/6. So we ended June with 40 deliveries for 2018 (vs. 30 @ 30 June 2017).

Other changes to the order book @ 30/6:
> Air France orders continue to be moved around (3 AF + 25 AFKLM --> 21 AF + 7 KLM)
> Turkish Airlines order for 25 A359s makes it onto the books
> New order for 10 A359s Undisclosed

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:36 pm

MSN 52 (3U#2) out on another test flight #AIB05FA
MSN 228 (PR#2) RTO completed this afternoon. First flight scheduled for Monday

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:29 pm

We're moving ever much closer to China's first A350 delivery... MSN 167 (CA#1) has been spotted at the delivery centre awaiting the Air China team to take thru its strives. I've heard snippets of a delivery around 7/19.

Other movements this week:
MSN 110 (QR#30) rolled out of the paint hangar
MSN 248 (MU#1) currently undergoing re-work at the A380 site
MSN 251 (HX#7) and MSN 252 (CX#29) both rolled out of FAL

StTim · Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:53 pm

Thanks hkcanadaexpat - please continue with these informative updates.

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:10 pm

MSN 126 (QR#28) first CAF #AIB04GU
MSN 178 (CA#4) change of engine and new engine run
MSN 188 (CX#24) active at the delivery centre today

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:56 pm

MSN 188 (CX#24) first CAF #AIB06GS
MSN 217 (CA#3) out on another test flight #AIB04NU

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:20 am

MSN 213 (MH#6) was seen sporting its final regs (9M-MAG) on Tuesday evening

itisi · Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:33 am

CX Takeover B-LXC on the 19th.

Geoff1947 · Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:42 am

Seems to be a bit of a shortage of frames rolling out that can be delivered quickly at present. This might be convenient for Airbus as it coincides with the main holiday season in TLS. Hopefully by late August they will be delivering the ULRs for SQ and a load of frames for CA and the other mainland China carriers.

Geoff

mjoelnir · Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:53 am

Geoff1947 wrote:
Seems to be a bit of a shortage of frames rolling out that can be delivered quickly at present. This might be convenient for Airbus as it coincides with the main holiday season in TLS. Hopefully by late August they will be delivering the ULRs for SQ and a load of frames for CA and the other mainland China carriers.

Geoff

5 frames are at the delivery center. 4 of them contenders to be delivered in the next Days. MSN126 QR, MSN188 CX, MSN213 MH and MSN221 PR. The fifth is a frame for Air China, waiting for the certification. 3 more frames are in flight testing, excluding the frames for China and test frames, and 5 frames are waiting for the first flight, again excluding test frames and birds destined for China. I assume July will see 6 deliveries.
When the China certification comes, we will see 9 to 10 extra frames delivered in a short time span.

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:25 am

MSN 126 (QR#28) out on another CAF #AIB05GU
MSN 169 (CX#25) active on the flightline
MSN 178 (CA#4) out on an another test flight #AIB02GZ
MSN 220 (SQ#22) out on another test flight #AIB02FZ
MSN 228 (PR#2) first test flight #AIB01NZ

audidudi · Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:59 pm

The last A350 for Malaysia Airlines was delivered today:

Airbus A350-941 213 9M-MAG Malaysia Airlines delivery 12 July 2018 TLS-KUL “Negaraku” cs ex F-WZGT

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:22 pm

MSN 126 (QR#28) sporting its final regs (A7-ALX). delivery imminent
MSN 178 (CA#4) change of engines and new engine run
MSN 188 (CX#24) out on another CAF #AIB07GS
MSN 213 (MH#6) flying home on its delivery flight #MH5025. #42 of 2018. #2 in July
MSN 231 (CA#2) out on another test flight #AIB03NO

StTim · Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:49 pm

Engine replacement seems quite common. Are initial flights often on Airbus engines and then swapped to customer engines later?

audidudi · Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:17 pm

The next A350 for Qatar Airways was delivered today. #3 for July...#43 for 2018.

Airbus A350-941 126 A7-ALX Qatar Airways delivery 13 July 2018 TLS-DOH ex F-WZGU

pabloeing · Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:24 pm

VS put in Facebook the first image of his new A350-1000

audidudi · Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:49 pm

The first A350 for Philippines Airlines was delivered today. #4 for July...#44 for 2018.

Airbus A350-941 221 RP-C3501 Philippines Airlines delivery 14 July 2018 TLS-MNL ex F-WZNA

Egerton · Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:16 pm

StTim wrote:
Engine replacement seems quite common. Are initial flights often on Airbus engines and then swapped to customer engines later?

Sounds quite possible. When checking flight test performance, the Airbus owned engines will have a known performance? Gives RR the opportunity to deliver the very latest spec on the new engines? Saves Airbus paying for the new engines until last possible moment? Customer get latest spec, lowest possible hours run, if any problems later only one firm to negotiate with?

Aircellist · Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:21 pm

When is delivery #200 slated, if it is known? And who should be the "winner"?

Planesmart · Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:34 pm

StTim wrote:
Engine replacement seems quite common. Are initial flights often on Airbus engines and then swapped to customer engines later?

Not common.

How many times, and with which airlines this year?

Only logic for using Airbus-owned engines (which are usually engine OEM-owned engines), would be if there are supply problems, or finance problems with the customer (attaching customer engines is a milestone, and triggers a part payment), or aircraft delivery is to be delayed (and will be stored engine-less), or the engine OEM wants to perform tests (customer approval required, and CA wouldn't be the easiest to obtain).

Delivery delay would seem to be the most likely.

Devilfish · Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:10 pm

audidudi wrote:
The first A350 for Philippines Airlines was delivered today. #4 for July...#44 for 2018.

Merci beaucoup! ----- Pictures from the database..... :camera:

.....

Geoff1947 · Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:28 am

Looking at this excellent source

http://www.a350-production.com/production-list

After MSN 221, recently delivered, their are few frames due out of assembly that can go straight to the flightline and on to delivery. I see

227 for IB
228 for PR
236 for PR
239 for CI
243 for PR
255 for LH

Airbus will be able to sustain deliveries using their inventory of earlier built frames for QR and CX and also hopefully start delivering the mainland China frames and the ULRs.

Geoff

ap305 · Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:39 am

https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/defaul ... -07-09.pdf

Etops for the -1000 is now beyond 180min

All weather capability still missing on the tcds

c933103 · Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:43 am

ap305 wrote:
https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/TCDS_EASA%20_A_151_Airbus350_Iss14_2018-07-09.pdf

Etops for the -1000 is now beyond 180min

All weather capability still missing on the tcds

Specifically - 420 minutes? Is that another longest record?

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:23 pm

MSN 126 (QR#28) delivery flight [13/7]. #43 in 2018. #3 in July
MSN 163 (QR#29) initial engine run [13/7]
MSN 188 (CX#24) additional CAF [13/7]
MSN 221 (PR#1) delivery flight [14/7]. Contractually delivered in June
MSN 226 (GS#1) initial engine run [13/7]
MSN 227 (IB#2) RTO [13/7]
MSN 235 (HX#5) active on the flightline [13/7]

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:03 am

MSN 55 (3U#3) back on the flightline after long-term storage [17/7]
MSN 110 (QR#30) active on the flightline [17/7]
MSN 178 (CA#4) out on another test flight #AIB03GZ [16/7]
MSN 188 (CX#24) sporting its final regs (B-LXC). Delivery imminent [17/7]
MSN 226 (PR#2) RTO [16/7]
MSN 230 (SQ#23/24) active on the flightline [17/7]

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:05 pm

MSN 226 (GS#1) inaugural flight #AIB01FG
MSN 227 (IB#2) inaugural flight #AIB01HC
MSN 228 (PR#2) out on a second test flight #AIB02NZ

ap305 · Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:50 pm

Peter Chandler, one of the key people involved in the development of the a350 and the captain on the first flight will retire shortly. He is flying the displays at the air show this week.

http://aviationweek.com/farnborough-air ... etire-high

ap305 · Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:02 pm

Interesting link from the a321xlr thread...

http://atwonline.com/farnborough-airsho ... dle-market

On Airbus’ other widebody, the A350-1000, Faury declined to confirm that the company is working on another increase of its maximum take-off weight beyond the recently disclosed move from 308 to 316 tons, which airline executives are hinting at.

A further mtow hike would appear to be on the cards for the -1000

JerseyFlyer · Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:17 pm

ap305 wrote:
Interesting link from the a321xlr thread...

http://atwonline.com/farnborough-airsho ... dle-market

On Airbus’ other widebody, the A350-1000, Faury declined to confirm that the company is working on another increase of its maximum take-off weight beyond the recently disclosed move from 308 to 316 tons, which airline executives are hinting at.

A further mtow hike would appear to be on the cards for the -1000

Does it need more MTOW? Maybe in anticipation of a stretch?

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