Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

ap305 · Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:05 am

Sayan777 wrote:
Is there any chance of Qatar flying A350 to LAX.

Airbus now states a range of 8400nm for the 316t -1000. It should be able to do lax if there are no significant restrictions caused by the temperature in Doha. Unfortunately the acap is not updated with -1000 field performance so no publicly available information.

BobMUC · Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:13 am

BobMUC wrote:
DL #11, MSN210 online with it's final registation: N511DN
https://www.flightradar24.com/N511DN/11b0b262

Delivery flight to Atlanta is online:
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL9940/1cc46d4d

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:15 am

MSN 114 (QR#26) first CAF #AIB04GN
MSN 210 (DL#11) delivery flight. #34 of 2018. #2 in June. Last scheduled DL delivery of 2018.
MSN 212 (LH#11) second CAF #AIB06NN
MSN 216 (SQ) additional test flight #AIB13NY
MSN 219 (IB#1) first CAF #AIB03NP

Slicutium · Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:34 pm

AsiaTravel wrote:
Slicutium wrote:
Does anyone know a more up to date production list?
The one I was looking at before doesn’t seem to be updated anymore
https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

This one is actually updated pretty consistently

For some reason I can’t see any updates after msn 222, it used to show frames entering FAL but lately that part has been frozen, thx for the reply.

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:17 pm

MSN 126 (QR#28) inaugural test flight #AIB01GU
MSN 219 (IB#1) made a second CAF this afternoon #AIB04NP

ap305 · Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:27 pm

Confirmed now....
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ke-449476/

Airbus has disclosed that its just-announced new higher-weight A350-1000 option, available immediately, allows operators to carry 5.5t more cargo or avail of 400nm (730km) in additional range.

This is a big range boost straight out of the box.

Devilfish · Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:47 pm

Slicutium wrote:
For some reason I can’t see any updates after msn 222, it used to show frames entering FAL but lately that part has been frozen.

Well, ln 228 for PR is now in cabin fit at Station 20 compared to the FAL previously. Might have something to do with the production rate change?

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:48 pm

MSN 188 (CX#24) completed its RTO. First flight scheduled for Friday.

Aircellist · Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:05 pm

Looking at the ACAPS, what is the interest of WV017? MTOW of 210T, with MZFW of 195.7T…

Polot · Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:16 pm

Aircellist wrote:
Looking at the ACAPS, what is the interest of WV017? MTOW of 210T, with MZFW of 195.7T…

A350R (Regional version, not ULR version proposed at program launch). SQ will be getting some starting later this year.

Aircellist · Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:19 pm

Thanks, Polot.

Regional, meaning what kind of range?

Stitch · Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:02 pm

Aircellist wrote:
Regional, meaning what kind of range?

It would depend on the ZFW, but you're likely looking at 1000-2000nm, So domestic hops like those handled by LGW A330-300s.

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:04 pm

MSN 102 (QR#27) out on another test flight #AIB03FY
MSN 188 (CX#24) inaugural flight #AIB01GS
MSN 221 (PR#1) second test flight #AIB02NA

ap305 · Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:19 pm

mjoelnir wrote:
ap305 wrote:
Stitch wrote:

The latest update to the Airbus A350-900 ACAP added two Weight Variants (WV010 and WV013) rated for a 280,000kg MTOW.

Not showing yet in the Easa Tcds and Airbus was quite clear that it will be 2020 for the introduction. Plans change of course but no confirmation of that.

The 280 t will be certified, by the time the first Singapore A350-900ULR will be delivered. I make you a bet, that the normal frame 280 t will be certified at the same time.

You got it right...The 280t variant will be available for the standard 900 as soon as the first ulr is delivered.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ld-449495/

ap305 · Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:46 am

https://twitter.com/JournoDannyAero

Airbus confimrs CX 1000 is a 316t mtow aircraft. They also say it can do Mia-Hkg.

LoganTheBogan · Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:31 am

MIA-HKG? Really?

Newflyer2018 · Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:33 am

any news on EY 1st A350

JerseyFlyer · Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:44 pm

This identifies the improvements for IB's A350.

Confirms CF door surrounds ported back from the -1000. Also that the changed wing twist is already incorporated into the -1000, but apparently not the revised larger winglets. Maybe they will arrive on later -1000s, or they do not yield the same advantages on the larger frome for some reason?

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... st-449531/

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:48 pm

MSN 218 (OZ#6) out for a second test flight #AIB02FQ
MSN 231 (CA#4) active on the flightline

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:23 pm

Other recent movements in TLS:
MSN 178 (CA#3) rolled out to the flightline
MSN 223 (SQ) on the move getting cabin fitted
MSN 225 (CX) entered cabin instal
MSN 230 (SQ) entered cabin instal
MSN 239 (CI#14) rolled out to the flightline in a special co-Airbus livery
MSN 249 (QR) rolled out of FAL
MSN 255 (LH#12) rolled out of FAL

Nami · Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:27 pm

A few months ago AY told that it had decided to bring forward two deliveries, one from 2023 to 2019 and another one coming in 2020 instead of 2022.

Any idea as to approximately when we will know which MSN will be AY #14?

trex8 · Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:17 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Other recent movements in TLS:
MSN 178 (CA#3) rolled out to the flightline
MSN 223 (SQ) on the move getting cabin fitted
MSN 225 (CX) entered cabin instal
MSN 230 (SQ) entered cabin instal
MSN 239 (CI#14) rolled out to the flightline in a special co-Airbus livery
MSN 249 (QR) rolled out of FAL
MSN 255 (LH#12) rolled out of FAL

Dont see any pics of the special CI livery on Toulouse spotters yet, any one know if any pics on other sites?

BobMUC · Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:03 am

MSN 114 (QR#24) is online with it's final registration: A7-ALW
https://www.flightradar24.com/A7ALW/1cd2dcd8

LAX772LR · Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:13 am

JerseyFlyer wrote:
though nobody would expect fuel-expensive ULH flights to take cargo in addition to pax and their luggage.

That's not true at all. The old SIN-EWR took cargo, UA takes cargo on its California-SIN flights, EK takes cargo on several 16hr+ flights, etc.

CX Flyboy · Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:17 am

LAX772LR wrote:
JerseyFlyer wrote:
though nobody would expect fuel-expensive ULH flights to take cargo in addition to pax and their luggage.

That's not true at all. The old SIN-EWR took cargo, UA takes cargo on its California-SIN flights, EK takes cargo on several 16hr+ flights, etc.

How much cargo are we talking here?

LAX772LR · Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:40 am

CX Flyboy wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
JerseyFlyer wrote:
though nobody would expect fuel-expensive ULH flights to take cargo in addition to pax and their luggage.

That's not true at all. The old SIN-EWR took cargo, UA takes cargo on its California-SIN flights, EK takes cargo on several 16hr+ flights, etc.

How much cargo are we talking here?

Nothing impressive. I don't have exact numbers, but there was a thread that mentioned UA was able to take several tons both ways on SFO-SIN during summer, though winter it was pretty much nil, and at worst up to 20seats blocked.

Also saw that when AKL had a fuel line issue, causing QR and EK to 1stop their westbounds, that the both weren't able to take their normal inbound cargo, as they tanking higher fuel than normal due to initial concerns of limited fuel even for techstopping.

mat66 · Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:00 am

Would be nice if during the Cathay A35K delivery ceremony right now, they‘d say how many Cathay will get this year. Well, more than Qatar Airways for sure

Chaostheory · Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:25 am

CX Flyboy wrote:

How much cargo are we talking here?

Assuming a 15 hour sector, we could carry almost 5t on our 789s. Though I'm not sure if 15 hours qualifies as ULH these days.

itisi · Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:43 am

mat66 wrote:
Would be nice if during the Cathay A35K delivery ceremony right now, they‘d say how many Cathay will get this year. Well, more than Qatar Airways for sure

They expect 7

BobMUC · Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:49 pm

itisi wrote:
mat66 wrote:
Would be nice if during the Cathay A35K delivery ceremony right now, they‘d say how many Cathay will get this year. Well, more than Qatar Airways for sure

They expect 7

In total or 7 of A35Ks?

Delivery flight:
https://www.flightradar24.com/CPA3510

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:52 pm

MSN 102 (QR#27) out on another test flight #AIB04FY
MSN 118 (CX#23) on delivery flight. Delivery #35 of 2018. #3 in June
MSN 212 (LH#11) sporting its final regs. Delivery imminent

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:54 pm

mat66 wrote:
Would be nice if during the Cathay A35K delivery ceremony right now, they‘d say how many Cathay will get this year. Well, more than Qatar Airways for sure

I believe the CX delivery schedule is the following:
2018: 8x 35J (including today's delivery)
2019: 2x 359 + 4x 35J
2020: 4x 359 + 3x 35J
2021: 5x 35J

mat66 · Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:04 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
mat66 wrote:
Would be nice if during the Cathay A35K delivery ceremony right now, they‘d say how many Cathay will get this year. Well, more than Qatar Airways for sure

I believe the CX delivery schedule is the following:
2018: 8x 35J (including today's delivery)
2019: 2x 359 + 4x 35J
2020: 4x 359 + 3x 35J
2021: 5x 35J

Thank you. Very detailed info.

kaichinshih · Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:16 pm

trex8 wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Other recent movements in TLS:
MSN 178 (CA#3) rolled out to the flightline
MSN 223 (SQ) on the move getting cabin fitted
MSN 225 (CX) entered cabin instal
MSN 230 (SQ) entered cabin instal
MSN 239 (CI#14) rolled out to the flightline in a special co-Airbus livery
MSN 249 (QR) rolled out of FAL
MSN 255 (LH#12) rolled out of FAL

Dont see any pics of the special CI livery on Toulouse spotters yet, any one know if any pics on other sites?

According to Taiwanese aviation forums, it's apparently the plane left of the CX A350 in this photo

LFBO toulouse blagnac flightline by theo franchi, on Flickr

trex8 · Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:55 pm

kaichinshih wrote:
trex8 wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Other recent movements in TLS:
MSN 178 (CA#3) rolled out to the flightline
MSN 223 (SQ) on the move getting cabin fitted
MSN 225 (CX) entered cabin instal
MSN 230 (SQ) entered cabin instal
MSN 239 (CI#14) rolled out to the flightline in a special co-Airbus livery
MSN 249 (QR) rolled out of FAL
MSN 255 (LH#12) rolled out of FAL

Dont see any pics of the special CI livery on Toulouse spotters yet, any one know if any pics on other sites?

According to Taiwanese aviation forums, it's apparently the plane left of the CX A350 in this photo

LFBO toulouse blagnac flightline by theo franchi, on Flickr

No plum blossom yet??? And what ever happened to the birds? Only two planes got them painted???

timpdx · Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:58 pm

Sorry, just flew out of TLS, but looking west towards sunset could only make out QR and CX. My EZY window was crap, too.

audidudi · Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:55 pm

The next A350 for Qatar Airways was delivered today. Delivery #4 in June. Delivery #36 in 2018.

Airbus A350-941 114 A7-ALW Qatar Airways delivery 20 June 2018 TLS-DOH ex F-WZGN

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:00 pm

MSN 178 (CA#3) active on the flightline this evening
MSN 227 (IB#2) active on the flightline this afternoon

tomcat · Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:29 pm

ap305 wrote:
Confirmed now....
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ke-449476/

Airbus has disclosed that its just-announced new higher-weight A350-1000 option, available immediately, allows operators to carry 5.5t more cargo or avail of 400nm (730km) in additional range.

This is a big range boost straight out of the box.

"to carry 5.5t more cargo": more than which variant? The MZFW (223t) of this new WV002 is the same as of the WV001 and only 3t higher than the WV000. I doubt that Airbus has managed to save 5t of weight from the aircraft, so I'm curious to know where this increased cargo capacity came from. Note that I've also seen this tweet of an Airbus presentation announcing this increased cargo capacity. What are your thoughts?

StTim · Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:45 pm

tomcat wrote:
ap305 wrote:
Confirmed now....
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ke-449476/

Airbus has disclosed that its just-announced new higher-weight A350-1000 option, available immediately, allows operators to carry 5.5t more cargo or avail of 400nm (730km) in additional range.

This is a big range boost straight out of the box.

"to carry 5.5t more cargo": more than which variant? The MZFW (223t) of this new WV002 is the same as of the WV001 and only 3t higher than the WV000. I doubt that Airbus has managed to save 5t of weight from the aircraft, so I'm curious to know where this increased cargo capacity came from. Note that I've also seen this tweet of an Airbus presentation announcing this increased cargo capacity. What are your thoughts?

It didn't say cargo volume had increased. It did say that cargo mass that could be carried over a range would increase.

itisi · Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:50 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
mat66 wrote:
Would be nice if during the Cathay A35K delivery ceremony right now, they‘d say how many Cathay will get this year. Well, more than Qatar Airways for sure

I believe the CX delivery schedule is the following:
2018: 8x 35J (including today's delivery)
2019: 2x 359 + 4x 35J
2020: 4x 359 + 3x 35J
2021: 5x 35J

B-LXD does not have a delivery date yet. Others have. Not sure why

BobMUC · Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:05 pm

tomcat wrote:
ap305 wrote:
Confirmed now....
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ke-449476/

Airbus has disclosed that its just-announced new higher-weight A350-1000 option, available immediately, allows operators to carry 5.5t more cargo or avail of 400nm (730km) in additional range.

This is a big range boost straight out of the box.

"to carry 5.5t more cargo": more than which variant? The MZFW (223t) of this new WV002 is the same as of the WV001 and only 3t higher than the WV000. I doubt that Airbus has managed to save 5t of weight from the aircraft, so I'm curious to know where this increased cargo capacity came from. Note that I've also seen this tweet of an Airbus presentation announcing this increased cargo capacity. What are your thoughts?

I wasn't able to find the picture of this presentation either. But maybe some more details about the additional capacity in this article:
http://atwonline.com/airframes/airbus-e ... -a350-1000

"According to Airbus, there are no structural or hardware changes to the aircraft. The increase has been made possible because some design margin was released and fuel capacity was increased."

BobMUC · Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:09 pm

Correction... found it:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df9mA93XkAACqF_.jpg

https://twitter.com/JournoDannyAero/sta ... 4055489537

JamesCousins · Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:06 pm

Does anyone know when the first A35K for Virgin Atlantic is scheduled for? Is there also anything concrete behind a murmur that one may be a former A35K test aircraft?

jumbojet · Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:02 am

BobMUC wrote:
BobMUC wrote:
DL #11, MSN210 online with it's final registation: N511DN
https://www.flightradar24.com/N511DN/11b0b262

Delivery flight to Atlanta is online:
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL9940/1cc46d4d

I think thats it for a while as far as A350's being assembled for DL goes. Next one, #12, is not for a while

I believe they will take delivery of 4 more later this year then the last 10 are deferred until 2022-ish?

audidudi · Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:20 am

jumbojet wrote:
BobMUC wrote:
BobMUC wrote:
DL #11, MSN210 online with it's final registation: N511DN
https://www.flightradar24.com/N511DN/11b0b262

Delivery flight to Atlanta is online:
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL9940/1cc46d4d

I think thats it for a while as far as A350's being assembled for DL goes. Next one, #12, is not for a while

I believe they will take delivery of 4 more later this year then the last 10 are deferred until 2022-ish?

The next two A359s for DL will be N512DN and N513DN, which are scheduled for delivery in January and February 2019.

audidudi · Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:30 am

itisi wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
mat66 wrote:
Would be nice if during the Cathay A35K delivery ceremony right now, they‘d say how many Cathay will get this year. Well, more than Qatar Airways for sure

I believe the CX delivery schedule is the following:
2018: 8x 35J (including today's delivery)
2019: 2x 359 + 4x 35J
2020: 4x 359 + 3x 35J
2021: 5x 35J

B-LXD does not have a delivery date yet. Others have. Not sure why

Care to share with everyone the delivery dates for B-LXB/C and others? The only thing I've seen is for a delivery in July for LXC.

trijetsonly · Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:03 am

BobMUC wrote:
Correction... found it:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df9mA93XkAACqF_.jpg

https://twitter.com/JournoDannyAero/sta ... 4055489537

I really doubt that the A35K is lighter than a Tu-154...

BobMUC · Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:04 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 212 (LH#11) sporting its final regs. Delivery imminent

Delivered and on its way to MUC:
https://www.flightradar24.com/DLH9885/1cd94878

itisi · Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:11 am

audidudi wrote:
itisi wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
I believe the CX delivery schedule is the following:
2018: 8x 35J (including today's delivery)
2019: 2x 359 + 4x 35J
2020: 4x 359 + 3x 35J
2021: 5x 35J

B-LXD does not have a delivery date yet. Others have. Not sure why

Care to share with everyone the delivery dates for B-LXB/C and others? The only thing I've seen is for a delivery in July for LXC.

LXA Jun
LXB Aug
LXC July
LXD not confirmed
LXE Oct
LXF Oct
LXG Nov
LXH Dec

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