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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:31 am

I saw an instagram video highlighting the new 757-300 cabin. Although F has the new seats (same on the A320 and 73G), economy is the B/E Aerospae Pinnacle with seat back pocket, the same as the 737-900ERs. I was surprised that they didn't even install a tablet holder like the 77As, given that these birds sometimes fly ORD-LAX and LAX/SFO-Hawaii.

Pretty disappointing, from my point of view. BYOD is not a replacement for seatback IFE. They could have at least provided some sort of device holder at the very least. Furthermore, the old 757-300s had some of the best legroom out of all the aircraft in UA's fleet.

On the other hand, there are some seats that you'll want to be grabbing if you are flying on this configuration. The seats immediately behind the second overwing exit are missing a seat in front, giving you essentially unlimited legroom. I also don't think you'll have to stow your bags in the overheads, because there is a seat two rows in front that you can put your stuff under.
 
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Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:30 am

Care to provide the link to the Instagram video?
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:00 pm

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Care to provide the link to the Instagram video?


Here ya go.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhCXX-LAPcg/

757-300 Walkthrough. Credit: nonrevnick on Instagram
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:32 pm

CAL wrote:
adamblang wrote:
Care to provide the link to the Instagram video?


Here ya go.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhCXX-LAPcg/

757-300 Walkthrough. Credit: nonrevnick on Instagram

Wow, looking at the United.com seat map shows the 2nd exit row of 2 seats on each side is not Economy Plus. Those seats are always going to be the first seats selected on the plane.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:38 pm

The most interesting part of the 753 reconfiguration is there is no ISP in most of Y. Soon, the entire fleet will have PDE only and fly transcon and Hawaiian flights.
739ER/739MAX have ISP throughout (73G and 738 do not), but the 753 doesn't - not quite sure what the logic is here. With PDE being the norm on many narrowbodies, ISP should be available throughout the aircraft.

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Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:07 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
The most interesting part of the 753 reconfiguration is there is no ISP in most of Y. Soon, the entire fleet will have PDE only and fly transcon and Hawaiian flights.
739ER/739MAX have ISP throughout (73G and 738 do not), but the 753 doesn't - not quite sure what the logic is here. With PDE being the norm on many narrowbodies, ISP should be available throughout the aircraft.




There is internal info for UA crew which indicates there is to be power (ISP) throughout the entire cabin. I wonder if there was a last-minute change in the specs as you are correct - united.com indicates ISP only for first and e+?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:38 pm

CAL wrote:
Here ya go.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhCXX-LAPcg/

757-300 Walkthrough. Credit: nonrevnick on Instagram

Thank you! That cabin goes on and on and on!

I appreciate the refreshed bulkheads in this cabin. It's a small thing that doesn't do diddly on an accountant's spreadsheet but finishes out the cabin nicely.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:43 pm

FlightLevel360 wrote:
I saw an instagram video highlighting the new 757-300 cabin. Although F has the new seats (same on the A320 and 73G), economy is the B/E Aerospae Pinnacle with seat back pocket, the same as the 737-900ERs. I was surprised that they didn't even install a tablet holder like the 77As, given that these birds sometimes fly ORD-LAX and LAX/SFO-Hawaii.

Pretty disappointing, from my point of view. BYOD is not a replacement for seatback IFE. They could have at least provided some sort of device holder at the very least. Furthermore, the old 757-300s had some of the best legroom out of all the aircraft in UA's fleet.

On the other hand, there are some seats that you'll want to be grabbing if you are flying on this configuration. The seats immediately behind the second overwing exit are missing a seat in front, giving you essentially unlimited legroom. I also don't think you'll have to stow your bags in the overheads, because there is a seat two rows in front that you can put your stuff under.


Did they replace those 1980s lavs and lighting or just do the minimum necessary to get by?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:50 pm

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fun2fly wrote:
Boeing12345 wrote:

Not really, the amount of time it takes to get everything in place for that type mod is very time consuming. A/C 2786 had its work package already put together well before mod induction back on Jan 12.


I'm thinking that the odd part is now they will have two sub-fleets.


The expectation is that 2786 will be the only one with new Polaris and no Premium Plus (as 2796 replaces it at XMN), so hopefully it can be retrofit on an expedited basis, maybe even here in the States at SFOMX.

I am eager to see the LOPA.



Looks like 2786 will be scheduled in around beginning of August to have the premium plus added.

Looking ahead the 777's are scheduled pretty heavy and show about 7 having Polaris and Premium Plus by end of September.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:14 pm

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calpsafltskeds wrote:
With 750 aircraft, it's not easy to have 999 available numbers without dupes. The merger has sCO 3 digit system and sUA 4 digit system, which creates several dupe with the last 3 digits - ideally the 4 digit system would include individual 3 digits
739 and 753 have dupes in 800 range.
73G and 772 have dupes in 700 range
738 and 772 have dupes in 200 range
77W has a new range of 2X4X
It all works with 4 digit, even though not easily grasped with different ranges from 2 airlines
The only question I have is why the 7Max aircraft aren't using the blank 300 range.

764:
N76062 entered MCO 2801/2Apr

The 0600, 1000, 9000, and now 8000 are also open.
Given there will be over 160+ Max there is plenty of room in the 7000 for them all.
Max9 are 7500, MAX10 are 7700 ... I would’ve started 7100, 7300 myself, but what can you do. :scratchchin:

Note: technically 3000 are open as well... but given current computer software won’t accept 0 as a first digit, all former CO aircraft that had 0 added to the original three digit fleet #s show 3xxx #s online.



Don't forget that the UAX fleet all have the 4 digit numbers as well for SHARES, 1000's taken with GoJet and Republic and Mesa, 7000's for Skywest, 9000's for the ERJ's flown by TransStates, CommutAir and ExpressJet, so not all of those ranges are open.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:19 pm

Amwest2United wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
With 750 aircraft, it's not easy to have 999 available numbers without dupes. The merger has sCO 3 digit system and sUA 4 digit system, which creates several dupe with the last 3 digits - ideally the 4 digit system would include individual 3 digits
739 and 753 have dupes in 800 range.
73G and 772 have dupes in 700 range
738 and 772 have dupes in 200 range
77W has a new range of 2X4X
It all works with 4 digit, even though not easily grasped with different ranges from 2 airlines
The only question I have is why the 7Max aircraft aren't using the blank 300 range.

764:
N76062 entered MCO 2801/2Apr

The 0600, 1000, 9000, and now 8000 are also open.
Given there will be over 160+ Max there is plenty of room in the 7000 for them all.
Max9 are 7500, MAX10 are 7700 ... I would’ve started 7100, 7300 myself, but what can you do. :scratchchin:

Note: technically 3000 are open as well... but given current computer software won’t accept 0 as a first digit, all former CO aircraft that had 0 added to the original three digit fleet #s show 3xxx #s online.



Don't forget that the UAX fleet all have the 4 digit numbers as well for SHARES, 1000's taken with GoJet and Republic and Mesa, 7000's for Skywest, 9000's for the ERJ's flown by TransStates, CommutAir and ExpressJet, so not all of those ranges are open.

Good point. I was thinking those were in a separate database.. oh well... Still plenty of open sequences to work with.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:25 am

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VC10er wrote:
FSDan wrote:

It'll be a few more months before the next delivery, right? I wonder if EWR-HKG will get the 77W once the final two are on property...


From your lips to God’s ear! (Or Oscar) I would love that out of EWR.

EWR is like United's youngest child who gets hand-me-downs with their wide body fleet. The 77W is daily on NRT and almost daily on one of the TLV flights. United has shifted over all the 763s and 772 A domestics. Nothing much comes to EWR new.



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Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:05 am

I assume that all brand new 737-MAX aircraft will get the new F seat, slimlines E+, Y and basic as well as the new bulkheads?
And I assume that the 764’s will never get Polaris? Will they be redeployed domestically as the 78J’s arrive?
Given Polaris must not be cheap, is Kirby the one who decides what ac will get what? If not who ultimately makes these decisions? I’m have a feeling (although naturally I could be wrong) that Oscar doesn’t get involved at that level? Or is presented with the grand plan for his approval?
If I were king I’d demand that all long haul international aircraft must be consistent, I would give a little on old domestic narrow bodies, but not when competing with international majors.

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Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:07 am

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Last and most important of all things aviation: I STILL keep getting “FAREWELL 747” tin amenity kits. I have 11 of them, I have to start throwing them out. What happened to those nice Saks Fifth Ave kits that matched the duvets?


I have bad news for you. The small Saks Fifth Ave kits are coming back right now but only to deplete what is left over in stock. We are getting a new tin amenity kit that is almost the exact same as the 747 tin it just says United/Polaris instead. I'm not sure what they are thinking with this. Nobody takes them. Everyone liked the Saks kits and some of the others you could take with you at the end of the trip. Nobody wants to hang onto a bid tin.
 
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:34 am

I flew recently on 2 UA 763 N654UA & N659UA both very tired Economy Plus cabins with no seat charging for devices. Are these 2 waiting for a cabin upgrade or retirement?
 
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:44 pm

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And I assume that the 764’s will never get Polaris? Will they be redeployed domestically as the 78J’s arrive?
Given Polaris must not be cheap, is Kirby the one who decides what ac will get what? If not who ultimately makes these decisions? I’m have a feeling (although naturally I could be wrong) that Oscar doesn’t get involved at that level? Or is presented with the grand plan for his approval?

I wouldn't assume that the 764's will never get Polaris. I would think the 764's will be the last 767's to go. They are both the newest and the most economical, so unless the 767's eventual retirements happen to coincide with 764 D checks, there's no reason to get rid of them earlier than the 763's. They may have a little shorter range, but now with all the 787's, none of the 767's are being used for their range. Just enough to make it across the pond, to just about anywhere in Europe or South America. Also, I do not think that Kirby is making these decisions without Munoz. Polaris was in the works since far before Kirby arrived, and UA has not contradicted itself with it's Polaris rollout plan yet. Everything I've heard has been consistent with the order aircraft are getting them now.
 
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:45 pm

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I flew recently on 2 UA 763 N654UA & N659UA both very tired Economy Plus cabins with no seat charging for devices. Are these 2 waiting for a cabin upgrade or retirement?

I believe that both are scheduled to get the Polaris upgrade.
 
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:18 pm

cosyr,
Good assessment on the 764. EWR-HNL, IAH-AMS and US-Brazil covers a majority of International services and the 16 unit fleet can easily be scheduled on those and shorter routes. If not converted to Polaris, could the 764 eventually become a transcon, hub-to-hub, Hawaiian aircraft or less premium TATL aircraft? It's has fairly dense seating and economics are good.
Besides cost, I think Polaris may have another issue that the 763 doesn't - that being door 2. Maintaining the 39 BF seats with Polaris is likely not be a good fit with a fixed distance between doors. The 763 has no door 2, so spacing for Polaris is flexible with the Y cabin.
That being said, maybe the 764 could have a reduced Polaris configuration and small premium economy section before Door 2 and be utilized on less premium routes.
Also, the 764 could be configured like the 772A with a reduced BF section and more dense Y.

738:
N77520 exited RFD 2798/4Apr with slimlines - now all 141 738s have slimlines

764:
N76064 sked to exit MCO 2796/5Apr
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:28 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
cosyr,
Good assessment on the 764. EWR-HNL, IAH-AMS and US-Brazil covers a majority of International services and the 16 unit fleet can easily be scheduled on those and shorter routes. If not converted to Polaris, could the 764 eventually become a transcon, hub-to-hub, Hawaiian aircraft or less premium TATL aircraft? It's has fairly dense seating and economics are good.
Besides cost, I think Polaris may have another issue that the 763 doesn't - that being door 2. Maintaining the 39 BF seats with Polaris is likely not be a good fit with a fixed distance between doors. The 763 has no door 2, so spacing for Polaris is flexible with the Y cabin.
That being said, maybe the 764 could have a reduced Polaris configuration and small premium economy section before Door 2 and be utilized on less premium routes.
Also, the 764 could be configured like the 772A with a reduced BF section and more dense Y.

738:
N77520 exited RFD 2798/4Apr with slimlines - now all 141 738s have slimlines

764:
N76064 sked to exit MCO 2796/5Apr


One would think that if the 764 is transitioned to US TCon/HI service UA would reduce the J cabin by a few rows to add more E+/E. They could potentially add even more E with the introduction of slimlines similar to the new 75E and 77G/M configurations. A 764 with ~270-290 seats would surely be a CASM king with the added ability to take containerized cargo. The 764 is a surprisingly great cargo hauler provided you’re using 767 compatible containers.

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Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:47 pm

77H wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
cosyr,
Good assessment on the 764. EWR-HNL, IAH-AMS and US-Brazil covers a majority of International services and the 16 unit fleet can easily be scheduled on those and shorter routes. If not converted to Polaris, could the 764 eventually become a transcon, hub-to-hub, Hawaiian aircraft or less premium TATL aircraft? It's has fairly dense seating and economics are good.
Besides cost, I think Polaris may have another issue that the 763 doesn't - that being door 2. Maintaining the 39 BF seats with Polaris is likely not be a good fit with a fixed distance between doors. The 763 has no door 2, so spacing for Polaris is flexible with the Y cabin.
That being said, maybe the 764 could have a reduced Polaris configuration and small premium economy section before Door 2 and be utilized on less premium routes.
Also, the 764 could be configured like the 772A with a reduced BF section and more dense Y.

738:
N77520 exited RFD 2798/4Apr with slimlines - now all 141 738s have slimlines

764:
N76064 sked to exit MCO 2796/5Apr


One would think that if the 764 is transitioned to US TCon/HI service UA would reduce the J cabin by a few rows to add more E+/E. They could potentially add even more E with the introduction of slimlines similar to the new 75E and 77G/M configurations. A 764 with ~270-290 seats would surely be a CASM king with the added ability to take containerized cargo. The 764 is a surprisingly great cargo hauler provided you’re using 767 compatible containers.

77H


Speaking of which, did/does PMCO and the combined company use LD2s on the 764s? I thought PMUA only used LD3s on the 767s or am I wrong?
 
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:51 pm

i remember reading on a few forums on how the 764 will not get the Polaris seat, what is the reason behind that?

With the first 772 retrofit near completion, and another one with the new Premium plus..how long till we see the entire international fleet with the new Premium plus?
 
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:40 pm

CAL wrote:
VC10er wrote:

Last and most important of all things aviation: I STILL keep getting “FAREWELL 747” tin amenity kits. I have 11 of them, I have to start throwing them out. What happened to those nice Saks Fifth Ave kits that matched the duvets?


I have bad news for you. The small Saks Fifth Ave kits are coming back right now but only to deplete what is left over in stock. We are getting a new tin amenity kit that is almost the exact same as the 747 tin it just says United/Polaris instead. I'm not sure what they are thinking with this. Nobody takes them. Everyone liked the Saks kits and some of the others you could take with you at the end of the trip. Nobody wants to hang onto a bid tin.



Sell them on Ebay $200.00 per kit......
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:19 pm

xxcr wrote:
i remember reading on a few forums on how the 764 will not get the Polaris seat, what is the reason behind that?

With the first 772 retrofit near completion, and another one with the new Premium plus..how long till we see the entire international fleet with the new Premium plus?

They have not specifically said that any fleet type will not get Polaris, even the 752. There are only those that have a firm or loose schedule to have them installed and than the remaining fleet after that. If after the 772's and 763's are upgraded, and then the 787's, they will evaluate when to upgrade other planes.
 
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:04 pm

Both carriers used LD2's for 767's
 
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:59 pm

gwrudolph wrote:
77H wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
cosyr,
Good assessment on the 764. EWR-HNL, IAH-AMS and US-Brazil covers a majority of International services and the 16 unit fleet can easily be scheduled on those and shorter routes. If not converted to Polaris, could the 764 eventually become a transcon, hub-to-hub, Hawaiian aircraft or less premium TATL aircraft? It's has fairly dense seating and economics are good.
Besides cost, I think Polaris may have another issue that the 763 doesn't - that being door 2. Maintaining the 39 BF seats with Polaris is likely not be a good fit with a fixed distance between doors. The 763 has no door 2, so spacing for Polaris is flexible with the Y cabin.
That being said, maybe the 764 could have a reduced Polaris configuration and small premium economy section before Door 2 and be utilized on less premium routes.
Also, the 764 could be configured like the 772A with a reduced BF section and more dense Y.

738:
N77520 exited RFD 2798/4Apr with slimlines - now all 141 738s have slimlines

764:
N76064 sked to exit MCO 2796/5Apr


One would think that if the 764 is transitioned to US TCon/HI service UA would reduce the J cabin by a few rows to add more E+/E. They could potentially add even more E with the introduction of slimlines similar to the new 75E and 77G/M configurations. A 764 with ~270-290 seats would surely be a CASM king with the added ability to take containerized cargo. The 764 is a surprisingly great cargo hauler provided you’re using 767 compatible containers.

77H


Speaking of which, did/does PMCO and the combined company use LD2s on the 764s? I thought PMUA only used LD3s on the 767s or am I wrong?


I believe both used L2/L4/L8 equipment prior to the merger as I’ve seen all 3 types with CO and UA codes on them. Example: DPE123CO/UA.

Using a L3 on a 767 is a waste of capacity as it’s footprint is ~1.5 positions. Since you can’t use the remaining space it’s goes out empty. Where as a L2/L8 will take up the entire horizontal footprint of the hold. L3s are generally used only in the absence of anything more compatible.

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319:
N4888U sked to exit LCQ Induction 2803/6Apr - 12th ex-China Southern 319

73G:
N39726 sked to exit IAH for GUM in GUM slimline config 12F/30E+/84Y (extended crew rest seats in F)

N37298 (GUM unit) entered IAH 2783/29Mar for maintenance (potemtial conversion back to mainland fleet??)
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:22 am

Anyone have a heads up of when N66501 is due to exit HKG? Looks like she is up doing a test flight right now. Would love to get over there to fly her home.
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:31 am

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Anyone have a heads up of when N66501 is due to exit HKG? Looks like she is up doing a test flight right now. Would love to get over there to fly her home.


I'm confused on what aircraft you are looking for...that N number is registered to a Cessna.

Assuming you are talking about 66051....sorry not a clue. I forgot that it was there for MTC and a crew rest mod.
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:54 am

That's 764 N66051, been in HKG since 3/2 for maint and Y F/A crew mod. N69063 is also there since 2/28.
4 crew mods complete, 2 in mode, 10 flying w/o mod.
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Nose #/ Type/ MFG S/N/ ...N #/...Fuse #

7501 737MAX-9 .43430 N67501 6834
7502 737MAX-9 .43431 N37502 6852
7503 737MAX-9 .43434 N27503 6872
7504 737MAX-9 .43435 N37504 6899
7505 737MAX-9 .43433 N47505 6917
7506 737MAX-9 .43432 N37506 6935
7507 737MAX-9 .43437 .TBD .....7173
7508 737MAX-9 .43439 .TBD......7201
7509 737MAX-9 . TBD....TBD......7253
7751 737MAX-10 TBD....TBD.......TBD
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:23 pm

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kaitakfan wrote:
Anyone have a heads up of when N66501 is due to exit HKG? Looks like she is up doing a test flight right now. Would love to get over there to fly her home.


I'm confused on what aircraft you are looking for...that N number is registered to a Cessna.


Test hop on the 8th, ETR Service on the 9th.

That's weird. The N number for 051 is N66501.
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:31 pm

Has anyone seen a seatmap for the 777-200ER with the new Polaris seats? If you have could you please post it or share the link?
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:14 pm

Almost half the plane will be Polaris, just like the 777-300ER. Economy is obviously getting densified to accommodate the new premium heavy cabin

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/10/united ... 77-layout/
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:14 pm

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Has anyone seen a seatmap for the 777-200ER with the new Polaris seats? If you have could you please post it or share the link?

It just got posted on United.com https://www.united.com/web/en-US/conten ... fault.aspx Version 5

It is interesting that when you compare it to the ITPE, from which it was converted, they opted to move the bathroom by Door 3R to the outside and replace the center with a closet. Unless that is also a stair to a crew rest, I don't really see why it was worth the expense of moving a Lav without even gaining seat space.
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:23 pm

gsg013 wrote:
Has anyone seen a seatmap for the 777-200ER with the new Polaris seats? If you have could you please post it or share the link?


Engineering has loaded the seat map into Unimatic (United's private system) the seat map is also in the weight and balance system trying to copy and paste the seat map from either of those systems is not allowed and I haven't seen anything for public viewing just yet.

What gives me concern is ORD-HKG, PVG, and EWR-HKG, PVG the additional seats on these aircraft will make weight restrictions in the summer time even more hectic for our front line employees. Even though the sCO 77E's have a higher MTOG than the sUA fleet once all the 77E's (sCO and sUA) are refreshed these flights are going to be hell during the summer months unless UA upguages these flights to the 77W or downguages them to a 789.
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:24 pm

Did anyone else know that they were removing seat back TV's on the Polaris 772's in Y?! :cry: :evil: I knew they were going to 10 across, but I just assumed they would be putting the same seats as the 77W's, not the HI birds. A leisure destination like HNL I get, but these 772's might fly to Australia on 15 hour flights! What are they thinking? :banghead:
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:44 pm

cosyr wrote:
Did anyone else know that they were removing seat back TV's on the Polaris 772's in Y?! :cry: :evil: I knew they were going to 10 across, but I just assumed they would be putting the same seats as the 77W's, not the HI birds. A leisure destination like HNL I get, but these 772's might fly to Australia on 15 hour flights! What are they thinking? :banghead:


Unclear if that is the case in actuality.
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:52 pm

codc10 wrote:
cosyr wrote:
Did anyone else know that they were removing seat back TV's on the Polaris 772's in Y?! :cry: :evil: I knew they were going to 10 across, but I just assumed they would be putting the same seats as the 77W's, not the HI birds. A leisure destination like HNL I get, but these 772's might fly to Australia on 15 hour flights! What are they thinking? :banghead:


Unclear if that is the case in actuality.

I suppose it could be an error on their website seat map, but they clearly include Seatback TV's for Polaris, and not for Economy or Economy Plus. Seeing as it is a new map, not just an update, like when they were adding Wi-Fi to existing planes, it seems unlikely it is just an omission.
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:04 pm

Wow just when you cant believe United would do anything dumber they go and do something like this. No AVOD in Y or Y+ they must be crazy.

I will not be taking a trip in Y on United on these birds anytime soon.
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:58 pm

The information on the website seatmap is incorrect, according to a colleague at United HQ. There are seatback screens in Economy on the Polaris 777-200s. The website should be corrected soon.
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:02 pm

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Wow just when you cant believe United would do anything dumber they go and do something like this. No AVOD in Y or Y+ they must be crazy.

I will not be taking a trip in Y on United on these birds anytime soon.


Relax...the seats in Y/Y+ have AVOD.
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:05 pm

cosyr wrote:
Did anyone else know that they were removing seat back TV's on the Polaris 772's in Y?! :cry: :evil: I knew they were going to 10 across, but I just assumed they would be putting the same seats as the 77W's, not the HI birds. A leisure destination like HNL I get, but these 772's might fly to Australia on 15 hour flights! What are they thinking? :banghead:


They are getting a different type of Y class seat than the 77Ws but it will have AVOD...UA should be the first airline with B/Es Aspire Y class seats.

"The Aspire product line features more passenger living space with an increase in seat width over current generation seats. A key feature of the Aspire patented comfort system is an advanced kinematic mechanism that cradles the passenger during recline while preserving maximum living space for each passenger. Aspire also incorporates added under seat stowage and greater passenger living space due to the proprietary seat frame and leg structure. Passenger amenities combine the latest new generation Panasonic high definition monitor for In Flight Entertainment, a mid-level literature pocket combined with a full width single piece food tray, aft facing PC Power on all seat assemblies and ergonomic adjustable headrests."
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:14 pm

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cosyr wrote:
Did anyone else know that they were removing seat back TV's on the Polaris 772's in Y?! :cry: :evil: I knew they were going to 10 across, but I just assumed they would be putting the same seats as the 77W's, not the HI birds. A leisure destination like HNL I get, but these 772's might fly to Australia on 15 hour flights! What are they thinking? :banghead:


They are getting a different type of Y class seat than the 77Ws but it will have AVOD...UA should be the first airline with B/Es Aspire Y class seats.

"The Aspire product line features more passenger living space with an increase in seat width over current generation seats. A key feature of the Aspire patented comfort system is an advanced kinematic mechanism that cradles the passenger during recline while preserving maximum living space for each passenger. Aspire also incorporates added under seat stowage and greater passenger living space due to the proprietary seat frame and leg structure. Passenger amenities combine the latest new generation Panasonic high definition monitor for In Flight Entertainment, a mid-level literature pocket combined with a full width single piece food tray, aft facing PC Power on all seat assemblies and ergonomic adjustable headrests."


Okay glad that it was an error in the seatmap online.
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:08 pm

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kaitakfan wrote:
Anyone have a heads up of when N66501 is due to exit HKG? Looks like she is up doing a test flight right now. Would love to get over there to fly her home.


I'm confused on what aircraft you are looking for...that N number is registered to a Cessna.


Test hop on the 8th, ETR Service on the 9th.

That's weird. The N number for 051 is N66501.

No it isn't! For the second time, N66501 is registered to a 1974 Cessna 150M. Exactly as noted in reply #628 above! The aircraft we are talking about is N66051.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66051
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:09 pm

United1 wrote:
cosyr wrote:
Did anyone else know that they were removing seat back TV's on the Polaris 772's in Y?! :cry: :evil: I knew they were going to 10 across, but I just assumed they would be putting the same seats as the 77W's, not the HI birds. A leisure destination like HNL I get, but these 772's might fly to Australia on 15 hour flights! What are they thinking? :banghead:


They are getting a different type of Y class seat than the 77Ws but it will have AVOD...UA should be the first airline with B/Es Aspire Y class seats.

"The Aspire product line features more passenger living space with an increase in seat width over current generation seats. A key feature of the Aspire patented comfort system is an advanced kinematic mechanism that cradles the passenger during recline while preserving maximum living space for each passenger. Aspire also incorporates added under seat stowage and greater passenger living space due to the proprietary seat frame and leg structure. Passenger amenities combine the latest new generation Panasonic high definition monitor for In Flight Entertainment, a mid-level literature pocket combined with a full width single piece food tray, aft facing PC Power on all seat assemblies and ergonomic adjustable headrests."

Is that quote from something within United or from B/E's literature?
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:50 pm

audidudi wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
United1 wrote:
kaitakfan wrote:
Anyone have a heads up of when N66501 is due to exit HKG? Looks like she is up doing a test flight right now. Would love to get over there to fly her home.


I'm confused on what aircraft you are looking for...that N number is registered to a Cessna.


Test hop on the 8th, ETR Service on the 9th.

That's weird. The N number for 051 is N66501.

No it isn't! For the second time, N66501 is registered to a 1974 Cessna 150M. Exactly as noted in reply #628 above! The aircraft we are talking about is N66051.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66051

Sorry I meant reply #528 above!
 
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Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:21 am

Here she is.....still a guppy though.

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Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:30 am

cosyr wrote:
United1 wrote:
cosyr wrote:
Did anyone else know that they were removing seat back TV's on the Polaris 772's in Y?! :cry: :evil: I knew they were going to 10 across, but I just assumed they would be putting the same seats as the 77W's, not the HI birds. A leisure destination like HNL I get, but these 772's might fly to Australia on 15 hour flights! What are they thinking? :banghead:


They are getting a different type of Y class seat than the 77Ws but it will have AVOD...UA should be the first airline with B/Es Aspire Y class seats.

"The Aspire product line features more passenger living space with an increase in seat width over current generation seats. A key feature of the Aspire patented comfort system is an advanced kinematic mechanism that cradles the passenger during recline while preserving maximum living space for each passenger. Aspire also incorporates added under seat stowage and greater passenger living space due to the proprietary seat frame and leg structure. Passenger amenities combine the latest new generation Panasonic high definition monitor for In Flight Entertainment, a mid-level literature pocket combined with a full width single piece food tray, aft facing PC Power on all seat assemblies and ergonomic adjustable headrests."

Is that quote from something within United or from B/E's literature?


That's from a B/E press release announcing UA retrofitting Aspire on the 772 and installing them on the 78J/359 fleet.
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Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:53 am

audidudi wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
United1 wrote:
kaitakfan wrote:
Anyone have a heads up of when N66501 is due to exit HKG? Looks like she is up doing a test flight right now. Would love to get over there to fly her home.


I'm confused on what aircraft you are looking for...that N number is registered to a Cessna.


Test hop on the 8th, ETR Service on the 9th.

That's weird. The N number for 051 is N66501.

No it isn't! For the second time, N66501 is registered to a 1974 Cessna 150M. Exactly as noted in reply #628 above! The aircraft we are talking about is N66051.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66051


Talk about dyslexia, I sure stewed that up. Even looked at it. Yes you are correct, the N number is N66051. If all goes well on the test hop she should be back in service in a few days.
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The first UA 737 MAX has been painted!
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