787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2018

frigatebird · Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:13 pm

Would be nice if this became RAM's standard livery....

787Freak · Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:23 pm

frigatebird wrote:
Would be nice if this became RAM's standard livery....

It just might be. Over in the MAX thread, the first MAX for RAM has the same red paint on the base of the rudder.

qf789 · Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:23 pm

China Southern 789 LN787 has now been painted

https://twitter.com/boeingairplanes/sta ... 35904?s=21

Northwest1988 · Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:09 pm

Saw this bad boy doing touch and gos at GSP earlier today!

https://flightaware.com/photos/view/708 ... ate/page/1

Love the long look!

seabosdca · Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:31 pm

The 787-10 seen flying from a distance has more than a bit of "big 752" about it. I watched a lot of 787-10 approaches from my office window during the test program. It's a great-looking airplane.

iahcsr · Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:15 am

Northwest1988 wrote:
Saw this bad boy doing touch and gos at GSP earlier today!

https://flightaware.com/photos/view/708 ... ate/page/1

Love the long look!

N17002 will be UA’s second -10. Boeing was doing a final test flight before delivery.

qf789 · Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:51 am

Qantas 789 VH-ZNH has been delivered

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-znh

qf789 · Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:56 am

A couple more 787's delivered

Etihad 789 A6-BLV, F1 Livery

https://twitter.com/B787FlightTest/stat ... 9235900416

China Southern 789 B-1167

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/cz1167

shuck · Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:59 am

qf789 wrote:
Delivery ceremony for first Juneyao 789

https://twitter.com/ChinaAvReview/statu ... 3970219008

Please can anyone provide me with the Juneyao Airlines flight number for the delivery flight from PAE-PVG on October 19th 2018. Thanks

Dan23 · Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:22 am

shuck wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Delivery ceremony for first Juneyao 789

https://twitter.com/ChinaAvReview/statu ... 3970219008

Please can anyone provide me with the Juneyao Airlines flight number for the delivery flight from PAE-PVG on October 19th 2018. Thanks

It was DKH787.

shuck · Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:54 pm

Dan23 wrote:
shuck wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Delivery ceremony for first Juneyao 789

https://twitter.com/ChinaAvReview/statu ... 3970219008

Please can anyone provide me with the Juneyao Airlines flight number for the delivery flight from PAE-PVG on October 19th 2018. Thanks

It was DKH787.

Thanks

qf789 · Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:26 am

Royal Air Maroc 789 CN-RAM now out of paint

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/10 ... 5656801280

qf789 · Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:30 am

Hainan 789 B-207V (built in CHS) at Everett fuel dock

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/10 ... 4863550469

RobK · Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:09 am

RobK wrote:
Melb94 wrote:
RobK wrote:
The Uzbekistan Government 787 is now in a stall at PAE. Painted all white.

Going by the 787 production list, I presume its LN764 UK-78704? I thought it was for Uzbekistan Airways

All I'll say is that data differs from my own. Feel free to disregard.

And here it is !

https://flic.kr/p/2dcucpc

Painted at San Bernadino. I think this livery trumps Azerbaijan's for taking the top spot on the 787s. :yes:

seabosdca · Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:32 am

Uzbekistan's livery takes the concept of "flag carrier" a bit too literally. :vomit:

Devilfish · Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:56 pm

Way to ruin a beautiful plane..... :covereyes:

qf789 · Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:46 pm

First 789 for WestJet has rolled out of final assembly

https://twitter.com/propandkerosene/sta ... 5072234497

AAlaxfan · Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:23 pm

qf789 wrote:
First 789 for WestJet has rolled out of final assembly

https://twitter.com/propandkerosene/sta ... 5072234497

789? That's a 73...wait oh There it is, in the background! :lol:

cumulushumilis · Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:22 pm

qf789 wrote:
First 789 for WestJet has rolled out of final assembly

https://twitter.com/propandkerosene/sta ... 5072234497

Where are the powerplants?

ikolkyo · Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:28 pm

cumulushumilis wrote:
qf789 wrote:
First 789 for WestJet has rolled out of final assembly

https://twitter.com/propandkerosene/sta ... 5072234497

Where are the powerplants?

GEnx

CassidysVacay · Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:06 am

Etihad 787-10 A6-BMC will be their 3rd 78X. Test flight.

United's second 787-10 N17002 test flight.

https://twitter.com/cassidysvacay/statu ... 4346541056

seabosdca · Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:18 am

Love seeing all these CASM monsters flying around!

jeffrey0032j · Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:50 am

http://www.greenpnt.com/greenpoint-deli ... p-787-8-2/

Second VIP 787 by Greenpoint Tecnologies delivered, is this LN11?

817Dreamliiner · Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:15 pm

787 spreadsheet has been updated to LN900.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=2

First KLM Boeing 787-10 will be LN862
First Turkish Airlines Boeing 787-9 will be LN865
First Vietnam Airlines Boeing 787-10 will be LN880 via ALC
First Saudia Boeing 787-10 will be LN886 via Saudi Ministry of Finance.

ikolkyo · Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:55 pm

Nice to see the 787-10s starting coming through.

MileHFL400 · Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:42 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
Nice to see the 787-10s starting coming through.

Not so nice to see it’s not picking up orders the way it’s smaller brother is though.

airnorth · Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:55 pm

In the two pictures that CassidysVacay posted in post# 1071, the front landing gear doors are different in the two planes, and the rear landing gear are tipped back on Etihad, and forward on United, are they just in a different part of the landing phase? It almost seems like the United plane is not yet fully extended, yet they both appear to be landing, and obviously close to the ground.
Great pics by the way, really like the Etihad livery on all of their aircraft.

HeyTK · Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:50 pm

817Dreamliiner wrote:
First Turkish Airlines Boeing 787-9 will be LN865.

I cant wait for the Turkish 787 the roll out!! I wonder when that is.

audidudi · Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:56 pm

airnorth wrote:
In the two pictures that CassidysVacay posted in post# 1071, the front landing gear doors are different in the two planes, and the rear landing gear are tipped back on Etihad, and forward on United, are they just in a different part of the landing phase? It almost seems like the United plane is not yet fully extended, yet they both appear to be landing, and obviously close to the ground.
Great pics by the way, really like the Etihad livery on all of their aircraft.

I would assume that the UA bird is doing a go-around and has started to retract its undercarriage.

ikolkyo · Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:56 pm

airnorth wrote:
In the two pictures that CassidysVacay posted in post# 1071, the front landing gear doors are different in the two planes, and the rear landing gear are tipped back on Etihad, and forward on United, are they just in a different part of the landing phase? It almost seems like the United plane is not yet fully extended, yet they both appear to be landing, and obviously close to the ground.
Great pics by the way, really like the Etihad livery on all of their aircraft.

My guess is the UA aircraft is going around.

Speaking of said aircraft is has been delivered today.
https://fr24.com/UAL2706/1ebb758f

7BOEING7 · Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:07 pm

audidudi wrote:
airnorth wrote:
In the two pictures that CassidysVacay posted in post# 1071, the front landing gear doors are different in the two planes, and the rear landing gear are tipped back on Etihad, and forward on United, are they just in a different part of the landing phase? It almost seems like the United plane is not yet fully extended, yet they both appear to be landing, and obviously close to the ground.
Great pics by the way, really like the Etihad livery on all of their aircraft.

I would assume that the UA bird is doing a go-around and has started to retract its undercarriage.

If you look closely the TE flaps on the Etihad are fully extended for landing, so it will be doing a full stop (probably) whereas the United has only partial TE flaps indicating their gear configuration is due to an alternate gear extension so they can check the "TOO LOW GEAR" (and also the "TOO LOW FLAPS") caution followed by a go-around. If it had started a go-around the nose would have been pitched up -- want a positive rate before the gear comes up.

CassidysVacay · Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:58 pm

audidudi wrote:
airnorth wrote:
In the two pictures that CassidysVacay posted in post# 1071, the front landing gear doors are different in the two planes, and the rear landing gear are tipped back on Etihad, and forward on United, are they just in a different part of the landing phase? It almost seems like the United plane is not yet fully extended, yet they both appear to be landing, and obviously close to the ground.
Great pics by the way, really like the Etihad livery on all of their aircraft.

I would assume that the UA bird is doing a go-around and has started to retract its undercarriage.

You're right. UA was doing a missed approach but the gear wasn't retracting just yet. At that particular point in the photo they are about ~200 AGL and ~1800 ft. from the threshold.

Below you can see Etihad is in the go but the gear is still fully down. Here, they are probably just over the numbers. They usually go another several hundred feet before retracting. I've seen it too often.

CassidysVacay · Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:01 pm

7BOEING7 wrote:
audidudi wrote:
airnorth wrote:
In the two pictures that CassidysVacay posted in post# 1071, the front landing gear doors are different in the two planes, and the rear landing gear are tipped back on Etihad, and forward on United, are they just in a different part of the landing phase? It almost seems like the United plane is not yet fully extended, yet they both appear to be landing, and obviously close to the ground.
Great pics by the way, really like the Etihad livery on all of their aircraft.

I would assume that the UA bird is doing a go-around and has started to retract its undercarriage.

If you look closely the TE flaps on the Etihad are fully extended for landing, so it will be doing a full stop (probably) whereas the United has only partial TE flaps indicating their gear configuration is due to an alternate gear extension so they can check the "TOO LOW GEAR" (and also the "TOO LOW FLAPS") caution followed by a go-around. If it had started a go-around the nose would have been pitched up -- want a positive rate before the gear comes up.

You know your 787's 7BOEING7. All of what you said is correct. Full stop was performed by the Etihad and United was about to go around.

airnorth · Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:53 pm

7BOEING7 wrote:
audidudi wrote:
airnorth wrote:
In the two pictures that CassidysVacay posted in post# 1071, the front landing gear doors are different in the two planes, and the rear landing gear are tipped back on Etihad, and forward on United, are they just in a different part of the landing phase? It almost seems like the United plane is not yet fully extended, yet they both appear to be landing, and obviously close to the ground.
Great pics by the way, really like the Etihad livery on all of their aircraft.

I would assume that the UA bird is doing a go-around and has started to retract its undercarriage.

If you look closely the TE flaps on the Etihad are fully extended for landing, so it will be doing a full stop (probably) whereas the United has only partial TE flaps indicating their gear configuration is due to an alternate gear extension so they can check the "TOO LOW GEAR" (and also the "TOO LOW FLAPS") caution followed by a go-around. If it had started a go-around the nose would have been pitched up -- want a positive rate before the gear comes up.

Thanks for the information and keen eyes!

Momo1435 · Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:21 pm

817Dreamliiner wrote:
787 spreadsheet has been updated to LN900.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=2

First KLM Boeing 787-10 will be LN862
First Turkish Airlines Boeing 787-9 will be LN865
First Vietnam Airlines Boeing 787-10 will be LN880 via ALC
First Saudia Boeing 787-10 will be LN886 via Saudi Ministry of Finance.

It's not just the 1st 787-9 for TK in this update, it's the 1st 6 that they will get next year close after each other. Considering this is one of the more recent orders it's pretty much tells us that they got some of the extra 14 per month slots.

The update also show some direct orders from Suparna Airlines that have never been announced. There's also a unknown GECAS 787-9 delivery with the airline code CWY. GECAS converted 6 of their 787-10 to the 787-9 earlier this year in one go. 2 of those 787-9s will go to Suparna Airlines, this 3rd one with this de code CWY could be another Chinese airline, probably also one of the HNA Group airlines.

hkcanadaexpat · Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:04 pm

Momo1435 wrote:
The update also show some direct orders from Suparna Airlines that have never been announced.

This has sit as an Unidentified Customer for quite a while actually.

JayinKitsap · Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:01 am

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
The 1st 787 for Westjet in final assembly at Everett

Source: https://twitter.com/yyc_charles/status/1060359148531924992

In the 2nd picture, does anyone know if the saddles have any fasteners to the frame, is is suction say like the large building glazing lift cups, or just cushioned?

smittythepirate · Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:52 pm

JayinKitsap wrote:
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
The 1st 787 for Westjet in final assembly at Everett

Source: https://twitter.com/yyc_charles/status/1060359148531924992

In the 2nd picture, does anyone know if the saddles have any fasteners to the frame, is is suction say like the large building glazing lift cups, or just cushioned?

Should be just cushioned. With the weight of the plane it isn't going anywhere so no need for suctions.

MoonC · Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:03 pm

Is this one still going to the ROK?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/habujet/44336068960/

Interesting colour palette.

OA940 · Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:00 pm

How many -10s is Saudia due to take? When did they sign this deal? Is it a UFO?

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:14 pm

OA940 wrote:
How many -10s is Saudia due to take? When did they sign this deal? Is it a UFO?

UFO for 8 frames. 2x 2019. 2x2020. 4x 2021

Stitch · Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:41 pm

MoonC wrote:
Is this one still going to the ROK?

That looks to still be the plan. It was delivered to Boeing Business Jets in 2015 and then transferred to the Bank of Utah. It was undergoing conversion by Korean Airlines into a VIP frame at Moses Lake before moving in earlyNovember to San Bernardino for painting (likely in the ROK color scheme). Then it will be back to Moses Lake.

seabosdca · Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:05 am

Stitch wrote:
That looks to still be the plan. It was delivered to Boeing Business Jets in 2015 and then transferred to the Bank of Utah. It was undergoing conversion by Korean Airlines into a VIP frame at Moses Lake before moving in earlyNovember to San Bernardino for painting (likely in the ROK color scheme). Then it will be back to Moses Lake.

That picture is from today, post-painting. It sure doesn't look like any previous ROK color scheme - it's very "generic BBJ," with gray and black swoops.

EBJ68 · Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:41 am

MileHFL400 wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Nice to see the 787-10s starting coming through.

Not so nice to see it’s not picking up orders the way it’s smaller brother is though.

It's still early in the game. As information filters down regarding how well the airplane is performing in terms of passenger satisfaction, range and effciency specifications, etc. I suspect more orders wil follow. Even with more orders, there seems little doubt the 787-9 will be the major production model, the -10 being too big for many airlines.

Stitch · Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:45 am

seabosdca wrote:
That picture is from today, post-painting. It sure doesn't look like any previous ROK color scheme - it's very "generic BBJ," with gray and black swoops.

Frankly I find it a significant improvement on the scheme adorning their 747-400.

MoonC · Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:45 am

seabosdca wrote:
Stitch wrote:
That looks to still be the plan. It was delivered to Boeing Business Jets in 2015 and then transferred to the Bank of Utah. It was undergoing conversion by Korean Airlines into a VIP frame at Moses Lake before moving in earlyNovember to San Bernardino for painting (likely in the ROK color scheme). Then it will be back to Moses Lake.

That picture is from today, post-painting. It sure doesn't look like any previous ROK color scheme - it's very "generic BBJ," with gray and black swoops.

Hence my question if it was still going to the ROK.

SteelChair · Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:12 pm

Does anyone have a current breakdown of how cumulative engine selection stands? XX% GE. XX% RR?

Momo1435 · Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:22 pm

SteelChair wrote:
Does anyone have a current breakdown of how cumulative engine selection stands? XX% GE. XX% RR?

This how it stands right now (up to 31 September 2018)

It's pretty much 60/40 between GE and RR, with GE's share growing over the last couple of years.

Orders:
GE: 814 - 58%
RR: 451 - 32%
unknown: 138 - 10%
total: 1403

Deliveries:
GE: 458 - 61%
RR: 296 - 39%
total: 754

data from:
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/#/orders-deliveries

RobK · Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:48 pm

RR don't seem to be able to catch a break at the moment. Engines packed up on G-CKWP on Saturday afternoon as it was leaving on delivery. Couldn't get them fired up, dead! Towed back to a flight line stall and crew went back home.

seabosdca · Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:10 pm

Reminds me of '70s cars where parts would be falling off as the dealer pointed out the features to you in the delivery area.

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