Lexy wrote:

pdt2f wrote:

Lexy wrote:

I don't think NK would be successful on any of those routes. All have multiple flights on multiple carriers.

I think NK could be very successful on several of those routes. FLL could tap into their Caribbean network, MCO is a cash cow, WN is the only carrier that offers consistent, reliable service to LAS, and given the amount of interaction between Chicago and Nashville it’s surprising that there’s not a cheaper option to compete with AA, UA, and WN. F9 was only on that route for a short amount of time but they’re too flighty to base much on. Places like DTW, BWI, and DFW are mainly do-able because of their status as focus cities, along with somewhere like BWI or IAH. BOS I agree is well-served and probably not an option. NK also has a focus city in Atlantic City, and I wouldn’t normally say that it’s a option, but F9 runs a consistent flight to freaking Trenton so what do I know.

They'd be scrapping the absolute bottom of the barrel to get customers on those flights. I wouldn't call MCO a cash cow. That market is generally low yielding tourist. As for the others, yeah, I could possibly see DFW working, but people aren't falling over themselves to fly JUST TO DFW. They are connecting there by the plane loads. What NK offers is well covered from Dallas by both WN and AA. If they come in, they better be ready to lick icing off of the mixer cause there isn't much left.

pdt2f wrote:

Lexy wrote:

pdt2f wrote:

I think NK could be very successful on several of those routes. FLL could tap into their Caribbean network, MCO is a cash cow, WN is the only carrier that offers consistent, reliable service to LAS, and given the amount of interaction between Chicago and Nashville it’s surprising that there’s not a cheaper option to compete with AA, UA, and WN. F9 was only on that route for a short amount of time but they’re too flighty to base much on. Places like DTW, BWI, and DFW are mainly do-able because of their status as focus cities, along with somewhere like BWI or IAH. BOS I agree is well-served and probably not an option. NK also has a focus city in Atlantic City, and I wouldn’t normally say that it’s a option, but F9 runs a consistent flight to freaking Trenton so what do I know.

They'd be scrapping the absolute bottom of the barrel to get customers on those flights. I wouldn't call MCO a cash cow. That market is generally low yielding tourist. As for the others, yeah, I could possibly see DFW working, but people aren't falling over themselves to fly JUST TO DFW. They are connecting there by the plane loads. What NK offers is well covered from Dallas by both WN and AA. If they come in, they better be ready to lick icing off of the mixer cause there isn't much left.

Haha isn’t that kind of NK in a nutshell though? They’re not fighting AA and DL for business pax or WN for Williamson county families, they’re after those who want to fly for cheap as hell. They’re after Jim and Barbara from Hohenwald who want to stay at the MGM Grand in Vegas for their 20th anniversary, or Rafael y Juan Pablo who want to visit their abuella in Houston. Those low yielding tourists are their target market.

pdt2f wrote:

Lexy wrote:

pdt2f wrote:

I think NK could be very successful on several of those routes. FLL could tap into their Caribbean network, MCO is a cash cow, WN is the only carrier that offers consistent, reliable service to LAS, and given the amount of interaction between Chicago and Nashville it’s surprising that there’s not a cheaper option to compete with AA, UA, and WN. F9 was only on that route for a short amount of time but they’re too flighty to base much on. Places like DTW, BWI, and DFW are mainly do-able because of their status as focus cities, along with somewhere like BWI or IAH. BOS I agree is well-served and probably not an option. NK also has a focus city in Atlantic City, and I wouldn’t normally say that it’s a option, but F9 runs a consistent flight to freaking Trenton so what do I know.

They'd be scrapping the absolute bottom of the barrel to get customers on those flights. I wouldn't call MCO a cash cow. That market is generally low yielding tourist. As for the others, yeah, I could possibly see DFW working, but people aren't falling over themselves to fly JUST TO DFW. They are connecting there by the plane loads. What NK offers is well covered from Dallas by both WN and AA. If they come in, they better be ready to lick icing off of the mixer cause there isn't much left.

Haha isn’t that kind of NK in a nutshell though? They’re not fighting AA and DL for business pax or WN for Williamson county families, they’re after those who want to fly for cheap as hell. They’re after Jim and Barbara from Hohenwald who want to stay at the MGM Grand in Vegas for their 20th anniversary, or Rafael y Juan Pablo who want to visit their abuella in Houston. Those low yielding tourists are their target market.

tys777 wrote:

pdt2f wrote:

Lexy wrote:

They'd be scrapping the absolute bottom of the barrel to get customers on those flights. I wouldn't call MCO a cash cow. That market is generally low yielding tourist. As for the others, yeah, I could possibly see DFW working, but people aren't falling over themselves to fly JUST TO DFW. They are connecting there by the plane loads. What NK offers is well covered from Dallas by both WN and AA. If they come in, they better be ready to lick icing off of the mixer cause there isn't much left.

Haha isn’t that kind of NK in a nutshell though? They’re not fighting AA and DL for business pax or WN for Williamson county families, they’re after those who want to fly for cheap as hell. They’re after Jim and Barbara from Hohenwald who want to stay at the MGM Grand in Vegas for their 20th anniversary, or Rafael y Juan Pablo who want to visit their abuella in Houston. Those low yielding tourists are their target market.

Hey now! I enjoy NK for their big front seats. Except that one time I got bumped for an air marshal, but whatever. I'd take them over F9 or SY.

In reality, I love sitting near an NK gate area as it is one of the most random collections of travelers that one will find. I have my doubts that its NK coming to BNA, but we will find out soon enough and I'd love to be wrong.

runner13 wrote:

Always possible, but that brings nothing to the table and I think their STL flights are struggling a bit from what I've heard. Granted there's more tourist draw in BNA right now than STL.

Cue the St. Louis is better than Nashville argument.

southwest1675 wrote:

Anyone thought of Aeromexico or Volaris?

southwest1675 wrote:

Anyone thought of Aeromexico or Volaris?

southwest1675 wrote:

Anyone thought of Aeromexico or Volaris?

southwest1675 wrote:

I also found LAX.

southwest1675 wrote:

I also found LAX.

Jshank83 wrote:

tys777 wrote:

They just commented that it is a new airline.

That narrows it down then. I'll stick with Sun Country because I said it first but this is TATL time so that wouldn't surprise me.

Jshank83 wrote:

Jshank83 wrote:

tys777 wrote:

They just commented that it is a new airline.

That narrows it down then. I'll stick with Sun Country because I said it first but this is TATL time so that wouldn't surprise me.

Never a doubt... haha. Interesting to see them go big out of the gate to 6 destinations.

DakotaFlyer wrote:

Guess wait and see how SWA responds.

DakotaFlyer wrote:

Guess wait and see how SWA responds.

Jshank83 wrote:

DakotaFlyer wrote:

Guess wait and see how SWA responds.

I am curious also but 2x a week probably isn't going to make them flinch much. They have brand recognition and I would guess most people that aren't into aviation don't really have a clue who Sun Country is (outside of MSP and some other markets). Hopefully Sun Country puts some effort into marketing.

DakotaFlyer wrote:

Now just need Sun Country in Fargo and it will make my 2x a year trips to BNA a bit more affordable

southwest1675 wrote:

I’m curious to see how Southwest responds to G4 maturing in the market, as well as now SY coming to town. Next year at BNA might be interesting.

tys777 wrote:

I think that having these two ULCC's means that BNA is probably going to be waiting a good long time for NK. Just not sure what is left for them.

Also, I haven't dived into the schedules much, is there enough room for them to gate share with G4 or someone else? Or is this going to require a separate gate?

tys777 wrote:

I think that having these two ULCC's means that BNA is probably going to be waiting a good long time for NK. Just not sure what is left for them.

Also, I haven't dived into the schedules much, is there enough room for them to gate share with G4 or someone else? Or is this going to require a separate gate?

tys777 wrote:

I think that having these two ULCC's means that BNA is probably going to be waiting a good long time for NK. Just not sure what is left for them.

runner13 wrote:

Always possible, but that brings nothing to the table and I think their STL flights are struggling a bit from what I've heard. Granted there's more tourist draw in BNA right now than STL.

Cue the St. Louis is better than Nashville argument.

LHRFlyer wrote:

The CAA stats for June show that LHR-BNA is performing well, and ahead of LHR-MSY in terms of passenger numbers:

http://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/ ... alysis.pdf

8,777 passengers flew in both directions between LHR and BNA.

8,048 passengers flew in both directions between LHR and MSY.

Based on 22 return flights for LHR-BNA and 23 return flights for LHR-MSY and a seat capacity of 214 seats on the 787-8 that’s an average of 199 passengers per flight on LHR-BNA and 175 passengers per flight on LHR-MSY. Load factors of 93% and 82% respectively.

What’s also noteworthy is the performance of the growth of MSY year on year (5,863 to 8,048) suggesting considerable scope for BNA to grow.


(Excuse my maths if I’ve got this wrong!)

LHRFlyer wrote:

The CAA stats for June show that LHR-BNA is performing well, and ahead of LHR-MSY in terms of passenger numbers:

http://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/ ... alysis.pdf

8,777 passengers flew in both directions between LHR and BNA.

8,048 passengers flew in both directions between LHR and MSY.

Based on 22 return flights for LHR-BNA and 23 return flights for LHR-MSY and a seat capacity of 214 seats on the 787-8 that’s an average of 199 passengers per flight on LHR-BNA and 175 passengers per flight on LHR-MSY. Load factors of 93% and 82% respectively.

What’s also noteworthy is the performance of the growth of MSY year on year (5,863 to 8,048) suggesting considerable scope for BNA to grow.


(Excuse my maths if I’ve got this wrong!)

Midwestindy wrote:

LHRFlyer wrote:

The CAA stats for June show that LHR-BNA is performing well, and ahead of LHR-MSY in terms of passenger numbers:

http://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/ ... alysis.pdf

8,777 passengers flew in both directions between LHR and BNA.

8,048 passengers flew in both directions between LHR and MSY.

Based on 22 return flights for LHR-BNA and 23 return flights for LHR-MSY and a seat capacity of 214 seats on the 787-8 that’s an average of 199 passengers per flight on LHR-BNA and 175 passengers per flight on LHR-MSY. Load factors of 93% and 82% respectively.

What’s also noteworthy is the performance of the growth of MSY year on year (5,863 to 8,048) suggesting considerable scope for BNA to grow.


(Excuse my maths if I’ve got this wrong!)

Good news for BNA, already surpassing SJC and MSY

EvanWSFO wrote:

Not shocked, but will be interesting to see how SY's new ULCC model will play in Nashville. Seems NK will be the last one to the dance.

msycajun wrote:

Midwestindy wrote:

LHRFlyer wrote:

The CAA stats for June show that LHR-BNA is performing well, and ahead of LHR-MSY in terms of passenger numbers:

http://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/ ... alysis.pdf

8,777 passengers flew in both directions between LHR and BNA.

8,048 passengers flew in both directions between LHR and MSY.

Based on 22 return flights for LHR-BNA and 23 return flights for LHR-MSY and a seat capacity of 214 seats on the 787-8 that’s an average of 199 passengers per flight on LHR-BNA and 175 passengers per flight on LHR-MSY. Load factors of 93% and 82% respectively.

What’s also noteworthy is the performance of the growth of MSY year on year (5,863 to 8,048) suggesting considerable scope for BNA to grow.


(Excuse my maths if I’ve got this wrong!)

Good news for BNA, already surpassing SJC and MSY

Well in all fairness, it's worth noting that June seems to be BNA's busiest month, while it's something like 5th or 6th busiest for MSY (where spring and fall are more popular), plus we had Condor competing for European travelers over the summer. Also the year-over-year growth at MSY was in part due to going from 4 to 5 weekly. Still a good sign for BNA and I'd expect someone else to add soon.

Lexy wrote:

EvanWSFO wrote:

Not shocked, but will be interesting to see how SY's new ULCC model will play in Nashville. Seems NK will be the last one to the dance.

If they even decide to dance. It’s beyond me why they aren’t here already.

EvanWSFO wrote:

Lexy wrote:

EvanWSFO wrote:

Not shocked, but will be interesting to see how SY's new ULCC model will play in Nashville. Seems NK will be the last one to the dance.

If they even decide to dance. It’s beyond me why they aren’t here already.

I don't get it either. They could have announced just about any of the cities SY did and would probably do well.

southwest1675 wrote:

EvanWSFO wrote:

Lexy wrote:

If they even decide to dance. It’s beyond me why they aren’t here already.

I don't get it either. They could have announced just about any of the cities SY did and would probably do well.

As of now, I figure Spirit has no room to go here. They’d probably make a killing on BNA-DTW alone. They might be one of the first occupants of the new D Concourse unless WN calls dibs on it.