FGITD wrote:VS4ever wrote:
Makes sense. I feel like I've seen that space used for a number of things. Still, interesting that a runway is getting "usefulness" out of things that aren't takeoffs and landings.
Massport log jet activity and for 14/32 it gets used for departures around 1.5% of the time, probably higher for the props, but no data to support.
It’s a great space, I think they refer to it as the j pad. I’ve been over there on a B6 ORD departure when it got delayed for weather and a couple of times for deicing.
It is indeed the J pad. Not sure how they landed on that name. It's one of the few, unassigned spaces at the airport.
JetBlue actually uses the old eagle's nest terminal to deice, car wash style. Which revisits the entire purpose of that runway. Under the right circumstances, taxi to airborne in a matter of minutes would have been possible from that terminal.
These days I think the only use the terminal gets is deicers using the bathroom. Shame they can't move someone over there, but with all the sought after connections these days, it's extremely isolated.[/quote]
it is very isolated, and of course, no jetbridges and stuff. If you have ever been to AMS and used the KLM City Hopper E190's, KL park them like buses on an open apron, you literally navigate in, stop, let the first set of pax off, they take a bus to the terminal, 2nd set arrive, get on, and you pull forward out of the fake gate area and away you go. This could be a carbon copy of that, you could move one of the regional operations over there, and use buses from the main terminals. Not perfect, but it could be done and create space while you were at it. However i must say, I like everyone's creative thinking, wonder if Massport read this thread, lol...(if I see an L project in the next round of capital projects reporting, I suggest they might do, lol)...
Separately, i've been working on updating this report for a while now, it's still not complete, but it's in a place where it can be released while i finish up the work. Basically i've been recording all the Massport reports going back as far as they exist which is technically Jan 1998, and then grouping them in the usual formats.
What I have in the attached file is this (all updated through September) - Caveats included as needed.
Month by Month - Last 5 years - Pax and Freight
5 year hops - 1998 to 2018 all based on September (Pax and Freight)
Charts for various breakdowns so you can see the changes graphically - although because of the relative sizes (for example, really hard to chart GA or Charter, vs total domestic jet pax for example) it's not easy to chart everything, so i've left a few things out to make it all work.
YTD - Same except no charts as I have not completed every single month yet, I am about 4 years short of doing that.
Year - I forced the charts for this one, just shows what a rollercoaster ride it was until the last few years where it's up up and away.
Rolling - only done this for past 5 years.
As you will see, plenty of info here, for example, despite the growth of the past few years, we are still over 100,000 movements below 1998 levels, although a lot of that was down to tons of regional flying that used to happen back then. and the international explosion over the last 5 years, really quite incredible.
Anyway, i'll leave you the data to review and let me know if you have any questions. Enjoy..
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DrX4P ... -EJL4RQUIR