tphuang wrote:

tjerome wrote:

more often that not they are doing good on BOS-SFO in terms of load factor.

Just curious, what do you consider good load factor? BTS would show they have quite a bit lower LF than other carriers

Here is Q4.
BOSSFO
VX,58357,72281,80.74%
DL,30058,40760,73.74%
UA,169360,191562,88.41%
B6,88590,110028,80.52%

and this is Q1
BOSSFO
VX,39078,47833,81.70%
B6,103711,123024,84.30%
UA,120725,140514,85.92%
DL,20464,29767,68.75%

I'd say 70% is good enough for that route. I was thinking more in the recent months instead of 5-10 months ago. In the past 2 months or so I'd wager the LF% is higher than what you are showing for Q4.

tjerome wrote:

tphuang wrote:

tjerome wrote:

more often that not they are doing good on BOS-SFO in terms of load factor.

Just curious, what do you consider good load factor? BTS would show they have quite a bit lower LF than other carriers

Here is Q4.
BOSSFO
VX,58357,72281,80.74%
DL,30058,40760,73.74%
UA,169360,191562,88.41%
B6,88590,110028,80.52%

and this is Q1
BOSSFO
VX,39078,47833,81.70%
B6,103711,123024,84.30%
UA,120725,140514,85.92%
DL,20464,29767,68.75%

I'd say 70% is good enough for that route. I was thinking more in the recent months instead of 5-10 months ago. In the past 2 months or so I'd wager the LF% is higher than what you are showing for Q4.

As you can see, I also posted q1 numbers. It was 60% load factor for Jan and feb, 81% for March. I think that has more to do with demand of that month than anything else. The relative performance have not changed. We will have fare data in a month for q1. If you say 70% is good enough, then I am sure they are very happy then.

tphuang wrote:

tjerome wrote:

more often that not they are doing good on BOS-SFO in terms of load factor.

Just curious, what do you consider good load factor? BTS would show they have quite a bit lower LF than other carriers

Here is Q4.
BOSSFO
VX,58357,72281,80.74%
DL,30058,40760,73.74%
UA,169360,191562,88.41%
B6,88590,110028,80.52%

and this is Q1
BOSSFO
VX,39078,47833,81.70%
B6,103711,123024,84.30%
UA,120725,140514,85.92%
DL,20464,29767,68.75%

DL is definitely underperforming on SFO and has been cutting frequencies down to 1x day several days per week all spring. Its an important business market and therefore saying on the route will show how committed they are to Logan.

I checked the status of 3U and they are scheduled to start service to CTU and they are scheduled to start service to BOS Dec 17, 2018.

Other starts: LATAM in the next two quarters - July 1, 2018
B6 HAV - Nov 10, 2018
MEX - Oct 25, 2018

I did top 20 international routes out of BOS in 2018. These are airport specific so LGW/LHR and YYZ/YTZ are separate

1) LHR 798237
2) YYZ 494930
3)DUB 390989
4)CDG 364693
5)KEF 341240
6)AMS 285338
7)DXB 270196
8)FRA 259960
9)YTZ 204456
10) ZRH 173362
11)MUC 163828
12)LIS 162349
13)PEK 160136
14)HKG 155792
15)YUL 154983
16)AUA 151514
17)IST 140200
18)DOH 138078
19)LGW 135855
20) BDA 118397

For 2018 -

Will CDG reclaim #3? Most Likely with DY and PF. PF alone adds about 39K seats for half a year of service.
YUL, DXB, KEF will go down a bit
LGW, HKG, AUA should increase
Wild cards: anything LH group, DOH, IST (changed slighly YOY) and does MAD sneak into top 20 in either 2018 or 2019?

iyerhari wrote:

I checked the status of 3U and they are scheduled to start service to CTU and they are scheduled to start service to BOS Dec 17, 2018.

Other starts: LATAM in the next two quarters - July 1, 2018
B6 HAV - Nov 10, 2018
MEX - Oct 25, 2018

Add daily BOS-BUR - around 9/5/2018 and bi-weekly BOS-HDN 12/15/18

Also - there are rumors of DL studying BOS-OMA in OMA airport thread.

A one off EK 380 is en route right now and will land this afternoon. Hopefully some good photos and more of these flights to come later!

adamh8297 wrote:

I did top 20 international routes out of BOS in 2018. These are airport specific so LGW/LHR and YYZ/YTZ are separate

1) LHR 798237
2) YYZ 494930
3)DUB 390989
4)CDG 364693
5)KEF 341240
6)AMS 285338
7)DXB 270196
8)FRA 259960
9)YTZ 204456
10) ZRH 173362
11)MUC 163828
12)LIS 162349
13)PEK 160136
14)HKG 155792
15)YUL 154983
16)AUA 151514
17)IST 140200
18)DOH 138078
19)LGW 135855
20) BDA 118397

Is this O&D or enplanements? 341240 for KEF seems like a lot to be O&D unless they're counting the passengers on the stopover package as O&D.

I believe Silver also starts 7/1 with BOS-BHB

Latest Board meeting visuals through up some interesting stuff.
http://www.massport.com/media/2853/may- ... ermark.pdf

Automated People Mover being discussed (as an addition to or replacement of the bus service, not quite sure)
ORH hit 500,000 on 5/3 since B6 started service
CAT III landing now working B6 used it on 5/12
Inaugural ORH-JFK had 49 passengers.
No plan at BOS for the UK and DFW style pick up and drop off fees
Big April #'s for BOS with a record 151,000 passing through Logan on 4/11
Pax Count up 5% over 2017 YTD
Looks like they are trying to make money from the Logan App
Studying Remote Bag Check - Rental Care Terminal

Last night I was enjoying the view from the BA "cocktail lounge" and I really don't see how they can squeeze 3 more A380 gates in the area opposite the gas station. It already is super tight, considering the parked aircraft (TK, EK, JL) and the large ground space the BA aircraft occupied at E12.

airbazar wrote:

adamh8297 wrote:

I did top 20 international routes out of BOS in 2018. These are airport specific so LGW/LHR and YYZ/YTZ are separate

1) LHR 798237
2) YYZ 494930
3)DUB 390989
4)CDG 364693
5)KEF 341240
6)AMS 285338
7)DXB 270196
8)FRA 259960
9)YTZ 204456
10) ZRH 173362
11)MUC 163828
12)LIS 162349
13)PEK 160136
14)HKG 155792
15)YUL 154983
16)AUA 151514
17)IST 140200
18)DOH 138078
19)LGW 135855
20) BDA 118397

Is this O&D or enplanements? 341240 for KEF seems like a lot to be O&D unless they're counting the passengers on the stopover package as O&D.

Enplanements from T-100. O&D isn't free for me!

I understand how replacing the buses with a people mover would be nice. But I still wish it was post security instead. To allow for easier cross terminal connections.

pitbosflyer wrote:

I understand how replacing the buses with a people mover would be nice. But I still wish it was post security instead. To allow for easier cross terminal connections.

This I agree with, it would be good if they turned one track into a terminal loop to make that happen. Then you get the best of both worlds.

This is an interesting study and I believe almost looks like a RFI on the assessment study for the people mover project:
https://www.massport.com/capitalprogram ... tation.pdf

These projects will take a longtime for implementation IMO although I will add Massport has been efficient in implementing these projects and faster than MBTA.

As an example, the costs for linking North to South Station as per a recent article = min. $20B (WOW! Big Dig 2 - may only be theory in our lifetime!)
Green line extension to Medford and Somerville = $3.5B

iyerhari wrote:

This is an interesting study and I believe almost looks like a RFI on the assessment study for the people mover project:
https://www.massport.com/capitalprogram ... tation.pdf

Humm, about 8 or 9 years ago I posted this here on a.net.

The red line is a people mover. The blue areas are new terminal space. And notice the huge parking garage where today's consolidated car rental facility is.
Given the evolution to Logan airport since I'm starting to think I should be taking some credit for it
I thought I had lost that image for good after the migration to this new site but thanks to the Internet Wayback Machine I was able to recover it.

My opinion regarding this people mover however is that if they are really going to build it it should:
1) Be for both landside and airside use. A few airports around the world (FRA, SIN, etc), use a single line for both airside and landside by using segregated cars for each.
2) The line should loop by the Blue Line T stop.

Correction: I see that the google maps image is from 2011 so I must have made that drawing about 7 years ago.

ok, it's end of 2017 in T-100 international world, time to show the overall factors for routes for the year.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1an1JqH ... sp=sharing
file includes, inbound factors, outbound factors, total 17, total 16 and delta.
This is based on the raw data so some of the totals for the routes, may include charters and diverts. but should give you a directional idea on how the routes performed in 17.
Enjoy

tphuang wrote:

tjerome wrote:

tphuang wrote:

Just curious, what do you consider good load factor? BTS would show they have quite a bit lower LF than other carriers

Here is Q4.
BOSSFO
VX,58357,72281,80.74%
DL,30058,40760,73.74%
UA,169360,191562,88.41%
B6,88590,110028,80.52%

and this is Q1
BOSSFO
VX,39078,47833,81.70%
B6,103711,123024,84.30%
UA,120725,140514,85.92%
DL,20464,29767,68.75%

I'd say 70% is good enough for that route. I was thinking more in the recent months instead of 5-10 months ago. In the past 2 months or so I'd wager the LF% is higher than what you are showing for Q4.

As you can see, I also posted q1 numbers. It was 60% load factor for Jan and feb, 81% for March. I think that has more to do with demand of that month than anything else. The relative performance have not changed. We will have fare data in a month for q1. If you say 70% is good enough, then I am sure they are very happy then.

The proof will be in the pudding as they say. I am willing to bet that even if DL loses money on the route (say a small loss) or breaks even, they will keep it around given the fact that outside of NYC, no other East Coast market is as large and important than Boston - San Francisco and they'll need it to keep business contracts happy.

VS4ever wrote:

ok, it's end of 2017 in T-100 international world, time to show the overall factors for routes for the year.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1an1JqH ... sp=sharing
file includes, inbound factors, outbound factors, total 17, total 16 and delta.
This is based on the raw data so some of the totals for the routes, may include charters and diverts. but should give you a directional idea on how the routes performed in 17.
Enjoy

What sticks out to me the most is that the pax and load factors on BA's BOS-LHR increased. Not only impressive from a pax standpoint considering DY/DI came on BOS-LGW and has done very well, and both MT ('16 and '17) and VS ('17) entered BOS-MAN seasonally, but, from a load factor standpoint, BA brought on the A380, which I thought would most definitely hurt those numbers -- although in hindsight (if I recall correctly) the "A380 days" last year (Sunday/Monday/Friday) usually just saw three flights (772/A380/744) rather than the four that other days saw. Either way, when I saw that DY/DI/MT/VS were starting new BOS-UK routes, I thought BA might suffer a bit (while still keeping its #1 position in terms of BOS-LON flights) but it appears to have gone from strength to strength, although I suppose we'd have to see yields to confirm that.

First, I love the data analysis. I wish there was a license free version of QlikView / PowerBI / Tableau / SpotFire to make the analytics easier for you!

Delta and VS load factor to London were higher for the year than I anticipated - around 75%.

I’m going to spend more time with the file, because there are a bunch of things interesting, but my thoughts aren’t together yet.

tlecam wrote:

First, I love the data analysis. I wish there was a license free version of QlikView / PowerBI / Tableau / SpotFire to make the analytics easier for you!

Delta and VS load factor to London were higher for the year than I anticipated - around 75%.

I’m going to spend more time with the file, because there are a bunch of things interesting, but my thoughts aren’t together yet.

It's actually not that bad, the time is really down to the formatting, once i have that, it's a case of dropping the numbers in and away you go. That sheet took me less than an hour to complete starting from scratch (well really a format copy), and thanks for the support. I've been dealing with a ton of other stuff in my world, so i stopped doing the full analysis i was doing. I hope to start doing that again in a couple of months (fingers crossed).

I am still impressed that DY/DI (whichever code you want to use) was above 90% on average for the entire year on BOS-LGW. which also leads to this morning's news that they are going to go daily on that route, I fully expected them to do that, when they pulled OSL/CPH. They have done extremely well on that run, and they've increased the LON pax as a result as a whole. Question: anybody think they might want to go with a 2nd frequency, say 3x weekly? I know their financial situation is seen as highly precarious, but given their results on this route (assuming they are making money) might be worth considering.

I'll through it out to the audience, anyone else think certain routes could expand?
One note, look at the massive drop for SJU post hurricane, B6 are nowhere near back to their previous levels of service, so I wonder if we will ever see that return.

VS4ever wrote:

tlecam wrote:

I'll through it out to the audience, anyone else think certain routes could expand?

I could see TP adding an extra summer frequency. Could PF go daily on either route as well?

adamh8297 wrote:

VS4ever wrote:

tlecam wrote:

I'll through it out to the audience, anyone else think certain routes could expand?

I could see TP adding an extra summer frequency. Could PF go daily on either route as well?

In this weeks OAG thread, I saw that PF are going daily on EWR-STN and EWR-CDG and have upped IAD-STN as well, so they are clearly open to it, if they get the bookings.
TP was one, CX if they can find the equipment would be good too. on the other end, VS dropping MAN might have been thought about, but apparently they are increasing for 19. Be interesting to see what happens for them for 18, but we will have to wait until the end of the year to see that.

adamh8297 wrote:

VS4ever wrote:

tlecam wrote:

I'll through it out to the audience, anyone else think certain routes could expand?

I could see TP adding an extra summer frequency. Could PF go daily on either route as well?

TP has serious problems with the airport at LIS. Lack of slots and the airport itself is bursting at the seams with reports of really long wait times for immigration clearance. they're between a rock and hard place: Add more seats and risk even more bad press over the airport situation, or maintain the number of seats and watch IB grow. Personally I think that a good compromise for them would be to start adding a daytime flight because there are very few non-schengen arrivals in LIS at that time and therefore immigration should be relatively slow.

33lspotter wrote:

VS4ever wrote:

ok, it's end of 2017 in T-100 international world, time to show the overall factors for routes for the year.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1an1JqH ... sp=sharing
file includes, inbound factors, outbound factors, total 17, total 16 and delta.
This is based on the raw data so some of the totals for the routes, may include charters and diverts. but should give you a directional idea on how the routes performed in 17.
Enjoy

What sticks out to me the most is that the pax and load factors on BA's BOS-LHR increased. Not only impressive from a pax standpoint considering DY/DI came on BOS-LGW and has done very well, and both MT ('16 and '17) and VS ('17) entered BOS-MAN seasonally, but, from a load factor standpoint, BA brought on the A380, which I thought would most definitely hurt those numbers -- although in hindsight (if I recall correctly) the "A380 days" last year (Sunday/Monday/Friday) usually just saw three flights (772/A380/744) rather than the four that other days saw. Either way, when I saw that DY/DI/MT/VS were starting new BOS-UK routes, I thought BA might suffer a bit (while still keeping its #1 position in terms of BOS-LON flights) but it appears to have gone from strength to strength, although I suppose we'd have to see yields to confirm that.

In addition, the three 'A380 Days' in Boston this summer are accompanied by three other flights compared to two last year. So the numbers are looking really good when you might otherwise expect leakage to places like MAN and LGW. It wouldn't surprise me if BA went daily with the A380 S19 if they have enough frames to do it.

chrisnh wrote:

In addition, the three 'A380 Days' in Boston this summer are accompanied by three other flights compared to two last year. So the numbers are looking really good when you might otherwise expect leakage to places like MAN and LGW. It wouldn't surprise me if BA went daily with the A380 S19 if they have enough frames to do it.

I think it's entirely possible. Only thing is that I think BA has an interest in keeping the 744s on that route as long as possible given that they're gas-guzzlers (and that BOS is comparatively speaking a "short" 744 route) and that BOS is one of the places where the 86J is prudent. Maybe they would bring it back on the 202/203 slot like it was on last year.

Speaking of MAN-BOS. VS will also do 135 aka Mon/Wed/Fri in Summer 2019 interestingly matching MT's days of operating the route.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... s-in-2q19/

The friday departure is later too.

VS121 MAN1240 – 1510BOS 332 13
VS121 MAN1420 – 1650BOS 332 5

VS122 BOS1725 – 0500+1MAN 332 13
VS122 BOS1910 – 0645+1MAN 332 5

Out of curiosity do any of you know which gate boutique is using in Terminal B?

jworks158 wrote:

Out of curiosity do any of you know which gate boutique is using in Terminal B?

B29 - I just saw them take-off few mins. back. A small plane in the backdrop of the 737's and the A320s

BOS May-2018 numbers are out. Per Massport, DL lead over AA continues to grow and inline with becoming the 2nd largest carrier by pax and market share in BOS behind B6.

May-18 May-17 % change
Domestic Charter Passenger 2,288 1,350 69.48%
Domestic Commuter Passenger 183,165 159,967 14.50%
Domestic Jet Passenger 2,835,942 2,634,168 7.66%
Total Domestic 3,021,395 2,795,485 8.08%

International
Bermuda/Bahamas/Caribbean 88,707 92,611 -4.22%
Canada 99,275 88,216 12.54%
Central America 21,853 15,717 39.04%
Europe 352,228 355,018 -0.79%
Middle East 56,465 60,775 -7.09%
South America 3,869 -
Trans-Pacific 49,907 46,989 6.21%
Australia - -
North Africa - -
Other International - -
Total International 672,304 659,326 1.97%
General Aviation 11,430 10,534 8.51%
Domestic + International 3,705,129 3,465,345 6.92%

BOS YTD pax until May-2018: 15,592,530
International pax until May-2018: 2,754,604
International pax as a % of total pax: 17.67%

MSP YTD: 15,027,448 (behind BOS by (565,082)) - IAH has not posted their May-2018 numbers but IMO, BOS will come closer to IAH or may just sneak past IAH this year. Let's see!

Enjoy!!

On the back of the 17 International route numbers, i give you the 17 Domestic numbers, organized by route and airline with a 16-17 comparative for you too!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XYxgBH ... sp=sharing

iyerhari wrote:

BOS May-2018 numbers are out. Per Massport, DL lead over AA continues to grow and inline with becoming the 2nd largest carrier by pax and market share in BOS behind B6.

May-18 May-17 % change
Domestic Charter Passenger 2,288 1,350 69.48%
Domestic Commuter Passenger 183,165 159,967 14.50%
Domestic Jet Passenger 2,835,942 2,634,168 7.66%
Total Domestic 3,021,395 2,795,485 8.08%

International
Bermuda/Bahamas/Caribbean 88,707 92,611 -4.22%
Canada 99,275 88,216 12.54%
Central America 21,853 15,717 39.04%
Europe 352,228 355,018 -0.79%
Middle East 56,465 60,775 -7.09%
South America 3,869 -
Trans-Pacific 49,907 46,989 6.21%
Australia - -
North Africa - -
Other International - -
Total International 672,304 659,326 1.97%
General Aviation 11,430 10,534 8.51%
Domestic + International 3,705,129 3,465,345 6.92%

BOS YTD pax until May-2018: 15,592,530
International pax until May-2018: 2,754,604
International pax as a % of total pax: 17.67%

MSP YTD: 15,027,448 (behind BOS by (565,082)) - IAH has not posted their May-2018 numbers but IMO, BOS will come closer to IAH or may just sneak past IAH this year. Let's see!

Enjoy!!

8% YOY growth in Domestic is huge, was not expecting to see that even in a busy month like May, if June/July/Aug go the same way we will be looking at the first 4m pax month combined dom/int for sure. To put that into perspective Aug 17 is the all time largest month with 3,757,903 and was nearly 300k up over May 17's number shown above of 3,465,345. quite incredible.
A little strange was the small drop in Europe, be interesting to see how that plays out in the next couple of months, but big gains in Asia, Central America and Canada just goes from strength to strength. 12% is significant for that market.

For 2018 YTD, we are about 800K up on last year and the 2017 number represented about 39% of the total 2017 pax count, if we use the same metric, we are looking at a 40.5m number for 2018. Massport forecasted 41.1m, so almost certain we will hit 40m+ this year. amazing to think that just 5 years ago, everyone got excited because we just scraped into the 30m club.... Good times..

I agree with you. Domestic has been doing great and I believe with all the DL adds is fueling the acceleration.

2018 is not over yet and with all the new adds taking into account, I believe we may be able to touch 41+ million.

TACA to SAN
DL to PHL and some seasonal adds to LAS
B6 to BUR, HAV, MEX
TAM to GRU ( that’s next week)
3U to CTU ( last week of Dec but still in 2018)

Only one retrenchment so far for BOS to YUL on WS..

All great times for BOS - i somehow feel BOS may just sneak past IAH or come very close.

iyerhari wrote:

I agree with you. Domestic has been doing great and I believe with all the DL adds is fueling the acceleration.

2018 is not over yet and with all the new adds taking into account, I believe we may be able to touch 41+ million.

TACA to SAN
DL to PHL and some seasonal adds to LAS
B6 to BUR, HAV, MEX
TAM to GRU ( that’s next week)
3U to CTU ( last week of Dec but still in 2018)

Only one retrenchment so far for BOS to YUL on WS..

All great times for BOS - i somehow feel BOS may just sneak past IAH or come very close.

You meant TACA to Sal right?

Kno wrote:

You meant TACA to Sal right?

Sorry you are correct - it is SAL and not SAN.

How do we 'sneak past Houston' if they are #10 and we're #19? I understand sneaking past MSP, but IAH seems unreachable unless they fall off a cliff.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/busiest-airpo ... sa-3301020

This is dated info. As per 2017 totals between IAH, BOS and MSP. FYI, BOS has already overtaken MSP.

Rank Airport Total pax International pax Intl. pax % 2016 pax AAGR 2016 Rank
15 IAH 40,696,216 10,314,124 25.34% 41,692,372 -2.39% 14
16 BOS 38,412,419 7,163,020 18.65% 36,288,042 5.85% 17
17 MSP 38,034,341 2,951,166 7.76% 37,505,521 1.41% 16

Granted IAH had an issue in 2017 due to the storms that caused the drop, but considering that BOS moves to 41.5 million, BOS may come closer to IAH. MSP is behind BOS already.

Has anyone ever used CLEAR and have a good experience with that? I was in IAH today and I see Clear screens all over the place - incidentally BOS does not have CLEAR access lanes. Any insights on how good/bad they are? Does it work for international too if the port of entry airport has CLEAR?

Interestingly, Massport have Silver Airways for their BHB operation using Terminal E, they have managed to shoehorn them in for up to a 3 hour stint in the afternoon. Going to assume E1 will be the gate generally used.

VS4ever wrote:

Interestingly, Massport have Silver Airways for their BHB operation using Terminal E, they have managed to shoehorn them in for up to a 3 hour stint in the afternoon. Going to assume E1 will be the gate generally used.

Yikes seems like not the best use of space.

I’m sure its a remote operation busing passengers to a hardstand

pitbosflyer wrote:

VS4ever wrote:

Interestingly, Massport have Silver Airways for their BHB operation using Terminal E, they have managed to shoehorn them in for up to a 3 hour stint in the afternoon. Going to assume E1 will be the gate generally used.

Yikes seems like not the best use of space.

E1 is essentially a B6 gate isn't it? How heavily used is that gate in the afternoon given that it can't accommodate anything bigger than a 737/A320, IIRC?

chrisnh wrote:

How do we 'sneak past Houston' if they are #10 and we're #19? I understand sneaking past MSP, but IAH seems unreachable unless they fall off a cliff.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/busiest-airpo ... sa-3301020

The one airport I believe is going to go above BOS this year and probably at the rate it's progressing even IAH is FLL. FLL recorded 20.67% AAGR in 2017 and 2018 continues to see double digit growth.

airbazar wrote:

pitbosflyer wrote:

VS4ever wrote:

Interestingly, Massport have Silver Airways for their BHB operation using Terminal E, they have managed to shoehorn them in for up to a 3 hour stint in the afternoon. Going to assume E1 will be the gate generally used.

Yikes seems like not the best use of space.

E1 is essentially a B6 gate isn't it? How heavily used is that gate in the afternoon given that it can't accommodate anything bigger than a 737/A320, IIRC?

I have seen the Sata a310 and LYs 767 depart from down there but I don't know about anything bigger.

iyerhari wrote:

chrisnh wrote:

How do we 'sneak past Houston' if they are #10 and we're #19? I understand sneaking past MSP, but IAH seems unreachable unless they fall off a cliff.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/busiest-airpo ... sa-3301020

The one airport I believe is going to go above BOS this year and probably at the rate it's progressing even IAH is FLL. FLL recorded 20.67% AAGR in 2017 and 2018 continues to see double digit growth.

Is there any data on how FLL is doing this year so far in passenger numbers?
I know it had been growing rapidly, but I doubt it can sustain the pace for much longer before slowing down.

NickolayAv wrote:

iyerhari wrote:

chrisnh wrote:

How do we 'sneak past Houston' if they are #10 and we're #19? I understand sneaking past MSP, but IAH seems unreachable unless they fall off a cliff.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/busiest-airpo ... sa-3301020

The one airport I believe is going to go above BOS this year and probably at the rate it's progressing even IAH is FLL. FLL recorded 20.67% AAGR in 2017 and 2018 continues to see double digit growth.

Is there any data on how FLL is doing this year so far in passenger numbers?
I know it had been growing rapidly, but I doubt it can sustain the pace for much longer before slowing down.

They will also close the North runway for 5 months next year, for repairs which is expected to result in a loss of a million passengers.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/busine ... 55594.html

NickolayAv wrote:

iyerhari wrote:

chrisnh wrote:

How do we 'sneak past Houston' if they are #10 and we're #19? I understand sneaking past MSP, but IAH seems unreachable unless they fall off a cliff.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/busiest-airpo ... sa-3301020

The one airport I believe is going to go above BOS this year and probably at the rate it's progressing even IAH is FLL. FLL recorded 20.67% AAGR in 2017 and 2018 continues to see double digit growth.

Is there any data on how FLL is doing this year so far in passenger numbers?
I know it had been growing rapidly, but I doubt it can sustain the pace for much longer before slowing down.

Total pax
2017 2018
Jan 2,803,913 3,030,577 8.08%
Feb 2,614,564 2,854,417 9.17%
Mar 3,141,983 3,498,784 11.36%
Apr 2,945,163 3,106,361 5.47%
11,505,623 12,490,139 8.56%

FLL YTD 2018: 12,490,139
BOS YTD 2018 (until Apr-2018): 11,887,401

Granted BOS numbers see an uptick from April until Oct, FLL is showing good growth.

VS4ever wrote:

Interestingly, Massport have Silver Airways for their BHB operation using Terminal E, they have managed to shoehorn them in for up to a 3 hour stint in the afternoon. Going to assume E1 will be the gate generally used.

When PenAir put in their EAS BOS bid for PQI/BHB/PBG they stated that they would have to relocate:

"With respect to BOS, American Airlines has notified PenAir that it will no longer
be able to operate from its space in Terminal B at BOS. Massport can only
accommodate PenAir in Terminal E, and, indeed, Massport has informed PenAir that
any other non-jetway aircraft (like the Saab 340) would also be required to operate out
of Terminal E."

So this looks to be an overarching Massport policy.

BA is reducing A380 service at LAX next summer from 2 to 1 daily. Could be the first step in seeing it go daily here?

LATAM maiden flight from GRU to BOS is enroute now and delayed by 5 hours 42 minutes expected to land at 2:42 pm EST. Finally a new South America add!

iyerhari wrote:

LATAM maiden flight from GRU to BOS is enroute now and delayed by 5 hours 42 minutes expected to land at 2:42 pm EST. Finally a new South America add!

Excited about the add but a nearly 6 hour delay on the maiden flight, that's nuts, certainly won't be arriving to the quieter Terminal E the original timing would normally get. Any word on what caused it?

VS4ever wrote:

iyerhari wrote:

LATAM maiden flight from GRU to BOS is enroute now and delayed by 5 hours 42 minutes expected to land at 2:42 pm EST. Finally a new South America add!

Excited about the add but a nearly 6 hour delay on the maiden flight, that's nuts, certainly won't be arriving to the quieter Terminal E the original timing would normally get. Any word on what caused it?

Both Flightaware and flightradar24 show it arriving in 10 minutes:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/TAM ... /SBGR/KBOS
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/jj8164