hisham wrote:There’s a Royal Jordanian jet at BOS now. Any idea why?
Probably a diversion. Must be a great find for BOS planespotters.
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hisham wrote:There’s a Royal Jordanian jet at BOS now. Any idea why?
tlecam wrote:The DL flight to LAS is an odd one to me. I honestly don’t much about the LAS market, but my assumption is that it’s largely leisure travel.
tlecam wrote:The average fares don’t seem too high.
NickolayAv wrote:Does anyone know when the Royal Jordanian will be departing from BOS? and why it diverted to BOS?
FGITD wrote:NickolayAv wrote:Does anyone know when the Royal Jordanian will be departing from BOS? and why it diverted to BOS?
Not sure why it came, but it was a fairly quick stop.
More talk today of the second a380 today. It's coming, and sooner than I thought. Interestingly, no official announcement yet though.
FGITD wrote:NickolayAv wrote:Does anyone know when the Royal Jordanian will be departing from BOS? and why it diverted to BOS?
Not sure why it came, but it was a fairly quick stop.
More talk today of the second a380 today. It's coming, and sooner than I thought. Interestingly, no official announcement yet though.
tlecam wrote:The DL flight to LAS is an odd one to me. I honestly don’t much about the LAS market, but my assumption is that it’s largely leisure travel. The average fares don’t seem too high. It just seems like there are better things Delta could do with a 738. On the other hand, it’s probably a dot they have to connect if Boston is an “important city” or hub or whatever, and they aren’t going up against AA or UA on it, unlike Chicago, Dallas, Charlotte etc..
tlecam wrote:The DL flight to LAS is an odd one to me. I honestly don’t much about the LAS market, but my assumption is that it’s largely leisure travel. The average fares don’t seem too high. It just seems like there are better things Delta could do with a 738. On the other hand, it’s probably a dot they have to connect if Boston is an “important city” or hub or whatever, and they aren’t going up against AA or UA on it, unlike Chicago, Dallas, Charlotte etc..
FGITD wrote:NickolayAv wrote:Does anyone know when the Royal Jordanian will be departing from BOS? and why it diverted to BOS?
Not sure why it came, but it was a fairly quick stop.
More talk today of the second a380 today. It's coming, and sooner than I thought. Interestingly, no official announcement yet though.
chrisnh wrote:FGITD wrote:NickolayAv wrote:Does anyone know when the Royal Jordanian will be departing from BOS? and why it diverted to BOS?
Not sure why it came, but it was a fairly quick stop.
More talk today of the second a380 today. It's coming, and sooner than I thought. Interestingly, no official announcement yet though.
People here would faint if it turned out to be LH from MUC
VS4ever wrote:I think i would need Mrs. VS to head to Walgreens and buy some smelling salts if that happened, always would have thought FRA, but given the switch of most of the 380's to MUC, much more likely, although do they need that kind of capacity?
airbazar wrote:tlecam wrote:The DL flight to LAS is an odd one to me. I honestly don’t much about the LAS market, but my assumption is that it’s largely leisure travel.
I think that's a misconception. Vegas is a gigantic convention destination. It's not by coincidence that B6 has Mint in the BOS-LAS route.
chrisnh wrote:FGITD wrote:NickolayAv wrote:Does anyone know when the Royal Jordanian will be departing from BOS? and why it diverted to BOS?
Not sure why it came, but it was a fairly quick stop.
More talk today of the second a380 today. It's coming, and sooner than I thought. Interestingly, no official announcement yet though.
People here would faint if it turned out to be LH from MUC
hinckley wrote:airbazar wrote:DL - JFK, ATL, DTW, MSP, SLC, LAX, SEA
iyerhari wrote:Delta is continuing its investment in Boston by reaching 112 peak day departures by this summer, an increase of 19 departures compared with summer 2017 and 29 departures over summer 2016. Delta and its partners serve 50 total destinations from Boston, including 17 international destinations and the largest transatlantic network.
This is really interesting! They are sneaking closer and closer to B6 and once they get the complete Terminal A in June-2019, they will shoot up. It can be reasonably stated that any flight destination terminated by AA read the AAE destinations - MDT, ROC will be taken over by DL. Would that be a safe statement to state?
tlecam wrote:Even more interesting that they have the LAS flight leaving/arriving during peak times. I was recently flying to LGA on a Wednesday evening and I’ve never seen Terminal A so busy. Every gate was in use, people everywhere. In a way, good to see; sign of health.
VS4ever wrote:Not so fast Batman.. While you are correct that DL will up its game after June 2019 when it wants to get to 150 per day average, that's an increase of 38 over the 112 in the summer, with 5 additional gates available to them, that's about 7.5 turns a day and that's on the higher side for DL, especially if they decide to run any more TATL stuff, so ironically the number of departures out of A will overall decrease slightly because WN currently are in the 9-11 range per gate.
thewizbizman wrote:hinckley wrote:airbazar wrote:DL - JFK, ATL, DTW, MSP, SLC, LAX, SEA
LGA for Delta as well.
Besides the point, I think we will see a bit more of growth from Delta in either Boston or New York-JFK, I think they will want to take at least one of them back from JetBlue, I mean it would be powerful to control at least one major airport in that area. Jetblue controls two.
VS4ever wrote:
Not so fast Batman.. While you are correct that DL will up its game after June 2019 when it wants to get to 150 per day average, that's an increase of 38 over the 112 in the summer, with 5 additional gates available to them, that's about 7.5 turns a day and that's on the higher side for DL, especially if they decide to run any more TATL stuff, so ironically the number of departures out of A will overall decrease slightly because WN currently are in the 9-11 range per gate.
However at the same time. B6 will get access to the remaining gates in C as AS/VX and SY move out, their goal is to get to 200. so there will still be a significant gap between the two unless DL continue to move towards higher capacity flights with 738's and 320's and slowly phase out the RJ's. Even then it will still be a pretty sizeable gap.
Capn wrote:When I look at the Google map of concourse A, it appears that there is perhaps some room to put a couple more jetways ( maybe for RJs only ) in the corner between A and B.
Could one of you folks that are familiar with BOS tell me what you think.
Thanks
tlecam wrote:Even more interesting that they have the LAS flight leaving/arriving during peak times. I was recently flying to LGA on a Wednesday evening and I’ve never seen Terminal A so busy. Every gate was in use, people everywhere. In a way, good to see; sign of health.
Whoever is managing the gate logistics deserves a medal.
Kno wrote:Capn wrote:When I look at the Google map of concourse A, it appears that there is perhaps some room to put a couple more jetways ( maybe for RJs only ) in the corner between A and B.
Could one of you folks that are familiar with BOS tell me what you think.
Thanks
Capn wrote:Kno wrote:Capn wrote:When I look at the Google map of concourse A, it appears that there is perhaps some room to put a couple more jetways ( maybe for RJs only ) in the corner between A and B.
Could one of you folks that are familiar with BOS tell me what you think.
Thanks
That space is really maxed out, it used to be more gates with only rjs over there and now they park 737s and a320s there as well.
Plus those b gates where AC parks are tight fits as well. That is being remodeled but I think there will still be little room to expand.
Most of deltas gates on the main terminal and the satellite terminal that handle widebody jets block an extra gate. I assume when they get some gates back from southwest they can make a19 a widebody gate again (it used to fit 764s without blocking) and that will free up a couple gates.[/quote
Kno,
Thank you very much for your informative reply, sounds like you are definitely " in the know " pun intended.
Are there any other possibilities for expansion ?
Would it be feasible for DL. to try to get some gates in B ?
Kno wrote:Capn wrote:Kno wrote:
That space is really maxed out, it used to be more gates with only rjs over there and now they park 737s and a320s there as well.
Plus those b gates where AC parks are tight fits as well. That is being remodeled but I think there will still be little room to expand.
Most of deltas gates on the main terminal and the satellite terminal that handle widebody jets block an extra gate. I assume when they get some gates back from southwest they can make a19 a widebody gate again (it used to fit 764s without blocking) and that will free up a couple gates.[/quote
Kno,
Thank you very much for your informative reply, sounds like you are definitely " in the know " pun intended.
Are there any other possibilities for expansion ?
Would it be feasible for DL. to try to get some gates in B ?
Thanks! It is my hometown airport after all, but I must admit I don't have any insider info - just a lot of research on the operations there.
There are renovations going on at B but I forget off the top of my head who will be there. I think the idea is that Southwest will move to the old AA area, which they still currently use, and AA will finally consolidate on the US side (they're still separate, and you have to pay attention to which gate your flight leaves from if you want to check in in the right area, or else you're in for a long long walk through uniteds part of the terminal).
Once Southwest is out of A DL will be able to regain the gates they occupy in the satellite terminal. In the prior configuration these gates all handled as big as 757s with A19 being used for planes as big as 764s, wouldn't be surprised if they return to that configuration but who knows. It seems to me if they could configure the gates to handle more widebodies without blocking additional gates they'd be in better shape for the afternoon rush and international connections so A19 should be useful. I'm honestly surprised they didn't build more widebody gates when they built the terminal since they used to fly a lot of 767s here when it first opened and when they were in C AF and various skyteam partners had 747s,777s, a340s, md11s etc at Delta gates. When terminal A opened they kept the international partners separate at E... On another note man I really miss the 90s and early 00s when terminal C was exciting and bursting at the seams with DL widebodies, 727s, 757s, and md80s. So boring seeing nothing but Jetblue planes there with the occasional shamrock a330 or TAP a330.
aaflyer777 wrote:Anyone know whats going on with AC? According to the slides it looks like they're staying put and sharing their gates with AA, wouldn't it make more sense to move them closer to UA?
VS4ever wrote:Also, everyone might want to take a look at this deck with the capital plans and focus on ORH, huge amount of useful info here
http://www.massport.com/media/2729/0218 ... -final.pdf
VS4ever wrote:Also, everyone might want to take a look at this deck with the capital plans and focus on ORH, huge amount of useful info here
http://www.massport.com/media/2729/0218 ... -final.pdf
RL757PVD wrote:A 73% increase in Terminal E costs in the next 5 years.... good luck to the international ULCC's with that.
Capn wrote:I have to complement all you posters on this BOS thread. You all keep it interesting and up to date.it is one of my favorites and always look forward to new posts. You all always answer my questions with great info.
I am an unabashed DELTA fan boy even though I took an early retirement from NW (22years ago ) so way before the merger. As a long time Av geek I just think that they are doing an incredible job running DELTA, the fact that they administer my pension and all our benefits doesn't hurt.
Will look forward to all your future posts...
VS4ever wrote:Capn wrote:I have to complement all you posters on this BOS thread. You all keep it interesting and up to date.it is one of my favorites and always look forward to new posts. You all always answer my questions with great info.
I am an unabashed DELTA fan boy even though I took an early retirement from NW (22years ago ) so way before the merger. As a long time Av geek I just think that they are doing an incredible job running DELTA, the fact that they administer my pension and all our benefits doesn't hurt.
Will look forward to all your future posts...
I am sure i speak for my fellow folks and say thank you for the kind words. I freely admit right now I am behind on posting a lot of the numbers, due to work and personal issues, but promise to catch up soon once I can come up for air.
tlecam wrote:LOL. Including me. Same if it’s AF / CDG.
The 380 is the one modern plane that I haven’t yet flown on. This should improve my chances.
33lspotter wrote:tlecam wrote:LOL. Including me. Same if it’s AF / CDG.
The 380 is the one modern plane that I haven’t yet flown on. This should improve my chances.
That would be quite the surprise. IIRC they don’t have many A380s as it is and with DY getting in on the route I can’t imagine load factors would warrant it (both now and then).
hisham wrote:Does anyone now where I can find data on which hours of the day BOS has more arrivals than departures and vice-versa?
Regards,
hisham wrote:Thanks. I did pay and got the info. As a non hub airport, it I should have predicted it. There are no arrival or departure banks at BOS. Pretty much uniform for the whole day.
VS4ever wrote:hisham wrote:Thanks. I did pay and got the info. As a non hub airport, it I should have predicted it. There are no arrival or departure banks at BOS. Pretty much uniform for the whole day.
Doesn't surprise me, although I would expect to see a slightly higher number of departures in the am (given all the RON's that have to get out of there) and higher number of departures in the pm for the opposite reason.
bacchus101 wrote:Boston's PenAir hub is done as of June 30th.
https://bangordailynews.com/2018/03/21/ ... r-service/
I guess it's down to Cape Air as the last Logan hub airline.