LAX772LR wrote:

msycajun wrote:

Someone can probably elaborate, but a lot of the current jetways are owned by the airlines, not the airport.

The airport owns 29 of the 35 existing bridges.

Only two airlines own any of them: WN (4) and DL (2).

Just curious, but could you talk about how two carriers came to own jetbridges, with the airport owning the rest? Was modernization needed when the airport didn’t have necessary funds? Or did the carriers just decide they didn’t like existing jetbridges and/or they weren’t appropriate for different aircraft (unlikely with WN but with delta RJ, I could sort of see that).

Nola wrote:

Just curious, but could you talk about how two carriers came to own jetbridges, with the airport owning the rest?

Um, with words?

Nola wrote:

Was modernization needed when the airport didn’t have necessary funds? Or did the carriers just decide they didn’t like existing jetbridges and/or they weren’t appropriate for different aircraft (unlikely with WN but with delta RJ, I could sort of see that).

I'm not familiar with why that's the arrangement, just know that it's the current status as it stands. Not even sure if it carries over to the north terminal.

do we have any drawings for the new east garage at the north terminal?

None that I've seen. It's a parking garage, so not expecting anything different from the one to the north of the terminal.

NolaMD88fan wrote:

None that I've seen. It's a parking garage, so not expecting anything different from the one to the north of the terminal.

Will this garage be long term parking (with a lower daily rate than the original North Terminal Garage)? Will the new garage be connected to the terminal directly or through the North Terminal Garage?

Nola wrote:

NolaMD88fan wrote:

None that I've seen. It's a parking garage, so not expecting anything different from the one to the north of the terminal.

Will this garage be long term parking (with a lower daily rate than the original North Terminal Garage)? Will the new garage be connected to the terminal directly or through the North Terminal Garage?

Have no clue honestly since no plans have been shared with the public.

Some more aerials of the new terminal shared on the local spotters page. Taken June 4th.

Looking east


Looking south


Looking west


Looking north

Year end 2017 international and 1st Quarter 2018 domestic load factors and passenger numbers by route calculated. UA's MSY-DEN had the highest load factor in March at 93.3%, and NK's MSY-CLE had the lowest load factor at 67.1%. Through the 1st quarter...WN's MSY-DEN had the highest load factor at 92.6%, and NK's MSY-BOS had the lowest load factor at 61.3%.

Some new routes started. NK to CMH and WN to CLE, BOS, SMF.

Routes of interest:

Domestic (March 2018)
SFO (VX/AS) = Mar. load factor of 83.4%...Q1 of 77.7%
SFO (UA) = Mar. load factor of 81%...Q1 of 82.6%

CLE (NK) = Mar. load factor of 67.1%...Q1 of 63.8%
CLE (WN) = Mar. load factor of 78.8%
CLE (G4) = Mar. load factor of 79.6%...Q1 of 77.3%

BOS (NK) = Mar. load factor of 84.7%...Q1 of 61.3%
BOS (WN) = Mar. load factor of 89.1%
BOS (DL) = Mar. load factor of 82.6%...Q1 of 80.1%
BOS (B6) = Mar. load factor of 89%...Q1 of 82.5%

TPA (NK) = Mar. load factor of 80.9%...Q1 of 70.1%
TPA (WN) = Mar. load factor of 77.1%...Q1 of 70.1%
PIE (G4) = Mar. load factor of 76.1%...Q1 of 66.6%

CMH (NK) = Mar. load factor of 72.2%
CMH (WN) = Mar. load factor of 75.6%...Q1 of 70.5%
LCK (G4) = Mar. load factor of 76.1%...Q1 of 70.2%

PIT (WN) = Mar. load factor of 80.2%...Q1 of 73.2%
PIT (G4) = Mar. load factor of 86.3%...Q1 of 78.7%

IND (WN) = Mar. load factor of 81.3%...Q1 of 74.7%
IND (G4) = Mar. load factor of 86.1%...Q1 of 76.2%

RDU (WN) = Mar. load factor of 85.6%...Q1 of 73.7%
RDU (G4) = Mar. load factor of 87.1%...Q1 of 75.9%

SEA (AS) = Mar. load factor of 92.7%...Q1 of 90.2%
SEA (DL) = Mar. load factor of 87.3%...Q1 of 89%

SMF (WN) = Mar. load factor of 72.8%.

International (December 2017)
LHR (BA) = Dec. load factor of 73.4%...Annual of 76.7%
PTY (CM) = Dec. load factor of 80.8%...Annual of 77%
YYZ (AC) = Dec. load factor of 66.9%...Annual of 81.9%
CUN (DL) = Dec. load factor of 80.7%...Annual of 73.9%

Domestic
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

International
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

UK CAA posted April stats. 7600 pax and an 84.6% load factor for the BA LHR route. Growth of 23% over last April.

https://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/Content/Standard_Content/Data_and_analysis/Datasets/Airport_stats/Airport_data_2018_04/Table_12_1_Intl_Air_Pax_Traffic_Route_Analysis.pdf

Looks like DL is bring back the Sat SEA and Sat/Sun BOS service in March.

NolaMD88fan wrote:

Growth of 23% over last April.

Nice! Tied with AUS for the 2nd strongest growth on USA-LHR.... behind only DEN, with absolutely massive growth.

Does anyone know if the new terminal is going to have self service bag drops or something like that?


http://www.futuretravelexperience.com/2 ... r-airport/

No idea if that will be around, but somehow doubt it.

Today at the airport board meeting there was a resolution passed to issue 100 million in bonds for a consolidated rental car facility, and there were also amendments to the car rental company agreements. Assuming that this is for the construction of a new CONRAC for the north terminal. http://www.flymsy.com/Files/Publication ... Agenda.pdf

NolaMD88fan wrote:

No idea if that will be around, but somehow doubt it.

Today at the airport board meeting there was a resolution passed to issue 100 million in bonds for a consolidated rental car facility, and there were also amendments to the car rental company agreements. Assuming that this is for the construction of a new CONRAC for the north terminal. http://www.flymsy.com/Files/Publication ... Agenda.pdf

Interesting! also I found this in an RFP the city issued today. details more about the parking garages and how they will work going forward.

Main points is the city has built and will own and lease operations of the west side surface parking lot and the short term north terminal connected garage to whoever wins this rfp. In addition the city has leased the east side parking area to a third party thats going to construct and manage a new short term parking garage. In addition the current managers and operators of the south terminal long term parking garage will operate enhanced shuttle service to the new terminal . the current short term parking garage at south terminal will be used exclusively for MSY employees who will be shuttled to the north terminal.

NolaMD88fan wrote:

No idea if that will be around, but somehow doubt it.

Today at the airport board meeting there was a resolution passed to issue 100 million in bonds for a consolidated rental car facility, and there were also amendments to the car rental company agreements. Assuming that this is for the construction of a new CONRAC for the north terminal. http://www.flymsy.com/Files/Publication ... Agenda.pdf

This makes sense price wise. the current facility built in 2012 cost around 75 million so i could see a new facility now costing around 100 million... curious though where they would build this facility? im assuming on the west parking lot but if so why would they be leasing that out to an operator? perhaps the contract says they can utilize that space until the new facility is needed if indeed they build it there




also they look to be requiring interstate signage on i-10 that will display availability parking wise for all parking facilities.. signs will be operated by LADOTD but fed information from the parking operator

If I had to guess, I'd say they could put a new conrac on what is currently the construction parking lot (north of the general aviation area). Alternatively, there are plenty of possibilities north of the terminal.

I do like the smart garage component. It is a huge time saver to have the individual red/green space indicators. At this point it's old technology, no excuse not to have it.

With that design of the yellow show-term parking graphic, are they still leaving the square-shaped space in hopes of attracting a hotel, as originally planned... or is that completely given up on?

LAX772LR wrote:

With that design of the yellow show-term parking graphic, are they still leaving the square-shaped space in hopes of attracting a hotel, as originally planned... or is that completely given up on?

I suspect given up, but maybe they are thinking the surface lot could be converted into a hotel if it comes to fruition.

LAX772LR wrote:

With that design of the yellow show-term parking graphic, are they still leaving the square-shaped space in hopes of attracting a hotel, as originally planned... or is that completely given up on?

I suspect they just used an older graphic for the rfp and the hotel is planned somewheres else since the main terminal doesnt show concourse a or the expanded apron for concourse a either making it likely they just used and old graphic because the current garage as built cant support a hotel in that spot .

Also now that we know the east side garage will be built and operated by a third party we can safely rule out that garage being used for pickup by ride share.. my guess is the bottom of the north side garage is where this will happen then ?

From what I've heard rideshare pickup and dropoff will be in designated zones along the curb of the roadway. I don't see the CONRAC going up where the surface lot is. I think it will be built across the road from the taxi/rideshare hold lot. There is space there for a rental car facility. Quick shuttle ride over from the terminal when it's done.

I knew the present CONRAC was a no starter. Put the new one out there on Veteran's where the drivers will be close to I-10. It will necessitate buying some property though.

Its a shame there will not be flyovers built from I-10 to the new terminal as is the case now.

The flyover ramps will be built. State has the money for it now. Should be done by 2023.

NolaMD88fan wrote:

The flyover ramps will be built. State has the money for it now. Should be done by 2023.

Still that is shockingly late. They should have at least gotten the studies done ahead of time. Last I heard the environmental review will be finished the end of this year and the formal RFP goes out early 2019. If we're lucky they might be able to start construction in 2020 and hopefully they can expedite it to a 1.5 year construction schedule.

A big question I have is whether the shuttles will have any sort of special access route or if they will have to use the access road/Veterans/Loyola. If they did, it wouldn't be so bad for the long term parkers and employees (and rental car users until a new facility is built) and that takes some traffic off of the NT access road.

I'm also surprised that widening Veterans to six lanes from the access road to Loyola hasn't been part of the discussion. That would be a relatively low cost way to move traffic a lot faster at rush hour.

The shuttles will use Bainbridge, not Loyola.
I hope they at least pave Bainbridge...

SunsetLimited wrote:

The shuttles will use Bainbridge, not Loyola.
I hope they at least pave Bainbridge...

this needs to happen as soon as construction vehicles are done using it and absolutely even without the airport veterans needs to be widened to three lanes

NolaMD88fan wrote:

The flyover ramps will be built. State has the money for it now. Should be done by 2023.

So are they going to have bulldoze that giant 7 story hotel thats in the way?

Agreed that Bainbridge needs to be repaved. As for the hotel, my guess would be yes.

April 2018 stats released today. Airport had fantastic year over year growth of 14.1% in April and 14% for the first 4 months of the year. AC was only the only airline to see a slight reduction in passengers. DL, WN, and NK all had double digit growth. The airport was the 36th busiest in the nation through April, and was placed between HOU and RSW.

http://www.flymsy.com/Files/Press/April ... istics.pdf

Airport.........April............YTD
HOU.......1,169,870....4,500,938
MSY........1,183,217....4,342,559
RSW..........939,957....4,339,483

http://www.fly2houston.com/newsroom/med ... tatistics/
https://www.flylcpa.com/monthlystats/

According to a reliable source, expect an additional nonstop to LAX, by one of the carriers already flying the route, to be added sometime in the Fall.

SunsetLimited wrote:

According to a reliable source, expect an additional nonstop to LAX, by one of the carriers already flying the route, to be added sometime in the Fall.

I doubt DL jumps to 4x daily. Others would be Spirit to 2x, American to 2x or Southwest to 3x. I see Southwest as the most likely (I feel like WN already announced 3x on second thought). It is unusual for multiple dailies on Spirit. American could go 2x though.

WN is indeed going to 3x daily already. My guess is AA.

11 things you need to know about New Orleans' new airport terminal, opening in 2019





https://www.nola.com/expo/news/erry-2018/06/7f04bbf1a12564/new_orleans_is_getting_a_new_a.html#incart_2box


Decent article except that it forget to mention new third party long term parking garage next tot the terminal as well as a recently approved bond measure for a new CONRAC.



Also there will be a roundabout Sculpture
Item 13 North Terminal Project – Design Services
Allocation of Funds $20,000
LSNTE
LOA #39 – Initial Services for Roundabout Sculpture $20,000
Crescent City Aviation Team LSNTE
New Orleans, Louisiana
Approved

DJSNOLA wrote:

NolaMD88fan wrote:

The flyover ramps will be built. State has the money for it now. Should be done by 2023.

So are they going to have bulldoze that giant 7 story hotel thats in the way?

The Red Roof Inn?

william wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

NolaMD88fan wrote:

The flyover ramps will be built. State has the money for it now. Should be done by 2023.

So are they going to have bulldoze that giant 7 story hotel thats in the way?

The Red Roof Inn?

I would think so.. in almost every scheme that I saw the overpass goes right through it!

A few notes from the latest WN extension, looking at March 1 and 3:
Weekday total 54, Sundays 64
PIT returns Sun only, as do IND, CMH, RDU, and SMF
Shocking to me that LAS is down to 1 daily, and MDW to 2 on weekdays. MDW/ORD has had strong load factors for all carriers, LAS a bit weaker, but you'd think with the connections available on both ends that twice daily should be fine. Probably gives NK an opening to go 2 daily on those routes.
PHX back to 1 daily - someone ought to jump in here - AA, F9, G4, NK?
Nice to see BNA back to 4 daily and FLL to 2 (3 on Sunday). WN seems to be happy to cede some of the BWI, TPA, and MCO markets to NK by reducing to 2, 3, and 3 respectively.

Overall pretty conservative schedule. I hear they reduced a lot of markets across the network to boost fares, so I suppose MSY came out relatively unscathed. The terminal switchover may have played a part as well, given this extension only goes until a few weeks after. The next extension will be interesting in that regard.

msycajun wrote:

A few notes from the latest WN extension, looking at March 1 and 3:
Weekday total 54, Sundays 64
PIT returns Sun only, as do IND, CMH, RDU, and SMF
Shocking to me that LAS is down to 1 daily, and MDW to 2 on weekdays. MDW/ORD has had strong load factors for all carriers, LAS a bit weaker, but you'd think with the connections available on both ends that twice daily should be fine. Probably gives NK an opening to go 2 daily on those routes.
PHX back to 1 daily - someone ought to jump in here - AA, F9, G4, NK?
Nice to see BNA back to 4 daily and FLL to 2 (3 on Sunday). WN seems to be happy to cede some of the BWI, TPA, and MCO markets to NK by reducing to 2, 3, and 3 respectively.

Overall pretty conservative schedule. I hear they reduced a lot of markets across the network to boost fares, so I suppose MSY came out relatively unscathed. The terminal switchover may have played a part as well, given this extension only goes until a few weeks after. The next extension will be interesting in that regard.

Is Spirit starting to eat into Southwest in the markets its in? sure seems that way! lol


Anyways the city rfp is out for the advertising program!



Request for Proposals The City of New Orleans ("City") by and through the New Orleans Aviation Board ("NOAB") is seeking competitive Proposals from interested and qualified Proposers with demonstrated expertise to install, design, manage, maintain and operate on a nonexclusive basis an Advertising Program ("Program") at Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport ("Airport") for the new North Terminal ("Terminal").

Found Some goodies:

AA is adding a second daily nonstop to LAX on B737 effective 10/4. Morning departure and evening return.

This will make 9 daily non stops in the market in total.

anyone notice the Lufthansa tail and fuselage in the artist renderings above? Lol

braniff2hav wrote:

anyone notice the Lufthansa tail and fuselage in the artist renderings above? Lol

yes it caught my eye ... weird lol not sure it meant anything or not.. but the delta skyclub looks great

CAL. NO. 32,279 - BY: COUNCILMEMBER BROSSETT (BY REQUEST)

Brief:
An Ordinance approving the form, terms, and conditions of an amended and restated parking garage ground lease between the New Orleans Aviation Board (the “NOAB”), as the unattached board of the City of New Orleans (the “City”) which operates and administers the Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport (the “Airport”), and Parking Facilities Corporation (“PFC”), a private, not for profit Louisiana Corporation which constitutes a 501(c)(3) entity for federal tax purposes, and which was caused to be organized by the Council of the City of New Orleans (the “Council”) in the year 2000 for the purpose of assisting local government through the planning, designing, financing, acquiring, constructing, equipping and operating a new parking facility in multiple phases consisting of no less than 4,500 parking spaces; and otherwise to provide with respect thereto.

32279

Another solid month in May for the BA flight. UK CAA posted stats, and they show a 36% increase over last May in the number of pax. This translated to a 85.5% load factor on the route using the 788 seat count. http://caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/Cont ... alysis.pdf

also the pile driver has been on site for a few weeks for what i presume is the new third party parking garage to the east of the new terminal

DJSNOLA wrote:

also the pile driver has been on site for a few weeks for what i presume is the new third party parking garage to the east of the new terminal

I'll have to look and see if construction has started when I fly later this month.

NolaMD88fan wrote:

Another solid month in May for the BA flight. UK CAA posted stats, and they show a 36% increase over last May in the number of pax. This translated to a 85.5% load factor on the route using the 788 seat count. http://caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/Cont ... alysis.pdf

Most encouraging. And BNA looks like it is settling down nicely. AUS also well up, as is DEN (+75%).

But can we see the traditional hub routings suffering? ATL down 3%, DFW down 1% (but IAH +4%). CLT down 1% (marginal), PHL down 15%, DTW down 17%.

Probably inconclusive as other factors may well be at play here

mutu wrote:

NolaMD88fan wrote:

Another solid month in May for the BA flight. UK CAA posted stats, and they show a 36% increase over last May in the number of pax. This translated to a 85.5% load factor on the route using the 788 seat count. http://caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/Cont ... alysis.pdf

Most encouraging. And BNA looks like it is settling down nicely. AUS also well up, as is DEN (+75%).

But can we see the traditional hub routings suffering? ATL down 3%, DFW down 1% (but IAH +4%). CLT down 1% (marginal), PHL down 15%, DTW down 17%.

Probably inconclusive as other factors may well be at play here

Im guessing any hubs to our east that yes theres probably some effect on those routes...American Airlines would filter a lot of people through philly for london heathrow so I am betting you are right...especially since those are code share airlines too

NolaMD88fan wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

also the pile driver has been on site for a few weeks for what i presume is the new third party parking garage to the east of the new terminal

I'll have to look and see if construction has started when I fly later this month.

the pile driver is very visible from airport road!

mutu wrote:

NolaMD88fan wrote:

Another solid month in May for the BA flight. UK CAA posted stats, and they show a 36% increase over last May in the number of pax. This translated to a 85.5% load factor on the route using the 788 seat count. http://caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/Cont ... alysis.pdf

Most encouraging. And BNA looks like it is settling down nicely. AUS also well up, as is DEN (+75%).

But can we see the traditional hub routings suffering? ATL down 3%, DFW down 1% (but IAH +4%). CLT down 1% (marginal), PHL down 15%, DTW down 17%.

Probably inconclusive as other factors may well be at play here

AA's JV with BA means they're making money on the nonstop even if they're losing flow through passengers. What does this indicate (if anything) for DL with ATL and DTW down?

Nola wrote:

AA's JV with BA means they're making money on the nonstop even if they're losing flow through passengers. What does this indicate (if anything) for DL with ATL and DTW down?

Tough to say really. DL may be focused more on routing pax through their main Euro hubs of AMS and CDG, but that's just speculation.