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flymco753 wrote:I really don't see TK going to IND any time soon, I don't think the market that TK serves is better served at IND as it would at a few other places in the Midwest.
zackary747 wrote:Oh so we’re talking the possibility of Lufthansa?flymco753 wrote:I really don't see TK going to IND any time soon, I don't think the market that TK serves is better served at IND as it would at a few other places in the Midwest.
That's why MidwestIndy was referring to their star alliance partners, not TK themselves.
Midwestindy wrote:Big news of the day
http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/st ... l-nonstops
"Indiana Secretary of Commerce Jim Schellinger says the Paris nonstop could be joined by additional international destinations on future flight schedules. "We're working on one right now for Asia that we expect to be done by the end of the year," said Schellinger. "And after 2020, we’ll go back and look at Europe again."
"In addition to Asia, there is interest in potential nonstops to India and Germany. A nonstop to Asia makes sense, given the fact that more than 200 Japanese owned or affiliated companies are doing business in the state, including a major presence from automakers Subaru, Toyota and Honda. Emerging economies like India could be in play as well, with plans by companies like Infosys and Axiscades for major investment and new jobs in Indiana."
Guesses on which airline?
I'm going to guess DL, based on the fact that the Airport Director said that IND-CDG was the beginning of DL making IND a connecting point
Midwestindy wrote:Big news of the day
http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/st ... l-nonstops
"Indiana Secretary of Commerce Jim Schellinger says the Paris nonstop could be joined by additional international destinations on future flight schedules. "We're working on one right now for Asia that we expect to be done by the end of the year," said Schellinger. "And after 2020, we’ll go back and look at Europe again."
"In addition to Asia, there is interest in potential nonstops to India and Germany. A nonstop to Asia makes sense, given the fact that more than 200 Japanese owned or affiliated companies are doing business in the state, including a major presence from automakers Subaru, Toyota and Honda. Emerging economies like India could be in play as well, with plans by companies like Infosys and Axiscades for major investment and new jobs in Indiana."
Guesses on which airline?
I'm going to guess DL, based on the fact that the Airport Director said that IND-CDG was the beginning of DL making IND a connecting point
IndyHoosier wrote:I find all of this extremely hard to believe. Hubs like PHL, CLT & SLT don't even have flights to Asia. The idea of a non-stop to India is completely laughable. The only US airline that flies to India is United and they only do so from EWR, with a massive Indian population nearby. The only other airline that flies to India from the US is Air India, and they only do so from United hubs.
SumChristianus wrote:Maybe they know something about Amazon....?
Mentioning Japan makes JL seem likely, but IND...? But NRT (and ICN) is a really small market from here, and JL has few onward connections compared to KE at ICN or ANA at NRT.
LupineChemist wrote:I'm guessing it would have to be on a 788 for capacity so I doubt DL. Maybe JL with increased connections from AA?
kavok wrote:Asia does seem... ambitious. Europe is one thing, and TATL flights seem to come a dime a dozen these days. But there are much, much fewer TPAC flights from North America overall... so to land a TPAC seems to be a reach.
I would be very curious where they are trying to get a flight to. If it is again a DL/KE add, than obviously it would be to ICN which overflies Tokyo. It just seems hard to fathom there will be enough demand on O/D alone to fill a flight to ICN, even with onward connections.
Indy wrote:Wow. Asia this year seems very aggressive. I would imagine that route would be backed by cargo and a commitment by local business to buy a number of seats in the front.
stl07 wrote:Is turkey part of Asia?
Midwestindy wrote:IndyHoosier wrote:I find all of this extremely hard to believe. Hubs like PHL, CLT & SLT don't even have flights to Asia. The idea of a non-stop to India is completely laughable. The only US airline that flies to India is United and they only do so from EWR, with a massive Indian population nearby. The only other airline that flies to India from the US is Air India, and they only do so from United hubs.
India is not happening, I think India was just mentioned because there have been some recent announcements amount large investments by Indian companies.SumChristianus wrote:Maybe they know something about Amazon....?
Mentioning Japan makes JL seem likely, but IND...? But NRT (and ICN) is a really small market from here, and JL has few onward connections compared to KE at ICN or ANA at NRT.LupineChemist wrote:I'm guessing it would have to be on a 788 for capacity so I doubt DL. Maybe JL with increased connections from AA?kavok wrote:Asia does seem... ambitious. Europe is one thing, and TATL flights seem to come a dime a dozen these days. But there are much, much fewer TPAC flights from North America overall... so to land a TPAC seems to be a reach.
I would be very curious where they are trying to get a flight to. If it is again a DL/KE add, than obviously it would be to ICN which overflies Tokyo. It just seems hard to fathom there will be enough demand on O/D alone to fill a flight to ICN, even with onward connections.Indy wrote:Wow. Asia this year seems very aggressive. I would imagine that route would be backed by cargo and a commitment by local business to buy a number of seats in the front.
We will see what happens, but I would keep my ears close to the ground, considering how carefully IND is about releasing info about new flights/destinations
Some interesting things to keep in mind
-Gov Holcomb just got back from a trade mission in Japan late last year
-There would be no shortage of cargo for this flight
-Indiana is willing to pony up incentives for these flights
-The list of companies that could back a flight to Japan is enormous
-I would put faith in what Jim Schellinger says, considering he is part of the contingent that meets with airlines
SumChristianus wrote:IND-MSP on June 11th, 1x CR9, 1x 717, 2x A319, 1x 320 (DL)
IND-PHL is 1x ERJ, 5x E75 the same day on American
IND-PHX is 2x 319 (AA)
IND-DTW is down to only one mainline, a B717 daily
ADrum23 wrote:IND does have a good case for a TPAC flight, and it would be a nice alternative to flying or driving to ORD, but I would be surprised if any TPAC flight came before the 2020's. Also, IND will be competing with a handful of other mid-sized markets with Asian ambitions as well, such as AUS, RDU, BNA, etc.
The only thing I could see potentially hindering an IND TPAC flight is the close proximity to ORD. Sure, in the case of AUS and BNA, you could say the same thing as they are close to IAH/DFW and ATL respectively, but those airports are nowhere near ORD as far as TPAC service goes.
I'll be really interested to see how this all plays out over the next decade or so.
Indy wrote:ADrum23 wrote:IND does have a good case for a TPAC flight, and it would be a nice alternative to flying or driving to ORD, but I would be surprised if any TPAC flight came before the 2020's. Also, IND will be competing with a handful of other mid-sized markets with Asian ambitions as well, such as AUS, RDU, BNA, etc.
The only thing I could see potentially hindering an IND TPAC flight is the close proximity to ORD. Sure, in the case of AUS and BNA, you could say the same thing as they are close to IAH/DFW and ATL respectively, but those airports are nowhere near ORD as far as TPAC service goes.
I'll be really interested to see how this all plays out over the next decade or so.
Honestly I don't think the proximity to ORD will be a factor at all. I believe this whole proximity to a hub thing is a limitation cooked up on this website. IND's proximity to CVG didn't stop DL from adding CDG service which is offered by them just 2 hours down the highway. The best reason to have the service in IND instead of flying through ORD is because who wants to fly through ORD? Nobody. The service is all about meeting local demand and ORD is completely irrelevant. If you think about it, people here had the option of flying to CDG out of CVG or ORD and they chose IND. Sales have been brisk and the route looks to be a huge success. I believe Asia will be a huge hit as well. I am just really surprised to see that it may be happening this fast. We are probably the best market of this size for the route.
flyboy80 wrote:Does the IND-CDG service still drop to 4x weekly for the entire fall, winter, and spring? I've heard that its gone between 4x and 5x. Perhaps its a mix of daily, 5x, & 4x depending on the season/month.
fedex1 wrote:What are the loads on the CDG flight for the 1st couple of months of service? Anyone know? Or how could you find out?
flyboy80 wrote:I guess at some point I was under the impression the flight would be reduced to 4x weekly for a period, but no idea why I thought or heard that. Does anyone know how the Indianapolis planned frequency compares to other "p2p" markets Delta is serving CDG i.e. RDU & PIT; I believe RDU is year round but PIT is seasonal?
Indy wrote:ADrum23 wrote:IND does have a good case for a TPAC flight, and it would be a nice alternative to flying or driving to ORD, but I would be surprised if any TPAC flight came before the 2020's. Also, IND will be competing with a handful of other mid-sized markets with Asian ambitions as well, such as AUS, RDU, BNA, etc.
The only thing I could see potentially hindering an IND TPAC flight is the close proximity to ORD. Sure, in the case of AUS and BNA, you could say the same thing as they are close to IAH/DFW and ATL respectively, but those airports are nowhere near ORD as far as TPAC service goes.
I'll be really interested to see how this all plays out over the next decade or so.
Honestly I don't think the proximity to ORD will be a factor at all. I believe this whole proximity to a hub thing is a limitation cooked up on this website. IND's proximity to CVG didn't stop DL from adding CDG service which is offered by them just 2 hours down the highway. The best reason to have the service in IND instead of flying through ORD is because who wants to fly through ORD? Nobody. The service is all about meeting local demand and ORD is completely irrelevant. If you think about it, people here had the option of flying to CDG out of CVG or ORD and they chose IND. Sales have been brisk and the route looks to be a huge success. I believe Asia will be a huge hit as well. I am just really surprised to see that it may be happening this fast. We are probably the best market of this size for the route.
ADrum23 wrote:I think AUS and RDU would beg to differ there. Those markets are much faster growing than IND (particularly AUS) and have much more business ties to Asia (particularly in the technology field). I predict AUS will be the first mid-sized market to get TPAC service, followed by RDU and then IND & BNA will be in the next tier down afterwards.
Midwestindy wrote:ADrum23 wrote:I think AUS and RDU would beg to differ there. Those markets are much faster growing than IND (particularly AUS) and have much more business ties to Asia (particularly in the technology field). I predict AUS will be the first mid-sized market to get TPAC service, followed by RDU and then IND & BNA will be in the next tier down afterwards.
I was kind of thinking that before, but what the Indiana Secretary of Commerce said: "We're working on one right now for Asia that we expect to be done by the end of the year" changes things up, especially since he and the governor recently came back from Japan, so they must be close to reaching a deal.
If its a flight to Japan, IND is at the front of the pack: https://www.in.gov/gov/files/Japan_2017 ... _Final.pdf
Don't get me wrong, BNA has a strong case, but I just haven't heard anything to suggest they are close to a n/s to Asia.
RDU is making a big push for a TPAC flight but it's Asia traffic leans toward China, I'm not sure on AUS.
fedex1 wrote:Question : how big is the international arrivals in the midfield terminal? I flew CUN-IND at the old airport terminal, and we had to go over to the 1970’s building, dark dungy. . . Just curious. . . With almost daily IND-CDG, and possibly other routes in coming years. How does it compare, and size of old?
What about customs officers? More or same as 8 years ago.
fedex1 wrote:It doesn’t look bigger at all!!! A hell of a lot nicer though I will say! Is that big enough for a wide body??? 767? Or this that a narrow?
What about future routes, that have room to expand?
Midwestindy wrote:Good news! Onejet apparently has some "exciting" announcements regarding IND coming up sometime this year!
Hopefully that means service to either, MEM, MKE, PVD, or BDL
Midwestindy wrote:zackary747 wrote:Midwestindy wrote:Good news! Onejet apparently has some "exciting" announcements regarding IND coming up sometime this year!
Hopefully that means service to either, MEM, MKE, PVD, or BDL
Where did you hear this from?
https://m.facebook.com/groups/107094332 ... =nf_target
zackary747 wrote:Midwestindy wrote:Good news! Onejet apparently has some "exciting" announcements regarding IND coming up sometime this year!
Hopefully that means service to either, MEM, MKE, PVD, or BDL
Where did you hear this from?
Midwestindy wrote:Good news! Onejet apparently has some "exciting" announcements regarding IND coming up sometime this year!
Hopefully that means service to either, MEM, MKE, PVD, or BDL
ibthebigd wrote:Be nice if Southwest would add BNA MKE and STL. I know that would never happen
ibthebigd wrote:CLE has BDL service on DL be nice if they would resume BDL.