Two more days until IND-CDG. Who is coming to the airport to check things out?

Indy wrote:

Two more days until IND-CDG. Who is coming to the airport to check things out?

I'll be there on both days. I'm bringing ALL of my camera stuff.

Indy wrote:

Two more days until IND-CDG. Who is coming to the airport to check things out?

Flying outin the morning, first time on AA, but sadly won't see the inagural. I plan to try and swing by the gate though if I can make it. A3 right?

Hope troubles at AF don't sink the flight (for connections beyond CDG).

I'm starting to wonder if AMS might not have been a better choice....but its exciting nevertheless.

SumChristianus wrote:

Flying outin the morning, first time on AA, but sadly won't see the inagural. I plan to try and swing by the gate though if I can make it. A3 right?

Hope troubles at AF don't sink the flight (for connections beyond CDG).

I'm starting to wonder if AMS might not have been a better choice....but its exciting nevertheless.

Not sure what gate it is leaving from. I wish it was AMS instead. I really have no interest in connecting in CDG. I suspect AMS would have been better received by the traveling public. It is exciting to finally have a TATL flight but CDG is just disappointing to be honest.

zackary747 wrote:

Indy wrote:

Two more days until IND-CDG. Who is coming to the airport to check things out?

I'll be there on both days. I'm bringing ALL of my camera stuff.

I'm not sure I will be able to make it on Friday.

Indy wrote:

SumChristianus wrote:

Flying outin the morning, first time on AA, but sadly won't see the inagural. I plan to try and swing by the gate though if I can make it. A3 right?

Hope troubles at AF don't sink the flight (for connections beyond CDG).

I'm starting to wonder if AMS might not have been a better choice....but its exciting nevertheless.

Not sure what gate it is leaving from. I wish it was AMS instead. I really have no interest in connecting in CDG. I suspect AMS would have been better received by the traveling public. It is exciting to finally have a TATL flight but CDG is just disappointing to be honest.

A5 I'm pretty sure

Paris is more appealing to the majority of leisure travelers than Amsterdam, but AMS is still a better airport to connect through

I'm sure the A Concourse Starbucks & CNBC Store will appreciate the boost in business.

Getting excited for the trip tomorrow! Hoping to get to the airport around 3p or so even though flight doesn't leave until 615p. The DL SkyClub is receiving some minor renovations to accommodate an improved food buffet area and supposedly new furniture is arriving soon. DL has been a bit tight-lipped about the fanfare around the flight but supposedly there will be some music and "great food" in the lounge according to the DL SC agents.

IND-BDL is bookable on J1, are they running it IND-PIT-BDL?

Yes IND based 328 Jet will operate IND-PIT-BDL

indygs wrote:

Getting excited for the trip tomorrow! Hoping to get to the airport around 3p or so even though flight doesn't leave until 615p. The DL SkyClub is receiving some minor renovations to accommodate an improved food buffet area and supposedly new furniture is arriving soon. DL has been a bit tight-lipped about the fanfare around the flight but supposedly there will be some music and "great food" in the lounge according to the DL SC agents.

Should be fun, they are hiring more agents/bartenders/supervisors at the Skyclub so they definitely expect more people to be coming through

This weekend should be extremely busy at the airport, so far Monday has 30 sold out flights

COSPN wrote:

Yes IND based 328 Jet will operate IND-PIT-BDL

They are basing an aircraft in IND?

Anyway this is a great option for those flying to BDL

I just did a dummy booking on OneJet's website. It looks non-stop to me as the website says nothing about a stop in PIT. You would think their website would show a connection in PIT. Is there any media release about this?

The seat-map also shows it's the E135.

What time was the departure from Indianapolis?

zackary747 wrote:

I just did a dummy booking on OneJet's website. It looks non-stop to me as the website says nothing about a stop in PIT. You would think their website would show a connection in PIT. Is there any media release about this?

The seat-map also shows it's the E135.

The IND-PIT flight departs at the exact same time as the IND-BDL, but the IND-BDL flight is about an hour and a half longer, so it is possible it could be either.

Midwestindy wrote:

zackary747 wrote:

I just did a dummy booking on OneJet's website. It looks non-stop to me as the website says nothing about a stop in PIT. You would think their website would show a connection in PIT. Is there any media release about this?

The seat-map also shows it's the E135.

The IND-PIT flight departs at the exact same time as the IND-BDL, but the IND-BDL flight is about an hour and a half longer, so it is possible it could be either.

Interesting. You would think the website would specify that there's a connection in-between there.

stlgph wrote:

What time was the departure from Indianapolis?

6AM and 545PM for both the IND-PIT and IND-BDL flights

I think that's just the Pittsburgh services.

I was just on the phone with Onejet they said starting June 11th IND-BDL would be run with a connection in PIT, and they also said they would be adding more routes soon, but they are currently going through a schedule change.

It looks like this is the initial timing:

Aircraft 1 based in IND
0600 IND
0706 PIT
0735 PIT
0853 BDL

1700 BDL
1830 PIT
1900 PIT
1915 IND

Aircraft 2 based in BDL
0615 BDL
0745 PIT
0815 PIT
0922 IND

1745 IND
1851 PIT
1920 PIT
2038 BDL

At the moment there is also a single business jet in the schedule doing this:
0600 PIT
0710 ALB
0730 ALB
0840 PIT
0925 PIT
1025 SDF
1045 SDF
1145 PIT
1245 PIT
1300 MKE
1320 MKE
1530 PIT

No sign at the moment what the plane would do subsequently. No flights showing at the moment to PVD, RIC or CVG.

Midwestindy wrote:

I was just on the phone with Onejet they said starting June 11th IND-BDL would be run with a connection in PIT, and they also said they would be adding more routes soon, but they are currently going through a schedule change.

Speaking of more routes, did you ask them if IND would get any new non-stop service in addition to PIT??

zackary747 wrote:

Midwestindy wrote:

I was just on the phone with Onejet they said starting June 11th IND-BDL would be run with a connection in PIT, and they also said they would be adding more routes soon, but they are currently going through a schedule change.

Speaking of more routes, did you ask them if IND would get any new non-stop service in addition to PIT??

Sorry I should have been more clear, they said they would be adding more routes from Indy soon

Midwestindy wrote:

zackary747 wrote:

Midwestindy wrote:

I was just on the phone with Onejet they said starting June 11th IND-BDL would be run with a connection in PIT, and they also said they would be adding more routes soon, but they are currently going through a schedule change.

Speaking of more routes, did you ask them if IND would get any new non-stop service in addition to PIT??

Sorry I should have been more clear, they said they would be adding more routes from Indy soon

Interesting. The only question remains is it non-stop or connecting we're talking about? Time will tell. Let the guessing game begin.

My guess is

MEM
MKE
OMA
BNA
BDL
BUF

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Midwestindy wrote:

zackary747 wrote:

Midwestindy wrote:

I was just on the phone with Onejet they said starting June 11th IND-BDL would be run with a connection in PIT, and they also said they would be adding more routes soon, but they are currently going through a schedule change.

Speaking of more routes, did you ask them if IND would get any new non-stop service in addition to PIT??

Sorry I should have been more clear, they said they would be adding more routes from Indy soon

They are adding more routes across the network. Not sure if Indy is included in those plans or not.

ibthebigd wrote:

My guess is

MEM
MKE
OMA
BNA
BDL
BUF

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BDL, MKE, BNA, MEM, and possibly PVD have the potential to work. A lot of those areas have business connections to IND.

Midwestindy wrote:

I was just on the phone with Onejet they said starting June 11th IND-BDL would be run with a connection in PIT, and they also said they would be adding more routes soon, but they are currently going through a schedule change.

Kind of defies the point of "onejet" to have two flights unless they argue its a through flight, but it seems like a good opportunity for a nonstop, at least eventually.

I had hoped the inaugural would go out full, but it looks like there are 15 seats open (delta.com) as of 10pm for IND-CDG. Next week looks horrible coming back (at least in economy) with pretty much two thirds of economy open. Ouch again

Worried about this one....but DL must know what they are doing...I hope

I have been saying this looking at the loads... can IND support this?????? We have argued for Europe service for years, you got it now.....

Well, keep in mind IND-CDG is mostly O&D demand. It's going to take a little bit for the butts in those seats to circle back to IND. It won't happen right away. It's just the nature. I have been looking at the seat maps TO CDG from IND/CVG/RDU/PIT and they look similar, so I wouldn't be worried.

Again, like I said the flight to IND will fill up once the O&D demand (which is basically the whole flight) gets time to circle back. People tend to stay a couple days on that side of the pond before circling back. Personally, I think people are getting worked up over something that is natural for a inaugural. We also have cargo backing this flight, too. The reverse flight on an O&D market pair will always naturally look like this when it first starts. Can IND support this? Yes. PIT and RDU had to go through the same inaugural blues. it's NORMAL. On an O&D market pair look at the flight to CDG, not the reverse UNTIL the route actually is running for a little bit.

I just compared the May 26th CDG-IND/CVG fill rates. They look practically identical. People are expecting 85-100 percent fill rates, it's not gonna happen. PIT/CVG/RDU-CDG average around 75 percent, and guess what IND will too...... Compare it to the peer markets. If it can survive on the peer markets, it WILL survive here. End of story...

Looks like DL has made IND a connection stop, MSP-IND-CDG is the quickest connection from MSP so there may be a few pax who connect from that flight although likely not many considering MSP has multiple nonstop to CDG. There are other flights that could work as well, but I don't expect a lot of connecting pax unless DL edits its schedule. Interesting IND is going to have connecting pax though...

fedex1 wrote:

I have been saying this looking at the loads... can IND support this?????? We have argued for Europe service for years, you got it now.....

Again, you can't go by a seat map online. I've had plenty of last minute trips out of LGA on DL getting on a seat map thinking ... hey, we're half full and I get a row to myself. I show up to the airport 3 hours later and it's oversold.

Also, IND/CDG seems to be selling at a nice healthy price point rather than trash fares across the board, such as the case with some flights out of JFK, where I've gone across the pond for less than $500. So a couple of open seats doesn't mean the ones that did sell didn't bring in some cash.

today's gate of honor is A5.

stlgph wrote:

today's gate of honor is A5.

Are you going to be there by any chance?

stlgph wrote:

fedex1 wrote:

I have been saying this looking at the loads... can IND support this?????? We have argued for Europe service for years, you got it now.....

Again, you can't go by a seat map online. I've had plenty of last minute trips out of LGA on DL getting on a seat map thinking ... hey, we're half full and I get a row to myself. I show up to the airport 3 hours later and it's oversold.

Also, IND/CDG seems to be selling at a nice healthy price point rather than trash fares across the board, such as the case with some flights out of JFK, where I've gone across the pond for less than $500. So a couple of open seats doesn't mean the ones that did sell didn't bring in some cash.

Especially since DL introduced basic economy, more seats look open more than ever. There are specific airline codes that agents can look up to see who doesn't get a seat assignment. My flight from ATL-DTW a few days ago had over 80 people on the stand-by list once I got to the gate.

https://mailchi.mp/iedc/advisory-state- ... -to-europe

MEDIA ADVISORY - May 24, 2018

State, City to Commemorate Indiana's First Nonstop Transatlantic Flight to Europe
Governor Holcomb to deliver Indy 500 green flag to Indianapolis Motor Speedway from Paris

State, city and community leaders will join Delta Air Lines today and tomorrow to honor Indiana's first nonstop, year-round transatlantic flight to and from Europe.

Thursday, May 24:
Lt. Governor Suzanne Crouch and Indianapolis Mayor Joe Hogsett will join Delta Air Lines at 4:45 p.m. today to celebrate the inaugural flight of Delta Air Lines' flight 500 from Indianapolis to Paris. With Delta Air Lines, the flight will connect businesses and travelers to more than 75 international destinations, including Europe and Asia, via one-stop connections from Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport (CDG).

Location:
Indianapolis International Airport
7800 Col. H. Weir Cook Memorial Dr.

Details:
Media and guests should arrive at the Deta ticket counter by 3:45 p.m. RSVP is required. Contact: Indianapolis Airport Authority (IAA) Media Relations – 317.487.5025 or mediarelations@ind.com.
For security clearance purposes, the IAA must have your full name (first, middle and last) and birth date, and this information must match your government-issued ID. As you’ll be escorted post-security, your person and materials may be subject to TSA screening. Gate passes will be created for each media and guest person in attendance.

For parking in the media area on the departure’s level, media must either be in a station-marked vehicle or provide the make, model and license plate number for any personal unmarked vehicles.
Schedule:
3:45 p.m. – Media and guests arrive at Delta ticket counter for escort and screening
4:45 p.m.– Remarks from city, state and community leaders
6:12 p.m. – Scheduled IND-CDG flight departure

Friday, May 25:
Gov. Holcomb and First Lady Janet Holcomb will return home tomorrow from the governor's sixth international trade mission in Europe, delivering the Indy 500 green flag to Indianapolis on the inaugural flight from Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport (CDG) to the Indianapolis International Airport (IND) on Delta Flight 501.

After arriving at IND, Gov. Holcomb and the First Lady will travel to Indianapolis Motor Speedway (IMS) to deliver the green flag to Doug Boles, president of the IMS, at IMS' yard of the bricks.

Location:
Indianapolis International Airport, Baggage Claim
7800 Col. H. Weir Cook Memorial Dr.

Details:
Media should park in the designated media area on the upper-level departures.
Members of the media looking to capture the Governor's arrival at IMS should contact Suzi Elliott at selliott@brickyard.com.
Schedule:
Times are subject to change depending on the arrival of the flight. To track the flight from CDG to IND on Friday, May 25, click here.
4:27 p.m. – Inaugural flight from Paris to Indy arrives at IND with Indy 500 green flag
5:30 p.m.– B-roll opportunities and media scrum available for media at IND
6:00 p.m. – Gov. Holcomb, First Lady depart for IMS
6:15 p.m. – Gov. Holcomb delivers green flag to Doug Boles at IMS' yard of the bricks

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Indy wrote:

stlgph wrote:

today's gate of honor is A5.

Are you going to be there by any chance?

No, I'm not coming in until Saturday.

FYI, tonight's inaugural DL500 will operate with the 76L, which is the high-J 763ER, ship #183 (N183DN), while tomorrow's inaugural return DL501 CDG-IND will be back to the regular low-J 76Z (ship #197, N197DN, which would be inbound to CDG from RDU).

Also, for those following along at home, the delta.com app states 10 seats open for tonight's flight to CDG and 84 open for the return trip home. Light on the way home tomorrow (though Delta One is full) but as has been alluded to, that is to be expected for a bit.

The return flights in July look to have very good loads already.

3 in D1 and 10 in the main cabin. The 3 D1 seats though will be gone after upgrades and all of the nonrev stand-by's should get on. Flight will probably leave with 3 seats open.

Also pretty impressive that the inbound 767 from ATL only has 8 empty seats. I wonder when the last time a widebody jet was used for a domestic route to or from IND.

IndyHoosier wrote:

Also pretty impressive that the inbound 767 from ATL only has 8 empty seats. I wonder when the last time a widebody jet was used for a domestic route to or from IND.

I've seen them come in during football season.
Haven't had the luck of being on one myself.

flymco753 wrote:

3 in D1 and 10 in the main cabin. The 3 D1 seats though will be gone after upgrades and all of the nonrev stand-by's should get on. Flight will probably leave with 3 seats open.

Medallions don't get free upgrades on long-haul international. They have to use an instrument of some kind (miles, GUC, etc). Only K+ fares are mileage upgradeable and mileage upgrades don't go to the gate. nonrev will get the D1 seats, rather than revenue pax.

Midwestindy wrote:

Looks like DL has made IND a connection stop, MSP-IND-CDG is the quickest connection from MSP so there may be a few pax who connect from that flight although likely not many considering MSP has multiple nonstop to CDG. There are other flights that could work as well, but I don't expect a lot of connecting pax unless DL edits its schedule. Interesting IND is going to have connecting pax though...

I don't know what you mean by "connection stop". Usually that implies a shared flight number which is not the case. International routes use max permitted mileage to determine valid connections, not particular routings. So both IND and PIT are valid connections as they fall under the 5058 MPM for this route. The current 41 minute connection on MSP-IND-CDG is only temporary as they are shifting off 3:00 PM departure on flight 2941 to a 3:20PM departure on flight 1901 later in the summer which falls below the MCT.

IndyHoosier wrote:

Also pretty impressive that the inbound 767 from ATL only has 8 empty seats. I wonder when the last time a widebody jet was used for a domestic route to or from IND.

My guess is the Super Bowl when DL had some 76s in from Boston and NYC.

michman wrote:

Midwestindy wrote:

Looks like DL has made IND a connection stop, MSP-IND-CDG is the quickest connection from MSP so there may be a few pax who connect from that flight although likely not many considering MSP has multiple nonstop to CDG. There are other flights that could work as well, but I don't expect a lot of connecting pax unless DL edits its schedule. Interesting IND is going to have connecting pax though...

I don't know what you mean by "connection stop". Usually that implies a shared flight number which is not the case. International routes use max permitted mileage to determine valid connections, not particular routings. So both IND and PIT are valid connections as they fall under the 5058 MPM for this route. The current 41 minute connection on MSP-IND-CDG is only temporary as they are shifting off 3:00 PM departure on flight 2941 to a 3:20PM departure on flight 1901 later in the summer which falls below the MCT.

That is not true, IND wasn't listed as a connection for MSP-CDG until recently, even though nothing changed in their schedule. If you try to book MSP-CDG with a connection in PIT on DL.com no option will be available even if the timings are perfect. Trust me on this, I discussed this multiple times on this thread, connections like RSW-IND-CDG, SEA-IND-CDG, e.t.c weren't available before.

When I say connection stop, I just mean 1 or more MSP-IND-CDG routings are available on DL.com originally there were 0. Even when the flight shifts to 3:20 later in the summer, there are still options for 3 hour and 5 hour layovers in IND (although obviously not ideal).

michman wrote:

flymco753 wrote:

3 in D1 and 10 in the main cabin. The 3 D1 seats though will be gone after upgrades and all of the nonrev stand-by's should get on. Flight will probably leave with 3 seats open.

Medallions don't get free upgrades on long-haul international. They have to use an instrument of some kind (miles, GUC, etc). Only K+ fares are mileage upgradeable and mileage upgrades don't go to the gate. nonrev will get the D1 seats, rather than revenue pax.

I see that the code is for + now. The app shows them + as well.

de plane? de plane?