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Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:44 am

Ryanair tried a route from Skelleftea to London in 2014/2015 - it was intended to pick up pax for Umea and Lulea as well. They ended up having to sell the tickets, particularly in winter, very very cheaply in order to fill the plane and the route was cut fairly quickly. I imagine Ryanair also received marketing support payments from either Skelleftea airport or some local Govt entity but Ryanair still couldn't make it work
 
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Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:50 pm

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Apparently, Finland and Peru have signed an air service agreement enabling commercial air service between Finland and Peru. Finnair is the first airline permitted to operate between the countries.

CAPA

In addition to Peru, Finland also signed air service agreements with Brazil and Colombia. These three agreements are liberal and don't include any restrictions on weekly frequencies or capacity. Agreements with Peru and Brazil include 5th freedom rights. Last December Finland also signed agreements with Argentine and Chile. This means, that Finland has signed agreements with 5 South American countries within a year.

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Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:37 pm

From 7th January 2019, Wizz Air will discontinue flights from Poznan to Malmo and Skavsta.
 
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Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:54 pm

wizz will fly to TLL from BUD and ATH, days and times not yet published

https://trip.ee/foorum/uldfoorum/pommuu ... -budapesti
 
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Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:37 pm

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wizz will fly to TLL from BUD and ATH, days and times not yet published

https://trip.ee/foorum/uldfoorum/pommuu ... -budapesti


I think both will fail miserably as to ATH they will compete with Aegean which can rely on connections, a far superior service, competitive fares and Greek tour operators.

Also, is there really a market for BUD? Maybe it's part of the Hungarian government's subsidy scheme to link Budapest with other cities? That's why Wizz Air flies to SKP, SJJ, TIA, TGD...
 
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Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:49 pm

Don't know, possible. Hopefully they will pull the plug without much losses. I guess they are used to act like this
 
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Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:35 am

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Good to know, thanks. KLM is my airline of choice in Europe, and planning a work trip to Umeå soon it surprised me that a growing university town hadn’t managed to attract a feeder to a non-Nordic hub like AMS. Hopefully VXO will mature and KLM will consider other cities.


Umeå might be a larger town than Växjö, but there is probably a larger population around Växjö within driving distance of the airport. And in Umeå there is competition from both SAS and Norwegian.
 
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Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:35 am

As was to be expected, CX has now made it official that they won't be returning to CPH next year. Last flight will be on 26 October.

Google Translated:

"Cathay Pacific's seasonal route to Copenhagen will not be resumed in the summer of 2019, as part of the company's commercial review of the network and the allocation of flights to European routes," is stated in a press release from the company.

https://www.check-in.dk/cathay-lukker-rute-koebenhavn/
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Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:36 am

BRA is expanding, after Nextjet they started flying Gothenburg-Sundsvall with their existing fleet. But they are now leasing a Fokker 50 to be able to operate the route with a better schedule.

And they also state that their intention is to replace the Avros with A220s, but not when.
 
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Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:21 pm

BRA cancelled the C-series/A220 order, didn’t they? I heard that it was due to uncertainties caused by the new air travel taxes in Sweden. Yesterday a BRA FA told me they might go for a couple of A319’s to replace the Avros on the GOT and MMX routes, but no A220’s. The Avros would continue the charter ops.

They already lease 3xF50’s from Amapola. Would GOT-SDL mean yet another on lease?

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Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:42 pm

SK1049 (737-600 LN-RRP) from KRN to ARN diverted to LLA today due to ”engine fire” (IMHO more likely a compressor stall or similar engine failure). The incident occurred 15 minutes after take off at ~30k ft (almost cruise altitude) over Jokkmokk. The landing was uneventful but some pax were of course frightened nevertheless. Compressor stalls are fairly common in an international context but still rare enough in Sweden to make headline news here.
 
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Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:54 pm

FredrikHAD wrote:
BRA cancelled the C-series/A220 order, didn’t they? I heard that it was due to uncertainties caused by the new air travel taxes in Sweden. Yesterday a BRA FA told me they might go for a couple of A319’s to replace the Avros on the GOT and MMX routes, but no A220’s. The Avros would continue the charter ops.


I thought the order was deferred? But I might be wrong.

FredrikHAD wrote:
They already lease 3xF50’s from Amapola. Would GOT-SDL mean yet another on lease?


Correct, this is a fourth F50.
 
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Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:35 pm

Ryanair will launch two new routes from GOT starting april 2019:
*Gothenburg-Prague, 2 weekly
*Gothenburg-Manchester, 2 weekly

At the same time Malta will increase from 1 to 2 weekly and Edinburgh will become a year-around route this winter.

The new additions bring Ryanairs number of destinations from GOT to 15!
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Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:01 pm

So will Aegan fly HEL-ATH year round? I keep updating that into Wikipedia but then someone keeps changing it back to seasonal.
 
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:29 am

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So will Aegan fly HEL-ATH year round? I keep updating that into Wikipedia but then someone keeps changing it back to seasonal.

Yeah, I have noticed the same. I think someone said that it's not a year-round service as there is a short period (about one month, I think) with no flights.
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:08 am

QuawerAir wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Apparently, Finland and Peru have signed an air service agreement enabling commercial air service between Finland and Peru. Finnair is the first airline permitted to operate between the countries.


That opens a new line with tones of possibilities to fly Asia-South America through Finland. Finnair’s partner Iberia recently said they wanted to play a role on this Asia-South America increasing traffic, despite its tiny presence in Asia.

So far, Finnair does not fly to any country in South America, and probably could not go any further than LIM or GRU?
 
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:30 pm

a350lover wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Apparently, Finland and Peru have signed an air service agreement enabling commercial air service between Finland and Peru. Finnair is the first airline permitted to operate between the countries.


That opens a new line with tones of possibilities to fly Asia-South America through Finland. Finnair’s partner Iberia recently said they wanted to play a role on this Asia-South America increasing traffic, despite its tiny presence in Asia.

So far, Finnair does not fly to any country in South America, and probably could not go any further than LIM or GRU?


Interesting prospect. According to gcmap.com flying from LIM to Asia is roughly 800 nm longer via HEL than over the Pacific. GRU to Asia is even less (and I would think GRU is a bigger market).

EZE is about 7000 nm from HEL, I think realistically that is beyond the A350 capabilities.
 
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:39 pm

Asia-South America at the moment probably is best served through Aeromexico flights which link PVG-MEX, ICN-MEX and NRT-MEX. All these flights are between the 12h30 (NRT) and the 14h30min which are needed to cover the distance from PVG to MEX. Then another good 5 to 9 hours are needed to connect to places like Bogota, Lima or Santiago.

On the other hand, most probably, some customers could still prefer that excess of flying hours but fly via Europe.
 
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:44 pm

Is Joon replacing AF at ARN?

https://www.swedavia.com/arlanda/news/t ... 1532731545

According to the press release Joon is going to fly 4x daily, which I believe is the same frequency AF has. Besides, the departure times are the same as AF's. Of course no mention that this is a replacement for the AF flights, the press release makes it sound as a expansion.
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:06 pm

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Is Joon replacing AF at ARN?

https://www.swedavia.com/arlanda/news/t ... 1532731545

According to the press release Joon is going to fly 4x daily, which I believe is the same frequency AF has. Besides, the departure times are the same as AF's. Of course no mention that this is a replacement for the AF flights, the press release makes it sound as a expansion.

If the departure times are the same, I believe AF will be replaced by Joon on CDG-ARN route.
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:39 pm

B747forever wrote:
Is Joon replacing AF at ARN?

https://www.swedavia.com/arlanda/news/t ... 1532731545

According to the press release Joon is going to fly 4x daily, which I believe is the same frequency AF has. Besides, the departure times are the same as AF's. Of course no mention that this is a replacement for the AF flights, the press release makes it sound as a expansion.

Yes, it’s a replacement. It’s just very typical for Swedavia. They make it sound like an increase, when this is actually a downgrade (atleast in my own opinion), from the real Air France to Joon...
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:49 pm

cityairline wrote:
B747forever wrote:
Is Joon replacing AF at ARN?

https://www.swedavia.com/arlanda/news/t ... 1532731545

According to the press release Joon is going to fly 4x daily, which I believe is the same frequency AF has. Besides, the departure times are the same as AF's. Of course no mention that this is a replacement for the AF flights, the press release makes it sound as a expansion.

Yes, it’s a replacement. It’s just very typical for Swedavia. They make it sound like an increase, when this is actually a downgrade (atleast in my own opinion), from the real Air France to Joon...


Definitely a downgrade. Also, find it funny how they spin the news and say that Joon is "geared towards younger travelers". I guess those "older" pax will have to find other ways to fly to CDG, and of course no access to the great AF network ;).
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:04 pm

Primera Air is filing for bankruptcy and will cease all operations. This is pretty sad as they only recently started to grow. They even planned to launch several new Trans-Atlantic routes. What if Finnair or SAS bought those 5 Airbus A321neos?

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Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:46 pm

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Tuifly Nordic will close their bases in Oslo, Malmö and Helsinki. With Norwegian and JetTime operating charter flights From (presumably) next year.

Norwegian has opened Fast Track recruitment for Tuifly Nordic flight deck.

https://centreforaviation.com/news/norwegian-and-jet-time-to-takeover-tuifly-nordics-copenhagen-helsinki-and-oslo-routes-838727


I wonder if TUI Nordic are having second thoughts about closing their bases after the events with Primera... Norwegian and JetTime will have rather more ability now to determmine what price TUI should be paying to carry people to/from the Mediterranean.

Novair are tiny. Wideroe haven't got aircraft suitable for this market. SAS are unlikely to have masses of spare aircraft available for charter for the summer season. Sure there are other carriers, but when you have a large number of people expecting a flight to Crete in July, charter aircraft availability at a cheap price can be a bit of a problem
 
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Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:27 am

DAT's first new ATR-72-600 was delivered a few days ago, although still white, so was sent to EMA for paint

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Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:07 pm

I believe the consequences of Primera ceasing operations are going to be limited. The operations were pretty much very divided into several airports, which helps not to have pax stranded with zero options just in one place. I don't have the exact numbers for Primera in CPH, which I believe must have been its biggest centre for operations, but I'd say most of its regular routes are already pretty well served by other carriers, i.e Norwegian, Ryanair, SAS, etc. The long haul network was also incipient.

TUI probably will remain committed to the operations in Scandinavia. The main change here was just to shut down the bases.
 
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Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:13 pm

Like mentioned in another thread, WOW air will drop ARN (and EDI and SFO) in November for the duration of the winter. Flights are supposed to recommence in April, but it remains to be seen if the airline survives until then.
 
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Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:58 pm

Seems like Nordica/Regional Jet OU plan to fly an CRJ-900 on behalf of SAS on a long term basis as ES-ACM now is painted in full SAS colours

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9080859
 
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Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:35 pm

Believe SK will have several leased in frames across the winter schedule ... as per press realise in Sept.
anybody have anymore info...?
 
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Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:09 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Seems like Nordica/Regional Jet OU plan to fly an CRJ-900 on behalf of SAS on a long term basis as ES-ACM now is painted in full SAS colours

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9080859


The irony. This was one of the original SAS CRJs that was phased out, and operated for a long while in basic SAS markings despite having been transferred to Nordica.
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:27 am

Cathay ends its service to CPH as of S19. Bad news.
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:06 am

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Cathay ends its service to CPH as of S19. Bad news.


Not totally correct. As Cathay doesn't fly HKG-CPH during winter, and will not be coming back for the summer 2019. Last Cathay flight to CPH will be 26OCT 2018. SK starts CPH-HKG two days later, and that is a year-round destination
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:08 am

Icelandair is negotiating with the creditors in one one of their bonds, as poor results has put them in danger of breaching one or more of their covenants

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/ ... ml?print=1

Reference is made to the revised EBITDA forecast of Icelandair Group (the “Company”) published on August 27th 2018 and the Company’s USD 190 million senior unsecured bonds carrying ISIN NO0010776982 (the "Bonds"). Due to the revised EBITDA forecast, there is a risk of non-compliance with the gross leverage covenants in clauses 12 (b) and 12 (c) of the terms and conditions for the Bonds, which will be measured by reference to the Company's interim accounts for the third quarter to be published by the end of November 2018. Today, the Company initiated discussions with bondholders representing more than 50% of the Bonds.
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:33 pm

ARN September 2018

Domestic: 464,805 (-8.4%)
International: 1,922,476 (+0.8%)
Total: 2,387,281 (-1.1%)
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:03 pm

Does anyone have numbers regarding Pimera Air pax out of CPH? Would have been there where they concentrated the most of its operations?
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:06 pm

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Ryanair tried a route from Skelleftea to London in 2014/2015 - it was intended to pick up pax for Umea and Lulea as well. They ended up having to sell the tickets, particularly in winter, very very cheaply in order to fill the plane and the route was cut fairly quickly. I imagine Ryanair also received marketing support payments from either Skelleftea airport or some local Govt entity but Ryanair still couldn't make it work


Interestingly, apart from the fact Ryanair has never tried KEF (don't know the reason yet) even though the tourism boom which has hit Iceland for a quite few seasons now, Ryanair seems not to like any northern destination in Scandinavia other than capital cities. They have just limited operations in Haugesund, and that's all along the Norwegian coastline, nothing else in northern Sweden, neither in Finland. Why?
 
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Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:15 am

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Ryanair will launch two new routes from GOT starting april 2019:
*Gothenburg-Prague, 2 weekly
*Gothenburg-Manchester, 2 weekly

At the same time Malta will increase from 1 to 2 weekly and Edinburgh will become a year-around route this winter.

The new additions bring Ryanairs number of destinations from GOT to 15!

And yesterday they announced 3 weekly GOT-BCN. The third new route announced in a week from Gothenburg!

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davidjohnson6 wrote:
Ryanair tried a route from Skelleftea to London in 2014/2015 - it was intended to pick up pax for Umea and Lulea as well. They ended up having to sell the tickets, particularly in winter, very very cheaply in order to fill the plane and the route was cut fairly quickly. I imagine Ryanair also received marketing support payments from either Skelleftea airport or some local Govt entity but Ryanair still couldn't make it work


Ryanair seems not to like any northern destination in Scandinavia other than capital cities.

Not many northern? Agreed.
Only the capitals? Hardly! They have 16 destinations from GOT from example and even have a base at the airport...
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Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:02 am

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Does anyone have numbers regarding Pimera Air pax out of CPH? Would have been there where they concentrated the most of its operations?


No exact numbers from CPH. But Primear Air operated out of several Danish airports, at least CPH, BLL and AAL. BLL was probably the bigger one.

By far the major part of their Danish business was for tour operators, the major customer being Bravo Tours. Bravo Tours has done an excellent job to get pax back home, and to rebook future travellers on alternative flights, all with minimal delays. Haven't heard that other tour operators have acted differently. No Monach style chaos here, like in Britain exactly a year ago.
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Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:31 am

With the demise of Monarch and Primera, and the forecast of more medium-sized airlines possibly going bankrupt, how are SK and AY reacting to this? Rejoicing with a bigger piece of market share or becoming timid of rising fuel prices?

https://airlinerwatch.com/more-airlines ... ve-months/

*I take the article with a grain of salt, but it is serious to think about nonetheless.
 
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Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:00 am

tkoenig95 wrote:
With the demise of Monarch and Primera, and the forecast of more medium-sized airlines possibly going bankrupt, how are SK and AY reacting to this? Rejoicing with a bigger piece of market share or becoming timid of rising fuel prices?

https://airlinerwatch.com/more-airlines ... ve-months/

*I take the article with a grain of salt, but it is serious to think about nonetheless.

It has also been mentioned at a.net that WOW air would be in financial problems. And within last few years (as we know) Norwegian has faced some speculation on the same issue. Hopefully, there's nothing to worry about.
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Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:21 am

How come Ryanair keeps on expanding at GOT? Aren't they bothered by the new government tax?

Could Icelandair's bad results be due to WOW's aggressive expansion at KEF? I am sure they were affected to a certain extent.
 
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Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:40 am

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Seems like Nordica/Regional Jet OU plan to fly an CRJ-900 on behalf of SAS on a long term basis as ES-ACM now is painted in full SAS colours

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9080859


For the moment it is at least for the full month of October, but the rumor is SAS is happy with the performance of the Nordica ATR operations in CPH (after a bit of rough beginnings) and this may be testing the waters for more.

And yes, it’s an ex-Cimber bird that used to be in SAS livery, so it was probably easier to get it back in full livery as “Johan Viking” than to make up some partial/hybrid livery.
 
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Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:09 pm

Apparently, China Southern Airlines plans to open 9 new routes to Europe from Guangzhou within next two years, including Copenhagen and Helsinki! Other cities mentioned are Frankfurt, Istanbul, Madrid, Milan, Rome, Saint Petersburg and Vienna. CZ actually flies to Rome from CAN already, but via Wuhan.

This is great news if this will materialize!

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Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:15 pm

And I think no one has mentioned that China Eastern suspends PVG-ARN route for next winter season.

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Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:34 am

New SK S19 routes from Denmark:

CPH-CTA 3x weekly operated by an A319. Starting April 6th.

CPH-NQY 1x weekly operated by a CRJ-900. Starting July 1st.

CPH-FLR 3x weekly operated by an A319. Starting April 11th.

CPH-MRS 2x weekly operated by a Boeing 737. Starting June 29th.

CPH-SZZ 2x weekly operated by an ATR 72. Starting April 1st.

AAR-FAO 1x weekly operated by an A320. Starting April 6th.

AAR-FCO 1x weekly operated by a CRJ-900. Starting April 14th.
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Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:43 am

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CPH-MRS 2x weekly operated by a Boeing 737. Starting June 29th.


Is this by SAS' own 737s, or by JetTime?
 
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Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:55 am

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Apparently, China Southern Airlines plans to open 9 new routes to Europe from Guangzhou within next two years, including Copenhagen and Helsinki!

This is great news if this will materialize!

Yes, it will most certainly come true just like the examples of Lucky Air and Beijing Capital Airlines have shown! And you could probably add Tibet Airlines to that list as well.

The route makes zero sense in the current situation and especially with AY already on the route. It would not surprise me if that was simply an error in translation.
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Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:57 am

VSMUT wrote:
SASViking wrote:
CPH-MRS 2x weekly operated by a Boeing 737. Starting June 29th.


Is this by SAS' own 737s, or by JetTime?


By one of their own. They are also starting ARN-MRS, so it's likely to be an ARN-MRS-CPH-MRS-ARN rotation. The exact schedule isn't available until tomorrow
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:02 pm

SASViking wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
SASViking wrote:
CPH-MRS 2x weekly operated by a Boeing 737. Starting June 29th.


Is this by SAS' own 737s, or by JetTime?


By one of their own. They are also starting ARN-MRS, so it's likely to be an ARN-MRS-CPH-MRS-ARN rotation. The exact schedule isn't available until tomorrow


Wow, that's going to be a long day at work. It's going to get pretty close to the flight duty limitations.
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:32 pm

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Apparently, China Southern Airlines plans to open 9 new routes to Europe from Guangzhou within next two years, including Copenhagen and Helsinki!

This is great news if this will materialize!

Yes, it will most certainly come true just like the examples of Lucky Air and Beijing Capital Airlines have shown! And you could probably add Tibet Airlines to that list as well.

The route makes zero sense in the current situation and especially with AY already on the route. It would not surprise me if that was simply an error in translation.

Haha, very funny. I think China Southern is more likely than those other Chinese carriers as CZ would probably get the permission to operate to Finland easier than Lucky Air, Beijing Capital Airlines or Tibet Airlines as CZ already flies to Europe and is much bigger airline with probably better ties with CAAC. I wouldn't say "the route makes zero sense" either if you look at what CZ is doing at CAN, not to mention that Guangzhou metropolitan area is one of the largest in Asia by population. As Finland is getting more and more popular, especially among the Chinese, I believe China Southern will come to HEL sooner or later, given also their huge growth plan.
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