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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu May 31, 2018 3:48 am

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Norwegian adds capacity by 42% from HEL next winter:

- new route to AGA (Agadir)
- additional frequencies to AGP, LGW, KRK and RAK.

The biggest increase will be AGP going from 9x weekly to 16x weekly.

PS. Something I've wondered recently is why DY seems to quite often release new information in the evenings instead of the more traditional daytime...

Great to see Norwegian expanding at HEL. Recently, DY has been adding a new destination to its HEL network every 6-8 month.
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu May 31, 2018 9:20 am

Norwegian's other winter additions:

ARN
- new route to TLL (3x weekly)
- more frequencies to: Nice, Larnaca, Budapest, Marrakesh, Tel Aviv, Krakow, Palma, Malaga, Dubai, London, Riga, Vilnius

GOT
- more frequencies to: London och Malaga

CPH
- more frequencies to: Las Palmas, Tenerife, Alicante, Malaga, Palma, Nice, Krakow, Funchal (Madeira), Tel Aviv, Budapest, Malta
- Larnaca becomes a year-round route

https://media.norwegian.com/se/#/pressr ... er-2524350
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu May 31, 2018 9:58 am

interesting TLL ARN will have SK/LO/BT daily and now also DY... I remember when there wasn't a single daily flight for sometiemes when OV went belly up. I guess the fares will be trash and somebody will withdraw (BT? LO?)
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu May 31, 2018 10:12 am

Kikko19 wrote:
Nami wrote:
HELyes wrote:
Great to get AY A350 to DXB, even if just twice a week. The problem is the mixed product of A321ER/A350 to DXB, their A321ER cabin is rather LCC-ish, quite spartan.

That’s very much true and confusing to the passengers. It’s basically going to be five poor flights and two better ones with real J for those who travel in business class. But for economy they should revisit the whole concept, 6 hours is a rather long flight with no food.

It looks like the other additional A350 frequency is on sunday mornings, so two flights on sundays.

doesn't AY serve food anymore in EU? 6 hours in a a321 is luxury compared of the 6 in FZ 737... of course likely EK will step in (which acft is the question!).


You can pre-order a warm meal for 12 euros. Or buy snacks on board from the Sky Bistro menu. For DXB and the Canaries I always order the food.

Norwegian had no warm meals available for HEL-DXB, not even through pre-order. Given the longer flight time (7 hrs) due to avoiding Russian airspace, that is really stretching it.
 
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Thu May 31, 2018 10:32 am

kruiseri wrote:
Kikko19 wrote:
Nami wrote:
That’s very much true and confusing to the passengers. It’s basically going to be five poor flights and two better ones with real J for those who travel in business class. But for economy they should revisit the whole concept, 6 hours is a rather long flight with no food.

It looks like the other additional A350 frequency is on sunday mornings, so two flights on sundays.

doesn't AY serve food anymore in EU? 6 hours in a a321 is luxury compared of the 6 in FZ 737... of course likely EK will step in (which acft is the question!).


You can pre-order a warm meal for 12 euros. Or buy snacks on board from the Sky Bistro menu. For DXB and the Canaries I always order the food.

Norwegian had no warm meals available for HEL-DXB, not even through pre-order. Given the longer flight time (7 hrs) due to avoiding Russian airspace, that is really stretching it.


that will apply also when the flight will be op by the a359? IMHO AY would have the edge if they would include the meal for such long flight, TP for example still serves hot meals if the flight is longer than 4.5 hours (so in Eu only to HEL)... But I understand DXB, as canary or Egypt is a tourist destination and with kinda-of-low yields.
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu May 31, 2018 10:42 am

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Actually seems like Norwegian is axing OAK and LAS from Oslo and Copenhagen as well. I think they just made a bigger deal about it in Sweden due to election in September and the newly introduced aviation tax.


That sounds like probable explanation. Especially considering that Norwegian now have plans to expand in ARN.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:07 am

According to CAPA, Finnair plans to increase flights to Nice from 5 to 6 weekly and Biarritz from 1 to 2 weekly flights in S19.

Norwegian will increase flights from HEL to Rome-Fiumicino from 3 to 4 weekly flights and from both ARN and OSL the number of weekly flights increases from 6 to 7 in S19. (Italiavola.com)

AND

Apparently, Nordica considers starting a cooperation with Finnair.

Instead of looking south to the Baltics, Tamm (the CEO of Nordica) sees greater potential north in Helsinki, Finland’s capital. As a member of the oneworld alliance, Finnair might not seem an obvious choice of partner for Star-allied Nordica.

But the Finnish flag carrier has been forced to take full ownership of Norra, its regional subsidiary, twice in the past four years. With Finnair’s management insisting that Norra can only survive as a joint venture, alternative white-label arrangements could soon be considered.

“Of course it’s a question for Finnair, but why not?” Tamm says. “Finnair is a perfect partner due to the geographical closeness and also the cultural closeness … Let’s say we are monitoring the situation.”

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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:27 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Norwegian will increase flights from HEL to Rome-Fiumicino from 3 to 4 weekly flights and from both ARN and OSL the number of weekly flights increases from 6 to 7 in S19. (Italiavola.com)


Where in the source is S19 mentioned ?

Furthermore HEL-FCO is already a 6x weekly operation this summer and the booking engine shows 5x next winter season.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:41 am

Nami wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Norwegian will increase flights from HEL to Rome-Fiumicino from 3 to 4 weekly flights and from both ARN and OSL the number of weekly flights increases from 6 to 7 in S19. (Italiavola.com)


Where in the source is S19 mentioned ?

Furthermore HEL-FCO is already a 6x weekly operation this summer and the booking engine shows 5x next winter season.

Sorry, it isn't mentioned anywhere. It's not for S19 but for the next winter season. However, that is seemly still incorrect :scratchchin:
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:24 am

Not sure if already mentioned but this was said by AAB recently:

Al Baker also indicated that the airline would programme a new Lisbon service "once we get the slot that we have requested", and that there were plans for an additional Scandinavian destination which he was unprepared to name.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ck-448790/

Can it be any other than GOT?
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:58 am

Nami wrote:
Not sure if already mentioned but this was said by AAB recently:

Al Baker also indicated that the airline would programme a new Lisbon service "once we get the slot that we have requested", and that there were plans for an additional Scandinavian destination which he was unprepared to name.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ck-448790/

Can it be any other than GOT?

If Akbar Al Baker didn't know that Iceland is not a Scandinavian country, the new destination could be KEF. But I think he knows so it's presumably GOT.
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:11 am

He would have said a new "nordic" destination in case he meant KEF? When you look at the top5 Nordic Airports Y17:

1.CPH
2.OSL
3.ARN
4.HEL
5.KEF

GOT only comes after KEF, so likely to welcome the new Qatar flight. 7th position is for BGO, which I assume isn't as ready as GOT.

Qatar seems to have done an excellent job of picking up the market of secondary cities in Europe!!!
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:35 am

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He would have said a new "nordic" destination in case he meant KEF? When you look at the top5 Nordic Airports Y17:

1.CPH
2.OSL
3.ARN
4.HEL
5.KEF

GOT only comes after KEF, so likely to welcome the new Qatar flight. 7th position is for BGO, which I assume isn't as ready as GOT.

Qatar seems to have done an excellent job of picking up the market of secondary cities in Europe!!!

Don't know. Kef is mostly transit airport. Unless Qr doesn't codeshare with Fi or Ww it does not make sense. Got area instead has big population and rich as well.
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:46 pm

Any news on who will be flying the PSO routes for Amapolaflyg ...?
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:00 pm

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Any news on who will be flying the PSO routes for Amapolaflyg ...?


No official news on afaik, but their website sends you to Direktflyg if you want to book tickets, so it might be AIS Airlines with Jetstreams.
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:28 pm

TK's investor relations site states this:

28.05.2018 - Public Disclosures
The Incorporation has decided to start operating scheduled flights, based on market conditions, to Rovaniemi of Finland.

http://investor.turkishairlines.com/en/ ... osures-739

"based on market conditions" is the key here, but I guess it would be safe to assume that these would be winter seasonal "Santa flights".
 
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Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:15 am

I noticed that Japan Airlines had added one new seat configuration to 787-8 and two to 787-9 for international flights. Boeing 787-8 Dreamliners are/will be equipped with three different seat configurations: 161 / 186 / 206 and the larger 787-9 with 195 / 203 / 239 seats. So, JAL could finally increase capacity to HEL while operating with the same equipment and doesn't have to add flights. I don't expect to see Japan Airlines' Boeing 777 or any larger aircraft than 787 at HEL but it's now more likely that JAL would increase capacity at HEL. Of course, it depends on demand etc.

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Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:58 am

What effect will have the taxes applied by Sweden to air transport?
I read Ryanair will re-concentrate most of its new deployments towards Denmark instead, and Norwegian is dropping OAK and LAS from ARN. Are there more statements regarding this measure?
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:02 am

LN-TUA, SAS oldest 737, a -700 inherited from Braathens and only aircraft in the current SAS to have flown on FBU, is now leaving the fleet. Right now it is at ARN being stripped for SAS logos
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:57 am

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LN-TUA, SAS oldest 737, a -700 inherited from Braathens and only aircraft in the current SAS to have flown on FBU, is now leaving the fleet. Right now it is at ARN being stripped for SAS logos


I remember vert well that LN-TUA joined Braathens and had a model of the plane With the new Braathens livery. It has served Braathens and SAS well and deserves some kind words :-)
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:34 am

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LN-TUA, SAS oldest 737, a -700 inherited from Braathens and only aircraft in the current SAS to have flown on FBU, is now leaving the fleet. Right now it is at ARN being stripped for SAS logos


- LN-TUA delivered to Braathens in April 1998
- Fornebu Airport closed October 7, 1998
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:09 am

Widerøe is starting 2x weekly Bergen-Liverpool (Friday and Monday) with E190-E2 from August 17.

It has clearly football supporters as a key factor here, and will compete with SAS’ 2x weekly BGO-MAN
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:45 am

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LN-TUA, SAS oldest 737, a -700 inherited from Braathens and only aircraft in the current SAS to have flown on FBU, is now leaving the fleet. Right now it is at ARN being stripped for SAS logos

Remember LN-TUA as the first SAS plane I have seen in real life at my first spotting trip to OSL. Good for SK to get some newer A320NEO into the fleet
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:55 am

Some new codeshares between AY and KA.

From 15th of June onwards Finnair customers can connect with Cathay Dragon’s flights from Hong Kong to

  • Hanoi and Danang, Vietnam
  • Yangon, Myanmar
  • Phnom Penh and Siem Reap, Cambodia

These new codeshare-flights can be booked from 5th of June.

In addition, subject to regulatory approval, from 11th of July Finnair customers can connect from Hong Kong to Kuala Lumpur. Flights to Kuala Lumpur can be booked from 28th of June onwards.

https://company.finnair.com/en/media/al ... id=2946248
 
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Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:47 am

Finnair Traffic Performance in May 2018

In May, Finnair carried 1,146,300 passengers, 13.5% more than in the corresponding period of 2017. The number of passengers grew in Asian traffic (+19.3%), European flights (+11.0%) and domestic traffic (+10.0%). The number of passengers carried on North American routes grew as much as 77.3% due to additional frequencies to Chicago and the San Francisco route that was opened already in May this year.

Finnair's overall capacity measured in Available Seat Kilometres (ASK) increased in May by 21.5% year-on-year, showing a record high ASK growth. Finnair's traffic measured in Revenue Passenger Kilometres (RPKs) grew less, by 18.8%. The high ASK growth rate was reflected in the Passenger Load Factor (PLF), which decreased year-on-year by 1.8 points to 79.5%.


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Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:05 pm

HEL statistics for May 2018
Strong growth continues.

Domestic: 226,409 (+7.5%)
International: 1,581,420 (+12.2%)
Total: 1,807,829 (+11.6%)

YTD:

Domestic: 1,371,890 (+9.4%)
International: 6,790,701 (+12.6%)
Total: 8,162,591 (+12.0%)
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:44 pm

Although flights between RVN and PEK are now legally possible, I'm skeptical that we will ever see scheduled Lapland-China flights.

It's however an interesting prospect, and Finnair's CEO played with the idea back in last December:

https://www.lapinkansa.fi/lappi/finnair ... 200624813/

Finnair can fly from Rovaniemi directly to Beijing in 2019, believes CEO - Lapland is more attractive to Asians than Paris, Rome or Milan

Finnair's direct scheduled flights between Beijing and Rovaniemi may be possible in 2019.

The route became possible in April when China and Finland agreed on a new air transport agreement. Since then, Finnair has worked hard with tour operators in both Finland and China.

Finnair has not yet made a decision. It will investigate whether it is reasonable to open a route. It aims to make a decision in one direction or another during next year.

"Probably in the coming summer we will bring quite a lot of journalists from China and the idea will be launched at China's end to see if the route is in demand", estimates Finnair CEO Pekka Vauramo.

"The goal is to fly all year round."

A bit intriguing he said they would prefer to fly year-round as that sounds maybe a bit too far-fetched. Or maybe the whole thing was just mere lip service for a Lappish newspaper in order to speed up investments and ensure sufficient accommodation capacity in the peak winter period.

Currently about 10% of the daily cargo that AY handles is fish and most if not all of it comes from Norway, and that would come into the picture here as well. However that would probably require some sort of an investment at RVN.

Currently the cross-border Lapland network is virtually non-existent, but perhaps some day in the future something like RVN-TOS might work in the winter if Arctic tourism keeps growing as it has grown over the past years.
 
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:24 am

QuawerAir wrote:
HEL statistics for May 2018
Strong growth continues.

Domestic: 226,409 (+7.5%)
International: 1,581,420 (+12.2%)
Total: 1,807,829 (+11.6%)

YTD:

Domestic: 1,371,890 (+9.4%)
International: 6,790,701 (+12.6%)
Total: 8,162,591 (+12.0%)


Do you have any ideas on the loads to the US and any future OSL-ORD route?
 
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:28 am

nomorerjs wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
HEL statistics for May 2018
Strong growth continues.

Domestic: 226,409 (+7.5%)
International: 1,581,420 (+12.2%)
Total: 1,807,829 (+11.6%)

YTD:

Domestic: 1,371,890 (+9.4%)
International: 6,790,701 (+12.6%)
Total: 8,162,591 (+12.0%)


Do you have any ideas on the loads to the US and any future OSL-ORD route?

From HEL? The load factor on the route to SFO is around 90%, I think. Routes from HEL to JFK and MIA have likely a LF of around 80%, ORD might be around 85-90%. But I'm not sure.

I find OSL-ORD possible even though IAD and SFO are in the Top 10 on the list of unserved routes from Norway while ORD is not (See: Avinor). United Airlines might not be interested in serving OSL at the moment, but SK or AA could launch this route. DY could as well but not any time soon.
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:18 am

BRA has taken over two of Nextjet's routes. SDL-GOT, that will be flown with an ATR 72, and the route to Jönköping (JKG) that will be flown with a Fokker 50. The Jönköping route will also be moved from ARN to BRA's hub at BMA.
 
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:23 am

TUGMASTER wrote:
Any news on who will be flying the PSO routes for Amapolaflyg ...?


Now there is. Hemavan-Kramfors-Stockholm will be flown by Sprint Air using a SAAB 340. Vilhelmina-Lycksele-Stockholm Arlanda, will be flown by DAT, Danish Air Transport, with an ATR 42.
 
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:19 pm

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BRA has taken over two of Nextjet's routes. SDL-GOT, that will be flown with an ATR 72, and the route to Jönköping (JKG) that will be flown with a Fokker 50. The Jönköping route will also be moved from ARN to BRA's hub at BMA.


Will JKG then by operated by Amapola or is the Fokker 50 being sourced from somewhere else?
 
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:19 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Bostrom wrote:
BRA has taken over two of Nextjet's routes. SDL-GOT, that will be flown with an ATR 72, and the route to Jönköping (JKG) that will be flown with a Fokker 50. The Jönköping route will also be moved from ARN to BRA's hub at BMA.


Will JKG then by operated by Amapola or is the Fokker 50 being sourced from somewhere else?


If I'm not mistaken it is operated by one of Amapolas Fokker 50s that is leased by BRA (and in BRA livery).
 
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:12 pm

Looks like DY will stop flying ARN-LAX from November. Dont know if it is only a seasonal cut, but still a bit sad to see them go from the route. Quite a few long haul cuts for this upcoming winter season.
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:31 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
nomorerjs wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
HEL statistics for May 2018

I find OSL-ORD possible even though IAD and SFO are in the Top 10 on the list of unserved routes from Norway while ORD is not (See: Avinor). United Airlines might not be interested in serving OSL at the moment, but SK or AA could launch this route. DY could as well but not any time soon.


With 18,112 passengers on the top unserved city pair, this makes for 174 in each direction per week. Unless they can attract other than these O/D pax, this could only be one of DY's once-a-week routes that high yield pax typically avoid...
 
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:55 pm

B747forever wrote:
Looks like DY will stop flying ARN-LAX from November. Dont know if it is only a seasonal cut, but still a bit sad to see them go from the route. Quite a few long haul cuts for this upcoming winter season.

Related to this; I notice it hasn’t yet been noted in this thread that DY is starting 2x weekly ARN-MCO in October.
 
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:53 am

Nami wrote:
Although flights between RVN and PEK are now legally possible, I'm skeptical that we will ever see scheduled Lapland-China flights.

It's however an interesting prospect, and Finnair's CEO played with the idea back in last December:

https://www.lapinkansa.fi/lappi/finnair ... 200624813/

Finnair can fly from Rovaniemi directly to Beijing in 2019, believes CEO - Lapland is more attractive to Asians than Paris, Rome or Milan

Finnair's direct scheduled flights between Beijing and Rovaniemi may be possible in 2019.

The route became possible in April when China and Finland agreed on a new air transport agreement. Since then, Finnair has worked hard with tour operators in both Finland and China.

Finnair has not yet made a decision. It will investigate whether it is reasonable to open a route. It aims to make a decision in one direction or another during next year.

"Probably in the coming summer we will bring quite a lot of journalists from China and the idea will be launched at China's end to see if the route is in demand", estimates Finnair CEO Pekka Vauramo.

"The goal is to fly all year round."

A bit intriguing he said they would prefer to fly year-round as that sounds maybe a bit too far-fetched. Or maybe the whole thing was just mere lip service for a Lappish newspaper in order to speed up investments and ensure sufficient accommodation capacity in the peak winter period.

Currently about 10% of the daily cargo that AY handles is fish and most if not all of it comes from Norway, and that would come into the picture here as well. However that would probably require some sort of an investment at RVN.

Currently the cross-border Lapland network is virtually non-existent, but perhaps some day in the future something like RVN-TOS might work in the winter if Arctic tourism keeps growing as it has grown over the past years.


Is it to be understood that the new bilateral allows Finnair to inaugurate a flight PEK-RVN in addition to PEK-HEL but not another flight PEK-HEL?

In such a case the route may make sense and RVN might work as a mini hub, given that there will be leisure flights from other European cities to Rovaniemi, though seasonally only. Schedules may not be that optimal, though, and I have no idea whether the infrastructure at RVN is even close to sufficient for transfer pax.
 
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:54 am

RVN is not exactly geared up as a hub airport. Furthermore with frequencies on scheduled airlines to major cities in Europe being leisure focussed (ie 2 or 3 flights per week), connections to/from Asia are not really going to work particularly well. Rovaniemi town centre isn't a bad place for a few hours but it's specific places in the countryside that holds the attraction and that takes large amounts of time to reach.
 
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:11 am

Nami wrote:
B747forever wrote:
Looks like DY will stop flying ARN-LAX from November. Dont know if it is only a seasonal cut, but still a bit sad to see them go from the route. Quite a few long haul cuts for this upcoming winter season.

Related to this; I notice it hasn’t yet been noted in this thread that DY is starting 2x weekly ARN-MCO in October.


Sure they are adding Orlando, but overall it is a big reduction with LAX, LAS and OAK dropped.
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:03 am

B747forever wrote:
Nami wrote:
B747forever wrote:
Looks like DY will stop flying ARN-LAX from November. Dont know if it is only a seasonal cut, but still a bit sad to see them go from the route. Quite a few long haul cuts for this upcoming winter season.

Related to this; I notice it hasn’t yet been noted in this thread that DY is starting 2x weekly ARN-MCO in October.


Sure they are adding Orlando, but overall it is a big reduction with LAX, LAS and OAK dropped.


Don't forget though that they are increasing ARN-BKK by quite a bit though.
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:39 pm

ARN May 2018

Total: 2 427 688 -0.1%
International 1 927 327 +1,0%
Domestic: 500 361 -4,3%


OSL May 2018

Total: 2 504 420 +4,4%
International: 1 442 552 +7,0%
Domestic: 1 061 043 +1,6%
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:21 am

CPH May 2018

Domestic: 148,802 (+1.0%)
Europe: 2,336,895 (+6.7%)
Intercontinental: 264,698 (+7.2%)
Total: 2,750,395 (+6.4%)
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC | AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO | A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 788
Next flight: HEL-FRA-JFK | LH | A321, 748
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:43 pm

Now the statistics of all four major Nordic airports for May 2018 have been released. Here are the total passenger numbers of these airports.

CPH: 2,750,395 (+6.4%)
OSL: 2,504,420 (+4,4%)
ARN: 2,427,688 (-0.1%)
HEL: 1,807,829 (+11.6%)

HEL is the strongest grower at the moment while ARN had the weakest performance last month amongst these airports. OSL is the leader in the number of passengers flying domestically, with 1,061,043 (+1,6%) passengers. I don't know the statistics for intercontinental traffic at ARN or OSL but the two leading airports in this category are surely HEL and CPH. In May 2018, 264,698 (+7.2%) passengers used intercontinental flights from/to CPH and the corresponding figures for HEL are 260,274 (+24.8%) passengers. CPH leads also in the number of international passengers.

The situation remains similar when you look at the numbers of an entire year. What do you think: what will the figures look like in the future?
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:41 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Statistics for the new HEL-SFO service last year:
Load factor: 92.8%
PAX: 24,269

The load factor is very impressive! I hope AY will increase flights in 2019.

Sources:
For PAX: data.sfgov.org
For LF: airliners.net (Please, note that the source is another a.net user: SonaSounds / post #22)


Indeed! I was quite surprised earlier today when I saw AY in fact flies to SFO seasonal, apparently 3x weekly. Is this just the second season? SFO has lots of EU connections at the moment, and most of the rest of its traffic heads to Asia, for which Finnair I don't think is an option for obvious reasons. So I guess it moves traffics O&D? Some connections to northern europe (on top of what DY and SAS fly from its Scandi bases? Very interesting anyway...
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:03 pm

Nami wrote:
Not sure if already mentioned but this was said by AAB recently:

Al Baker also indicated that the airline would programme a new Lisbon service "once we get the slot that we have requested", and that there were plans for an additional Scandinavian destination which he was unprepared to name.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ck-448790/

Can it be any other than GOT?


QuawerAir wrote:
Nami wrote:
Not sure if already mentioned but this was said by AAB recently:

Al Baker also indicated that the airline would programme a new Lisbon service "once we get the slot that we have requested", and that there were plans for an additional Scandinavian destination which he was unprepared to name.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ck-448790/

Can it be any other than GOT?

If Akbar Al Baker didn't know that Iceland is not a Scandinavian country, the new destination could be KEF. But I think he knows so it's presumably GOT.


a350lover wrote:
He would have said a new "nordic" destination in case he meant KEF? When you look at the top5 Nordic Airports Y17:

1.CPH
2.OSL
3.ARN
4.HEL
5.KEF

GOT only comes after KEF, so likely to welcome the new Qatar flight. 7th position is for BGO, which I assume isn't as ready as GOT.

Qatar seems to have done an excellent job of picking up the market of secondary cities in Europe!!!


Yes, as an employee at the airport, and as the aviation geek that I am, one tend to pick up everything that is being said and speculated around the matter.
And during the last months, many rumours have been floating around about QR coming to GOT. One source that is VERY reliable, said that discussions have been held between GOT and QR for a long time now, and that the airline is in the final stages of announcing Gothenburg as their fourth Scandinavian destination!
As long haul/eastbound travel is a big market from GOT, and with Turkish (the most "smilar" airline we have) performing very well here with double daily A321s, we're very convinced that Qatar will do well here aswell.
But even though I have the champagne ready, I won't pop the cork until an official announcement has been made...
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:35 am

Norwegian is starting 2x weekly OSL-TLV from October 31.

In addition several domestic and European destinastions will see an increase is flights the coming winter
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:47 am

SAS oldest 737, LN-TUA (LN33), a 737-700 originally delivered to Braathens has left the fleet. Leaving SAS with 27 737-700s

Boeing 737 -705 28211 33 LN-TUA SAS ferried 12jun18 ARN-BGR-…,for part-out & scrap
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:08 pm

SAS opens CPH-HKG, closes ARN-HKG as of end October.
https://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-opens-n ... hong-kong/
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:35 pm

Well, the Swedish air transport tax probably did not make ARN's case better...
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 pm

okobjorn wrote:
SAS opens CPH-HKG, closes ARN-HKG as of end October.
https://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-opens-n ... hong-kong/


Given how many people praised ARN-HKG on here I expected it to last longer than that. Moving it to CPH makes more sense given the size of their network there.

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