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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:49 am

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Any news on how is it doing the recently launched DY service from OSL/ARN and CPH to Krabi?

I find it surprising QR launching TLL. Would it be reachable on A320? That sounds kind of more realistic...

I think it takes few years before we see QR at TLL, if ever. QR use A320 to HEL, so it works fine.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:05 am

armchairceonr1 wrote:
a350lover wrote:
Any news on how is it doing the recently launched DY service from OSL/ARN and CPH to Krabi?

I find it surprising QR launching TLL. Would it be reachable on A320? That sounds kind of more realistic...

I think it takes few years before we see QR at TLL, if ever. QR use A320 to HEL, so it works fine.

Actually, HEL will see 2x daily wide-body service as of 15 December 2018.

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It's easy to get to Helsinki from Tallinn and it takes only about 30 min to fly to HEL (I think) and thus I find it slightly odd that QR plans to serve TLL. In the Baltics, they should start with RIX (even though airBaltic has the Abu Dhabi route).
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:17 am

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Actually, HEL will see 2x daily wide-body service as of 15 December 2018.

Actually QR used A320 to HEL yesterday and will use it again today so it still works very fine also to TLL. ;)
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:39 am

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I find it surprising QR launching TLL. Would it be reachable on A320? That sounds kind of more realistic...


They operated HEL with A320 so it's doable.
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:19 pm

a350lover wrote:
Any news on how is it doing the recently launched DY service from OSL/ARN and CPH to Krabi?

I find it surprising QR launching TLL. Would it be reachable on A320? That sounds kind of more realistic...

Yes its reachable on A320 as QR flew to HEL with the A320
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:42 am

ATR 72 aircraft will see renewed cabins as of 2019. Finnair will also introduce Premium Economy in 2021 for the entire long-haul fleet.

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Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:49 am

QuawerAir wrote:
ATR 72 aircraft will see renewed cabins as of 2019. Finnair will also introduce Premium Economy in 2021 for the entire long-haul fleet.

news.cision


"The rollout of Premium Economy class to Finnair’s long-haul fleet starts in Q4 2020 and is expected to be completed by the end of 2022. Detailed planning of the cabin design, service concept as well as the commercial aspects are currently ongoing, and Finnair will be communicating more details at a later stage"

Wow that was a nice surprise, sounds great! I wonder what changed their mind. The PE class comes when their A333 cabins get a face lift?
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:52 am

HELyes wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
ATR 72 aircraft will see renewed cabins as of 2019. Finnair will also introduce Premium Economy in 2021 for the entire long-haul fleet.

news.cision


"The rollout of Premium Economy class to Finnair’s long-haul fleet starts in Q4 2020 and is expected to be completed by the end of 2022. Detailed planning of the cabin design, service concept as well as the commercial aspects are currently ongoing, and Finnair will be communicating more details at a later stage"

Wow that was a nice surprise, sounds great! I wonder what changed their mind. The PE class comes when their A333 cabins get a face lift?

Indeed! The Premium Economy class on other airlines has featured wider seats, so probably we'll see the same on Finnair's PE. Additionally, larger screens would be nice (at least in Business Class in the future).
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:28 pm

It seems like Norwegian is axing MAD and DXB from HEL while AMS becomes seasonal only(?).

MAD: last bookable flight on 11 Jan 2019.
DXB: last bookable flight on 10 Jan 2019.
AMS: last bookable flight on 3 Jan 2019, resumes on 28 Feb 2019.

Usually, seasonal flights do not begin as early as at the end of February so could there be just a temporary suspension of flights to AMS? DXB was expected, unfortunately. Now I wonder, whether DY will two or more new routes from HEL to replace MAD and DXB. Interesting is that DY planned to continue growing at HEL and they just recently launched flights to Gdansk, Tel Aviv and Agadir from HEL.

However, I'm not sure, if this is only an error on their website.
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:39 pm

Norwegian just published they intend to cut routes and reduce flights the coming winter to reduce losses. I suspect MAD/DXB/AMS from HEL is part of this.

They also seems to remove one daily round trip OSL-TOS this Winter

I expect we see more reduction
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:15 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Norwegian just published they intend to cut routes and reduce flights the coming winter to reduce losses. I suspect MAD/DXB/AMS from HEL is part of this.

They also seems to remove one daily round trip OSL-TOS this Winter

I expect we see more reduction

Norwegian is next WOW. Few months ahead and they start begging IAG to make takeover bid.
 
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Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:42 am

More and more passengers fly with Finnair but long-haul flights saw rather weak growth last month:


Finnair Traffic Performance in October 2018

In October, Finnair carried 1,141,700 passengers, 8.2% more than in the corresponding period of 2017. The number of passengers continued to grow in European and domestic traffic, which grew by 11.0% and 8.3%. Long-haul growth was roughly in line with the corresponding period.

Finnair's overall capacity measured in Available Seat Kilometres (ASK) increased in October by 8.7% year-on-year. Finnair's traffic measured in Revenue Passenger Kilometres (RPKs) grew by 5.3%. The higher ASK growth rate was reflected in the Passenger Load Factor (PLF), which decreased year-on-year by -2.6% points to 79.5%.


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Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:31 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
It seems like Norwegian is axing MAD and DXB from HEL while AMS becomes seasonal only(?).

MAD: last bookable flight on 11 Jan 2019.
DXB: last bookable flight on 10 Jan 2019.
AMS: last bookable flight on 3 Jan 2019, resumes on 28 Feb 2019.

Usually, seasonal flights do not begin as early as at the end of February so could there be just a temporary suspension of flights to AMS? DXB was expected, unfortunately. Now I wonder, whether DY will two or more new routes from HEL to replace MAD and DXB. Interesting is that DY planned to continue growing at HEL and they just recently launched flights to Gdansk, Tel Aviv and Agadir from HEL.

However, I'm not sure, if this is only an error on their website.


I am not at all surprised about the axing of DXB.

They flew the route with a terrible schedule, and since they cannot overfly Russia the flight time was about an hour longer than Finnair. Their 737 Max may be a nice fit for a 3 hour flight to Europe, but 7 hours on a red eye, no thanks.

FlyDybai does it with the Emirates network extending from DXB, Finnair has decent feed at HEL end. Norwegian had limited feed at HEL but that's it. This season Finnair does it with an A350 (twice weekly), And as I understand the FlyDubai hard product is not that bad either.

The fares on HEL-DXB are now ... nice. Let's see if they go up now that Norwegian is gone.
 
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Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:31 pm

HEL was also the only market where Norwegian’s revenue decreased in Q3 even though capacity was added. They need to streamline their operations if anything.
 
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Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:45 pm

ARN October 2018

Domestic: 501,165 (-5.0%)
International: 1,833,961 (-0.4%)
Total: 2,335,126 (-1.4%)
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:32 am

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HEL was also the only market where Norwegian’s revenue decreased in Q3 even though capacity was added. They need to streamline their operations if anything.

Where you got this info? Their Q3 report says that revenue increased 16% in Finland.
Finland 322.4 278.8 16 % 955.5 824.4 16 % 1,133.2
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:01 am

I only watched their Q3 presentation video and that's when it caught my eye. It turns out the slide I remembered was about 12-months rolling. Nonetheless a bit odd in the light of growing passenger numbers.

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https://www.norwegian.com/globalassets/ ... tation.pdf
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:21 am

Nami wrote:
I only watched their Q3 presentation video and that's when it caught my eye. It turns out the slide I remembered was about 12-months rolling. Nonetheless a bit odd in the light of growing passenger numbers.

Image

https://www.norwegian.com/globalassets/ ... tation.pdf

That's strange, those numbers looks quite different than their Q3 report:
OPERATING REVENUE BREAKDOWN
Unaudited Q3 Q3 YTD YTD Full Year
(Amounts in NOK millions) 2018 2017 Change 2018 2017 Change 2017
Per activity Passenger revenue 11,061.7 8,263.0 34 % 24,866.6 18,604.9 34 % 24,719.1
Ancillary passenger revenue 1,919.3 1,498.1 28 % 4,743.2 3,589.7 32 % 4,822.5
Other revenue 406.2 312.7 30 % 997.9 909.3 10 % 1,406.7
Total 13,387.2 10,073.7 33 % 30,607.7 23,103.9 32 % 30,948.3
Per country
Norway 2,407.3 2,261.6 6 % 6,143.3 5,711.3 8 % 7,160.4
US 2,238.4 1,252.0 79 % 5,257.3 2,882.6 82 % 4,398.0
Spain 1,980.4 1,706.7 16 % 4,286.9 3,479.4 23 % 4,470.5
UK 1,621.7 960.7 69 % 3,315.0 2,015.1 65 % 2,711.9
Sweden 1,052.7 1,021.1 3 % 2,785.0 2,611.3 7 % 3,345.0
Denmark 889.3 781.8 14 % 2,155.5 1,899.3 13 % 2,316.9
France 713.6 397.9 79 % 1,343.9 695.8 93 % 955.1
Finland 322.4 278.8 16 % 955.5 824.4 16 % 1,133.2
Italy 461.1 240.3 92 % 856.7 411.6 108 % 587.7
Germany 198.5 167.4 19 % 453.2 332.5 36 % 454.8
Other 1,501.7 1,005.4 49 % 3,055.4 2,240.3 36 % 3,414.7
Total 13,387.2 10,073.7 33 % 30,607.7 23,103.9 32 % 30,948.3
Total outside of Norway 10,979.9 7,812.1 41 % 24,464.4 17,392.6 41 % 23,787.8
Revenue per country is based on starting point of passenger journeys.
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:25 pm

HEL October 2018 statistics

Domestic: 236,858 (+6.4%)
International: 1,575,501 (+8.1%)
Total: 1,812,359 (+7.9%)

YTD:

Domestic: 2,378,532 (+8.4%)
International: 15,236,870 (+11.2%)
Total: 17,615,402 (+10.8%)
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Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:02 pm

TravelNews.dk is reporting that Air India be going daily on CPH starting March 29th 2019.

Air India will new route between Mumbai and Copenhagen with 3 weekly flights.
This will supplement the four weekly flights from Delhi to Copenhagen.

"Air India flies four times a week from Copenhagen to New Delhi. The Bombay route will go three times a week in a Dreamliner, Boeing 787, with seating for 256 passengers. We started in September last year from Copenhagen to New Delhi. In the time of about a year, we have had an average occupancy rate of 80. The largest month is December, where Air India last year had a 95 percent occupancy, "says Divya Gauba, Country Head, Denmark, Air India.

https://travelnews.dk/nyheter/fly/air-i ... il-bombay/

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Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:38 pm

b735 wrote:
TravelNews.dk is reporting that Air India be going daily on CPH starting March 29th 2019.

Air India will new route between Mumbai and Copenhagen with 3 weekly flights.
This will supplement the four weekly flights from Delhi to Copenhagen.

"Air India flies four times a week from Copenhagen to New Delhi. The Bombay route will go three times a week in a Dreamliner, Boeing 787, with seating for 256 passengers. We started in September last year from Copenhagen to New Delhi. In the time of about a year, we have had an average occupancy rate of 80. The largest month is December, where Air India last year had a 95 percent occupancy, "says Divya Gauba, Country Head, Denmark, Air India.

https://travelnews.dk/nyheter/fly/air-i ... il-bombay/

B735

I didn't expect this happen so soon, even though I knew CPH would get a route to BOM before other Nordic airports. Now, let's see when Finnair decides to return to Mumbai.
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:22 am

DY is ending OSL-SJJ but will keep on operating flights from CPH and ARN though.

W6 also tried TZL-TRF but it failed.
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:46 am

October numbers for KEF
departing 266,380, arriving 253,695, transferring 328,109, together 848,686, increase over October 2017 16.33%

Year 2018 including October
departing 2,578,591, arriving 2,552,857, transferring 3,427,946, together 8,568,581, increase over 2017 13.44%
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:35 am

mjoelnir wrote:
October numbers for KEF
departing 266,380, arriving 253,695, transferring 328,109, together 848,686, increase over October 2017 16.33%

Year 2018 including October
departing 2,578,591, arriving 2,552,857, transferring 3,427,946, together 8,568,581, increase over 2017 13.44%


Growth is mainly regarding transfer passengers.
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:32 am

Nordica's route to OSL will also be dropped in January (along with AMS and LED).

https://news.err.ee/875740/nordica-to-c ... in-january
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:52 pm

Nami wrote:
Nordica's route to OSL will also be dropped in January (along with AMS and LED).

https://news.err.ee/875740/nordica-to-c ... in-january


Great news for Norwegian I guess. Yields should slightly improve now that they have a monopoly on this route.
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:28 pm

Blerg wrote:
Nami wrote:
Nordica's route to OSL will also be dropped in January (along with AMS and LED).

https://news.err.ee/875740/nordica-to-c ... in-january


Great news for Norwegian I guess. Yields should slightly improve now that they have a monopoly on this route.


AirBaltic is starting TLL-OSL
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:10 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Nami wrote:
Nordica's route to OSL will also be dropped in January (along with AMS and LED).

https://news.err.ee/875740/nordica-to-c ... in-january


Great news for Norwegian I guess. Yields should slightly improve now that they have a monopoly on this route.


AirBaltic is starting TLL-OSL

It is a bit crowded route with SK, DY, bt and lo... Also ba will stop Lhr tll as they have to fight with wizz, bt, and someone else I forgot.
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:20 pm

Kikko19 wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Blerg wrote:

Great news for Norwegian I guess. Yields should slightly improve now that they have a monopoly on this route.


AirBaltic is starting TLL-OSL

It is a bit crowded route with SK, DY, bt and lo... Also ba will stop Lhr tll as they have to fight with wizz, bt, and someone else I forgot.


TLL-OSL is not such a small market though I think it's better served by a regional jet rather than a high density B738.

Q1 2017: 26.217
Q1 2018: 26.206

Q2 2017: 32.813
Q2 2018: 40.038

Q2 this year so nice passenger growth so on average there were 222 daily, one way passengers.
 
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Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:18 am

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Also ba will stop Lhr tll as they have to fight with wizz, bt, and someone else I forgot.

That would be EasyJet ;)
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Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:14 pm

teme82 wrote:
Kikko19 wrote:
Also ba will stop Lhr tll as they have to fight with wizz, bt, and someone else I forgot.

That would be EasyJet ;)
thanks!
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Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:26 pm

And dont forget Ryanair! It's strange that BA couldnt fare well on the route given the connections it offers on its vast network, unless the flight times were not that great..It seems the low-cost war has been won by rock bottom prices by Wizz, Ryanair.etc..I just looked TLL-STN and you can fly from 65eur rtn..Also Wizzair is adjusting the flight times and days from Spring19 so they dont compete head to head with FR..That means Wizz will fly 2,4,6 from LTN and FR 1,3,5,7 from STN
As for TLL-OSL i too thought that Nordica's CRJ-900 would be better suited on such a competitive route but seems they can't make it against bigger players like SAS, DY, BT..Is Nordica by LO considered a Star Alliance partner? If so shouldn't they code-share with SAS since they both operate the CR9?
 
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Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:26 pm

Wizz Air new route from London to Tromsø: mondays and fridays starting 14-Dec-2018.
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:44 am

Finland is investigating whether Russia recently interfered with GPS signals in Lapland, endangering civilian air traffic. This took place during the Trident Juncture war games organized by NATO and its partners, including Finland. Last week Finland’s air navigation services issued a warning for air traffic due to a large-scale GPS interruption, earlier Norway posted a similar warning.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-finl ... SKCN1NG0TG
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:14 pm

OSL October 2018:

Domestic: 1 106 731 (+2,6%)
International: 1 442 922 (+2,0%)
Total: 2 550 788 (+2,3%)
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:37 pm

CPH october numbers
domestic: 148153 (-0,9&)
Europe: 2269415 (+3,6)
Intercotinental: 305785 (+11,6%)
month totally: 2723353 (+4,2%)

year to end October: 26040521 (+3,8%)
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:59 pm

Could HEL overtake ARN down the road to become the third busiest airport in the Nordic region? I am not saying it will happen this or next year but let's say in the next five years?
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:37 pm

Blerg wrote:
Could HEL overtake ARN down the road to become the third busiest airport in the Nordic region? I am not saying it will happen this or next year but let's say in the next five years?

If the growth rate remains the same, HEL might handle up to 25 million passengers in 2021. Also, I remember having read somewhere that the milestone of 30 million passengers could be reached already in 2025. If ARN continues to grow slowly with the current growth rate, HEL might become the third (or even the second) busiest Nordic airport at least in the next seven years.
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:49 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Could HEL overtake ARN down the road to become the third busiest airport in the Nordic region? I am not saying it will happen this or next year but let's say in the next five years?

If the growth rate remains the same, HEL might handle up to 25 million passengers in 2021. Also, I remember having read somewhere that the milestone of 30 million passengers could be reached already in 2025. If ARN continues to grow slowly with the current growth rate, HEL might become the third (or even the second) busiest Nordic airport at least in the next seven years.


Thank you for the explanation.

By the way, is ARN relying solely on point to point traffic or do SK and DY offer connections?
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:59 pm

Blerg wrote:
Could HEL overtake ARN down the road to become the third busiest airport in the Nordic region? I am not saying it will happen this or next year but let's say in the next five years?

I find that very unlikely in the next five to ten years. The growth numbers at HEL should slow down next year and introducing a flight tax has already been discussed in the media. It’s also good to remember that the domestic traffic through ARN is double as big. If anything, the international passenger numbers between the two may be significantly closer in the future.
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:07 pm

Blerg wrote:

By the way, is ARN relying solely on point to point traffic or do SK and DY offer connections?


Both offers connections through ARN
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:36 pm

Apparently Finnair signed a MoU with Juneyao Airlines last week regarding pax and cargo traffic on the latter's planned PVG-HEL route. So perhaps this time around the chances of a Chinese carrier actually landing in HEL is a bit bigger than before.

https://www.kauppalehti.fi/uutiset/suom ... abbceb670f
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:28 pm

Blerg wrote:
Could HEL overtake ARN down the road to become the third busiest airport in the Nordic region? I am not saying it will happen this or next year but let's say in the next five years?


Only if Sweden messes up its economy and Finland does not, which is possible though unlikely. Extending the train network in Sweden might reduce the domestic air traffic significantly but not necessarily so fast.
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:59 pm

YIMBY wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Could HEL overtake ARN down the road to become the third busiest airport in the Nordic region? I am not saying it will happen this or next year but let's say in the next five years?


Only if Sweden messes up its economy and Finland does not, which is possible though unlikely. Extending the train network in Sweden might reduce the domestic air traffic significantly but not necessarily so fast.


I still believe the aviation tax in Sweden is one of the big reasons why ARN is on a slowdown. If kept by the new government and Finland does not add more taxes, they might eventually overtake Arlanda.
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:36 am

Oykie wrote:
YIMBY wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Could HEL overtake ARN down the road to become the third busiest airport in the Nordic region? I am not saying it will happen this or next year but let's say in the next five years?


Only if Sweden messes up its economy and Finland does not, which is possible though unlikely. Extending the train network in Sweden might reduce the domestic air traffic significantly but not necessarily so fast.


I still believe the aviation tax in Sweden is one of the big reasons why ARN is on a slowdown. If kept by the new government and Finland does not add more taxes, they might eventually overtake Arlanda.


Actually the tax was what I had in mind when I posted the initial question. ARN had a relatively mediocre October, could it be due to the tax or is there another reason?
 
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:12 am

Middle East Airlines will fly to CPH also during the winter season. The route was previously operated during the summer season.

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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:54 pm

The media Check-in has announced tonight that Singapore Airlines probably starts to fly daily on CPH - change from B777 to A350.... Singapore Airlines has joint venture with SAS
 
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Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:09 am

AAR wrote:
The media Check-in has announced tonight that Singapore Airlines probably starts to fly daily on CPH - change from B777 to A350.... Singapore Airlines has joint venture with SAS

This would mean an increase of 902 weekly seats in capacity. The load factor on the route was last year 80.5%. Does anyone know the passenger load factor for SIN-DME-ARN route and how many of the passengers continue to SIN from DME?
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:09 pm

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It looks like BA will drop HEL from 2x daily to just 1x daily in S19.

Coming back to this, in addition to the current morning A350 flight, AY will fly another LHR flight with a widebody from next spring.
 
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Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:58 pm

Nami wrote:
Nami wrote:
It looks like BA will drop HEL from 2x daily to just 1x daily in S19.

Coming back to this, in addition to the current morning A350 flight, AY will fly another LHR flight with a widebody from next spring.


Or did they say they are considering adding widebody capacity on the HEL-LHR route? I understood nothing decided yet. Finnair's CCO said on the news today the weakening Pound attracts their Asian customers especially so more seats probably needed. Heaven knows what happens with the Brexit though.

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