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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:28 am

Update 16th July 2018: Slew of activities, some head for new assignment, some retirement....
Retirement
Airbus A330-223 366 VN-A375 Vietnam Airlines ferried 04-05 July 2018 HAN-SEA-GYR on return to lessor ex HB-IQP
Airbus A340-313 310 F-GLZS Air France ferried 12 July 2018 CDG-LDE for onward storage

New assignment
Airbus A330-343 978 9V-STA Singapore Airlines ferried 13 July 2018 SIN-QPG prior delivery to Brussels Airlines ex F-WWKZ
Airbus A330-223 1112 9M-MTZ Malaysia Airlines delivery 11 July 2018 AMM-KUL ex EI-GFM
Airbus A330-243(F) 1070 A6-DCB Etihad Airways ferried 13 July 2018 LETL-AUH after storage ex F-WWYF
Airbus A340-313 387 YA- Kam Air delivery 12 July 2018 SFB-AMM, N-reg canx 13jul18 ex N387MR
Airbus A340-642 1030 9H-PGS Maleth-Aero ferried 14 July 2018 AUH-BOH, 2-reg prior delivery ex 2-FIXP
Airbus A340-642 1040 2-EALA European Aviation ferried 13 July 2018 LETL-AUH ex A6-EHL
Source: Skyliner-aviation.de

PR first A350 was delivered last Saturday. Currently there are four A340 remaining in fleet, all to be phased out by 2021 in line with A350 delivery conclusion.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:33 pm

Update 23rd July 2018:
Airbus A330-203 MSN 472 EI-GEW I-Fly air-test at MEX 20 July 2018, all white, Tempus Tour decals prior delivery ex PT-MVG
Source: Skyliner-aviation.de

https://www.flyinginireland.com/aircraf ... ion=EI-GEW

Good to see another ex-TAM A332 returns to operation.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:20 pm

There are 2 A330 ex TAM at MEX
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:06 am

juliuswong wrote:
Update 23rd July 2018:
Airbus A330-203 MSN 472 EI-GEW I-Fly air-test at MEX 20 July 2018, all white, Tempus Tour decals prior delivery ex PT-MVG
https://www.flyinginireland.com/aircraf ... ion=EI-GEW
Good to see another ex-TAM A332 returns to operation.


danipawa wrote:
There are 2 A330 ex TAM at MEX


Do you have any more details/information?

It was suggested that there were three GE powered ex/TAM A332s moved to MEX in December. Each had spent the last 3/4 summers out-of-service. CDB and GECAS frames; LNs 700, 472, 466; the first two listed for sale and the last listed for lease in 2018.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:10 am

amdiesen wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Update 23rd July 2018:
Airbus A330-203 MSN 472 EI-GEW I-Fly air-test at MEX 20 July 2018, all white, Tempus Tour decals prior delivery ex PT-MVG
https://www.flyinginireland.com/aircraf ... ion=EI-GEW
Good to see another ex-TAM A332 returns to operation.


danipawa wrote:
There are 2 A330 ex TAM at MEX


Do you have any more details/information?

It was suggested that there were three GE powered ex/TAM A332s moved to MEX in December. Each had spent the last 3/4 summers out-of-service. CDB and GECAS frames; LNs 700, 472, 466; the first two listed for sale and the last listed for lease in 2018.

Hi there, I don't have much information regarding this except the fact that Tempus Group is a China-based conglomerate which has also a package tour company. http://www.tempus.cn/index.php?m=Page&a ... id=86&l=en

Apparently Tempus Tour works closely with I-Fly, previously they have an ex-EK A330-243 flying for them too.


There is a photo of EI-GEW doing air test on a.net competitor's website. All white with "Tempus Tour" sticker on.

It is good to see more ex-TAM machine returning to the skies. I understand first few PW-powered (PT-MVA, MVB, MVC and MVD) have been scrapped.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:41 am

juliuswong wrote:
Hi there, I don't have much information regarding this except the fact that Tempus Group is a China-based conglomerate which has also a package tour company.
Apparently Tempus Tour works closely with I-Fly, previously they have an ex-EK A330-243 flying for them too.
There is a photo of EI-GEW doing air test on a.net competitor's website. All white with "Tempus Tour" sticker on.
It is good to see more ex-TAM machine returning to the skies. I understand first few PW-powered (PT-MVA, MVB, MVC and MVD) have been scrapped.


thank you Julius,
attached is a supplemental working view; updates and corrections are welcome
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KrrhZ ... mezrQZfyIE

Colmux Malta's ln451 is a mystery. It is suspected that it was intended as a P2VIP conversion in 2015.

further mastering the posting charts and images is currently a challenge
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:41 am

danipawa wrote:
There are 2 A330 ex TAM at MEX

Yes indeed, the following are stored at MEX, as @amdiese has mentioned.
466 Airbus A330-203 PT-MVF TAM Linhas Aéreas F7C30Y175 01. Jul 2002 Stored F-WWKP lsf GECAS
472 Airbus A330-203 PT-MVG TAM Linhas Aéreas F7C30Y175 01. Jul 2002 EI-GEW CDB Aviation F-WWKQ lsf GECAS
700 Airbus A330-203 PT-MVL TAM Linhas Aéreas F7C30Y175 28. Oct 2005 EI-GEX CDB Aviation F-WWKB lsf GECAS

Out of a strong fleet of 22 A330-200,

MSN/ Previous Registration with TAM/ Current Status

Fifteen (15) Pratt Whitney-powered (Airbus A330-223)
232 PT-MVA- Scrapped
238 PT-MVB- Scrapped
247 PT-MVC- Scrapped
259 PT-MVD- Scrapped
361 PT-MVE- Scrapped
869 PT-MVM- Active with Turkish Airlines TC-JIO
876 PT-MVN- Active with Turkish Airlines TC-JIP
949 PT-MVO- Active with Turkish Airlines TC-JIR
961 PT-MVP- Active with Turkish Airlines TC-JIS
968 PT-MVQ- Being prepared for Malaysia Airlines as 9M-MTY
977 PT-MVR- Active with Turkish Airlines TC-JIT
1112 PT-MVS- Active with Malaysia Airlines as 9M-MTZ
1118 PT-MVT- Active with Turkish Airlines TC-JIZ
1213 PT-MVU- Active with Turkish Airlines TC-LOH (returned to TK after short stint at Nordwind, previously also with TK as TC-JIV)
1221 PT-MVV- Being prepared for Turkish Airlines TC-JIY (returning to TK after short stint at Nordwind)

Two (2) Rolls Royce-powered (Airbus A330-243)
287 PT-MSE Back with Gulf Air A4O-KD
334 PT-MSD Back with Gulf Air A4O-KE

Five (5) General Electric-powered (Airbus A330-203)
466 PT-MVF- For lease
472 PT-MVG- For sale
477 PT-MVH- Active with TAP - Air Portugal as CS-TOQ
486 PT-MVK- Previously active with TAP - Air Portugal as CS-TOR (Now stored again upon lease return)
700 PT-MVL- For sale
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:47 am

amdiesen wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Hi there, I don't have much information regarding this except the fact that Tempus Group is a China-based conglomerate which has also a package tour company.
Apparently Tempus Tour works closely with I-Fly, previously they have an ex-EK A330-243 flying for them too.
There is a photo of EI-GEW doing air test on a.net competitor's website. All white with "Tempus Tour" sticker on.
It is good to see more ex-TAM machine returning to the skies. I understand first few PW-powered (PT-MVA, MVB, MVC and MVD) have been scrapped.


thank you Julius,
attached is a supplemental working view; updates and corrections are welcome
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KrrhZ ... mezrQZfyIE

Colmux Malta's ln451 is a mystery. It is suspected that it was intended as a P2VIP conversion in 2015.

further mastering the posting charts and images is currently a challenge

Thanks for sharing the google doc. Looking forward to help.

As for Comlux Malta A330-243 9H-CLX, indeed she is a mystery. She hasn't been spotted since 2015 after being painted in beautiful Comlux livery. I wonder where she is now as she is also not listed in Comlux website https://comlux.com/aviation/aviation/fleet. https://bit.ly/2AeIofp

She must the luckiest among all 29 A332 EK used to fly.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:34 am

juliuswong wrote:
amdiesen wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Hi there, I don't have much information regarding this except the fact that Tempus Group is a China-based conglomerate which has also a package tour company.
Apparently Tempus Tour works closely with I-Fly, previously they have an ex-EK A330-243 flying for them too.
There is a photo of EI-GEW doing air test on a.net competitor's website. All white with "Tempus Tour" sticker on.
It is good to see more ex-TAM machine returning to the skies. I understand first few PW-powered (PT-MVA, MVB, MVC and MVD) have been scrapped.


thank you Julius,
attached is a supplemental working view; updates and corrections are welcome
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KrrhZ ... mezrQZfyIE

Colmux Malta's ln451 is a mystery. It is suspected that it was intended as a P2VIP conversion in 2015.

further mastering the posting charts and images is currently a challenge

Thanks for sharing the google doc. Looking forward to help.

As for Comlux Malta A330-243 9H-CLX, indeed she is a mystery. She hasn't been spotted since 2015 after being painted in beautiful Comlux livery. I wonder where she is now as she is also not listed in Comlux website https://comlux.com/aviation/aviation/fleet. https://bit.ly/2AeIofp

She must the luckiest among all 29 A332 EK used to fly.



Having its interior done in IND, scheduled to come into operation only in 2019.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:55 am

EduardoL wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
amdiesen wrote:

thank you Julius,
attached is a supplemental working view; updates and corrections are welcome
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KrrhZ ... mezrQZfyIE

Colmux Malta's ln451 is a mystery. It is suspected that it was intended as a P2VIP conversion in 2015.

further mastering the posting charts and images is currently a challenge

Thanks for sharing the google doc. Looking forward to help.

As for Comlux Malta A330-243 9H-CLX, indeed she is a mystery. She hasn't been spotted since 2015 after being painted in beautiful Comlux livery. I wonder where she is now as she is also not listed in Comlux website https://comlux.com/aviation/aviation/fleet. https://bit.ly/2AeIofp

She must the luckiest among all 29 A332 EK used to fly.



Having its interior done in IND, scheduled to come into operation only in 2019.

Thank you EduardoL for the update!
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:31 am

The Air Mauritius A340 at GYR is now engineless.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:02 am

Update 1st August 2018:
Airbus A330-243 525 TC-OCO Onur Air Delivery 27 July 2018 AMM-IST, OE-reg ex OE-IER
Airbus A330-243(F) MSN 1032 A6-DCA Etihad Airways Ferried 31 July 2018 LETL-AUH after storage ex F-WWKG
Source: Skyliner-aviation.de
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:58 am

Update 3rd August 2018:
Airbus A330-223 MSN 927 EI-EWG Standard Chartered Avn Finance ferried 01 Aug 2018 BOD-DUB for paint into? ex 5N-JID
Source: Skyliner-aviation.de

Glad to see another ex-W3 A332 being picked up. They operated three A332, one more remaining to be picked up EI-EWH MSN 891.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:00 am

Update 7th Aug 2018:
Airbus A330‑243(F) 600 SU-GCE Egyptair Cargo ferried 04 August 2018 DRS-CAI after freighter conversion ex F-WWYK
Airbus A340-313 921 OO-ABD Air Belgium delivery 06 August 2018 BOD-FCO, for paint ex F-WXAI

First A330-200P2F is now completed and delivered to EgyptAir. There are few photos at a.net rival page, showing herself in "ribs".

Air Belgium added another ex-Finnair A343 OH-LQD to her fleet. At 10.3 years young, she is one of the most youngest A343 flying around today.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:37 pm

RB211trent wrote:
Speedbirdasia wrote:
The unofficial rumor is that EY’s 332Fs are headed for DHL Leipzig.

They are taking at least 2


The First one is D-ALMA ex A6-DCD left for Leipzig today from AUH after painting.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:01 pm

EduardoL wrote:

Having its interior done in IND, scheduled to come into operation only in 2019.


Can the Comlux hangar next to 465 fit an A330, or is this being done at AAR? I haven't seen the plane outside at all.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:53 am

Not many movement for A330/A340 for past two weeks.

Update 28th Aug 2018:
Airbus A340 -642 MSN 1040 2-EALA European Aviation Ferried 25 Aug18 AUH-LETL

Ex-EY A6-EHL heading to TEV for storage on 25. Aug 2018. All 11 ex-EY A345/346 are listed by European Aviation Group for sell with complete cabin.

https://www.euroav.com/aircraft/a340-50 ... cquisition

A345: MSN 757, 761, 783
A346: MSN 829, 837, 929, 933, 1030, 1040
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:08 am

The lease on I-TALY (from EY) is being terminated. This frame, MSN 748, is one I would expect to join its brethren at TEV.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:27 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
The lease on I-TALY (from EY) is being terminated. This frame, MSN 748, is one I would expect to join its brethren at TEV.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... a340-lease

They have already spent 40 million Euro refurbishing it before cancellation.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:58 am

juliuswong wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
The lease on I-TALY (from EY) is being terminated. This frame, MSN 748, is one I would expect to join its brethren at TEV.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... a340-lease

They have already spent 40 million Euro refurbishing it before cancellation.


The government changed this year. I actually made a separate post about it...they saw it as waste from the previous regime.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:36 am

Update 12th Sept 2018:
Airbus A330 -343 978 HS- Thai AirAsia in full cs at QPG 07 Sep 2018, 9V-reg prior delivery ex 9V-STA
Airbus A330 -243F 1070 D-ALMD EAT Leipzig delivery 06 Sep 2018 AUH-LEJ ex A6-DCB
Source: Skyliner-aviation.de

> Second A330-243F left EY fleet for DHL.
> AirAsia Group is taking six (6) pre-loved A333 this year.
> Four (4) have been delivered to their Thai AirAsia X arm.
> Three (3) ex-MU (MSN 720, 773, 791) and one (1) ex-SQ (MSN 978).
> Some of these aircraft will be retrofitted to all-Y 367 layout. Ex-MU aircraft current layout is 38J 262Y. Ex-SQ 30J 255Y.
> Source: https://blueswandaily.com/asia-lcc-wide ... -10-years/
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:41 am

juliuswong wrote:
> AirAsia Group is taking six (6) pre-loved A333 this year. Four have been delivered to their Thai AirAsia X arm. Three (3) ex-MU (MSN 720, 773, 791) and one (1) ex-SQ (MSN 978). Some of these aircraft will be retrofitted to all-Y 365 layout. Ex-MU aircraft current layout is 38J 262Y. Ex-SQ 30J 255Y. https://blueswandaily.com/asia-lcc-wide ... -10-years/

Are you sure it's not 377 seater layout? The whole AirAsia X group has their current A333 config of C12 Y365, which have the same Y amount as what you've mentioned.

Cheers
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:43 am

eamondzhang wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
> AirAsia Group is taking six (6) pre-loved A333 this year. Four have been delivered to their Thai AirAsia X arm. Three (3) ex-MU (MSN 720, 773, 791) and one (1) ex-SQ (MSN 978). Some of these aircraft will be retrofitted to all-Y 365 layout. Ex-MU aircraft current layout is 38J 262Y. Ex-SQ 30J 255Y. https://blueswandaily.com/asia-lcc-wide ... -10-years/

Are you sure it's not 377 seater layout? The whole AirAsia X group has their current A333 config of C12 Y365, which have the same Y amount as what you've mentioned.

Cheers
Michael

Hi Michael, yes it will have only 367 (not 365 I mentioned earlier, I have edited my earlier post) passengers because of the exit limit. 3L/R door are smaller in ex-MU/SQ aircraft compared to their own factory built aircraft.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:17 am

juliuswong wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
> AirAsia Group is taking six (6) pre-loved A333 this year. Four have been delivered to their Thai AirAsia X arm. Three (3) ex-MU (MSN 720, 773, 791) and one (1) ex-SQ (MSN 978). Some of these aircraft will be retrofitted to all-Y 365 layout. Ex-MU aircraft current layout is 38J 262Y. Ex-SQ 30J 255Y. https://blueswandaily.com/asia-lcc-wide ... -10-years/

Are you sure it's not 377 seater layout? The whole AirAsia X group has their current A333 config of C12 Y365, which have the same Y amount as what you've mentioned.

Cheers
Michael

Hi Michael, yes it will have only 367 (not 365 I mentioned earlier, I have edited my earlier post) passengers because of the exit limit. 3L/R door are smaller in ex-MU/SQ aircraft compared to their own factory built aircraft.

Good point, almost forgot about the smaller 3LR door. But still in that case the exit limit is 375 per EASA, so they at least should have some room to add more seats.

Cheers,
Michael
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:28 am

eamondzhang wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Are you sure it's not 377 seater layout? The whole AirAsia X group has their current A333 config of C12 Y365, which have the same Y amount as what you've mentioned.

Cheers
Michael

Hi Michael, yes it will have only 367 (not 365 I mentioned earlier, I have edited my earlier post) passengers because of the exit limit. 3L/R door are smaller in ex-MU/SQ aircraft compared to their own factory built aircraft.

Good point, almost forgot about the smaller 3LR door. But still in that case the exit limit is 375 per EASA, so they at least should have some room to add more seats.

Cheers,
Michael

Good point you bring up as well. That's a good question, I shall ask my inside informant on this.
 
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:57 pm

IranianMan123 wrote:
Apparently the second A340, EP-APA has been grounded in Iran. https://twitter.com/Aerospacetalk/statu ... 2481536000


Didn't find it above, but nice to see EP-APA is back in the skies!

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ep-apa
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:14 pm

juliuswong wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Hi Michael, yes it will have only 367 (not 365 I mentioned earlier, I have edited my earlier post) passengers because of the exit limit. 3L/R door are smaller in ex-MU/SQ aircraft compared to their own factory built aircraft.

Good point, almost forgot about the smaller 3LR door. But still in that case the exit limit is 375 per EASA, so they at least should have some room to add more seats.

Cheers,
Michael

Good point you bring up as well. That's a good question, I shall ask my inside informant on this.


The maximum exit limit might be that, but there is also a limit of passengers in an area between two doors. So the areas of which the smaller door 3 is part of are affected by its reduced exit limit.

According to TCDS
Passenger Seating Capacity & Cabin Configuration
375 (A-A-I-A)

3 Type A door pairs allow for 3 times 110 and the small door is certified as Type I, so 45 passengers.
That means you can put a lot of people between door 1 and door 2. Air Asia X "only" has 75 seats there (12+63), so you loose some seats to the max capacity.

I need to admit I'm also interested how they "sold" this idea to the authority anyway, as 367 is still more than what I can come up with in my calculations. Maybe they have an exit certified as overperforming? But that would require evacuation tests. Maybe Airbus did them already in the past?

Anyway, it must have sth to do with the distribution of the passengers to the doors.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:28 am

Update 18th Sept. 2018:
A330-203 MSN 900 AP-BML Shaheen Air International Ferried 14 Sept. 2018 LHE-LDE on return to lessor ex 2-PAOL
A330-223F MSN 1164 TC-JOC Turkish Airlines Cargo Air-test 13 Sept. 2018 at MZJ, OE-reg prior delivery ex OE-IFJ
Source: Skyliner-aviation.de

Can someone confirm if OE-IFJ is really taking up the registration TC-JOC? That's the rego for the A333 which crash landed in KTM back in 2015. On a side note, finally the ex-MH 9M-MUC has a home after RJ abandoned the deal last minute.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:29 am

MaxiAir wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Good point, almost forgot about the smaller 3LR door. But still in that case the exit limit is 375 per EASA, so they at least should have some room to add more seats.

Cheers,
Michael

Good point you bring up as well. That's a good question, I shall ask my inside informant on this.


The maximum exit limit might be that, but there is also a limit of passengers in an area between two doors. So the areas of which the smaller door 3 is part of are affected by its reduced exit limit.

According to TCDS
Passenger Seating Capacity & Cabin Configuration
375 (A-A-I-A)

3 Type A door pairs allow for 3 times 110 and the small door is certified as Type I, so 45 passengers.
That means you can put a lot of people between door 1 and door 2. Air Asia X "only" has 75 seats there (12+63), so you loose some seats to the max capacity.

I need to admit I'm also interested how they "sold" this idea to the authority anyway, as 367 is still more than what I can come up with in my calculations. Maybe they have an exit certified as overperforming? But that would require evacuation tests. Maybe Airbus did them already in the past?

Anyway, it must have sth to do with the distribution of the passengers to the doors.

Thank you MaxiAir for the detailed information. I learnt a great deal! I haven't got a reply from my spy, will update soon if I have the info.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:48 am

LGWGate49 wrote:
IranianMan123 wrote:
Apparently the second A340, EP-APA has been grounded in Iran. https://twitter.com/Aerospacetalk/statu ... 2481536000


Didn't find it above, but nice to see EP-APA is back in the skies!

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ep-apa


Last year, that frame flew direct to JFK from IKA carrying Iran's mission to the UN. I'm not sure if it will be used this year, or if it will be W5 flying to JFK for UN Week (W5 has visited JFK in the past, but before I got into the aviation hobby).
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:56 am

Update 20th Sept. 2018
A330-203 900 AP-BML Shaheen Air International ferried 14 Sept. 2018 LHE-LDE on return to lessor ex 2-PAOL
Source: Skyliner-aviation.de

Following the collapse of Shaheen Air International due to debt andd tax arrears, all their fleet (A319, A320 and A330) have been flown to various airport for storage. They used to fly 5 A319-132 (all ex-Turkish Airlines), 7 A320-232 (various sources) and 4 A330-203 (ex-KLM) at the time of collapse. AP-BML is first of four to be sent to Lourdes for storage.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:43 am

Update 27th Sept. 2018:
Airbus A330-321 60 HS-TEB Thai International ferried 24-25 Sept. 18 UTP-NGO-SBD, for part-out & scrap ex F-WWKQ
Airbus A330-343 782 M-ABLO BOC Aviation ferried 21sep18 SHA-CRK prior delivery to? ex B-6128
Airbus A340-642 514 D-AAAZ Lufthansa Technik ferried 26sep18 SZW-LETL ex B-6052
Source: Skyliner-aviation.de

Glad to see B-6052 moving again after 3 years storage, however sadly to another storage location. Anyone has any idea what is happening to her?
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:42 am

juliuswong wrote:
Glad to see B-6052 moving again after 3 years storage, however sadly to another storage location. Anyone has any idea what is happening to her?

One of 2-3 locations where Airbus traded and buyback aircraft are parked.

Leased until major maintenance / inspection, or find new homes if prospective buyers (to fly or for parts) offer more than or equal to book value. Until then, they keep depreciating.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:38 am

Updates on 2nd Oct 2018:
Airbus A330-243F 1032 D-ALMC EAT Leipzig delivery 01oct18 AUH-LEJ ex A6-DCA
Airbus A330-223F 1164 TC-JOO Turkish Airlines Cargo delivery 28sep18 MZJ-IST ex OE-IFJ
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:19 am

juliuswong wrote:
Updates on 2nd Oct 2018:
Airbus A330-243F 1032 D-ALMC EAT Leipzig delivery 01oct18 AUH-LEJ ex A6-DCA
Airbus A330-223F 1164 TC-JOO Turkish Airlines Cargo delivery 28sep18 MZJ-IST ex OE-IFJ
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4

Some nice movements for A330F for sure.

Michael
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:15 pm

According to Planespotters, LV-BMT ex-Aerolineas Argentinas stored since November 2013 has been scrapped. Any idea when?
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:04 pm

sergegva wrote:
According to Planespotters, LV-BMT ex-Aerolineas Argentinas stored since November 2013 has been scrapped. Any idea when?



It was scrapped at Goodyear and had a great life with nearly 74,000 on her frame
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:46 pm

Cactuswings shows it at GYR in April 2014.

However www.visitingphx.com shows it as assumed scrapped in August 2014.

HTH
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:19 am

Update 5th Oct 2018:
Airbus A330-223 MSN 1019 F-WTBU Latecoere Aeroservice ferried 04 Oct 2018 BOD-LDE for onward storage ex VN-A378
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2

Nordwind is taking up MSN 1019, previously with Vietnam Airlines, an Air Comet ntu, Made in 2009. Nordwind is already operating two ex-Air Comet ntu, ex-RJ A332 MSN 979 & 1002.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:47 am

n471wn wrote:
sergegva wrote:
According to Planespotters, LV-BMT ex-Aerolineas Argentinas stored since November 2013 has been scrapped. Any idea when?



It was scrapped at Goodyear and had a great life with nearly 74,000 on her frame


Wow, that's...... not very much. WN is flying 73Gs with over 70,000 hours on them.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:50 am

Just peeked in, not sure if this has been covered before. How many 340's are still in regular service, it seems to be drifting down similar to the 767, soon it seems the 340 will just be a memory. Meanwhile, the 330 is still charging along, a very good plane.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:03 am

Update as on 15th cot 2018:
A330-203 MSN 811 AP-BMI Shaheen Air International ferried 06oct18 LHE-LDE on return to lessor after Hajj-flights, was last a/c in svc ex 2-PAOH
A340-313 MSN 302 RP-C3435 Philippine Airlines ferried 11oct18 MNL-CRK after storage ex F-WJKL
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2

PR was the first and last Asian operator for A343.

A340 scheduled operators by size of active fleet as of 1-Oct-2018 can be found at this excellent CAPA report: https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/ ... out-442095
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:42 am

Update as at 23th Oct 2018:
Airbus A330-223 MSN 962 VN-A377 Vietnam Airlines ferried 19oct18 HAN-LDE on return to lessor ex EI-ELJ
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:41 pm

Tomorrow (13 November), OO-SFN (msn037) will take off one last time for its final flight to MZJ. The bird will there be scrapped after 25 years of service.
Source (Dutch only): https://flightlevel.be/58195/oo-sfn-bru ... nst-vloot/
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:44 am

Etihad has sent an Airbus A330-300 (A6-AFE: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ys/Xo4auyD) to Teruel in Spain for storage, does anyone know if this is temporary for the winter or are the A330-300s leaving the Etihad fleet? At the moment only A6-AFA nad A6-AFB are active
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:03 am

Oh no, not a good sign for EY A333. Perhaps now holiday charter airline can pick up some pre-loved A333.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:17 pm

Matthias1 wrote:
Tomorrow (13 November), OO-SFN (msn037) will take off one last time for its final flight to MZJ. The bird will there be scrapped after 25 years of service.
Source (Dutch only): https://flightlevel.be/58195/oo-sfn-bru ... nst-vloot/


Over 95,000 hours on her. Not too shabby. The article claims it's the 4th oldest A330, with the third and fifth oldest leaving the fleet for the scrappers in very short order as well.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:49 pm

Spacepope wrote:
Matthias1 wrote:
Tomorrow (13 November), OO-SFN (msn037) will take off one last time for its final flight to MZJ. The bird will there be scrapped after 25 years of service.
Source (Dutch only): https://flightlevel.be/58195/oo-sfn-bru ... nst-vloot/


Over 95,000 hours on her. Not too shabby. The article claims it's the 4th oldest A330, with the third and fifth oldest leaving the fleet for the scrappers in very short order as well.


OO-SFM/N/O were the first A330-300s ever to enter service (EI-ORD, also an ex-Air Inter frame, entered service soon after)...those were ex-F-GMDA/B/C/D. EI-ORD was retired by Aer Lingus in 2011 and sold to GECAS for parts. I have to wonder if OO-SFM is at 100K hours yet.

Apparently SN is short on frames in its own livery because of this, OO-SCX has been performing flights under a Beeline callsign.
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:09 pm

Some movements this week:
A330-301 37 OO-SFN Brussels Airlines ferried 13-14nov18 BRU-BGR-MZJ, for part-out & scrap ex F-GMDB
A330-343 1226 A6-AFE Etihad Airways ferried 13nov18 AUH-LETL for storage ex F-WWKM
A330-243F 1772 D-ALEJ EAT Leipzig ferried 14nov18 LETL-AUH, A6-reg prior paint & delivery ex A6-DCE
A340-313 185 9H-FOX HiFly Malta ferried 12nov18 WAW-LIS after wet-lease to LOT Polish Airlines ex EI-GAC
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2
 
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Re: A330 and A340 write off - retirement - scrapping thread - 2018

Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:39 pm

A330-243 A9C-KE Gulf Air ferried to AMM on 14NOV.

Is this a good or bad sign?!

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