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Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:20 pm

There is a rumour that a new DY MAX route is to be announced shortly. Anyone in the know?
 
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:39 pm

in place of one of the current poor performers?
 
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:13 pm

It would seem to me that they should focus on a few key areas that offer onward connecting opportunities, whether its interline or not. Seems like DUB and EDI are best suited for that and additional growth should be at places like STN, MAN or perhaps DUS if they are growing there. Start with the stronger stuff then lets the experiments like BFS come later.
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:31 pm

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in place of one of the current poor performers?


Nae idea - "additional" suggests it would be in addition to current routes though.
 
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:36 pm

the North Atlantic airspace is reducing the separation between planes to allow more traffic in the same airspace, and you can see why, more and more traffic specially in the area close to the NATracks.

I read somewhere that the planes are restricted to 150 pax, but I am not sure about the MAX, maybe we will see some business class seats or something similar in the future if this TA flights work out well.
I guess FR is monitoring this very closely and start making calculations and plans for the future market.
 
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:07 pm

Long flights on a 737: my idea of torture
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:34 pm

hibtastic wrote:
There is a rumour that a new DY MAX route is to be announced shortly. Anyone in the know?


Is it a new destination on either side of the pond or a connecting of the dots?

For connecting the dots, ORK-SWF is top on their list if the max-8 can do it on ORK's short runway. Other than that, my guess would be something new for BDL - probably something on Ireland/Northern Ireland.

I think DY would be wise to look into PWM from DUB or EDI.
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:03 pm

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I actually had more legroom on my D8 737 than I did on my DE 767, I do wish they had some premium economy type product though.
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:03 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
hibtastic wrote:
There is a rumour that a new DY MAX route is to be announced shortly. Anyone in the know?


Is it a new destination on either side of the pond or a connecting of the dots?

For connecting the dots, ORK-SWF is top on their list if the max-8 can do it on ORK's short runway. Other than that, my guess would be something new for BDL - probably something on Ireland/Northern Ireland.

I think DY would be wise to look into PWM from DUB or EDI.


Just out of wonder by why do you think PWM would be a wise choice?
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:38 pm

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PPVLC wrote:
Long flights on a 737: my idea of torture


I actually had more legroom on my D8 737 than I did on my DE 767, I do wish they had some premium economy type product though.


If it seems true that they are capped at 150, you think ATM least they'd do a Euro business style cabin at the front. It would be cost neutral for DY, give people the middle seat for extra space and make their ticket all inclusive too. It's a bit of a lost opportunity.
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:03 pm

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RL757PVD wrote:
PPVLC wrote:
Long flights on a 737: my idea of torture


I actually had more legroom on my D8 737 than I did on my DE 767, I do wish they had some premium economy type product though.


If it seems true that they are capped at 150, you think ATM least they'd do a Euro business style cabin at the front. It would be cost neutral for DY, give people the middle seat for extra space and make their ticket all inclusive too. It's a bit of a lost opportunity.


Only the non-max are capped, from what I hear, the PVD-DUB flights are routinely 170+
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:54 pm

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adamh8297 wrote:
hibtastic wrote:
There is a rumour that a new DY MAX route is to be announced shortly. Anyone in the know?


Is it a new destination on either side of the pond or a connecting of the dots?

For connecting the dots, ORK-SWF is top on their list if the max-8 can do it on ORK's short runway. Other than that, my guess would be something new for BDL - probably something on Ireland/Northern Ireland.

I think DY would be wise to look into PWM from DUB or EDI.


Just out of wonder by why do you think PWM would be a wise choice?



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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:23 pm

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PPVLC wrote:
Long flights on a 737: my idea of torture

I actually had more legroom on my D8 737 than I did on my DE 767, I do wish they had some premium economy type product though.


My colleague who has already done EDI-PVD-EDI a few times (on both the original 738 and the 8MAX) says it is perfectly OK and he's found the experience good. It's certainly proven a very cost effective way of taking a short business trip over to MA.

As for "long-haul" on a 737, EDI-PVD doesn't have that different a flight time from, say, BOS-SFO and other routes which are routinely operated by 737s.
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:49 pm

Could this be the rumoured Buffalo servic3 finally getting launched?
 
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:33 pm

GCT64 wrote:
RL757PVD wrote:
PPVLC wrote:
Long flights on a 737: my idea of torture

I actually had more legroom on my D8 737 than I did on my DE 767, I do wish they had some premium economy type product though.


My colleague who has already done EDI-PVD-EDI a few times (on both the original 738 and the 8MAX) says it is perfectly OK and he's found the experience good. It's certainly proven a very cost effective way of taking a short business trip over to MA.

As for "long-haul" on a 737, EDI-PVD doesn't have that different a flight time from, say, BOS-SFO and other routes which are routinely operated by 737s.



Well I did many long hauls on 707s and there was nothing wrong with them but I don't like the 737s, it's a poxy plane with poxy little galleys that I had the displeasure of working in and they are kind of ok for flights up to 3 hours only. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Of course I don't mind other people loving the 737s, I understand people have different tastes...
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:27 pm

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Well I did many long hauls on 707s and there was nothing wrong with them but I don't like the 737s, it's a poxy plane with poxy little galleys that I had the displeasure of working in and they are kind of ok for flights up to 3 hours only. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Of course I don't mind other people loving the 737s, I understand people have different tastes...


I don’t adore the 737 either, but I’ve also flown many times across the Atlantic on DC-8s and 757s. No problems at all. I’ve been just as cramped on the 330, 340, 747, and 777. I don’t think a widebody changes anything except perception. Having said that, I do love the double-seat on the 2-3-2 767.
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:20 pm

I’m putting money on:

SWF - 1 Route Extension
BDL - 3+ Route Extension
PVD - 1/2 Route Extension

ISP - DUB Service (US Pre-Clearance)
BUF - 3-5 Routes
DCA/BWI - 2-3 Routes
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:27 pm

As much as I want to see more routes, I would like to see some sustainable routes.

PVD and BDL stats show a notable drop off in Sept/Oct from the summer months, Based on the BDL stats, BDL-EDI was in the 50% range for October. Ive been told that BFS is by far the weakest from PVD, BGO might have a chance since this past summers flight was announced too late to catch those that booked their cruises more than 4 months out, Though for all these routes it seems like the summer schedule should not run through the end of October.

On the flip side, if PVD can support DUB daily, then LGW should be a no brainer, I'd even argue a summer 4x weekly 788 could work.
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:01 pm

Balloonchaser wrote:
I’m putting money on:

SWF - 1 Route Extension
BDL - 3+ Route Extension
PVD - 1/2 Route Extension

ISP - DUB Service (US Pre-Clearance)
BUF - 3-5 Routes
DCA/BWI - 2-3 Routes
PIT - 1-2 Routes

BWI and PIT are on the very outskirts of the range of the Max from anywhere in Europe except the UK and Ireland (that being said, I could see any combination of BWI/PIT-DUB/BFS/EDI/SNN). There may be restrictions on DCA preventing such service. BUF is a good option, but ISP seems like overkill in the New York area with JFK, EWR, and SWF already served.
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:18 pm

Host of route announcements due tomorrow (Thursday)
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:31 pm

BWIAirport wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
I’m putting money on:

SWF - 1 Route Extension
BDL - 3+ Route Extension
PVD - 1/2 Route Extension

ISP - DUB Service (US Pre-Clearance)
BUF - 3-5 Routes
DCA/BWI - 2-3 Routes
PIT - 1-2 Routes

BWI and PIT are on the very outskirts of the range of the Max from anywhere in Europe except the UK and Ireland (that being said, I could see any combination of BWI/PIT-DUB/BFS/EDI/SNN). There may be restrictions on DCA preventing such service. BUF is a good option, but ISP seems like overkill in the New York area with JFK, EWR, and SWF already served.


Apparently with ISPs new plan (lowers gate/runway usage per passenger rate) airlines are more incised to bring service into the airport. Frontier Airlines took that and brought 12 Routes into KISP. Now American and Southwest have increased frequencies. KMYR is planned to be announced this Winter along with the long awaited TJSJ (SJU) Service.

Remember that Long Island is a totally different market with many Irish and British background citizens.

I really wouldn’t be surprised with a Seasonal (US Pre-Cleared), daily flight into KISP within the 2018 year
 
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:09 am

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As much as I want to see more routes, I would like to see some sustainable routes.

PVD and BDL stats show a notable drop off in Sept/Oct from the summer months, Based on the BDL stats, BDL-EDI was in the 50% range for October. Ive been told that BFS is by far the weakest from PVD, BGO might have a chance since this past summers flight was announced too late to catch those that booked their cruises more than 4 months out, Though for all these routes it seems like the summer schedule should not run through the end of October.

On the flip side, if PVD can support DUB daily, then LGW should be a no brainer, I'd even argue a summer 4x weekly 788 could work.


Agree but I do wonder if LGW and others will be wide body and major airport only- exception OAK/FLL but they are close to city center and/or out of 737MAX range.


Here's how I see the European portfolio.
788/9 - LGW, OSL, CPH, BCN, FCO, CDG, ARN - Future - DUS? MXP? ATH?
737MAX - DUB, SNN, EDI, BFS, BGO, ORK Future- MAN? BHX? NOC? BIO? BOD? LPA? AAL? OPO?

A321LR's could involve either list.


EDIT: My route predictions. DY/D8 is going to go for Canadian pax. BUF/BTV-DUB/EDI/BGO
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Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:14 am

Norwegian did just purchase 28x weekly slots at LGW. Maybe PVD, BDL, possibly even BUF see LGW service.
 
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:38 am

Something is up bigtime.

Seasonal BOS-OSL/CPH seems to have gotten chopped and is not bookable - found this out on flyprat.no and confirmed it via dummy booking. Recommend typing link into Google translate if you don't speak Norwegian https://forum.flyprat.no/showthread.php?t=144561


Maybe PVD is getting OSL/CPH.
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:50 am

adamh8297 wrote:
Something is up bigtime.

Seasonal BOS-OSL/CPH seems to have gotten chopped and is not bookable - found this out on flyprat.no and confirmed it via dummy booking. Recommend typing link into Google translate if you don't speak Norwegian https://forum.flyprat.no/showthread.php?t=144561


Maybe PVD is getting OSL/CPH.


I could see BOS-CPH going away now that SAS flies it

I believe both OSL and CPH are beyond the max, but OSL would be great for connections, my BGO-PVD flight had a ton of people who had connected from elsewhere (I myself actually came from OSL)
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Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:52 am

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Host of route announcements due tomorrow (Thursday)


What kind of routes? Long haul, short haul, new 737 TATL flights? Do you have a source for this?
 
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Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:12 am

DaveFly wrote:
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Well I did many long hauls on 707s and there was nothing wrong with them but I don't like the 737s, it's a poxy plane with poxy little galleys that I had the displeasure of working in and they are kind of ok for flights up to 3 hours only. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Of course I don't mind other people loving the 737s, I understand people have different tastes...


I don’t adore the 737 either, but I’ve also flown many times across the Atlantic on DC-8s and 757s. No problems at all. I’ve been just as cramped on the 330, 340, 747, and 777. I don’t think a widebody changes anything except perception. Having said that, I do love the double-seat on the 2-3-2 767.


The ceiling height, the overall sense of space, you can walk to the lavatory, stand by a door for a couple of minutes without touching the ceiling with your forehead, widebodies are more spacious, even with a bad seat pitch. The 767 is just perfect, still my favourite.
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Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:30 am

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EDIT: My route predictions. DY/D8 is going to go for Canadian pax. BUF/BTV-DUB/EDI/BGO


I don't see this. The high cost into Canada which make BUF/BTV-DUB/EDI/BGO viable are from other US markets. The taxes and fees by US and Canadian authorities to cross the border are the cause. Flying from Europe into either Canada or US are a wash even if airports like YYZ have marginally higher fees that BUF. If there was a case for that, YHM would be seeing the traffic from Europe before BUF.
 
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Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:58 am

Possibly SYR but it's a long shot. SYR was one of the original destinations being looked at by DY/D8 but they picked SWF instead.
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Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:17 am

They have a LONG way to go and large network to build before they get to SYR.

The biggest challenge is to find routes that are truly viable year round, my guess is that list is much shorter and larger, ethnic backed markets like PVD-DUB.
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Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:59 pm

I could see LGW-PVD, 4x weekly in the summertime and 3x weekly year-round.

Maybe just maybe although I don't think so, Dublin or Shannon to Long Island/Islip (ISP). 4x weekly in the summertime for DUB and 3x weekly for SNN. Both frequencies would be decreased by 1 for slow season.
 
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Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:22 pm

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Totally agree, if it does not have 2 isles, it should be limited to 2 hours. The 737 is painfull for a flight from the US to Europe or Hawaii.
 
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Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:48 pm

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Long flights on a 737: my idea of torture



Totally agree, if it does not have 2 isles, it should be limited to 2 hours. The 737 is painfull for a flight from the US to Europe or Hawaii.


Limited to 2 hours? Ridiculous comment, that would make quite a few flights worldwide uneconomical by flying a widebody on them instead .....
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Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:29 pm

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Long flights on a 737: my idea of torture



Totally agree, if it does not have 2 isles, it should be limited to 2 hours. The 737 is painfull for a flight from the US to Europe or Hawaii.

I don’t think any plane has an isle.
 
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Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:01 pm

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Long flights on a 737: my idea of torture


Couldn't agree more. I've flown CNF-PTY twice (and return) on CP's 738 and it was horrible.
Fly narrow bodies over the Amazon Forest with turbulance and rain should be prohibited.
Also, this is the hunger flight. A tiny pretzel and a can of coke for the entire 7h flight, costing BRL1800 (USD600) at that time (back un 2014).

But, depending on the price, I wound't mind. I've heard DY is extremelly cheap and if the budget is low... this is the way.
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Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:27 pm

Atlantic City could be a possible future destination. Interesting place just south of New York City, could easily draw quite a few European visitors and is well within range.

On the European end of the line, I think mainland Europe should just be possible. The Netherlands, Belgium or northern France are all within range and it's a way to escape the British APD.
 
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Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:35 pm

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I believe both OSL and CPH are beyond the max, but OSL would be great for connections, my BGO-PVD flight had a ton of people who had connected from elsewhere (I myself actually came from OSL)


Technically it would just be possible, but there's very little margin. Specially Copenhagen is about on the range limit. However places like Amsterdam, Brussels or Dusseldorf would be possible.
 
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:40 pm

I wonder if they could give BA a run for it's money on LGW-BDA? Although I don't know their ETOPS restrictions...

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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:41 pm

There's bigger fish to fry than Norwegian considering LGW to BDA and the demand isn't there for a competitor on the route.
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:46 pm

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Atlantic City could be a possible future destination. Interesting place just south of New York City, could easily draw quite a few European visitors and is well within range.

On the European end of the line, I think mainland Europe should just be possible. The Netherlands, Belgium or northern France are all within range and it's a way to escape the British APD.


There is no real appeal of Atlantic City to European visitors as it's nothing special and for anyone staying there it's usually for a maximum of two nights only and with Newark being fairly close by the demand just doesn't warrant a direct flight from Europe.

Think of it as tacky as Trump!
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:35 pm

Yes, new 737MAX TATL routes will be announced soon..
 
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:38 pm

thgsr08 wrote:
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Long flights on a 737: my idea of torture


Couldn't agree more. I've flown CNF-PTY twice (and return) on CP's 738 and it was horrible.
Fly narrow bodies over the Amazon Forest with turbulance and rain should be prohibited.
Also, this is the hunger flight. A tiny pretzel and a can of coke for the entire 7h flight, costing BRL1800 (USD600) at that time (back un 2014).

But, depending on the price, I wound't mind. I've heard DY is extremelly cheap and if the budget is low... this is the way.



Ouch, I don't envy you. I used to fly MAO- PTY on a 737-300 (with F) and it was already too much :old:
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Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:05 pm

I'm hearing it's DTW-LGW and DTW-DUB
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Re: 5 DY 737's currently over the Atlantic

Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:20 am

flight152 wrote:
kiowa wrote:
PPVLC wrote:
Long flights on a 737: my idea of torture



Totally agree, if it does not have 2 isles, it should be limited to 2 hours. The 737 is painfull for a flight from the US to Europe or Hawaii.

I don’t think any plane has an isle.



ahh, spelling police got me:) aisle then. The 737 is still an uncomfortable aircraft for longer flights.
 
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:43 am

Cunard wrote:
There is no real appeal of Atlantic City to European visitors as it's nothing special and for anyone staying there it's usually for a maximum of two nights only and with Newark being fairly close by the demand just doesn't warrant a direct flight from Europe.

Think of it as tacky as Trump!


There's no appeal of Newburgh to European visitors either, but still Norwegian flies there. Newark might be close by, but is a whole lot more expensive so that's reason to fly into a cheaper alternative airport.

Besides, I'm not so sure there isn't any appeal to Atlantic City from Europe. They call it Las Vegas on the beach. And even if it's just for a couple of days, with flights as cheap as Norwegian is offering that might be enough to justify demand.
 
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:02 pm

klm617 wrote:
I'm hearing it's DTW-LGW and DTW-DUB


If true, would this be in response to WOW Air starting the route too as well (albeit via Reykjavik) maybe?

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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:10 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
Cunard wrote:
There is no real appeal of Atlantic City to European visitors as it's nothing special and for anyone staying there it's usually for a maximum of two nights only and with Newark being fairly close by the demand just doesn't warrant a direct flight from Europe.

Think of it as tacky as Trump!


There's no appeal of Newburgh to European visitors either, but still Norwegian flies there. Newark might be close by, but is a whole lot more expensive so that's reason to fly into a cheaper alternative airport.

Besides, I'm not so sure there isn't any appeal to Atlantic City from Europe. They call it Las Vegas on the beach. And even if it's just for a couple of days, with flights as cheap as Norwegian is offering that might be enough to justify demand.


You haven't won me over I'm still with the opinion that there is virtually no demand or interest from Europeans for a direct flight to Atlantic City whether it's cheap or not. comparing Newburgh to Atlantic City is pointless as the location of Newburgh makes far more sense especially as it has a far wider catchment area without half of it being in the Atlantic Ocean.

And I know that other cities have an ocean as part of their wider catchment area but they have far more appeal than a run down second rate failed gambling destination such as Atlantic City.

Atlantic City has a huge image problem and unless that time changes the appeal to Europeans will remain the same as it currently is near on non existent.
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:04 am

klm617 wrote:
I'm hearing it's DTW-LGW and DTW-DUB


Hearing from who exactly, what another plane enthusiast!

But seeing your a huge DTW fanboy it's not surprising that you 'heard' it, perhaps it was in your sleep that you 'heard' it.
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:33 am

I just met a senior aged married couple in Jerusalem. They flew WOW from Florida to TLV. They said that they had never heard of WOW and just accepted what the travel agent booked them on. They went onto say that in over 50 years of flying nothing was that awful. (They said they stopped in Iceland?) - could that be true from Florida?
Crammed in so tight, they said they learned a very important lesson. That if they were young, perhaps they could have survived better, next time they fly over they will pay for a major airline.
My question is: at the very most bottom of pricing, are these single aisles across the pond making good money?

Second: if a 737MAX were to have 757 flat beds in F, does the weight of the seat cancel out the reduced amount of passengers- at the roughly $6000 price point? Or even a domestic style F seat?
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Re: Rumor of new DY 737 TATL routes?

Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:57 am

VC10er wrote:
(They said they stopped in Iceland?) - could that be true from Florida?


Yes, from MIA by the 330.
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