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Re: French routes news

Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:45 pm

FlySSC wrote:
Toulon (TLN) is stuck between Marseille (MRS), just 50 miles away and Nice (NCE) 100 miles aways. Both cities have always attracted most of the traffic.
The airport is originally a Navi Air Base. The Terminal was built in the 60´s on a piece of land « given » by the Navy but the Runways and ATC are still controlled by the Military.
The traffic is also very seasonal. From June to September is the super high season. TLN is the closest and fastest access to the famous resort St Tropez but during the rest of the year, Toulon is a dead city and traveling via MRS or NCE is easy.


Yet it's surprising FR has not tapped into this market. Many other small French cities have FR service (Brive, Lorient, Dinard, Tours, etc.). If FR offered a €10 flight to London, they would certainly fill their planes!
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Re: French routes news

Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:59 pm

MrBren wrote:


Didn't they already serve the route in the past with a one-stop flight?
 
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Re: French routes news

Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:02 pm

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Is Aigle Azure moving into regular operations? I thought they were mostly about charter flights?


No, Aigle Azur has been a mostly regular carrier for a while now. They mainly operated routes to Algeria from Paris and other big french airports (Lyon, Marseille, Lille, Basel/Mulhouse etc...) and then to Portugal or Mali. Now ZI is lauching a new kind of destinations such as main european metropolis like Moscow, Berlin or Milan.
Next flights :
FRA-SIN (LH) / SIN-KUL (OD) / KUL-LGK (AK) / LGK-KUL (MH) / KUL-SIN (MH) / SIN-FRA (LH)
SXB-AMS (AF) / AMS-ATL (KL) / ATL-MDW (DL) / MDW-DTW (DL) / DTW-CDG (DL)
FRA-DTW (DL) / DTW-LAS (DL) / LAS-SLC (DL) / SLC-CDG (DL) / CDG-FRA (AF)
 
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Re: French routes news

Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:35 pm

ro1960 wrote:
FlySSC wrote:
Toulon (TLN) is stuck between Marseille (MRS), just 50 miles away and Nice (NCE) 100 miles aways. Both cities have always attracted most of the traffic.
The airport is originally a Navi Air Base. The Terminal was built in the 60´s on a piece of land « given » by the Navy but the Runways and ATC are still controlled by the Military.
The traffic is also very seasonal. From June to September is the super high season. TLN is the closest and fastest access to the famous resort St Tropez but during the rest of the year, Toulon is a dead city and traveling via MRS or NCE is easy.


Yet it's surprising FR has not tapped into this market. Many other small French cities have FR service (Brive, Lorient, Dinard, Tours, etc.). If FR offered a €10 flight to London, they would certainly fill their planes!


Of course... they would fill their planes with passenger’s tickets paid by the local taxpayers...
And actually, Ryanair used to fly to TLN from London STN and DUB until 2015... when the Chamber of Commerce and Industry who was running the airport at that time refused to increase the subsidies paid to FR for operating their flights... so the « airline » closed their routes and left.

If only more airports could act that way... !
 
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Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:54 pm

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Blerg wrote:
Is Aigle Azure moving into regular operations? I thought they were mostly about charter flights?


No, Aigle Azur has been a mostly regular carrier for a while now. They mainly operated routes to Algeria from Paris and other big french airports (Lyon, Marseille, Lille, Basel/Mulhouse etc...) and then to Portugal or Mali. Now ZI is lauching a new kind of destinations such as main european metropolis like Moscow, Berlin or Milan.


Great, thanks. I didn't know that.

I wonder if they will make it. I think there is definitely room for more players on the Parisian market.
 
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Re: French routes news

Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:20 pm

FlySSC wrote:
ro1960 wrote:
FlySSC wrote:
Toulon (TLN) is stuck between Marseille (MRS), just 50 miles away and Nice (NCE) 100 miles aways. Both cities have always attracted most of the traffic.
The airport is originally a Navi Air Base. The Terminal was built in the 60´s on a piece of land « given » by the Navy but the Runways and ATC are still controlled by the Military.
The traffic is also very seasonal. From June to September is the super high season. TLN is the closest and fastest access to the famous resort St Tropez but during the rest of the year, Toulon is a dead city and traveling via MRS or NCE is easy.


Yet it's surprising FR has not tapped into this market. Many other small French cities have FR service (Brive, Lorient, Dinard, Tours, etc.). If FR offered a €10 flight to London, they would certainly fill their planes!


Of course... they would fill their planes with passenger’s tickets paid by the local taxpayers...
And actually, Ryanair used to fly to TLN from London STN and DUB until 2015... when the Chamber of Commerce and Industry who was running the airport at that time refused to increase the subsidies paid to FR for operating their flights... so the « airline » closed their routes and left.

If only more airports could act that way... !


Taxpayer money used to attract carriers has positive consequences on local businesses and jobs. So why not?
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Re: French routes news

Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:38 pm

ro1960 wrote:
FlySSC wrote:
ro1960 wrote:

Yet it's surprising FR has not tapped into this market. Many other small French cities have FR service (Brive, Lorient, Dinard, Tours, etc.). If FR offered a €10 flight to London, they would certainly fill their planes!


Of course... they would fill their planes with passenger’s tickets paid by the local taxpayers...
And actually, Ryanair used to fly to TLN from London STN and DUB until 2015... when the Chamber of Commerce and Industry who was running the airport at that time refused to increase the subsidies paid to FR for operating their flights... so the « airline » closed their routes and left.

If only more airports could act that way... !


Taxpayer money used to attract carriers has positive consequences on local businesses and jobs. So why not?


Taxpayers money must be used for public services. Not to finance private interests or companies like FR who don’t create local obs.
If Ryanair wants to do some business in and out of TLN, why don’t they do just like other airlines ? Air France, TUI Fly, City Jet and all the others don’t receive 1 single € to operate their flights.
 
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Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:54 pm

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Taxpayers money must be used for public services. Not to finance private interests or companies like FR who don’t create local obs.
If Ryanair wants to do some business in and out of TLN, why don’t they do just like other airlines ? Air France, TUI Fly, City Jet and all the others don’t receive 1 single € to operate their flights.


Indirect jobs are created when you bring people somewhere, not just at the airline.

Taxpayer money also builds airports in France. What if nobody flies there?
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Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:33 pm

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Trying to restart this thread about the new routes announced from France


Thank you for taking the time to do this. It's great having a 1 stop to see what's happening.

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Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:55 am

LEVEL during winter 2018/19 season is expanding service to The Caribbean from France, with additional frequency added to Fort-de-France and Pointe-a-Pitre. Planned winter schedule as follows.

Paris Orly – Fort-de-France eff 08NOV18 Increase from 3 to 5 weekly
IB2672 ORY1330 – 1735FDF 332 x136
IB2676 ORY1750 – 2100FDF 332 6

IB2673 FDF1950 – 0910+1ORY 332 x136
IB2677 FDF2305 – 1225+1ORY 332 6

Paris Orly – Pointe-a-Pitre eff 05NOV18 Increase from 4 to 5 weekly
IB2670 ORY1605 – 1955PTP 332 x46
IB2671 PTP2155 – 1105+1ORY 332 x46

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278078/level-increases-france-caribbean-flights-in-w18/
 
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Re: French routes news

Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:06 pm

Air France increases Fortaleza service in NW18

Air France in Northern winter 2018/19 season plans to increase Paris CDG – Fortaleza service, set to commence on 03MAY18. The Northern winter season will see the airline’s unit JOON operating 3rd weekly rotation from 31OCT18, with Airbus A340-300 aircraft.

AF416 CDG1310 – 1835FOR 343 357
AF415 FOR2035 – 0930+1CDG 343 357

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278117/air-france-increases-fortaleza-service-in-nw18/
 
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Re: French routes news

Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:01 am

Germania during the month of August 2018 plans to offer charter service from France to Svalbard, on board Boeing 737-700 and A319 aircraft. Based on OAG schedules listing, current schedule shows 2 flights from Paris CDG, 1 from Longyearbyen.

ST1022 CDG0915 – 1400LYR 319 10AUG18
ST1022 CDG0900 – 1345LYR 73W 19AUG18

ST1023 LYR1445 – 1935CDG 319 10AUG18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278249/germania-adds-paris-svalbard-charters-in-august-2018/
 
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Re: French routes news

Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:49 am

FlySSC wrote:
ro1960 wrote:
FlySSC wrote:
Toulon (TLN) is stuck between Marseille (MRS), just 50 miles away and Nice (NCE) 100 miles aways. Both cities have always attracted most of the traffic.
The airport is originally a Navi Air Base. The Terminal was built in the 60´s on a piece of land « given » by the Navy but the Runways and ATC are still controlled by the Military.
The traffic is also very seasonal. From June to September is the super high season. TLN is the closest and fastest access to the famous resort St Tropez but during the rest of the year, Toulon is a dead city and traveling via MRS or NCE is easy.


Yet it's surprising FR has not tapped into this market. Many other small French cities have FR service (Brive, Lorient, Dinard, Tours, etc.). If FR offered a €10 flight to London, they would certainly fill their planes!


Of course... they would fill their planes with passenger’s tickets paid by the local taxpayers...
And actually, Ryanair used to fly to TLN from London STN and DUB until 2015... when the Chamber of Commerce and Industry who was running the airport at that time refused to increase the subsidies paid to FR for operating their flights... so the « airline » closed their routes and left.

If only more airports could act that way... !


Wrong! FR never flew DUB-TLN. Great point btw, turn away a potential customer at your small regional airport possibly resulting in the airports closure. I’m sure you say the same about the subsidies the few US airports get for their transatlantic flights too or do you not care because they’re not flown by FR?
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Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:52 am

Pobeda adds Bordeaux link from June 2018

Pobeda from June 2018 is extending its network to France, with the launch of Moscow Vnukovo – Bordeaux route. Effective from 02JUN18, Boeing 737-800 aircraft will serve this route twice a week.

DP861 VKO0800 – 1130BOD 73H 36
DP862 BOD1210 – 1725VKO 73H 36

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278243/pobeda-adds-bordeaux-link-from-june-2018/
 
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Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:53 pm

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Pobeda adds Bordeaux link from June 2018

Pobeda from June 2018 is extending its network to France, with the launch of Moscow Vnukovo – Bordeaux route. Effective from 02JUN18, Boeing 737-800 aircraft will serve this route twice a week.

DP861 VKO0800 – 1130BOD 73H 36
DP862 BOD1210 – 1725VKO 73H 36

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278243/pobeda-adds-bordeaux-link-from-june-2018/


Is this the new "caviar route"?
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Re: French routes news

Sun May 13, 2018 4:04 pm

Gulf Air is moving forward its planned Boeing 787-9 service debut to Europe, as the airline filed one-time Bahrain – Paris CDG service with the Dreamliner. The 787 is scheduled to operate on 16MAY18, replacing Airbus A320.

GF019 BAH0135 – 0720CDG 789
GF018 CDG1100 – 1810BAH 789

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278604/gulf-air-moves-forward-boeing-787-europe-debut-to-mid-may-2018/
 
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Re: French routes news

Sun May 13, 2018 5:24 pm

Any thing to the rumor that Norwegian is looking to start Paris - Chicago service?
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Re: French routes news

Tue May 15, 2018 10:13 am

IBERIA plans limited-time A350 Paris Orly service in 3Q18

oneWorld member IBERIA last week filed additional intra-European service with its new Airbus A350-900XWB aircraft. The A350 is scheduled to serve Madrid – Paris Orly route once a day, from 27JUL18 to 03AUG18, and from 27AUG18 to 31AUG18.

IB3436 MAD0850 – 1050ORY 359
IB3435 ORY1220 – 1425MAD 359

IB3436/3435 is currently operated by A320 aircraft.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278631/iberia-plans-limited-time-a350-paris-orly-service-in-3q18/
 
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Re: French routes news

Mon May 21, 2018 7:14 am

Norwegian leases Hi-Fly A340 for France – US service from May 2018

Norwegian since last week has added Airbus A340-300 aircraft operation on service between France and the US, leased from Hi-Fly. The A340 is scheduled to operate from mid-May 2018 to late-July 2018, on following routes.

Paris CDG – Los Angeles 19MAY18 – 26JUL18 3 of 6 weekly
Paris CDG – New York JFK 18MAY18 – 25JUL18 3 of 7 weekly


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278721/norwegian-leases-hi-fly-a340-for-france-us-service-from-may-2018/
 
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Mon May 21, 2018 2:00 pm

Are the Iberia A350 flights for training pilots ?
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Mon May 21, 2018 2:27 pm

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Are the Iberia A350 flights for training pilots ?

Ya
 
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Fri May 25, 2018 12:57 pm

Laudamotion, new company at BVA: Vienna – Paris Beauvais eff 28OCT18 3 weekly

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278806/laudamotion-adds-vienna-base-in-w18/
 
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:33 am

XL Airways France adds Jinan link from late-June 2018

XL Airways France later this month is adding new service to China, Subject to Government Approval. The airline plans to operate Paris CDG – Jinan route once a week, with Airbus A330-200 aircraft. First flight is scheduled on 25JUN18.

SE520 CDG2020 – 1255+1TNA 332 1
SE521 TNA1100 – 1700CDG 332 3


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279055/xl-airways-france-adds-jinan-link-from-late-june-2018/
 
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:59 am

 
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Re: French routes news

Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:16 pm

It looks like the PSO route operated by TwinJet on Paris Orly-Perigueux is going to end on 29 June and no airline will operate it after this date. This would mean Perigueux airport would no longer have any regular passenger flights
Anybody know anything more on this ?
 
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:00 am

Norwegian expands French Caribbean network in W18

Planned new service, operated by Norwegian Air International (D8) includes following.

Fort-de-France – Cayenne eff 31OCT18 4 weekly
D84964 FDF1735 – 2100CAY 73H x247
D84965 CAY2200 – 2315FDF 73H x247

Fort-de-France – Montreal eff 01NOV18 3 weekly
D84960 FDF0800 – 1215YUL 73H 246
D84961 YUL1325 – 1925FDF 73H 246

Pointe-a-Pitre – Cayenne eff 01NOV18 4 weekly
D84508 PTP1730 – 2110CAY 73H x135
D84509 CAY2200 – 2330PTP 73H x135

Pointe-a-Pitre – Montreal eff 29OCT18 3 weekly
D84500 PTP0800 – 1145YUL 73H 135
D84501 YUL1255 – 1840PTP 73H 135


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279248/norwegian-expands-french-caribbean-network-in-w18/
 
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Re: French routes news

Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:42 am

Ryanair to operate again Dole Jura / London Stansded between 22 December 2018 and 30 March 2019.

http://www.air-journal.fr/2018-06-29-ryanair-relance-un-dole-londres-5200912.html
 
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Re: French routes news

Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:09 pm

Minor news but seems like flight numbers for KE have changed starting today.

KE 902 CDG-ICN became KE 910
KE 901 ICN-CDG became KE 909
KE 5902 CDG-ICN became KE 5910 (AF codeshare)
KE 5901 ICN-CDG became KE 5909 (AF codeshare).

Could this mean KE is planning new service to Europe ?
 
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Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:38 pm

FromCDGtoSYD wrote:
Minor news but seems like flight numbers for KE have changed starting today.

KE 902 CDG-ICN became KE 910
KE 901 ICN-CDG became KE 909
KE 5902 CDG-ICN became KE 5910 (AF codeshare)
KE 5901 ICN-CDG became KE 5909 (AF codeshare).

Could this mean KE is planning new service to Europe ?


Yes they are, see this thread :

http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1397547
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:54 am

Transavia France adds Nantes – Tel Aviv service from Nov 2018

TO4610 NTE0800 – 1340TLV 73H 37
TO4611 TLV1450 – 1905NTE 73H 37


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279379/transavia-france-adds-nantes-tel-aviv-service-from-nov-2018/
 
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Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:37 am

Xiamen Airlines adds Paris service from Dec 2018

Xiamen Airlines on Friday (07JUL18) gradually opened reservation for its planned new service to France, set to launch in winter 2018/19 season. From 11DEC18, the airline’s Boeing 787-8 aircraft will operate Fuzhou – Paris CDG route, 3 times a week.

MF825 FOC0030 – 0655CDG 788 247
MF826 CDG1330 – 0730+1FOC 788 247


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279477/xiamen-airlines-adds-paris-service-from-dec-2018/
 
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Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:28 am

I am curious to know how AF ATL-FDF and JFK-ORY are doing these days.
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Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:28 pm

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I am curious to know how AF ATL-FDF and JFK-ORY are doing these days.


I can tell JFK PAR if interested
 
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Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:44 am

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AirAfreak wrote:
I am curious to know how AF ATL-FDF and JFK-ORY are doing these days.


I can tell JFK PAR if interested


I am interested and curious if you have any information. Thank you!
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Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:59 am

Air France and Delta – 10 special flights to Las Vegas for the Consumer Electronic Show 2019

The special flights organized by Air France will be operated by Boeing 777-300 (296 seats) and Boeing 777-200 (280 seats) on departure from Paris-Charles de Gaulle on 6, 7 and 11 January 2019.

Flight times operated by Air France (in local time):

AF184: leaves Paris-Charles de Gaulle at 11:30, arrives at Las Vegas McCarran at 14:00;
AF181: leaves Las Vegas McCarran at 16:10, arrives at Paris-Charles de Gaulle at 11:50 the next day.
Flights operated on Sunday 6 and Monday 7 January 2019.

AF186: leaves Paris-Charles de Gaulle at 13:20, arrives at Las Vegas McCarran at 15:50;
AF187: leaves Las Vegas McCarran at 18:00, arrives at Paris-Charles de Gaulle at 13:40 the next day.
Flights operated on Monday 7 and Friday 11 January 2019.

The dedicated flights organized by Delta will be operated by Airbus A330 (293 seats) on departure from Paris-Charles de Gaulle on 5, 6 and 7 January 2019 and on 10, 11 and 12 January 2019 on departure from Las Vegas McCarran.

Flight times operated by Delta (in local time):

DL153: leaves Paris-Charles de Gaulle at 10:45, arrives at Las Vegas McCarran at 13:44;
Flights operated on Saturday 5, Sunday 6 and Monday 7 January 2019.
DL152: leaves Las Vegas McCarran at 11:46, arrives at Paris-Charles de Gaulle at 7:45 the next day;
Flight operated on Thursday 10 January 2019.
DL152: leaves Las Vegas McCarran at 16:47, arrives at Paris-Charles de Gaulle at 13:00 the next day;
Flight operated on Friday 11 January 2019.
DL152: leaves Las Vegas McCarran at 20:37, arrives at Paris-Charles de Gaulle at 16:50 the next day.
Flight operated on Saturday 12 January 2019.


http://www.airfranceklm.com/en/news/air-france-klm-and-delta-17-special-flights-las-vegas-consumer-electronic-show-2019
 
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Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:30 pm

A380MSN004 wrote:
AirAfreak wrote:
I am curious to know how AF ATL-FDF and JFK-ORY are doing these days.


I can tell JFK PAR if interested


AF does not operate FDF-ATL but rather PTP-ATL
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:16 am

Air France schedules A340 service to Accra / Ouagadougou in Sep/Oct 2018

Air France during the month of September and October 2018 once again schedules Airbus A340-300 service to Accra and Ouagadougou, scheduled once a week. For September 2018, Paris CDG – Accra – Ouagadougou – Paris CDG service on Fridays will be operated by A340-300, switching to Sundays in October 2018 (until 21OCT18).

AF584 CDG1310 – 1735ACC1920 – 2045OUA2235 – 0610+1CDG 332 27
AF584 CDG1325 – 1750ACC1920 – 2045OUA2235 – 0610+1CDG 343 5

Air France overall operates Accra service 7 weekly.


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279600/air-france-schedules-a340-service-to-accra-ouagadougou-in-sepoct-2018/
 
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Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:02 am

Hop will restart Lorient - Lyon route this winter as well as new seasonnal ski charters from Pau to Brest, Caen and Strasbourg.

LRT 635 - 755 LYS 123456- ER4
LRT 1810 - 1930 LYS 12345-7 ER4

LYS 825 - 945 LRT 123456- ER4
LYS 2015 - 2135 LRT 12345-7 ER4


A5 6592 BES 1420 - 1550 PUF 6 CRK 22DEC - 5JAN + 9FEB - 2MAR
A5 6591 PUF 1210 - 1340 BES 6 CRK 22DEC - 5JAN + 9FEB - 2MAR

A5 6584 CFR 1415 - 1615 PUF 6 AT7 22DEC - 5JAN + 9FEB - 2MAR
A5 6583 PUF 1140 - 1340 CFR 6 AT7 22DEC - 5JAN + 9FEB - 2MAR

A5 6490 SXB 1000 - 1130 PUF 6 CRK 24NOV - 5JAN + 9FEB - 2MAR (extendend period in DEC for Christmas Markets in Strasbourg)
A5 6491 PUF 1630 - 1800 SXB 6 CRK 24NOV - 5JAN + 9FEB - 2MAR
Next flights :
FRA-SIN (LH) / SIN-KUL (OD) / KUL-LGK (AK) / LGK-KUL (MH) / KUL-SIN (MH) / SIN-FRA (LH)
SXB-AMS (AF) / AMS-ATL (KL) / ATL-MDW (DL) / MDW-DTW (DL) / DTW-CDG (DL)
FRA-DTW (DL) / DTW-LAS (DL) / LAS-SLC (DL) / SLC-CDG (DL) / CDG-FRA (AF)
 
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Re: French routes news

Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:35 pm

Quite odd and unexpected at all, it seems that Aigle Azur will be entering the french domestic market this winter with two daily Lyon - Nantes flights. Hop currently flies this route 35x weekly and easyJet 17x.

ZI663 LYS 06:40-08:00 NTE 320 123456-
ZI661 LYS 18:50-20:10 NTE 320 12345-7

ZI664 NTE 08:50-10:00 LYS 320 123456-
ZI662 NTE 21:00-22:10 LYS 320 12345-7
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FRA-SIN (LH) / SIN-KUL (OD) / KUL-LGK (AK) / LGK-KUL (MH) / KUL-SIN (MH) / SIN-FRA (LH)
SXB-AMS (AF) / AMS-ATL (KL) / ATL-MDW (DL) / MDW-DTW (DL) / DTW-CDG (DL)
FRA-DTW (DL) / DTW-LAS (DL) / LAS-SLC (DL) / SLC-CDG (DL) / CDG-FRA (AF)
 
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Re: French routes news

Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:35 am

Alsatian wrote:
Quite odd and unexpected at all, it seems that Aigle Azur will be entering the french domestic market this winter with two daily Lyon - Nantes flights. Hop currently flies this route 35x weekly and easyJet 17x.

ZI663 LYS 06:40-08:00 NTE 320 123456-
ZI661 LYS 18:50-20:10 NTE 320 12345-7

ZI664 NTE 08:50-10:00 LYS 320 123456-
ZI662 NTE 21:00-22:10 LYS 320 12345-7


From the schedule, it looks like the aircraft is based in LYS. Is it to optimize utilization early in the morning and late evening?
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Re: French routes news

Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:32 pm

Air France to transfer SXM route to Joon as of 8/4/2018:
2x weekly A343

AF to take over on 10/28/2018 5x weekly.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/69140-air-france-to-transfer-st-maarten-route-to-joon?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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Re: French routes news

Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:04 pm

An invitation to tender was published on 04 July 2018 for the French domestic route Paris Orly - Agen which survives on a PSO subsidy. The new subsidy would start on 07 Jan 2019

The last 2 domestic routes within mainland France where a PSO tender was invited were Paris-Lannion and Paris-Perigueux; both routes have been dropped and neither Lannion and Perigueux have scheduled flights to anywhere any more. Agen has good train service to Bordeaux and Toulouse - are we likely to see Agen becoming yet another 'zombie' airport at the start of 2019 ?
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:55 am

Air Austral leases Hi-Fly A380 in Aug/Sep 2018

Air Austral during the month of August and September 2018 is leasing Airbus A380 aircraft from Hi-Fly, mainly operating selected St. Denis de la Reunion – Paris CDG route. The A380 is to operate this route 3 times a week, from 24AUG18 (Paris departure) to 08SEP18


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279922/air-austral-leases-hi-fly-a380-in-augsep-2018/
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:44 am

Aigle Azur expands Sao Paulo Viracopos service

French carrier Aigle Azur from late-September 2018 is further expanding Paris Orly – Sao Paulo Viracopos/Campinas route. Previously planned addition of 4th weekly flight form 07SEP18 remains unchanged, and the airline will now add 5th weekly rotation from 29SEP18.

Following schedule is effective 29SEP18 – 27OCT18.

ZI035 ORY1015 – 1715VCP 330 x136
ZI035 ORY1345 – 2045VCP 330 6

ZI036 VCP1915 – 1145+1ORY 330 x136
ZI036 VCP2245 – 1515+1ORY 330 6

Planned frequency increase is also maintained on/after 28OCT18.


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279945/aigle-azur-expands-sao-paulo-viracopos-service-from-late-sep-2018/
 
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Re: French routes news

Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:11 pm

ro1960 wrote:
FlySSC wrote:

Taxpayers money must be used for public services. Not to finance private interests or companies like FR who don’t create local obs.
If Ryanair wants to do some business in and out of TLN, why don’t they do just like other airlines ? Air France, TUI Fly, City Jet and all the others don’t receive 1 single € to operate their flights.


Indirect jobs are created when you bring people somewhere, not just at the airline.

Taxpayer money also builds airports in France. What if nobody flies there?


Some would argue there are too many airports in France with no hope of getting meaningful service. Precisely because they have been built with taxpayers' money, without considering the business case.
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Re: French routes news

Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:05 pm

Aesma wrote:

Some would argue there are too many airports in France with no hope of getting meaningful service. Precisely because they have been built with taxpayers' money, without considering the business case.


Good point. So what? Nobody tries to make it work? Airport closes? No new jobs? Not a very positive outlook. If subsidies can make the airport (and all its related industry) work, why be so opposed to the idea?
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Re: French routes news thread

Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:22 am

Aigle Azur adds Lyon – Nantes

French carrier Aigle Azur at the launch of winter 2018/19 season is adding new domestic route, offering nonstop Lyon – Nantes service. Operating twice daily on weekdays, one daily on weekends, Airbus A320 aircraft will serve this route from 28OCT18.

ZI663 LYS0640 – 0800NTE 320 x7
ZI661 LYS1850 – 2010NTE 320 x6

ZI664 NTE0850 – 1000LYS 320 x7
ZI662 NTE2100 – 2210LYS 320 x6


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279970/aigle-azur-adds-lyon-nantes-service-from-late-oct-2018/
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:20 am

WOW air adds A330 Paris service

Reykjavik Keflavik – Paris CDG eff 28OCT18 winter season operates with 4 weekly A330 and 3 weekly A321, replacing previously filed A320
WW404 KEF0600 – 1030CDG 321 246
WW404 KEF0600 – 1030CDG 330 x246

WW405 CDG1135 – 1420KEF 321 246
WW405 CDG1135 – 1420KEF 330 x246


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279965/wow-air-adds-a330-amsterdam-paris-service-in-w18/
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:27 am

Hop!'s CDG-TLN route seems to be doing rather well, very often upgraded to the E90!! Ive done three round trips and all were packed!! I wonder if a rotation will be added or maybe switched to mainline...
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Re: French routes news thread

Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:07 pm

Following the transfer of Nantes-Amsterdam, Air France is now handing MRS-AMS (operated with A320/A321) to KLM this Winter 2018:

- AMS 09.30 – 11.35 MRS KL1265 73W Daily
- AMS 14.30 – 16.35 MRS KL1267 73W Daily
- AMS 20.40 – 22.45 MRS KL1269 73W Daily

- MRS 06.30 – 08.40 AMS KL1264 73W Daily
- MRS 12.20 – 14.25 AMS KL1266 73W Daily
- MRS 17.20 – 19.30 AMS KL1268 73W Daily

KLM is moving the midday AMS departure from 12.30 to 14.30.

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