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FromCDGtoSYD wrote:Can't say I'm surprised, they've been suggesting A380 loads are healthy for the past year or two.
FromCDGtoSYD wrote:Heres hoping that A350s will help open up AMS or CDG again.
qf789 wrote:Malaysia Airlines says it has ditched plans for a new airline operating high density seating dedicated to Islamic pilgrimages but instead will use the A380's across its network to add capacity during periods of high demand.
Along with LHR, NRT, ICN, SYD & MEL will see A380 flights along with charters to the Middle East
https://www.ausbt.com.au/malaysia-airli ... -to-london
EddieDude wrote:I find ICN an odd choice for MH to serve with A380s, especially without a local partner. Is there that much demand between KL and Seoul?
EK413 wrote:MH is a real mess thanks to the A380. They haven’t got a clue what to do with the odd ball in their fleet.
Operating the aircraft on key routes and scheduling based on demand is a wise move. Let’s see how long this plan will last.
EK413
LTenEleven wrote:New CEO, new ideas.
Peter Bellew has some interesting ideas, but with his return to Ryanair....
Nicoeddf wrote:EK413 wrote:MH is a real mess thanks to the A380. They haven’t got a clue what to do with the odd ball in their fleet.
Operating the aircraft on key routes and scheduling based on demand is a wise move. Let’s see how long this plan will last.
EK413
Thanks to the A380? Seriously, if an airline is a mess because of six (!!) copies of any airplane, it most probably isn't viable in the first place.
Yes, might have been a suboptimal choice for them. But it certainly doesn't make or break MH.
mercure1 wrote:What a mess.
Having a hard time figuring out what lemonade to make with its lemons.
The airline is also understood to be weighing up the merits of a refresh for the A380 if it is to remain flying as Malaysia Airlines’ flagship,
Nicoeddf wrote:EK413 wrote:MH is a real mess thanks to the A380. They haven’t got a clue what to do with the odd ball in their fleet.
Operating the aircraft on key routes and scheduling based on demand is a wise move. Let’s see how long this plan will last.
EK413
Thanks to the A380? Seriously, if an airline is a mess because of six (!!) copies of any airplane, it most probably isn't viable in the first place.
Yes, might have been a suboptimal choice for them. But it certainly doesn't make or break MH.
tommy1808 wrote:Nicoeddf wrote:EK413 wrote:MH is a real mess thanks to the A380. They haven’t got a clue what to do with the odd ball in their fleet.
Operating the aircraft on key routes and scheduling based on demand is a wise move. Let’s see how long this plan will last.
EK413
Thanks to the A380? Seriously, if an airline is a mess because of six (!!) copies of any airplane, it most probably isn't viable in the first place.
Yes, might have been a suboptimal choice for them. But it certainly doesn't make or break MH.
Wasn't there a quote somewhere from a few years back that the A380 was actually a profitable plane for them? According to airfleets they have 11 stores 77E's, if the A380 had been the problem, if it's capacity had been the problem, they would be in storage and not the half as big, flexible 77E.
Best regards
Thomas
KarelXWB wrote:The article also mentions a possible cabin refresh:The airline is also understood to be weighing up the merits of a refresh for the A380 if it is to remain flying as Malaysia Airlines’ flagship,
EK413 wrote:
6 x A380 doesn’t make or break MH then again the amount $$$ invested in the Fleet certainly make the carrier bleed.
EK413
EK413 wrote:6 x A380 doesn’t make or break MH then again the amount $$$ invested in the Fleet certainly make the carrier bleed.
I don’t recall any article mentioning the aircraft was profitable considering they have half their fleet already parked at KUL.
EK413
NZ321 wrote:I think this may spell the end of the 789 order though. A333, A350, A380 gives MH a complete solution. So I'd say those 789 will be converted back to new generation 737.
tommy1808 wrote:Nicoeddf wrote:EK413 wrote:MH is a real mess thanks to the A380. They haven’t got a clue what to do with the odd ball in their fleet.
Operating the aircraft on key routes and scheduling based on demand is a wise move. Let’s see how long this plan will last.
EK413
Thanks to the A380? Seriously, if an airline is a mess because of six (!!) copies of any airplane, it most probably isn't viable in the first place.
Yes, might have been a suboptimal choice for them. But it certainly doesn't make or break MH.
Wasn't there a quote somewhere from a few years back that the A380 was actually a profitable plane for them? According to airfleets they have 11 stores 77E's, if the A380 had been the problem, if it's capacity had been the problem, they would be in storage and not the half as big, flexible 77E.
Best regards
Thomas
dhaliwal wrote:Why did the box up their 77E's?
BAeRJ100 wrote:dhaliwal wrote:Why did the box up their 77E's?
They were on the way out of the fleet anyway, MH simply sped up the retirement in the aftermath of MH370 and MH17.
Geoff1947 wrote:LTenEleven wrote:New CEO, new ideas.
Peter Bellew has some interesting ideas, but with his return to Ryanair....
Exactly they can ditch their stupid plan now Bellew has been pushed out. They need to make full use of their best assets.
Geoff
NZ321 wrote:I wouldn't put it past them to convert stored A333 into freighters though.
flee wrote:NZ321 wrote:As for freighters, they managed to sell one of the B744Fs recently - it is now in CGK for maintenance and pre-delivery preparations for its new owner (not sure who bought it).
Didn't they also sell an A330F to Royal Jordanian?tommy1808 wrote:8 stored A330
KarelXWB wrote:The article also mentions a possible cabin refresh:The airline is also understood to be weighing up the merits of a refresh for the A380 if it is to remain flying as Malaysia Airlines’ flagship,
Goodyear wrote:What a basket case of an airline. They make Air India look like professionals.
tommy1808 wrote:
According to airfleets they have 11 stores 77E's, if the A380 had been the problem, if it's capacity had been the problem, they would be in storage and not the half as big, flexible 77E.
best regards
Thomas
LTenEleven wrote:New CEO, new ideas.
Peter Bellew has some interesting ideas, but with his return to Ryanair....
Nicoeddf wrote:BAeRJ100 wrote:dhaliwal wrote:Why did the box up their 77E's?
They were on the way out of the fleet anyway, MH simply sped up the retirement in the aftermath of MH370 and MH17.
Still, if they were inherently more profitable, even MH would figure out that storing the 380s rather than the 777s would be a wise move.
I am in agreement with Tommy here, pretty telling.
Slug71 wrote:Nicoeddf wrote:BAeRJ100 wrote:
They were on the way out of the fleet anyway, MH simply sped up the retirement in the aftermath of MH370 and MH17.
Still, if they were inherently more profitable, even MH would figure out that storing the 380s rather than the 777s would be a wise move.
I am in agreement with Tommy here, pretty telling.
The 777 was killing their profits after the accidents!
NZ321 wrote:All in all I see this as the new CEO starting to rebuild and focus the airline on growth and reclaiming its position in the marketplace. Time is right IMHO. They've been wandering round with their tail between their legs the past few years. Time to move on and compete. A positive development.
Nicoeddf wrote:Slug71 wrote:Nicoeddf wrote:
Still, if they were inherently more profitable, even MH would figure out that storing the 380s rather than the 777s would be a wise move.
I am in agreement with Tommy here, pretty telling.
The 777 was killing their profits after the accidents!
I would say the "accidents" were killing their profits after the accidents. While both of the tragedies have been 777s, 90% of the flying public wouldn't know or wouldn't care. They care about the brand being burned for what happend and marked as "unsafe". That would count for booking numbers on the 380 as well.
9MMPQ wrote:If Airfleets wants to get it facts updated they should show MAB really only has 2 B77E left in storage.