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ist2014 wrote:Name of the game and competitive advantage of TK is frequency not capacity
Business model is not suitable for VLA
lightsaber wrote:Talk about a negotiating tactic. We don't need it, but we'll consider it... for the right price...
IMHO TK could make money with the A380, but at this point, the 779 makes more sense...
I sense negotiations...
Lightsaber
ist2014 wrote:Name of the game and competitive advantage of TK is frequency not capacity
Business model is not suitable for VLA
Revelation wrote:lightsaber wrote:Talk about a negotiating tactic. We don't need it, but we'll consider it... for the right price...
IMHO TK could make money with the A380, but at this point, the 779 makes more sense...
I sense negotiations...
Lightsaber
You would think a newer/bigger airport would mean less need for A380 because airport slots/gates are easier to come by, unless they didn't build a big enough airport.
But as always any hope for A380 grabs our attention, as does 747.
ist2014 wrote:Name of the game and competitive advantage of TK is frequency not capacity
Business model is not suitable for VLA
aemoreira1981 wrote:And the TK business model doesn’t really allow for the A380, but rather for right-sizing plane to route. The future should rely on the B789, A333, and B77W as the wide body types.
dubaiamman243 wrote:Turkish will also buy up to 40 B737-900.
Dutchy wrote:dubaiamman243 wrote:Turkish will also buy up to 40 B737-900.
I found this most remarkable. Why would anyone buy the 739 when the 73X is available?
Vladex wrote:Revelation wrote:You would think a newer/bigger airport would mean less need for A380 because airport slots/gates are easier to come by, unless they didn't build a big enough airport.
But as always any hope for A380 grabs our attention, as does 747.
You ignore the fact that airplanes operate on two ends so there can be a big and open airport on one end and a smaller and congested airport on the other end.
Arion640 wrote:Dutchy wrote:dubaiamman243 wrote:Turkish will also buy up to 40 B737-900.
I found this most remarkable. Why would anyone buy the 739 when the 73X is available?
Cheap cheap cheap. Milk the production line while it's still open.
Arion640 wrote:Dutchy wrote:dubaiamman243 wrote:Turkish will also buy up to 40 B737-900.
I found this most remarkable. Why would anyone buy the 739 when the 73X is available?
Cheap cheap cheap. Milk the production line while it's still open.
Vladex wrote:Revelation wrote:lightsaber wrote:Talk about a negotiating tactic. We don't need it, but we'll consider it... for the right price...
IMHO TK could make money with the A380, but at this point, the 779 makes more sense...
I sense negotiations...
Lightsaber
You would think a newer/bigger airport would mean less need for A380 because airport slots/gates are easier to come by, unless they didn't build a big enough airport.
But as always any hope for A380 grabs our attention, as does 747.
You ignore the fact that airplanes operate on two ends so there can be a big and open airport on one end and a smaller and congested airport on the other end.ist2014 wrote:Name of the game and competitive advantage of TK is frequency not capacity
Business model is not suitable for VLA
EK has 10 flights a day to London and 5 flights a day to Bangkok, all on A380 so frequency and size often go together.
airbazar wrote:That depends. Frequency and capacity are not mutually exclusive. If they were, the 779 (albeit smaller), would also be bad.
EK doesn't seem to have a problem operating multiple A380 frequencies. I think why it doesn't make sense for TK is the fact that their biggest market is Europe which is a lot of ways its short haul flying, and the fact that their bilateral with India is far too restrictive. If TK were to get the same deal from India that EK has, you can bet they would be ordering A380's.
Arion640 wrote:Dutchy wrote:dubaiamman243 wrote:Turkish will also buy up to 40 B737-900.
I found this most remarkable. Why would anyone buy the 739 when the 73X is available?
Cheap cheap cheap. Milk the production line while it's still open.
JamesCousins wrote:Arion640 wrote:Dutchy wrote:
I found this most remarkable. Why would anyone buy the 739 when the 73X is available?
Cheap cheap cheap. Milk the production line while it's still open.
Delivery slots has to be another huge factor, the 73X has a rather large backlog atm
Hours after the announcement, Turkish Airlines also reportedly sought prices for up to 40 wide-body 737-900 aircraft.
Dutchy wrote:Arion640 wrote:Dutchy wrote:
I found this most remarkable. Why would anyone buy the 739 when the 73X is available?
Cheap cheap cheap. Milk the production line while it's still open.
are there still slots available for 737NG?
lightsaber wrote:Dutchy wrote:Arion640 wrote:
Cheap cheap cheap. Milk the production line while it's still open.
are there still slots available for 737NG?
Yes. CFM is under-producing the LEAP. They are discounting the old engines to keep Boeing and Airbus happy.
Lightsaber
Revelation wrote:You would think a newer/bigger airport would mean less need for A380 because airport slots/gates are easier to come by, unless they didn't build a big enough airport.
Spiderguy252 wrote:Not only is the O&D between India and Turkey on the lower end, but like QR, they don't seem to have a good negotiator to play hardball at one point or another to get the rights they need. It also doesn't help that no Indian carrier flies to that country, and nobody has any plans to do so either.
airbazar wrote:Just like with EK, the O&D is irrelevant here and something that can be built over time. The India frequencies are important in order to sustain high volume traffic to the U.S. and Europe.