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VC10er wrote:Me thinks they needed to go WAY back in time as the tulip in any form was polarizing
Bricktop wrote:VC10er wrote:Me thinks they needed to go WAY back in time as the tulip in any form was polarizing
Can you expand on this if not too off topic?
Bricktop wrote:VC10er wrote:Me thinks they needed to go WAY back in time as the tulip in any form was polarizing
Can you expand on this if not too off topic?
STT757 wrote:I would love to see a New York Air 737, the Saul Bass United livery and the Saul Bass Continental "Meatball" livery (Black), a PeoplExpress and a Battleship Grey United.
Cointrin330 wrote:Stars and Bars did appear on an A320 (not sure it is still wearing those colors or has been repainted).
Jongum wrote:Bricktop wrote:VC10er wrote:Me thinks they needed to go WAY back in time as the tulip in any form was polarizing
Can you expand on this if not too off topic?
Still quite a bit of animosity between the LUAL and LCAL groups. Not so much on the surface, but festering underneath. There are quite a few threads that go down that path on this site.
Cointrin330 wrote:Stars and Bars did appear on an A320 (not sure it is still wearing those colors or has been repainted). They also slapped a cheap looking sticker over the U N I T E D logo on the last 2 747's and used the same lettering. It would be great if they put a pre-1994 livery (orange/blue) and Tulip on a plane and fly it around for a bit. I think many more people remember United for that livery, than the Stars and Bars one which was replaced in the early 1970s.
PA12 wrote:A Texas International , old Frontier, and Eastern livery.
STT757 wrote:I would love to see a New York Air 737, the Saul Bass United livery and the Saul Bass Continental "Meatball" livery (Black), a PeoplExpress and a Battleship Grey United.
N717TW wrote:I flew on this jet back in 2012 from ORD to BOS and pulled into BOS parked next to the three other liveries in use at the time (a very faded battleship 757, the last pre-merger sUA blue tulip, and the new United as Continental livery.
Jongum wrote:Still quite a bit of animosity between the LUAL and LCAL groups. Not so much on the surface, but festering underneath. There are quite a few threads that go down that path on this site.
N717TW wrote:I flew on this jet back in 2012 from ORD to BOS and pulled into BOS parked next to the three other liveries in use at the time (a very faded battleship 757, the last pre-merger sUA blue tulip, and the new United as Continental livery.
Jongum wrote:Still quite a bit of animosity between the LUAL and LCAL groups. Not so much on the surface, but festering underneath. There are quite a few threads that go down that path on this site.
Bricktop wrote:VC10er wrote:Me thinks they needed to go WAY back in time as the tulip in any form was polarizing
Can you expand on this if not too off topic?
N717TW wrote:N717TW wrote:I flew on this jet back in 2012 from ORD to BOS and pulled into BOS parked next to the three other liveries in use at the time (a very faded battleship 757, the last pre-merger sUA blue tulip, and the new United as Continental livery.
STT757 wrote:I would love to see a New York Air 737, the Saul Bass United livery and the Saul Bass Continental "Meatball" livery (Black), a PeoplExpress and a Battleship Grey United.
727200 wrote:STT757 wrote:I would love to see a New York Air 737, the Saul Bass United livery and the Saul Bass Continental "Meatball" livery (Black), a PeoplExpress and a Battleship Grey United.
No, nothing that would remind anyone of co. They already have made a mess of UA.
VC10er wrote:I’m with the folks who want a number of liveries flying from both CO and UA, (including PanAm) and even print a small history book for the back seat pockets that people can take home. Similar to the great “Goodbye 747” video and section in Hemispheres.
To fully appreciate what today’s United is, is to understand her sometimes glorious and sometimes troubled past. United isn’t named for the UNITED States, as many think. It’s due to the uniting of a few airlines very early in her history. Many airlines have been folded into what is today’s United (like a family tree) and many fantastic stories to tell. I don’t think many people get into the airline business to make money, but have done it for the love of aviation. Having many retro liveries would be a great way to illustrate that. Even a PanAm livery for a 77W that flies the Pacific!
Cubsrule wrote:It’s nice to see a sensible post on this thread. I’m not unbiased on the history (see my signature), but I would love to see 8 or 10 heritage liveries from both sides of the house flying around. Doug Parker made lots of questionable choices at US, but the heritage 319s were one thing he got 100 percent right.
rajincajun01 wrote:Cointrin330 wrote:Stars and Bars did appear on an A320 (not sure it is still wearing those colors or has been repainted).
Stars and Bars is still flying. Comes into DEN on a fairly regular basis.
N717TW wrote:N717TW wrote:I flew on this jet back in 2012 from ORD to BOS and pulled into BOS parked next to the three other liveries in use at the time (a very faded battleship 757, the last pre-merger sUA blue tulip, and the new United as Continental livery.
rbavfan wrote:N717TW wrote:N717TW wrote:I flew on this jet back in 2012 from ORD to BOS and pulled into BOS parked next to the three other liveries in use at the time (a very faded battleship 757, the last pre-merger sUA blue tulip, and the new United as Continental livery.
EWRamp wrote:How about a Varney livery
DCA-ROCguy wrote:Cubsrule wrote:It’s nice to see a sensible post on this thread. I’m not unbiased on the history (see my signature), but I would love to see 8 or 10 heritage liveries from both sides of the house flying around. Doug Parker made lots of questionable choices at US, but the heritage 319s were one thing he got 100 percent right.
Amen. Each of today's consolidated megacarriers has a history, a history which deserves to be remembered. As others have noted, there are troubled aspects to each carrier's history, but that's life in the imperfect world. The heritage 319's and 738's at AA are a terrific memory of history. Aircraft of 738/A320 size or smaller are good choices, because more markets get to see them.
Here are my suggestions for more United heritage schemes like the Friend Ship-Blue Stars A320 (is it still out there?). Let's say a mix of A319's and 738's, all with their "United" title stylized into appropriate font and color.
--United's Saul Bass 70s'-80's Tulip with small titles.
--United Mainliner
--Continental's Golden Tail--Red Meatball (maybe large titles, readable at longer distance)
--Continental's Golden Tail--Black Meatball
--People Express
--United Battleship
--United Final blue-bottom / white top with oversize tulip.
--New York Air
--Eastern. Yes, Eastern. Both white top and bare metal (use a silver paint like United used for the Blue Stars Friend Ship A320)
Jim
Aloha717200 wrote:I'm surprised a battleship livery was around long enough to be captured with the post-merger scheme
XAM2175 wrote:, but I fear it looks dated now and the grey paint certainly didn't weather well. The globe livery on the other hand I think still works, and works well, as it's dignified but not bland. The sans-serif logotype did a lot to modernize it.
And on the retro topic, and as a Saul Bass lover - the Meatball does nothing for me either. Poor livery, poor branding potential.
CALTECH wrote:
VC10er wrote:Bricktop wrote:VC10er wrote:Me thinks they needed to go WAY back in time as the tulip in any form was polarizing
Can you expand on this if not too off topic?
My thinking is that current UA management would feel that a retro aircraft with a tulip would be polarizing internally given it was the identity from the latest version of legacy United, the United that merged with CO. They spent considerable effort getting rid of the tulip as fast as possible after the merger. For those folks who are exCO employees, using a very old United livery would be less of a reminder of the unpleasant experience merging with “tulip United”.
I personally think that 2 retro liveries would have been the better way to go: one Saul Bass tulip and one Meatball = one retro livery for each employee group, and both liveries that would be remembered by the flying public.
It’s too late now, but it would have been AWESOME to have had a Saul Bass tulip 747 and a Saul Bass Continental Meatball 747 flying for a year or so before they left the fleet as both CO and UA were early buyers of the 747.
strfyr51 wrote:Not a lot of former Continental Senior Management is even AT United any more. So whatever paint job we see in the future? It'll be a fresh NEW look for the entire airline..
rbavfan wrote:Personally the best livery in this post is the blue one closest to the camera. They should have done that one without the color tulip next to the United name. It's a very classy high end look.
InnsbruckFlyer wrote:Does the United 747 Friend Ship count as retro?
InnsbruckFlyer wrote:Does the United 747 Friend Ship count as retro?
AAvgeek744 wrote:InnsbruckFlyer wrote:Does the United 747 Friend Ship count as retro?
Not to me. Current UA scheme will always be Continental to me. They seriously need a new identity.