California Pacific News and Discussion Thread

SyracuseAvGeek · Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:41 pm

How many planes do they have?

MO11 · Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:45 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
How many planes do they have?

Right now, ADI has 4 ERJ-145s.

ridgid727 · Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:57 am

California Pacific Lost their EAS bid at Alamosa CO mainly because they don't have an interline agreement with United Airlines.
https://alamosanews.com/article/boutiqu ... e-contract

SyracuseAvGeek · Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:51 pm

I know one of the planes (N286SK) has the CP livery, do any of the others?

DenverA330 · Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:34 am

I was driving to DEN the other night for my 10:15pm UA DEN-SAN flight, and I noticed on both the terminal and train signage that a new airline called California Pacific will be flying to DEN. I frequent the forums but wasn't aware of this new airline. In a general sense, what's the plan for California Pacific? ULCC? Just curious, thanks for any responses.

wedgetail737 · Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:53 am

California Pacific is doing some essential air service out of DEN to South Dakota. For more info, go to http://www.mycpair.com

SyracuseAvGeek · Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:53 pm

It’s first flight hasn’t even started out of Carlsbad yet and already they’ve had a plane damaged...

http://www.drgnews.com/no-injuries-when ... e-airport/

Anyone know the routes the planes will be taking to get out to California?

lavalampluva · Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:17 pm

SyracuseAvGeek · Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:06 pm

lavalampluva wrote:

I know there routes, maybe I didn’t clarify this enough. All of their planes are currently still in the dakotas and Colorado, but their first flight out of Carlsbad is the day after tomorrow. What I’m asking is what airports will the E145’s be stopping at on their way from Colorado to California?

lavalampluva · Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:35 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
lavalampluva wrote:

I know there routes, maybe I didn’t clarify this enough. All of their planes are currently still in the dakotas and Colorado, but their first flight out of Carlsbad is the day after tomorrow. What I’m asking is what airports will the E145’s be stopping at on their way from Colorado to California?

An E145 could easily fly from DEN to CLD.

flyoregon · Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:40 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
lavalampluva wrote:

I know there routes, maybe I didn’t clarify this enough. All of their planes are currently still in the dakotas and Colorado, but their first flight out of Carlsbad is the day after tomorrow. What I’m asking is what airports will the E145’s be stopping at on their way from Colorado to California?

They'll likely stop in Carlsbad after leaving Denver.

SyracuseAvGeek · Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:51 pm

Their Carlsbad schedule looks like it doesn’t leave room for maintenance delays. Monday-Friday the schedule runs from 7am to 9pm with only 30-45 min turnarounds at each airport.

wedgetail737 · Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:10 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
Their Carlsbad schedule looks like it doesn’t leave room for maintenance delays. Monday-Friday the schedule runs from 7am to 9pm with only 30-45 min turnarounds at each airport.

Maybe they'll include a spare.

SANFan · Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:12 pm

Fingers crossed that things go as planned on Thursday...

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SyracuseAvGeek · Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:34 pm

SANFan wrote:
Fingers crossed that things go as planned on Thursday...

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I hope so as well. Currently none of there aircraft are on the west coast or have flight plans to the west coast and one was damaged already after it hit a construction vehicle last Friday.

wedgetail737 · Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:53 pm

SANFan wrote:
Fingers crossed that things go as planned on Thursday...

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I hope so too since I am booked on the SJC-CLD inaugural flight.

SyracuseAvGeek · Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:26 am

Unfortunately it doesn’t even look like the inaugural flight will be a California Pacific plane. The one plane painted in the California Pacific livery will remain in Denver.

hawaiian717 · Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:12 pm

It looks like N259JQ will be the aircraft. FR24 shows a DEN-CLD flight planned for yesterday that didn't seem to happen, and another one planned for this morning planning to depart at 1100 and arrive at 1203.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n259jq

SyracuseAvGeek · Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:24 pm

hawaiian717 wrote:
It looks like N259JQ will be the aircraft. FR24 shows a DEN-CLD flight planned for yesterday that didn't seem to happen, and another one planned for this morning planning to depart at 1100 and arrive at 1203.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n259jq

Hope the flight leaves, would be bad if their inaugural was cancelled. Wish they would use N286SK instead, what livery is N259JQ wearing?

SyracuseAvGeek · Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:32 pm

I don’t know if this is bad or not. One of the California Pacific planes was supposed to leave DEN for CLD last night and was cancelled and rescheduled for this morning. It was supposed to leave at 11am MST , it’s now 1:30pm MST and it hasn’t left yet. With the inaugural less than 24hrs away, Is this a bad thing or is it normal for airlines to cut it this close?

hawaiian717 · Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:18 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
what livery is N259JQ wearing?

The most recent photos of it here and on JP have it in Delta Connection livery, but Flickr has photos of it in the Delta Connection base livery with the titles and logos removed from earlier this year.

https://flic.kr/p/24SHZ4R

SyracuseAvGeek · Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:21 pm

The inaugural launch has been postponed until Friday November 2nd

wedgetail737 · Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:40 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
The inaugural launch has been postponed until Friday November 2nd

You sure about that? I don't see the change on their website or Social media.

SyracuseAvGeek · Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:44 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
The inaugural launch has been postponed until Friday November 2nd

You sure about that? I don't see the change on their website or Social media.

I sent them a DM on Instagram and that’s what they told me. I don’t know how to upload the photo otherwise I would.

PlanesNTrains · Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:56 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
The inaugural launch has been postponed until Friday November 2nd

You sure about that? I don't see the change on their website or Social media.

I sent them a DM on Instagram and that’s what they told me. I don’t know how to upload the photo otherwise I would.

That’s a pisser.

wedgetail737 · Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:57 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
The inaugural launch has been postponed until Friday November 2nd

You sure about that? I don't see the change on their website or Social media.

I sent them a DM on Instagram and that’s what they told me. I don’t know how to upload the photo otherwise I would.

I called CA Pacific and they said that the inaugural flights are still on for tomorrow.

PlanesNTrains · Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:01 am

wedgetail737 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:

You sure about that? I don't see the change on their website or Social media.

I sent them a DM on Instagram and that’s what they told me. I don’t know how to upload the photo otherwise I would.

I called CA Pacific and they said that the inaugural flights are still on for tomorrow.

I wonder if someone can DM them again on Instagram?

SyracuseAvGeek · Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:01 am

That’s Weird, I will post the screenshot of it on my story on Instagram (which is: Gerardi-Aviation-Photography ) because I can’t figure out how to post it on airliners.net

hawaiian717 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:07 am

A new DYN259 flight is showing in Flightradar24 and FlightAware for DEN-CLD tomorrow morning departing at 0515, arriving 0602. DYN101 is also showing for CLD-SJC. No tail number showing in FR24 for either flight.

PlanesNTrains · Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:29 am

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
That’s Weird, I will post the screenshot of it on my story on Instagram (which is: Gerardi-Aviation-Photography ) because I can’t figure out how to post it on airliners.net

Weird response from them but with a tiny operation they’re probably deciding things on the fly. I wonder if your Instagram DM was what made them realize they had no plane there? Lol

SyracuseAvGeek · Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:54 pm

So any news from the airline for those of you that are passengers? Just like yesterday, the plane was supposed to leave DEN for CLD this morning but still hasn’t. If they don’t fix something fast and get some planes out to California, they’ll be in big trouble (more than they are now) .

SANFan · Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:43 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
I called CA Pacific and they said that the inaugural flights are still on for tomorrow.

Hey wedgie', what time is your flight supposed to leave CLD today?

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flyoregon · Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:50 pm

I've been rooting for California Pacific, but if you can't get a plane there for the first ever flight, dependability just went down the drain and reputation is immediately shot.

That plane should have been there 2 days ago and they should have been marketing the crap out of it at CLD before the first passenger even arrived to check in. Instead, the story will be "Long awaited airline out of Carlsbad cancels first flight."

Pitty.

VS11 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:15 pm

Bloomberg has a story on the founder:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nd=premium

SyracuseAvGeek · Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:32 pm

None of their planes are even on the way to California.

RJNUT · Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:42 pm

The Carlsbad curse continues!

BigGSFO · Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:54 pm

I'm sure there is a business purpose to this, but Pierre and Watertown, SD as destinations from Carlsbad?

MO11 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:59 pm

BigGSFO wrote:
I'm sure there is a business purpose to this, but Pierre and Watertown, SD as destinations from Carlsbad?

No...South Dakota cities are EAS routes from Denver, the scheduled service that was operated prior to ADI being sold.

MO11 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:05 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
None of their planes are even on the way to California.

Since two of the four airplanes are EPs, I'm guessing that they can't fly out if CRQ. When Continental had them, they were no balls of fire.

SyracuseAvGeek · Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:19 pm

MO11 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
None of their planes are even on the way to California.

Since two of the four airplanes are EPs, I'm guessing that they can't fly out if CRQ. When Continental had them, they were no balls of fire.

What does “EP” mean ? Which two aircraft (ID’s) are EPs?

FA9295 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:26 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
MO11 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
None of their planes are even on the way to California.

Since two of the four airplanes are EPs, I'm guessing that they can't fly out if CRQ. When Continental had them, they were no balls of fire.

What does “EP” mean ? Which two aircraft (ID’s) are EPs?

I would assume that it means the ERJ-145s. Though, I've never heard of any plane being referred to as "EP" before.

mtnwest1979 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:37 pm

Flight from DEN actually on the way now, as of 1:37p MDT looking at FlightAware.

konkret · Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:11 pm

ERJ145EP – Same fuel capacity as 145ER (4,174 kg) but an increased MTOW 20,990 kg.

A388 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:35 pm

EP as in Extended Payload?

A388

MO11 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:48 pm

FA9295 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
MO11 wrote:

Since two of the four airplanes are EPs, I'm guessing that they can't fly out if CRQ. When Continental had them, they were no balls of fire.

What does “EP” mean ? Which two aircraft (ID’s) are EPs?

I would assume that it means the ERJ-145s. Though, I've never heard of any plane being referred to as "EP" before.

EMB-145EP has a lower gross weight than an EMB-145LR (which is what N259JQ and N286SK are) and were delivered with lower rated engines. I know Chautauqua didn't upgrade the engines and I'm sure ADI didn't, either.

sunking737 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:49 pm

A388 wrote:
EP as in Extended Payload?

A388

Extra Patients ...It gets their some day

SyracuseAvGeek · Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:54 pm

Glad to see the plane is finally on its way. Too bad the inaugural won’t be on a plane with the California Pacific livery on.

wedgetail737 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:15 pm

SANFan wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
I called CA Pacific and they said that the inaugural flights are still on for tomorrow.

Hey wedgie', what time is your flight supposed to leave CLD today?

bb

Well the poster was right. First flight was indeed cancelled. So first flight is tonight at 7:45pm from SJC to CLD...hopefully.

wedgetail737 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:18 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
Glad to see the plane is finally on its way. Too bad the inaugural won’t be on a plane with the California Pacific livery on.

We’ll see what happens. You were right, though. First flight is tonight if it’s cancelled too.

caliboy93 · Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:30 pm

Should the airline rename itself to CalPac? Sounds more hip and quicker to say than California Pacific

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