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Konabuzz1967 wrote:I've heard from a FedEx employee that they lease several (4?) 747F's during the holidays. Sorry I don't have any more particulars.
n92r03 wrote:I always enjoy these discussions each year. If we factor in the "Amazon" affect and think how that has added/changed the industry from what it was 5 or 10 years ago it is quite amazing.
Question, if/when a carrier (FedEx/UPS) leases aircraft from another carrier (Atlas, etc), is the aircraft crewed by the lessee or the lessor?
n92r03 wrote:I always enjoy these discussions each year. If we factor in the "Amazon" affect and think how that has added/changed the industry from what it was 5 or 10 years ago it is quite amazing.
Question, if/when a carrier (FedEx/UPS) leases aircraft from another carrier (Atlas, etc), is the aircraft crewed by the lessee or the lessor?
jjbiv wrote:n92r03 wrote:I always enjoy these discussions each year. If we factor in the "Amazon" affect and think how that has added/changed the industry from what it was 5 or 10 years ago it is quite amazing.
Question, if/when a carrier (FedEx/UPS) leases aircraft from another carrier (Atlas, etc), is the aircraft crewed by the lessee or the lessor?
The lessor provides the crew on an ACMI (aircraft, crew, maintenance, insurance) lease.
kjeld0d wrote:In the glory days of A.net I recall reading multiple, lengthy threads about holiday upgauging by cargo carriers. Sigh...isn't the new site design GREAT!!
Stitch wrote:In addition to the normal holiday loads, Apple releases a new iPhone every Fall and that increases demand for air freight significantly as a significant majority are shipped via UPS and FedEx from China.
worldranger wrote:Do FDX/UPS/DHL use the belly holds of global airlines during peak or other?
HPRamper wrote:worldranger wrote:Do FDX/UPS/DHL use the belly holds of global airlines during peak or other?
FX utilizes belly capacity internationally, especially in regions where they have little coverage (like Africa) but not domestically.
32andBelow wrote:HPRamper wrote:worldranger wrote:Do FDX/UPS/DHL use the belly holds of global airlines during peak or other?
FX utilizes belly capacity internationally, especially in regions where they have little coverage (like Africa) but not domestically.
They use it domestically to rural Alaska.
Stitch wrote:In addition to the normal holiday loads, Apple releases a new iPhone every Fall and that increases demand for air freight significantly as a significant majority are shipped via UPS and FedEx from China.
Two million bottles, or close to 1,400 tonnes of Beaujolais Nouveau[...]
HPRamper wrote:32andBelow wrote:HPRamper wrote:FX utilizes belly capacity internationally, especially in regions where they have little coverage (like Africa) but not domestically.
They use it domestically to rural Alaska.
Thanks for mentioning Alaska - in addition, technically, from Southeast Alaska, FX utilizes main-deck space. Every day, AS Cargo moves one or two SAA containers full of FX freight directly to SEA since FX no longer flies into the area.
32andBelow wrote:HPRamper wrote:32andBelow wrote:They use it domestically to rural Alaska.
Thanks for mentioning Alaska - in addition, technically, from Southeast Alaska, FX utilizes main-deck space. Every day, AS Cargo moves one or two SAA containers full of FX freight directly to SEA since FX no longer flies into the area.
Those ATRs dont go down there anymore? Where do they even go at this point? I know the caravans do the close in stuff.
cvgComair wrote:Amazon is changing their entire schedule to increase aircraft utilization. Since they are limited by space at CVG (as DHL ramps ups their own CVG hub ops for the holidays) they are adding more PTP routes while reducing flying through CVG. Kind of an interesting way to get peak holiday flying in.
lightsaber wrote:cvgComair wrote:Amazon is changing their entire schedule to increase aircraft utilization. Since they are limited by space at CVG (as DHL ramps ups their own CVG hub ops for the holidays) they are adding more PTP routes while reducing flying through CVG. Kind of an interesting way to get peak holiday flying in.
Now that is interesting. Amazon is going to be pilot hour limited more than anything else.
Lightsaber
Spacepope wrote:Speaking of additional lift, FedEx just reactivated one of the 3 757Fs it had stored at VCV. This joins a freshly delivered 777F this week too. UPS took a 748 yesterday just in time for the surge.
cvgComair wrote:lightsaber wrote:cvgComair wrote:Amazon is changing their entire schedule to increase aircraft utilization. Since they are limited by space at CVG (as DHL ramps ups their own CVG hub ops for the holidays) they are adding more PTP routes while reducing flying through CVG. Kind of an interesting way to get peak holiday flying in.
Now that is interesting. Amazon is going to be pilot hour limited more than anything else.
Lightsaber
It was said on the Amazon thread that the freighters could see 14-16 hours of utilization a day, I will be very interested to see where they get pilots to fly all of this extra time.
Kilopond wrote:As we are looking at late autumn freight peaks, we shouldn't forget those urgent-to-get, heavy wine bottles from France.Two million bottles, or close to 1,400 tonnes of Beaujolais Nouveau[...]
wjcandee wrote:cvgComair wrote:lightsaber wrote:Now that is interesting. Amazon is going to be pilot hour limited more than anything else.
Lightsaber
It was said on the Amazon thread that the freighters could see 14-16 hours of utilization a day, I will be very interested to see where they get pilots to fly all of this extra time.
The additional flying is selective, and pretty-well thought-out. All of it appears to have been designed to fit within the capabilities of each airline. If and when Atlas finally gets N1373A into revenue service, there is work for it and pilots to fly that work. What I thought was interesting was that Amazon has kept its two hot spares as spares, and didn't try to purchase service for the operational spares at the flying carriers (1709A, 255CM, 395CM). The hot spares stay as spares, and the operational spares at the airlines function as they have to date. ABX hasn't been pressured with additional business to the point that it can't cover the occasional rescue flight with an aircraft and a crew. As has been the case all-along, Amazon appears to be placing a premium on reliability and redudancy, even as it ramps up the flying. So...when 313 had pressurization issues (according to an ATI pilot who posts here) on the way from DFW-SCK the other night and diverted to ABQ , the subsequent flight scheduled from SCK was covered by the hot spare at ONT, and when 313 was made (temporarily) flyable, it flew to ONT to become the hot spare. (It had the same issues on the way to ONT as caused it to divert, so although it was the designated hot spare, it needed basically another day of repairs there, which could be accomplished because everything else was working).
nitepilot79 wrote:The evening UPS A300 departure from DIA/DEN doesn't seem to be supplemented due to the holidays quite yet.
nitepilot79 wrote:The evening UPS A300 departure from DIA/DEN doesn't seem to be supplemented due to the holidays quite yet.
nitepilot79 wrote:The evening UPS A300 departure from DIA/DEN doesn't seem to be supplemented due to the holidays quite yet.
nitepilot79 wrote:The evening UPS A300 departure from DIA/DEN doesn't seem to be supplemented due to the holidays quite yet.