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BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:02 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5081155/BA-cabin-crew-woman-forced-quit-emergency-landing.html

I thought that cabin crew are supposed to assist passengers in an emergency, but she was reportedly "completely terrified".
 
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:07 pm

She needs psychiatric help.
 
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:18 pm

This is a really sad story. I'm sure anyone would be scared in this situation if it happened to them.
 
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:38 pm

British Airways has admitted liability for her PTSD issues. The only issue that is before the court is the amount of compensation, and the exact nature of the package itself. She wants more, and she wants cash. BA wants to pay less, and would like to structure things a little differently. It is a sad situation, but fortunately psychiatric help is available in most of the developed world... these sorts of things happen.
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:09 pm

Why compensation?? Just find her another position within the airline.
 
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:19 pm

BA has a process whereby employees who cannot do their jobs due to illness are assessed by British Airways Health Service (BAHS) for suitability for another job. So, a crew member who cannot fly will be assessed for a ground job. We are not told if she was assessed and, if so, what was the outcome, but we do know that she was offered voluntary redundancy which she accepted.
 
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:20 pm

Not sure how she got into "her dream job" without realizing that incidents and accidents are an evident likelihood, just like in any other job that entails the mere act of leaving the security of your own home... Electing to fly as a F/A necessitates the taking on of lots of responsibilities -professional, or otherwise, including the awareness of the inherent dangers associated with flying.
I just don't see how she should be granted that sum.... Psychiatric help and support? Yes, and maybe for the rest of her life. Being offered another (ground) position? Again, yes, entirely reasonable. But 750,000 in cash??? No way.
 
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:15 pm

Right. What's next, a police officer suing the .gov because a criminal did what criminals sometimes does? As an air crew member you're basically part of a safety and security team, and prior to seeking employment as such, should have done your due dilligence. Yes, sometimes bad things happen to an aircraft and, ultimately, it may cost you your life.

But to take the job and then claim almost a million quid following an engine failure where nobody got hurt is, frankly, beyond taking the pish. Where's Harvey Specter when you need him?
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:38 pm

gunnerman wrote:
BA has a process whereby employees who cannot do their jobs due to illness are assessed by British Airways Health Service (BAHS) for suitability for another job. So, a crew member who cannot fly will be assessed for a ground job. We are not told if she was assessed and, if so, what was the outcome, but we do know that she was offered voluntary redundancy which she accepted.


That's standard practice for U.S. carriers as well; the company will work with the employee and their physician to determine a reasonable accommodation that might enable them to still work, but in a different position. Of course that also means they're compensated according to what that new position pays, not their previous one, especially if they're entering a unionized position covered by a CBA, where they'd be essentially starting from the bottom all over again.
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:03 pm

She's unfit for the job and I will stir up things a bit now, it's a mystery how she managed to go through the interviews to get this sort of job. We all had our share of scary moments flying, I had fire on board twice and a near collision that made some passengers faint, I can assure you I wasn't smiling but I kept my nerves under control.
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:00 pm

She is saying that she wants £750,000 (US$988,000) as compensation for being badly affected even though she was unfit to do the job that cabin crew are really there for. I can see BA's top lawyers on this case as there is no way that precedence for a big payout will be wanted by BA or other airlines.
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:12 pm

 
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:26 pm

$115k pounds, That's $151k usd, I guess that pays for about 3 years of being out of work for most folks. (yeah I know allot of folks make much much more, but I'm talking median individual incomes here)..
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:36 pm

I wish BA had sued her.
 
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:57 pm

Note the statement from BA: "We have since made changes to our procedures to prevent any future events of this type."
 
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:06 pm

ODwyerPW wrote:
$115k pounds, That's $151k usd, I guess that pays for about 3 years of being out of work for most folks. (yeah I know allot of folks make much much more, but I'm talking median individual incomes here)..


Median yearly personal income in the UK a few years ago was something like GBP 21,000 and AFAIK it's not gone up much since. BA cabin crew won't necessary sit much above - and indeed Mixed Fleet basic salary is below that. Legal minimum wage for an adult outside London, by comparison, is somewhat shy of GBP 15,000 across a year's full-time hours.
 
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:32 pm

BA's Mixed Fleet salary is so low, I wonder how choosy they can be when hiring new FA's
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Re: BA stewardess sues for £750,000 after fear of flying forced her to quit

Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:18 pm

Only a small percentage (I think it's under 5%) of applicants eventually qualify to be Mixed Fleet cabin crew after screening, assessments and training, so BA can afford to be picky. Most of them are young, some still living at home. It's a change of lifestyle being crew, some love the job but some hate it. The days of making a career as cabin crew are probably over.

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