Momo1435 wrote:Another image from Boeing's twitter.
https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/sta ... 2146156544
ps.
That's a 787-9.... mistake? or something that hasn't been revealed yet?
zeke wrote:The number ordered just seems too small for their fleet size. I am half expecting a lot more, maybe they will be looking to split this.
parapente wrote:Their press release quotes Emirates as saying that some of them will be for replacements (to keep young fleet) - replacing what?
kasimir wrote:parapente wrote:Their press release quotes Emirates as saying that some of them will be for replacements (to keep young fleet) - replacing what?
I think that part of the order is to replace the 77L for the ULH ops
Bricktop wrote:An order for another 30 A388's is a nice score for Airbus.
Also a nice sop for the 70 B78J's they order as well.![]()
Strato2 wrote:Totally expected. If they were serious about the XWB they would not have cancelled the order in the first place.
MrHMSH wrote:Massive boost for the 78X and Boeing, and a fantastic plane for EK. Looks pretty slick to boot. Seems a bit on the small side though, maybe we're looking at a split....
qf789 wrote:Good pick up, according to EK's press release they will be configured in both 2 and 3 class aircraft ranging from 240 to 330 seats. 240 seems to be too small of a number for a 787-10
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... i-airshow#
qf789 wrote:Momo1435 wrote:Another image from Boeing's twitter.
https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/sta ... 2146156544
ps.
That's a 787-9.... mistake? or something that hasn't been revealed yet?
Good pick up, according to EK's press release they will be configured in both 2 and 3 class aircraft ranging from 240 to 330 seats. 240 seems to be too small of a number for a 787-10
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... i-airshow#
Slash787 wrote:2022 is so far away, I wish they took the birds earlier.
Boeing last week announced it will take the production rate of the 787 from 12/mo to 14/mo in 2019.
The decision to do so was couched in a strong backlog and strong forthcoming demand by CEO Dennis Muilenburg at a Morgan Stanley conference.
But analysts think the move is more about boosting free cash flow and hitting margins than it is about demand.
Summary:
• Boeing sees demand surging from 2019 for widebodies generally and the 787 specifically.
• Muilenburg says Boeing is working “skyline” positions in 2019 and 2020 (LNC saw these years as already filled).
• Widebody jets hitting 25 years old early next decade.
• Airbus concurs.
carlokiii wrote:Finally an end to repetitive threads on EK/787 speculations that took a life on its own when the A350 order was canceled. Nice coup for the largest Dreamliner.
scotron11 wrote:Wonder who will get the engine contract?
KarelXWB wrote:zeke wrote:The number ordered just seems too small for their fleet size. I am half expecting a lot more, maybe they will be looking to split this.
Hence the 60 options.
Revelation wrote:Seems Dennis knew more about demand than those analysts did, but the free cash flow will look good too.
fcogafa wrote:qf789 wrote:Momo1435 wrote:Another image from Boeing's twitter.
https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/sta ... 2146156544
ps.
That's a 787-9.... mistake? or something that hasn't been revealed yet?
Good pick up, according to EK's press release they will be configured in both 2 and 3 class aircraft ranging from 240 to 330 seats. 240 seems to be too small of a number for a 787-10
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... i-airshow#
Flightglobal quotes 'Boeing says the agreement includes conversion rights to swap to the smaller 787-9.'
lightsaber wrote:fcogafa wrote:qf789 wrote:
Good pick up, according to EK's press release they will be configured in both 2 and 3 class aircraft ranging from 240 to 330 seats. 240 seems to be too small of a number for a 787-10
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... i-airshow#
Flightglobal quotes 'Boeing says the agreement includes conversion rights to swap to the smaller 787-9.'
Oh, there is a hedged bet... So now let the speculation begin on how many may be converted to the 789?
Lightsaber
Polot wrote:My guess any 789s they get will act like the 77Ls currently in the fleet, but for regional instead of ULH use. For those missions just outsize of the 787-10's comfort zone where the 77W/779 will be too large.
OA940 wrote:240 does seem like very little for the 787-10. I assume that means they'd use the ones configured like that with a premium-heavy configuration. I would guess around 9 F (with the new cabin), 40-44 J (with the J to be launched by the 777X which will have direct aisle access) and less than 200 Y, probably for premium markets. 330 seems like a bit much for that size, but we don't know exact configs for the -10, so maybe it's doable. I would assume for those they'd fill the space between L/R1 and L/R2 with J and the rest Y. They'd probably use the latter mainly for expansion. Also that 787-9 could very well join the fleet. I for one hope it does.
Revelation wrote:Slash787 wrote:2022 is so far away, I wish they took the birds earlier.
Presumably all the other customers ahead of them say they can't.
In early September we read from Leeham ( https://leehamnews.com/2017/09/18/asses ... tion-rate/ ):Boeing last week announced it will take the production rate of the 787 from 12/mo to 14/mo in 2019.
The decision to do so was couched in a strong backlog and strong forthcoming demand by CEO Dennis Muilenburg at a Morgan Stanley conference.
But analysts think the move is more about boosting free cash flow and hitting margins than it is about demand.
Summary:
• Boeing sees demand surging from 2019 for widebodies generally and the 787 specifically.
• Muilenburg says Boeing is working “skyline” positions in 2019 and 2020 (LNC saw these years as already filled).
• Widebody jets hitting 25 years old early next decade.
• Airbus concurs.
Seems Dennis knew more about demand than those analysts did, but the free cash flow will look good too.
chiki wrote:What percentage of EK network will the 7810 be able to cover, i am sure this has been discussed before but not sure where.
Newbiepilot wrote:
Thanks for reminding us. Going up to 14 a month makes a lot more sense once Boeing knew they'd get a deal from Emirates. 2017 has been a good sales year for the 787.
migair54 wrote:OA940 wrote:240 does seem like very little for the 787-10. I assume that means they'd use the ones configured like that with a premium-heavy configuration. I would guess around 9 F (with the new cabin), 40-44 J (with the J to be launched by the 777X which will have direct aisle access) and less than 200 Y, probably for premium markets. 330 seems like a bit much for that size, but we don't know exact configs for the -10, so maybe it's doable. I would assume for those they'd fill the space between L/R1 and L/R2 with J and the rest Y. They'd probably use the latter mainly for expansion. Also that 787-9 could very well join the fleet. I for one hope it does.
I just read today that EK is planning to introduce a new business class in the future, similar to the one EK has on the A380, so that will change the number of business class seats, but I guess it will be close to 36-40 and around 200 in economy and 6 in F.