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Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:29 pm

Been checking the site for the last three days and it doesn't come up.
Here is the link for the Eastern site:

http://easternairlines.aero/

Our forum had a thread in June indicating an interest by Swift Air.

Here is that thread:

http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1365927

One could speculate that if there has been any movement by Swift Air to acquire Eastern that at some point it would have to alter or replace the web site. If any of our forum members in the Miami area would investigate the situation at the Eastern offices then we might have more info. Also if any members are in the Phoenix or Greensboro area where Swift Air has staff that might be helpful.

SWIFT AIR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS
2406 S 24th Street, Suite E-102
Phoenix, AZ 85034
Tel : 1 (866) 227-9438

SWIFT AIR OPERATIONS HEADQUARTERS
202 Centreport Dr, Suite 400
Greensboro, NC 27409

The Airways article in June reported this:

Swift Air To Acquire Eastern Airlines - EAL Brand Retained

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/breaking-swift-air-to-acquire-eastern-airlines/

In any event an update would be interesting.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:38 pm

DNS lookups show that the HTTP SRV record has been deleted about 4 days ago, but the A, MX (mail.easternairlines.aero is also SPAM flagged!), NAME, SPF, etc are all active. It's deliberate whatever it is.
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:42 pm

EA 2.0 is dead. Operated last flight in September.
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:46 pm

Swift air acquired some of EA’s aircraft and and their IP (intellectual property- brand name, logo, etc). They did not actually acquire the whole airline which as LAXintl mentioned is now dead.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:50 pm

Swift acquired the contracts, and leased two airplanes from Eastern. That's all. Eastern Airlines Group has been renamed EALG Interim Solution, Inc.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:01 pm

The airline could've been more successful if they began regional flying out of a smaller airport. I think if they would've bought some used CRJ-200's and flew out of an airport that has cheaper operating costs, to other mid-sized markets, it could've been successful. One Jet seems to be doing good, hypothetically they can purchase some used A320's in the future and fly longer routes to larger sized medium markets.
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:03 pm

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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:46 pm

flymco753 wrote:
The airline could've been more successful if they began regional flying out of a smaller airport. I think if they would've bought some used CRJ-200's and flew out of an airport that has cheaper operating costs, to other mid-sized markets, it could've been successful. One Jet seems to be doing good, hypothetically they can purchase some used A320's in the future and fly longer routes to larger sized medium markets.

Eastern Airlines never got certified for scheduled operations, they could only do charter work. One Jet is not a "real" airline, they charter others (currently Contour Aviation, formerly known as Corporate Flight Management) to operate flights on their behalf.

Cuba was EA's bread and butter. When it opened up to scheduled flights the charter market dried up and EA was doomed.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:00 pm

Eastern is effectively no more. They're operating as Swift Air now, but I believe they've kept the Eastern 738s in EA colors. That's all that remains, however.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:08 pm

Did swift air cancel all the 737's that Eastern had on order? what about the Mitsubishi?
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:21 pm

flymco753 wrote:
The airline could've been more successful if they began regional flying out of a smaller airport. I think if they would've bought some used CRJ-200's and flew out of an airport that has cheaper operating costs, to other mid-sized markets, it could've been successful. One Jet seems to be doing good, hypothetically they can purchase some used A320's in the future and fly longer routes to larger sized medium markets.

This strategy has not been successful for anyone though...
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:30 pm

allegiantflyer wrote:
Did swift air cancel all the 737's that Eastern had on order? what about the Mitsubishi?


I would like to know this as well.

I'm so sad that EAL2 failed. It's not often that a restart of an airline actually keeps the classic livery. It was so nice to see that flying around in modern times.

I was privately hoping Swift would operate as Eastern and keep the site alive, growing the operation that way. In time I think the EAL-painted birds will be painted into standard Swift colors.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:02 pm

The new World Airways that has been in the media the last few days is basically the same group that started Eastern.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:37 pm

Aloha717200 wrote:
allegiantflyer wrote:
Did swift air cancel all the 737's that Eastern had on order? what about the Mitsubishi?


I would like to know this as well.



No. Swift Air did not buy Eastern, only the charter contracts. Eastern still exists as a shell company, which would be responsible for cancelling the orders.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:37 pm

flymco753 wrote:
The airline could've been more successful if they began regional flying out of a smaller airport. I think if they would've bought some used CRJ-200's and flew out of an airport that has cheaper operating costs, to other mid-sized markets, it could've been successful. One Jet seems to be doing good, hypothetically they can purchase some used A320's in the future and fly longer routes to larger sized medium markets.


Flying a high CASM airplane into a cheaper airport is the same as flying a low CASM airplane into an expensive airport...the bigger issue is that they thought the brand had loyalty (it didn't) and that Cuba would sustain (it didn't).

Ed's on to the next adventure, trying to resuscitate a 70s brand with a bad business model.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:14 pm

catiii wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
The airline could've been more successful if they began regional flying out of a smaller airport. I think if they would've bought some used CRJ-200's and flew out of an airport that has cheaper operating costs, to other mid-sized markets, it could've been successful. One Jet seems to be doing good, hypothetically they can purchase some used A320's in the future and fly longer routes to larger sized medium markets.


Flying a high CASM airplane into a cheaper airport is the same as flying a low CASM airplane into an expensive airport...the bigger issue is that they thought the brand had loyalty (it didn't) and that Cuba would sustain (it didn't).

Ed's on to the next adventure, trying to resuscitate a 70s brand with a bad business model.

Peopled need to be able to connect into the larger national aviation network.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:15 pm

Really unfortunate. They had so much potential too!
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:34 pm

32andBelow wrote:
catiii wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
The airline could've been more successful if they began regional flying out of a smaller airport. I think if they would've bought some used CRJ-200's and flew out of an airport that has cheaper operating costs, to other mid-sized markets, it could've been successful. One Jet seems to be doing good, hypothetically they can purchase some used A320's in the future and fly longer routes to larger sized medium markets.


Flying a high CASM airplane into a cheaper airport is the same as flying a low CASM airplane into an expensive airport...the bigger issue is that they thought the brand had loyalty (it didn't) and that Cuba would sustain (it didn't).

Ed's on to the next adventure, trying to resuscitate a 70s brand with a bad business model.

Peopled need to be able to connect into the larger national aviation network.


Sure, but the model above as a standalone business isn't it.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:27 pm

They definitely needed more eggs in more baskets.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:44 pm

In a weird turn of events, Havana Air reverted the titles on one of the former Eastern 737s back to the Eastern title and logo. If the company really is dead, why would Swift go through the hassle of replacing the titles back to EAL? Weird for sure, but something to keep an eye on in the coming weeks.
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:06 pm

Eastern Air Lines Inoperative
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:37 pm

jeffh747 wrote:
In a weird turn of events, Havana Air reverted the titles on one of the former Eastern 737s back to the Eastern title and logo. If the company really is dead, why would Swift go through the hassle of replacing the titles back to EAL? Weird for sure, but something to keep an eye on in the coming weeks.

Maybe they were just covered.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:48 am

the certificate was surrendered to the FAA in September. So its dead. Toast. No more.
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:43 am

32andBelow wrote:
jeffh747 wrote:
In a weird turn of events, Havana Air reverted the titles on one of the former Eastern 737s back to the Eastern title and logo. If the company really is dead, why would Swift go through the hassle of replacing the titles back to EAL? Weird for sure, but something to keep an eye on in the coming weeks.

Maybe they were just covered.


Eastern are now just a Swift Air brand (aka Eastern operated by Swift Air). Keeping the brand active prevents anyone else from using it...hence why we’ll probably never see a Pan Am IV as an airline.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:02 am

Please, let the dead sleep.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:46 pm

MO11 wrote:
Swift acquired the contracts, and leased two airplanes from Eastern. That's all. Eastern Airlines Group has been renamed EALG Interim Solution, Inc.


N276EA is still active (it is flying today), which is the other one? I have seen no activity on FR24.com for any other EA plane besides 276 in some time.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:29 pm

JFKCMILAXFLL wrote:
MO11 wrote:
Swift acquired the contracts, and leased two airplanes from Eastern. That's all. Eastern Airlines Group has been renamed EALG Interim Solution, Inc.


N276EA is still active (it is flying today), which is the other one? I have seen no activity on FR24.com for any other EA plane besides 276 in some time.


Just checked flightaware

N278EA, N279EA, N280EA haven't flown in months
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:55 pm

Interesting to note that it does appear N276EA is operating under the SwiftAir operating certificate, not Eastern's, as the flights operated today are under the name SwiftAir with Swift flight numbers.
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:51 pm

I have my tablet at work set to the Miami Airport webcam .. I've seen EA 737s landing within the last week or so ..
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:56 pm

727LOVER wrote:
JFKCMILAXFLL wrote:
MO11 wrote:
Swift acquired the contracts, and leased two airplanes from Eastern. That's all. Eastern Airlines Group has been renamed EALG Interim Solution, Inc.


N276EA is still active (it is flying today), which is the other one? I have seen no activity on FR24.com for any other EA plane besides 276 in some time.


Just checked flightaware

N278EA, N279EA, N280EA haven't flown in months


N278EA has been in Sanford since 19-July-2017
N279EA is now D-AIRI with Meridiana
N280EA is now CN-RGV with Royal Air Maroc
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:12 am

JFKCMILAXFLL wrote:
MO11 wrote:
Swift acquired the contracts, and leased two airplanes from Eastern. That's all. Eastern Airlines Group has been renamed EALG Interim Solution, Inc.


N276EA is still active (it is flying today), which is the other one? I have seen no activity on FR24.com for any other EA plane besides 276 in some time.


N277EA Is BARR blocked, so It won't show up on FR24.com.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:22 am

jeffh747 wrote:
In a weird turn of events, Havana Air reverted the titles on one of the former Eastern 737s back to the Eastern title and logo. If the company really is dead, why would Swift go through the hassle of replacing the titles back to EAL? Weird for sure, but something to keep an eye on in the coming weeks.


Sounds like trademark protection...not unlike when (in radio) Clear Channel Communications changed its name to iHeartMedia but kept the out-of-home company as Clear Channel to prevent trademark obsolescence. A retro livery does the same thing.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:29 am

Hello. I have written an article about the rise Eastern 2.0.

https://medium.com/@dennissanders/how-t ... 6af8bd0b45

By the way, I did find the profile of the COO of Swift Air. I don't know if that would help, but it's worth a shot. Swift isn't good at responding via Facebook and Twitter.

My own view is that you have to kind of bug people and hold them to their promises.

COO's LinkedIn Profile:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/boris-van-lier-31143824/

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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:38 pm

bmibaby737 wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
JFKCMILAXFLL wrote:

N276EA is still active (it is flying today), which is the other one? I have seen no activity on FR24.com for any other EA plane besides 276 in some time.


Just checked flightaware

N278EA, N279EA, N280EA haven't flown in months


N278EA has been in Sanford since 19-July-2017
N279EA is now D-AIRI with Meridiana
N280EA is now CN-RGV with Royal Air Maroc


Eastern had one other 737, a 738 registered as N283EA. Any word on its fate?
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:40 pm

JFKCMILAXFLL wrote:
Eastern had one other 737, a 738 registered as N283EA. Any word on its fate?

Its been with Nordwind Airlines (VQ-BDC) since April.
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:41 pm

KarlB737 wrote:
Been checking the site for the last three days and it doesn't come up.
Here is the link for the Eastern site:

http://easternairlines.aero/

Our forum had a thread in June indicating an interest by Swift Air.

Here is that thread:

http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1365927

One could speculate that if there has been any movement by Swift Air to acquire Eastern that at some point it would have to alter or replace the web site. If any of our forum members in the Miami area would investigate the situation at the Eastern offices then we might have more info. Also if any members are in the Phoenix or Greensboro area where Swift Air has staff that might be helpful.

SWIFT AIR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS
2406 S 24th Street, Suite E-102
Phoenix, AZ 85034
Tel : 1 (866) 227-9438

SWIFT AIR OPERATIONS HEADQUARTERS
202 Centreport Dr, Suite 400
Greensboro, NC 27409

The Airways article in June reported this:

Swift Air To Acquire Eastern Airlines - EAL Brand Retained

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/breaking-swift-air-to-acquire-eastern-airlines/

In any event an update would be interesting.


I did find the profile of the COO of Swift Air. I don't know if that would help, but it's worth a shot. Swift isn't good at responding via Facebook and Twitter.

My own view is that you have to kind of bug people and hold them to their promises (if it was a promise).

COO's LinkedIn Profile:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/boris-van-lier-31143824/
 
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:31 pm

Well, its been confirmed by many people on the pilot message boards the certificate was surrendered to the FAA, which means no more airline. No more 5 wisemen. All that's left of EA is a corporate shell, maybe an office somewhere, and a lawyer.
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Re: Eastern Web Site Inoperative

Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:05 am

So there are two still flying, N276EA in traditional EA livery, and N277EA, which looks like a weird nightmarish version of it:

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Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:08 am

Per FAA, Eastern's Part-121 Certificate was canceled on November 13th.
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Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:32 am

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