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Turkish Aviation November 2017

Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:44 pm

Happy November to all Turkish Aviation fans,
Things will be slowing down with the coming winter in aviation.
Last months big news was the LOI for TK 787s and the US/Turkey Visa situation.
Hope things will get better soon.

-With over 600 787s flying today, it would be awesome if TK can finalize this order.
-TK and Do&Co relation might come to and end, let's see how this plays out.
-ESB is getting few international service in the coming months, let's see if this continues
-First TK 77F might join the fleet this month.

Please continue with your views, news, photos, rumors and good old sense of humor. No personal attacks, no political stuff.
Thank you all for participating.

You can find last months thread here: viewtopic.php?p=19923193#p19923193
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:06 pm

TK787 wrote:
-ESB is getting few international service in the coming months, let's see if this continues


Thanks for a new thread. Good to see ESB getting these. Hopefully they can build it up.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:08 pm

When is TK taking delivery of it's first NEO aircraft?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:19 pm

Hello everyone. We are almost end of the year.

How are airport statistics looking, still strong recovery?

BOEING777EK wrote:
When is TK taking delivery of it's first NEO aircraft?


First of 92 firm A321NEO start in 2018.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:24 pm

In response to Stylo's post in the previous thread, none of the runways were closed, its just the wind was coming from the southwest. It wasn't particularly strong, mean wind speed at 32km/h when I was looking.

Also another point, TK798 to Basra (SE Iraq) earlier today flew all the way to the North of Iraq (W of Sulaimaniyah, SE of Erbil) but then diverted all the way back to IST. I guess it was more convenient to go back to IST than diverting to the likes of Batman, Adana or Malatya.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:03 pm

It would be interesting to see TK operate a seasonal non-stop service from NYC to BKPR during the summer. I believe that they would definitely be able to fill up an A330 on a 3x a week flight.
 
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:37 am

N47 wrote:
It would be interesting to see TK operate a seasonal non-stop service from NYC to BKPR during the summer. I believe that they would definitely be able to fill up an A330 on a 3x a week flight.


Is this official? Weren't there plans to offer transatlantic flights from Macedonia?
 
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:03 pm

aldrigsomandre wrote:
N47 wrote:
It would be interesting to see TK operate a seasonal non-stop service from NYC to BKPR during the summer. I believe that they would definitely be able to fill up an A330 on a 3x a week flight.


Is this official? Weren't there plans to offer transatlantic flights from Macedonia?


No this is not a official it is just a hypothetical. I have not heard of anything about TATL flights to FYROM although that would also be interesting.

They did run charters from NYC to BKPR and LATI a few years back but it was not managed well and only ran for one summer. Given how the region has developed i certainly think there is potential there. Given that LIMAK manages BKPR I would think that TK would be the ideal airline to run the route.

Here is a link with some passenger numbers: http://www.exyuaviation.com/2017/01/pri ... grows.html
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:55 pm

TC-JTN has been named as Köycegiz. TC-JTO, TC-JTP and TC-JTR are the only A321s left to be named now.
 
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:57 pm

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TC-JTN has been named as Köycegiz. TC-JTO, TC-JTP and TC-JTR are the only A321s left to be named now.


JTO > Silivri
JTP > Yeşilköy
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:25 am

Yakamoz wrote:

JTO > Silivri

Flew IST-PRG with it last week. Saw the name.
 
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:59 am

Anyone having any "insider info" (either from THY or Boeing) about the recently signed MoU/LoI for 20+20 789 Dreamliners? Is there any prospective schedule for initial deliveries?
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:53 pm

Thanks for the correction, haven’t seen new pics of them so that explains. JTR has been off service for a few days, could be getting a name along with other checks.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:28 pm

Thank you TK787 for the new thread.

mercure1 wrote:
Hello everyone. We are almost end of the year.

How are airport statistics looking, still strong recovery?


DHMI will publish October numbers tomorrow or on Saturday.

September results were good, although Eid-Holiday traffic moved partly to August.
IST had a growth rate of 7% and reached 6 million Pax.

This week, the State's Statistical Institute released a quite interesting newsletter about tourism figures for first three quarters.
Number of visitors rose by 23% to 30.4 million.
In 3Q17, when recovery started the rate is 38% to 16.7 million visitors.
http://www.turkstat.gov.tr/PreHaberBult ... o?id=24593
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:06 am

Heard a rumor for upcoming 350 orders.
Flew business BRU-IST , IST - BAH, AMS-IST. The latter was on a A340. It showed its age.
Business class is nice on TK but it's not at the levels of some Asian carriers that I have been on, like CX , KA.

TK 's website is still light years behind and still doesn't accept my united mileage plus number as a valid number. It's frustrating.

Flew LAX-IST on coach. The plane was full to the last seat in economy. What it was really interesting was the fact that there weren't that many people IST as their final destination.
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:07 am

bahadir wrote:
Heard a rumor for upcoming 350 orders.
Flew business BRU-IST , IST - BAH, AMS-IST. The latter was on a A340. It showed its age.
Business class is nice on TK but it's not at the levels of some Asian carriers that I have been on, like CX , KA.

TK 's website is still light years behind and still doesn't accept my united mileage plus number as a valid number. It's frustrating.

Flew LAX-IST on coach. The plane was full to the last seat in economy. What it was really interesting was the fact that there weren't that many people IST as their final destination.

Thanks for the report Baha,
-340's served well, but too bad that they are not being kept up. I recently flew on a UA 777-200. I couldn't believe that the plane was over 22 yrs. old, when I checked its regulation after my flight.
-It is strange that TK website does not accept UA Mileage Plus. Sometimes things work better when you use the old site. (TK website still gives me the option to "revert to the old site")
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:02 pm

Hi Bahadir, what is the rumor you heard about a350 order
 
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:41 pm

What is the status of the new IST ? What percentage the construction on ?
 
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:13 pm

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What is the status of the new IST ? What percentage the construction on ?


"They" say something like 68%. But how's that rating calculated; no one bothers to explain. All I know that the Duty-Free Areas inside the terminal will not be ready for final interior decoration and installations (such as lighting) before mid 2018, if not longer! And it's quite obvious and secretly pronounced that not all of the 5 piers of the main terminal will be available at the "opening ceremony" on 29th Oct. 2018.

There are some rumors that AHL's IATA Code "IST" will be transferred to the NIA and AHL will be allocated a new IATA Code!...
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:32 pm

mafaky wrote:
UAEflyer wrote:
What is the status of the new IST ? What percentage the construction on ?


"They" say something like 68%. But how's that rating calculated; no one bothers to explain. All I know that the Duty-Free Areas inside the terminal will not be ready for final interior decoration and installations (such as lighting) before mid 2018, if not longer! And it's quite obvious and secretly pronounced that not all of the 5 piers of the main terminal will be available at the "opening ceremony" on 29th Oct. 2018.

There are some rumors that AHL's IATA Code "IST" will be transferred to the NIA and AHL will be allocated a new IATA Code!...


I feel that is natural. Same thing happened in Bangkok when Suvarnabhumi opened: it got transferred Don Muang's IATA Code of BKK.
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:51 pm

Like I stated when 787 LOI was placed, TK likely would do the same with the A350. TK joining list of airlines using a mixed 787/350 operation is quite probable.
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:59 pm

UAEflyer wrote:
What is the status of the new IST ? What percentage the construction on ?

Looking at my notes; here is a good blast from the past:
"NEW AIRPORT in ISTANBUL to be opened on October 29th, 2017", said by then the PM DAVUTOGLU, on Feb11, 2015 :)
 
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:38 am

i hope they go with 10 a350 ulr till introduction of 778x
2-3 frames could be utilised for sydney ,rest for mel, scl, lima ect. A theoritical sydney flight
Ist- Syd. 2030-2000+
Syd-ist 2355-1000
If you block 3 frames you can accomodate daiily Vancouver flight as well
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:39 am

ist2014 wrote:
i hope they go with 10 a350 ulr till introduction of 778x
2-3 frames could be utilised for sydney ,rest for mel, scl, lima ect. A theoritical sydney flight
Ist- Syd. 2030-2000+
Syd-ist 2355-1000
If you block 3 frames you can accomodate daiily Vancouver flight as well
Ist


You can't have a SYD departure time of 2355, the curfew starts at 2300. Any SYD departure would need to be scheduled for no later than 2230. I don't know what the hub banks are for TK, or how that would fit in with their schedules.
 
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:09 am

ist2014 wrote:
i hope they go with 10 a350 ulr till introduction of 778x
2-3 frames could be utilised for sydney ,rest for mel, scl, lima ect. A theoritical sydney flight
Ist- Syd. 2030-2000+
Syd-ist 2355-1000
If you block 3 frames you can accomodate daiily Vancouver flight as well
Ist


If you block IST SYD for ease of calculation at 17 hours and the return as 18 hours, a viable pattern for IST connectivity would be:

IST SYD 1500 - 1700+1
SYD IST 2000 - 0600+1

Impossible to leave IST in the 1-2am long haul departure bank without running into the curfew in SYD.
 
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:20 am

But with this schedule LHR connectivity is missing
May be
Ist- syd 1715-1915
Syd-ist 2200-0800 can be an option
 
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:36 pm

I think the reasonable schedule will be as follows.

IST - SYD 19:15-21:15
SYD - IST 22:30-08:30

By this way, almost all euro outposts can be collected and distributed. Obviously 75min turn around time needs to be achieved and any delay may cause curfew conflicts. Perhaps IST departures may have some priority from DHMI for immediate take off in front of any queue.
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:55 pm

Here is the latest IGA completion percentage figure from the Minister of Transportation:
-Nov 4th 70%
-Sep 9th 61.75%
-July 9th 55%
-May 17th 52%.
 
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:28 am

TK787 wrote:
Here is the latest IGA completion percentage figure from the Minister of Transportation:
-Nov 4th 70%
-Sep 9th 61.75%
-July 9th 55%
-May 17th 52%.


I will not believe in any of those figures (in particular, if commented by the Ministry or any Turkish politician) unless they openly explain / declare on what grounds those percentages are based on. :twisted: :banghead:

If these figures are true, then they are progressing minimum 4% a month. Fine! :rotfl:

Then can anyone explain why the Terminal will not be fully ready (in terms of both external and internal construction as well as decoration) on 29th October 2018 and only 3 of the 5 piers will be available at that date? (Note: I'm not even talking about any operational readiness, as that is a totally different issue...)
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:30 am

TK105 wrote:
I think the reasonable schedule will be as follows.

IST - SYD 19:15-21:15
SYD - IST 22:30-08:30

By this way, almost all euro outposts can be collected and distributed. Obviously 75min turn around time needs to be achieved and any delay may cause curfew conflicts. Perhaps IST departures may have some priority from DHMI for immediate take off in front of any queue.


Well you do have a point there but do you think that (technically) a ground time of only 75 minutes will be adequate for a 77W's turnaround (especially after arriving SYD from a rather long distance flight...)?
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:45 am

Is this 70% of phase 1 or of the total?
 
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:25 pm

Yakamoz wrote:
Is this 70% of phase 1 or of the total?

Obviously phase-1 only.
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:57 pm

mafaky wrote:
do you think that (technically) a ground time of only 75 minutes will be adequate for a 77W's turnaround (especially after arriving SYD from a rather long distance flight...)?


I’ve personally seen 60min turnaround time of TK2 (77W) leaving JFK after arriving late from IST (I also never forget the date of this TK2 : July 14th, 2016, which also did a go around while trying to land IST 5-23 on damned 15th of July). So I think it is doable. It is more about ground organisation and boarding organisation. But due to local restrictions of SYD, or may be due to operational rules of aircraft type, there may be obstacles. So an expert view is needed rather then my passanger speculations.

By the way, DHMI published Oct-2017 numbers and ESB continues its perfect performance (+16% dom, +34% int, +19% overall). It will reach 15M+ annual passenger figure for the first time in 2017. If this trend continues as 2017, ESB will become the biggest domestic terminal of Turkey by 2023, 1st century anniversary of the Republic.
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:27 pm

Yakamoz wrote:
AirbusA343 wrote:
TC-JTN has been named as Köycegiz. TC-JTO, TC-JTP and TC-JTR are the only A321s left to be named now.


JTO > Silivri
JTP > Yeşilköy


This is half-meant as a joke, but does TK now have so many aircraft that it is having difficulty finding names for all of them? Some names are coming up twice--for example, there is both an A321 (TC-JRC) and an A330 (TC-JOF) named "Sakarya" now.
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:37 pm

globetrotter94 wrote:
Yakamoz wrote:
AirbusA343 wrote:
TC-JTN has been named as Köycegiz. TC-JTO, TC-JTP and TC-JTR are the only A321s left to be named now.


JTO > Silivri
JTP > Yeşilköy


This is half-meant as a joke, but does TK now have so many aircraft that it is having difficulty finding names for all of them? Some names are coming up twice--for example, there is both an A321 (TC-JRC) and an A330 (TC-JOF) named "Sakarya" now.


I would like to see Turkish Airlines to name the new arriving A/C with African cities/destinations 8-)
 
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:07 pm

America has started to issue visas in Turkey again, but on a limited basis. I believe there are no restrictions on visa type, just that they will be processing visa applications more slowly.

In response, Turkey also released a statement saying they will issue visas again on a limited basis, but I don't know the details of that. More specifically how Visa on Arrival for Americans would work on "limited basis"

Also, TK stock spiked the moment the news broke, as well as many other Turkish stocks.
 
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:50 pm

Great achievement for ESB given the turmoil in the region and almost suspended EU accession. I can't imagine what it would be if EU accession was moving in a positive direction...

I hope the domestic push will also translate into more international direct service because part of the domestic jump is international to domestic or vice versa.

TK105 wrote:
mafaky wrote:
do you think that (technically) a ground time of only 75 minutes will be adequate for a 77W's turnaround (especially after arriving SYD from a rather long distance flight...)?


I’ve personally seen 60min turnaround time of TK2 (77W) leaving JFK after arriving late from IST (I also never forget the date of this TK2 : July 14th, 2016, which also did a go around while trying to land IST 5-23 on damned 15th of July). So I think it is doable. It is more about ground organisation and boarding organisation. But due to local restrictions of SYD, or may be due to operational rules of aircraft type, there may be obstacles. So an expert view is needed rather then my passanger speculations.

By the way, DHMI published Oct-2017 numbers and ESB continues its perfect performance (+16% dom, +34% int, +19% overall). It will reach 15M+ annual passenger figure for the first time in 2017. If this trend continues as 2017, ESB will become the biggest domestic terminal of Turkey by 2023, 1st century anniversary of the Republic.
 
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:24 am

http://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik-h ... liyor.html

My Turkish friend just sent me this.
Wizzair purchasing 49% of Borajet.

Interesting development, SAW is already congested.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:17 pm

DHMI preliminary traffic results for October 2017, Top10

IST 5.780.484 +10.0%
AYT 2.861.544 +22.9%
SAW 2.769.563 +6.4%
ESB 1.465.071 +24.3%
ADB 1.156.826 +8.9%
ADA 489.363 +2.7%
TZX 360.091 +14.9%
DLM 357.058 +11.5%
BJV 264.065 +4.1%
GZT 243.612 +14.4%

YTD data (pdf): http://www.dhmi.gov.tr/getBinaryFile.as ... stikID=127

Stunning results for ESB, I guess it's the only major Airport with positive growth rates throughout the year.
Very likely that it will break the 15 million mark this year :thumbsup:
 
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:47 pm

Amazing Q3 financial results for TK

Turkish Airlines reports net profit up 278.8% to company record US$939 million for 3Q 2017, with revenues up 23.1% to $3.6 billion, and cash and cash equivalents at $2.4 billion at period end.

https://ftnnews.com/news-from-turkey/33 ... -2017.html
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/turkish-a ... 1109-00709

Bravo!
 
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:14 pm

mercure1 wrote:
Amazing Q3 financial results for TK

Turkish Airlines reports net profit up 278.8% to company record US$939 million for 3Q 2017, with revenues up 23.1% to $3.6 billion, and cash and cash equivalents at $2.4 billion at period end.

https://ftnnews.com/news-from-turkey/33 ... -2017.html
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/turkish-a ... 1109-00709

Bravo!


Fantastic figures indeed. I believe that Ilker Ayci recently referred to TK as the "King of the Comeback", and this is really showing. İyi şanslar for the remainder of the year!
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:20 pm

First THY cargo 777 photo is available here

https://www.instagram.com/p/BbSZzmuhUIp/

the post contains 2 photos so don't forget to click the right arrow :duck:
 
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:54 am

With the back of this great Q3 results for TK could we see a firm 787 order by year end ?
 
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:46 am

TK105 wrote:
I think the reasonable schedule will be as follows.

IST - SYD 19:15-21:15
SYD - IST 22:30-08:30

By this way, almost all euro outposts can be collected and distributed. Obviously 75min turn around time needs to be achieved and any delay may cause curfew conflicts. Perhaps IST departures may have some priority from DHMI for immediate take off in front of any queue.


I don't like the chances of a 75 min turnaround for a 77W after a long haul flight into SYD. Any delays ex IST and/or unfavourable head winds (not to mention any ground delays at SYD) means the curfew is in grave danger of being missed. 75 mins is pushing it even if everything goes smoothly, and lets not forget you've got to refuel the 77W with max fuel as well. There would be not any dispensation given to take off after curfew by the authorities given that the airline has elected to adopt such a tight turnaround.

TK's best hope will be the 2nd Sydney airport which is slated to have no curfew.
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:26 am

mercure1 wrote:
Amazing Q3 financial results for TK

Turkish Airlines reports net profit up 278.8% to company record US$939 million for 3Q 2017, with revenues up 23.1% to $3.6 billion, and cash and cash equivalents at $2.4 billion at period end.

https://ftnnews.com/news-from-turkey/33 ... -2017.html
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/turkish-a ... 1109-00709

Bravo!

Similar results from Pegasus also. 537M TL profit for Q3. ($141M)
 
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:53 am

http://www.exyuaviation.com/2017/11/ata ... n-jfk.html

AtlasGlobal will start codesharing with Air Serbia for their NYC flight as well.

Will this effect TK?
 
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:19 pm

SYDSpotter wrote:
TK105 wrote:
I think the reasonable schedule will be as follows.

IST - SYD 19:15-21:15
SYD - IST 22:30-08:30

By this way, almost all euro outposts can be collected and distributed. Obviously 75min turn around time needs to be achieved and any delay may cause curfew conflicts. Perhaps IST departures may have some priority from DHMI for immediate take off in front of any queue.


I don't like the chances of a 75 min turnaround for a 77W after a long haul flight into SYD. Any delays ex IST and/or unfavourable head winds (not to mention any ground delays at SYD) means the curfew is in grave danger of being missed. 75 mins is pushing it even if everything goes smoothly, and lets not forget you've got to refuel the 77W with max fuel as well. There would be not any dispensation given to take off after curfew by the authorities given that the airline has elected to adopt such a tight turnaround.

TK's best hope will be the 2nd Sydney airport which is slated to have no curfew.


Also, this route is 8,087 nautical miles. (PER to LHR is 7,843 nautical miles and QF is flying that with a much-less dense 236-seat configuration) In order to be able to do this route, TK would need to perhaps consider an end-of-the-line order for B77Ls with 2 auxiliary tanks to be able to do this, or a 280t A350-900ULR. Their current aircraft cannot do this route nonstop in any configuration. Now, if the route were to make a stop in PER (without domestic Australian traffic rights, it would be possible with current equipment, but one would need a noontime departure from IST to arrive in SYD no later than 6 PM, and then depart SYD by 8:30 PM to 9 PM), this route is doable.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:55 pm

TC-JMI has been off service for 5 days, I’m beginning to fear that it’s getting the new livery/IFE system.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:53 am

I think for TK best option is to fly here into MEL no curfew
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2017

Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:22 pm

Reporting from on board TK1, TC-LJD "Selimiye", 2 yrs old 77W. All good, will be crossing the Atlantic shortly on a Southernly route. 311 pax on board.

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