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moo wrote:How does a barman or club doorman? If they suspect, they can ask you for ID. If you look old enough, you might get away with it.
77H wrote:I have been carded before by FA's.
My guess would be the legal drinking age of the country in which the plane is registered or the airline is based would be the legal drinking age onboard that particular flight.
For instance, on a US registered aircraft the legal drinking age would be 21 even if your country of citizenship/residence allows or 18 or younger.
77H
GBNWB wrote:I was served many beers back when I was 16 and 17 on BA flights to the USA. No one ever asked for ID.
Same in English pubs back then, providing you didn't cause any trouble they turned a blind eye.
Cunard wrote:Seeing Orlando is over fifty miles from the coast I presume that you sailed from Port Canaveral.
If your sailing on an American based vessel such as those of Carnival or Royal Caribbean the legal age for drinking alcohol is 21, the same applies if vessels from those companies sail in Europe but as the legal age for drinking alcohol in Europe and in particular the United Kingdom it is 18 but the company demand that the parent or guardian of that passenger sign a disclaimer that allows them legally consume alcohol onboard but I can assure you that not everyone signs that disclaimer so you might get some under 21 drinking alcohol onboard and some that are not allowed due to the disclaimer not being signed at check in. On British based cruise ships the legal age for alcohol consumption onboard ship is 18 which is the age of consent as far as alcohol sales are concerned in the United Kingdom.
A planes manifest along with a ships manifest will contain everyone's date of birth that matches the passengers passport details as well as their cabin number or seat number if it's on a plane but of course this is also for any incidents so it's known how many adults and minors are onboard.
It all depends on where the airlines or ships are registered.
PatrickZ80 wrote:For example, the minimum drinking age in France is 16 but during the wine festivities everyone drinks wine and age doesn't matter. I guess if a 14 or 15 year old would ask for a glass of wine on a French airline they'd just get it with no questions asked.
Bostrom wrote:If (as some have claimed) it depends on where the aircraft is registrated, how do airlines with aircraft registred in different countries handle it? E.g. SAS has aircraft registred in Norway and Sweden (two countries with rather strict alcohol laws) as well as Denmark (a country with far more liberal alcohol laws).
BostonBeau wrote:In the 50's, didn't TWA have to stop liquor service when flying over Kansas because Kansas was a "dry" state at the time?
Cunard wrote:Seeing Orlando is over fifty miles from the coast I presume that you sailed from Port Canaveral.
If your sailing on an American based vessel such as those of Carnival or Royal Caribbean the legal age for drinking alcohol is 21, the same applies if vessels from those companies sail in Europe but as the legal age for drinking alcohol in Europe and in particular the United Kingdom it is 18 but the company demand that the parent or guardian of that passenger sign a disclaimer that allows them legally consume alcohol onboard but I can assure you that not everyone signs that disclaimer so you might get some under 21 drinking alcohol onboard and some that are not allowed due to the disclaimer not being signed at check in. On British based cruise ships the legal age for alcohol consumption onboard ship is 18 which is the age of consent as far as alcohol sales are concerned in the United Kingdom.
A planes manifest along with a ships manifest will contain everyone's date of birth that matches the passengers passport details as well as their cabin number or seat number if it's on a plane but of course this is also for any incidents so it's known how many adults and minors are onboard.
It all depends on where the airlines or ships are registered.
GBNWB wrote:Of the hundreds of flights I have taken on AA I will have had a beer on almost every one of them and have never been asked for ID. The only place I get asked for ID in the USA without fail is at the grocery store. What is the point in that? How many 20 year olds are there that look 40? I guess it is because they have to type the DOB into the register?
I have only ever been asked for ID once in the UK and that was at Tesco a few years ago. I had sent my licence to the DVLA and had about £130 worth of food on the belt. The woman working there asked me for my ID, I explained it was at the DVLA, I was actually 32 and that I was a police officer. She looked at my police ID and commented it didnt have my date of birth on there. I resisted the temptation to be sarcastic and told her politely that there are no 17 year old police officers in the UK. She just looked at me with a gormless expression. So I walked off and left her to sort the belt full of shopping I had loaded.
By all means ask people who look youg for ID, but I have grey hair for gods sake! Common sense approach.
Andy33 wrote:GBNWB wrote:I was served many beers back when I was 16 and 17 on BA flights to the USA. No one ever asked for ID.
Same in English pubs back then, providing you didn't cause any trouble they turned a blind eye.
It was and still is the case in the UK that 16 and 17 year-olds can legally drink alcohol in pubs and restaurants provided it is supplied with a meal, they are accompanied by an adult, and don't pay for the alcohol themselves. Since BA haven't yet downgraded transatlantic service to Buy on Board, so there are complimentary meals and alcohol in all classes, only the accompanied by an adult bit might be an issue.
I've never seen anyone asked for ID while onboard a plane, for any purpose. However since the airline takes full passport details at or before check-in on behalf of the UK government, and also supplies the same to the US government, it would be naive to assume the crew don't know how old the passengers are. Much more likely that as long as people are well behaved they just don't care. Most UK citizens will have broken the drinking age rules in their youth.
GBNWB wrote:Of the hundreds of flights I have taken on AA I will have had a beer on almost every one of them and have never been asked for ID. The only place I get asked for ID in the USA without fail is at the grocery store. What is the point in that? How many 20 year olds are there that look 40? I guess it is because they have to type the DOB into the register?
I have only ever been asked for ID once in the UK and that was at Tesco a few years ago. I had sent my licence to the DVLA and had about £130 worth of food on the belt. The woman working there asked me for my ID, I explained it was at the DVLA, I was actually 32 and that I was a police officer. She looked at my police ID and commented it didnt have my date of birth on there. I resisted the temptation to be sarcastic and told her politely that there are no 17 year old police officers in the UK. She just looked at me with a gormless expression. So I walked off and left her to sort the belt full of shopping I had loaded.
By all means ask people who look youg for ID, but I have grey hair for gods sake! Common sense approach.
USAirKid wrote:Hehe good point. It was Port Canaveral. It was Disney Cruise Lines, which is US owned, but the ships are registered in another flag of convenience. This was also back in 2000 or so.
kalvado wrote:Cunard wrote:Seeing Orlando is over fifty miles from the coast I presume that you sailed from Port Canaveral.
If your sailing on an American based vessel such as those of Carnival or Royal Caribbean the legal age for drinking alcohol is 21, the same applies if vessels from those companies sail in Europe but as the legal age for drinking alcohol in Europe and in particular the United Kingdom it is 18 but the company demand that the parent or guardian of that passenger sign a disclaimer that allows them legally consume alcohol onboard but I can assure you that not everyone signs that disclaimer so you might get some under 21 drinking alcohol onboard and some that are not allowed due to the disclaimer not being signed at check in. On British based cruise ships the legal age for alcohol consumption onboard ship is 18 which is the age of consent as far as alcohol sales are concerned in the United Kingdom.
A planes manifest along with a ships manifest will contain everyone's date of birth that matches the passengers passport details as well as their cabin number or seat number if it's on a plane but of course this is also for any incidents so it's known how many adults and minors are onboard.
It all depends on where the airlines or ships are registered.
Carnival ships mostly fly the flag of Panama, with some Bahamas and Malta in the mix. Royal Caribbean has Bahamas, Liberia, Malta I believe.
It would be an economic disaster to operate a cruise ship with US flag as labor costs would go through the roof. Look at the pricing of Mississippi cruises to get a rough idea of how it works...
arcticcruiser wrote:Well underage means different things in different countries. In the US the government can send a young person out in the military to (potentially) kill or be killed in battle. But they can't have a beer until they turn 21. Quite a few countries have the alcohol age limit at 18. Lower age limits exist.
PatrickZ80 wrote:It's the minimum drinking age in the country where the plane is registered, those laws apply on board. This does mean for example that anyone is allowed to drink on a Chinese registered flight since China doesn't have a minimum drinking age. In China, even young children are allowed to drink alcohol and so is the case on a Chinese registered flight.
Besides that, not all countries enforce this law as strong as another. Some countries are very easy-going with it. For example, the minimum drinking age in France is 16 but during the wine festivities everyone drinks wine and age doesn't matter. I guess if a 14 or 15 year old would ask for a glass of wine on a French airline they'd just get it with no questions asked.
BostonBeau wrote:In the 50's, didn't TWA have to stop liquor service when flying over Kansas because Kansas was a "dry" state at the time?
Cunard wrote:Seeing Orlando is over fifty miles from the coast I presume that you sailed from Port Canaveral.
If your sailing on an American based vessel such as those of Carnival or Royal Caribbean the legal age for drinking alcohol is 21, the same applies if vessels from those companies sail in Europe but as the legal age for drinking alcohol in Europe and in particular the United Kingdom it is 18 but the company demand that the parent or guardian of that passenger sign a disclaimer that allows them legally consume alcohol onboard but I can assure you that not everyone signs that disclaimer so you might get some under 21 drinking alcohol onboard and some that are not allowed due to the disclaimer not being signed at check in. On British based cruise ships the legal age for alcohol consumption onboard ship is 18 which is the age of consent as far as alcohol sales are concerned in the United Kingdom..
arcticcruiser wrote:think of an Australia/Canada flight eg. SYD/YVR connecting to YYC.Well underage means different things in different countries. In the US the government can send a young person out in the military to (potentially) kill or be killed in battle. But they can't have a beer until they turn 21. Quite a few countries have the alcohol age limit at 18. Lower age limits exist.