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FoxtrotSierra
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Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:22 am

Will LAX see future A380 ops from any new carriers? Etihad and particularly Qatar are notable exceptions, what are the chances of either upgauging in the future?
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:21 am

I think LAX has reached its prime for A380 operations, QR & EY seem quite unlikely to send their premium heavy configurations and the remaining A380 operators aren't likely either.
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:35 am

RL777 wrote:
I think LAX has reached its prime for A380 operations, QR & EY seem quite unlikely to send their premium heavy configurations and the remaining A380 operators aren't likely either.


ANA might end up doing so... but other than that unless new operators pop up its unlikely.
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:38 am

NH and maybe the return of SQ are not impossible. Oh and VS if they end up getting them . . . hahahahahaha
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:22 am

gregn21 wrote:
NH and maybe the return of SQ are not impossible. Oh and VS if they end up getting them . . . hahahahahaha


I think SQ will come back sooner rather than later, most likely with the new product for the A380, although I am skeptical of NH. But with regard to EY and QR, they are really strange exceptions. When you have CZ and OZ, its pretty surprising not to see QR and EY 380's as well. EY flies its A380 only on prestige routes and LAX is the most obvious example of such a destination. QR doesn't fly the 380 to JFK, but then again, neither does BA, and they still have LHR-LAX on the 380. Qatar's strategy with the 380 is odd, but LAX should still be a prime add in my opinion.
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:39 am

FoxtrotSierra wrote:
gregn21 wrote:
NH and maybe the return of SQ are not impossible. Oh and VS if they end up getting them . . . hahahahahaha


I think SQ will come back sooner rather than later, most likely with the new product for the A380, although I am skeptical of NH. But with regard to EY and QR, they are really strange exceptions. When you have CZ and OZ, its pretty surprising not to see QR and EY 380's as well. EY flies its A380 only on prestige routes and LAX is the most obvious example of such a destination. QR doesn't fly the 380 to JFK, but then again, neither does BA, and they still have LHR-LAX on the 380. Qatar's strategy with the 380 is odd, but LAX should still be a prime add in my opinion.


Isn't BA between LHR and JFK more about frequency, with several other airlines and a large number of flights, including daytime eastbound? It's kind of like LAX - JFK.

If Qatar and Etihad don't have the volume to LAX then a 380 doesn't make sense. Plus, given the distance, doesn't EK fly a longer range or heavier variant to LAX? If so, it might not make sense for the other two.
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:48 am

How about Virgin? Are their A380 orders still intact?
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:51 am

Furthermore, I was searching United award availability and noticed LH will be replacing their A346 daily from Munich with a 388 starting spring/summer 2018...that will be another 380 LH. Does that count as a future A380 operator? :)
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:58 am

beachview wrote:
Furthermore, I was searching United award availability and noticed LH will be replacing their A346 daily from Munich with a 388 starting spring/summer 2018...that will be another 380 LH. Does that count as another A380 :)


Not quite, because FRA simultaneously switches to the A346. Personally, I hope that SQ's A380 will return when they resume LAX-SIN on the A350 (with the cancellation of ICN or NRT.) NH is a possibility, as it would allow them to consolidate their two NRT flights; but, for an aircraft configured for Hawaii, it may not be premium-heavy enough for a market like LAX.
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:28 pm

LAX must be up there with the most A380 operators at one airport.

Otherwise, I would assume SQ would end SIN-ICN-LAX in favour of non-stop SIN-LAX just like what they did with SFO. SIN-NRT-LAX would most likely stay, like how SIN-HKG-SFO still exists alongside the non-stop SIN-SFO. Why did SQ end the A380 at LAX and add an additional flight to ICN in the process?
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:58 pm

NichCage wrote:
Why did SQ end the A380 at LAX and add an additional flight to ICN in the process?


The ICN flight was brought down from SFO with the introduction of the SIN-SFO nonstop. Both NRT and ICN flights were then downgauged to the 77W to offset the capacity increase at LAX.
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:20 pm

NichCage wrote:
LAX must be up there with the most A380 operators at one airport.

Otherwise, I would assume SQ would end SIN-ICN-LAX in favour of non-stop SIN-LAX just like what they did with SFO. SIN-NRT-LAX would most likely stay, like how SIN-HKG-SFO still exists alongside the non-stop SIN-SFO. Why did SQ end the A380 at LAX and add an additional flight to ICN in the process?


Took this photo last week... 3x A380 at TBIT.
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And 1x A380 being towed to TBIT
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Tried to get all 4 in one frame but the pilot of my AS flight was taxing too fast :checkeredflag:

Active A380 operators at LAX:
QF
KE
OZ
BA
AF
CZ
EK

Possible A380 operators at LAX in the future:
SQ (former operator at LAX)
LH (former operator at LAX)
QR
EY

A380 operators that will not operate to LAX in the future:
MH
TG
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:59 pm

Maybe SQ will return with the A380 one day. They replaced SIN-NRT-LAX with B77W not too long ago...
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:00 pm

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How about Virgin? Are their A380 orders still intact?

I would be utterly shocked if Virgin ever got those damn A380's.
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:06 pm

bzcat wrote:
Possible A380 operators at LAX in the future:
SQ (former operator at LAX)
LH (former operator at LAX)
QR
EY


If I recall correctly, LH will fly the 380 from MUC after moving it from FRA and I'm pretty sure its a matter of when, not if SQ will resume the 380. If you factor that in, we're back to square one: Qatar and Etihad.

Which is the more likely of the two?
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:09 pm

LH currently fly the 380 to LAX and have no plans to stop. The current route to FRA for the 380 will switch to MUC in the spring.

QR and EY can barely fill their planes now to LAX so I don't you'll ever see their 380s at LAX. I don't see NH bringing their 380s to LAX since they will be in a high density configuration and fly to HNL.

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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:34 pm

The777Man wrote:
LH currently fly the 380 to LAX and have no plans to stop. The current route to FRA for the 380 will switch to MUC in the spring.

QR and EY can barely fill their planes now to LAX so I don't you'll ever see their 380s at LAX. I don't see NH bringing their 380s to LAX since they will be in a high density configuration and fly to HNL.

The777Man


So does that mean LH will cancel the A380 daily Flight LH456/457 and only have LH450/451 currently operated by a 748?
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:43 pm

FoxtrotSierra wrote:
bzcat wrote:
Possible A380 operators at LAX in the future:
SQ (former operator at LAX)
LH (former operator at LAX)
QR
EY


If I recall correctly, LH will fly the 380 from MUC after moving it from FRA and I'm pretty sure its a matter of when, not if SQ will resume the 380. If you factor that in, we're back to square one: Qatar and Etihad.

Which is the more likely of the two?


My vote is on Qatar.
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:44 pm

FoxtrotSierra wrote:
bzcat wrote:
Possible A380 operators at LAX in the future:
SQ (former operator at LAX)
LH (former operator at LAX)
QR
EY


If I recall correctly, LH will fly the 380 from MUC after moving it from FRA and I'm pretty sure its a matter of when, not if SQ will resume the 380. If you factor that in, we're back to square one: Qatar and Etihad.

Which is the more likely of the two?


My vote is on Qatar.
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:59 pm

beachview wrote:
The777Man wrote:
LH currently fly the 380 to LAX and have no plans to stop. The current route to FRA for the 380 will switch to MUC in the spring.

QR and EY can barely fill their planes now to LAX so I don't you'll ever see their 380s at LAX. I don't see NH bringing their 380s to LAX since they will be in a high density configuration and fly to HNL.

The777Man


So does that mean LH will cancel the A380 daily Flight LH456/457 and only have LH450/451 currently operated by a 748?


No. The A380 flight (LH456/457) will instead be operated by the A340-600. Simply a change of equipment.
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:06 am

B747forever wrote:
beachview wrote:
The777Man wrote:
LH currently fly the 380 to LAX and have no plans to stop. The current route to FRA for the 380 will switch to MUC in the spring.

QR and EY can barely fill their planes now to LAX so I don't you'll ever see their 380s at LAX. I don't see NH bringing their 380s to LAX since they will be in a high density configuration and fly to HNL.

The777Man


So does that mean LH will cancel the A380 daily Flight LH456/457 and only have LH450/451 currently operated by a 748?


No. The A380 flight (LH456/457) will instead be operated by the A340-600. Simply a change of equipment.


Ah I see....they're just swapping equip. Any particular reason why?
 
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:41 am

beachview wrote:
B747forever wrote:
beachview wrote:

So does that mean LH will cancel the A380 daily Flight LH456/457 and only have LH450/451 currently operated by a 748?


No. The A380 flight (LH456/457) will instead be operated by the A340-600. Simply a change of equipment.


Ah I see....they're just swapping equip. Any particular reason why?


LH will transfer 5 A380s from FRA and base them at MUC instead. Apparently it is LH’s way of showing displeasure with Fraport for giving room to Ryanair to expand at FRA.
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Re: Future A380 operators to LAX?

Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:45 am

The777Man wrote:
LH currently fly the 380 to LAX and have no plans to stop. The current route to FRA for the 380 will switch to MUC in the spring.

QR and EY can barely fill their planes now to LAX so I don't you'll ever see their 380s at LAX. I don't see NH bringing their 380s to LAX since they will be in a high density configuration and fly to HNL.

The777Man

Can’t speak for EY but I’ve flown QR to the US multiple times (many being to LAX) and I’ve never seen a light load.

What are your sources? I remember seeing the DOT figures and it showed a high LF to LAX.

I don’t see EY or QR sending their A380 to LAX. They both only have a handful of frames and very few (if any) on order. It’s a very aircraft intensive route due to the length so they would need to spare a few for the route. My bet is JFK for QR in the US and that would be all - similar to EY.
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