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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:25 am

A350 wrote:
Some of the renderings show blue engines while others show white ones. I hope so much that the ones with the blue engines are correct :-)


The actual Lufthansa renderings have white engines.
Those blue ones are photoshopped.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:38 am

pretty boring and unimaginative but not bad...i feel the same way about it as i did about AC's refresh. At least AC kept the red!

i think LH should have (maybe) extended the white stripe along the leading edge of the vertical tail along all edges of the vertical tail. I think it could have added a bit of pop to the, otherwise, boring tail. you can see what I mean below. Added stripe using MS paint :)

Kinda makes the tail stand out a bit, no?

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:15 am

atcanobbio wrote:
pretty boring and unimaginative but not bad...i feel the same way about it as i did about AC's refresh. At least AC kept the red!

i think LH should have (maybe) extended the white stripe along the leading edge of the vertical tail along all edges of the vertical tail. I think it could have added a bit of pop to the, otherwise, boring tail. you can see what I mean below. Added stripe using MS paint :)

Kinda makes the tail stand out a bit, no?

[]https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1984x1113-1/lh_at_8f880c9e2b0fbe82ae3437f257ca0085ff76b81c.jpg


Well, at least there is much less white on AC’s livery, which I still think manages to stick out somewhat. This looks like it could be any airline
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:25 am

Terrible, looks just like everything else out there. White, bland, boring. Seems to be the mantra these days.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:28 am

The hashtag should have been #LufthansaBlewIt instead of #LufthansaBlue
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:46 am

atcanobbio wrote:
pretty boring and unimaginative but not bad...i feel the same way about it as i did about AC's refresh. At least AC kept the red!

i think LH should have (maybe) extended the white stripe along the leading edge of the vertical tail along all edges of the vertical tail. I think it could have added a bit of pop to the, otherwise, boring tail. you can see what I mean below. Added stripe using MS paint :)

Kinda makes the tail stand out a bit, no?

Image


This is actually my favorite tweak so far! Very refreshing and makes the bland livery more interesting.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:23 am

I'm surprised nobody has taken note that the 748 is the livery's maiden aircraft and not the a380 :P .

I can't say I'm surprised, what were we expecting? Something distinct and creative? That's a rarity nowadays! (AC is one example) But it's not bad, just not impressive or eye-candy. It's a nice, formal look for an airline that means business.

As always, a livery can always be just one feature away from being drastically better, as many have demonstrated.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:07 am

What a horrid livery.

This is United sans the gray belly. And I think its an objective fact that United’s livery is as bad as China Eastern or Air China. Now we can add Lufthansa to it.
At least they kept the crane. But still. So bad.
Sorry Lufthansa, but this doesnt come across as appealing or clean or even German.

It comes across as generic. Something I would say no airline should try to be.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:11 am

Since I like to fly in FSX I figured I'll make one for the 777F to see how it feels.
Again, I like what they did. Very clean.

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:13 am

PixelPilot wrote:
Since I like to fly in FSX I figured I'll make one for the 777F to see how it feels.
Again, I like what they did. Very clean.

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Simply Blue version of Qantas livery
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:14 am

Not exciting but classy and sleek, IMO. I wasn't especially attached to the yellow and I prefer the new shade of blue.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:57 am

Amazing that they dump their own yellow, on which they have a Copyright. The particular RAL number is owned by them
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:21 am

A nice clean design and a step forward from their current livery. With the yellow it looks very 20th century, I can understand why they got rid of it. Less is more. I like it!
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:15 am

PanHAM wrote:
Amazing that they dump their own yellow, on which they have a Copyright. The particular RAL number is owned by them


Nope, you will still find it next to the left front door
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:18 am

Wow, what a bore. That could literally be ANY airline’s livery. Any cut-rate, uninspired airline. How disappointing.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:20 am

Looks like Malév resurected - and bought Lufthansa. :D

 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:48 am

lerc wrote:
Sorry Lufthansa, but this doesnt come across as appealing or clean or even German.


I do agree on the not very appealing, but clean I would say it is. As for the "German" - well, it is a quite straightforward livery, no knickknack on it, and, to be honest, a little boring. I think that pretty much resembles the image of us Germans. Plus, I can very well imagine this one to last another 30 years like the current livery did.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:11 am

PixelPilot wrote:
Since I like to fly in FSX I figured I'll make one for the 777F to see how it feels.
Again, I like what they did. Very clean.

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I knew I've seen something like it before:
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Ukraine International Cargo
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:24 am

atcanobbio wrote:
pretty boring and unimaginative but not bad...i feel the same way about it as i did about AC's refresh. At least AC kept the red!

i think LH should have (maybe) extended the white stripe along the leading edge of the vertical tail along all edges of the vertical tail. I think it could have added a bit of pop to the, otherwise, boring tail. you can see what I mean below. Added stripe using MS paint :)

Kinda makes the tail stand out a bit, no?

Image


I do agree that it would look slightly more sophisticated, but at the same time it would be even more similar to the abomination that is Joon:

 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:30 am

I'm pretty sure that the Board of Directors (or whoever did the final decision) had ordered the designer to "Make it boring! We are a business not a Disneyland in the skies!"

And that is what they got. I, too, would have preferred a bit less white but at least this is something where the eyes can rest upon, not some whacky accident in the paint shop. Please remember, the livery has to last at least 20 years!
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:05 am

Why oh why?! Lufthansa had the chance to do something new, vibrant and fresh, shake off that stuffy image and stand out as an airline looking forwards, setting itself apart from the others. Now they just look like a German arm of Qantas.

With this new livery, they have not joined the 21st century, they've gone back to the 90's!
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:20 am

brn1976 wrote:
Looks like Malév resurected - and bought Lufthansa. :D



Well spotted! At least Malév had the dark blue nose cone as a characteristic touch. To my eyes this brought some balance to the design: the blue on the nose echoed the colour on the empennage and thus made the aircraft look less tail-heavy.

LH more or less copying a twenty-year old MA livery... Who would have thought.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:00 am

Hmm I feel like the font doesn’t really fit the elegant look they are trying to achieve and this livery looks way too much of a hybrid between several liveries now which is not a good thing. Anyway in my opinion, the new colors would have been ok if they had kept them to the tail and painted the belly and engines with the same blue color where it is grey today, made the logo yellow (and maybe added a thin yellow cheat line at the back of the tail like SQ and top of the blue belly and at the engine nacelles). This way the current logo font would still look appropriate.

You’re welcome, Lufthansa
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:17 am

holzmann wrote:
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Step in the right direction.

I actually like that, it's like SQ's orange strake at the back of their tails, adds warmth.
Personnally, I like the new livery, that deep blue & silver logo are classy - very European.
Not sure however the public will spot the new LH frames from afar as easily as before...
I would have made the crane and the circle larger, like TK's...

I don't know who of Qantas or UTA came up with that Tail design, but it's one of the best ideas I've seen in past decades
( only leapfrogged by TG / LA designs... EY is the last example I can think of doing it differently... )
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:37 am

Airdolomiti wrote:
but at the same time it would be even more similar to the abomination that is Joon:


...this is it - Joonhansa :spin:
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:51 am

atcanobbio wrote:
pretty boring and unimaginative but not bad...i feel the same way about it as i did about AC's refresh. At least AC kept the red!

i think LH should have (maybe) extended the white stripe along the leading edge of the vertical tail along all edges of the vertical tail. I think it could have added a bit of pop to the, otherwise, boring tail. you can see what I mean below. Added stripe using MS paint :)

Kinda makes the tail stand out a bit, no?

Image


Nice!
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:28 pm

It's Royal Airlines come back form the dead.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:45 pm

Joon
Royal Airlines Canada
Airbus House Colors
Malév
UTA


When you can relate Lufthansa's livery to all these airlines liveries, you know something really uninspiring and not creative have been made!
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:55 pm

787Driver wrote:
Hmm I feel like the font doesn’t really fit the elegant look they are trying to achieve and this livery looks way too much of a hybrid between several liveries now which is not a good thing. Anyway in my opinion, the new colors would have been ok if they had kept them to the tail and painted the belly and engines with the same blue color where it is grey today, made the logo yellow (and maybe added a thin yellow cheat line at the back of the tail like SQ and top of the blue belly and at the engine nacelles). This way the current logo font would still look appropriate.

You’re welcome, Lufthansa


Alternatively if they insist on removing the yellow, do the same modifications but with silver instead of yellow.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:19 pm

 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:40 pm

Hey, they are ripping off TAROM's livery!

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:59 pm

Not this one, the previous one with the old tail and the white engines:
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:23 pm

N415XJ wrote:
767333ER wrote:
My rough photoshop here shows all they would have had to do to make a livery I could say looks pretty good.
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And a little yellow on the tail would add the finishing touch to make this livery at least marginally interesting

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Yellow element is exactly what I have in mind. I am in advertising industry and we tend to avoid using two color in our artwork, aircraft is not an exception. People tend to associate two color masterpiece as something from Black & White printing era. So, three or more colors application is encouraged.

I don't do photoshop, but I think the crane can be yellow too, to add the presence of third color element. A bit more graphic detail (probably an oversized/cropped crane logo - similar to NW's tail prior to their merger) can be added as a background to make it look less "plain". Then add the yellow crane at the front of the title and that's it. But that's just my subjectivity, though.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:37 pm

It's elegant and classy, but at the same time it's really bland and boring. Seems like the rebranding design budget was about €100.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:07 pm

I'm seeing Polar Air Cargo here.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:15 pm

Some "sneak peak" photographs of the real thing from Lufthansa on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pg/Lufthansa/p ... 6323324004
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:37 pm

JetBuddy wrote:
It's elegant and classy, but at the same time it's really bland and boring. Seems like the rebranding design budget was about €100.


I rather have bland and boring but classy than the "dolphin" swoosh with made the KLM livery cheap.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:37 pm

Looking at this again with a day's worth of not-thinking-about-it, I think what irks me more than the missing yellow is the font. It's no longer Helvetica (good), but it's really so close to Helvetica to hardly matter that they changed the font to begin with. So it looks a bit lacklustre. The tail is grand, classy, clean, not cheap-looking - and then you have the title at the front which basically looks like they said "why bother even changing anything here".
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:07 pm

marcelh wrote:
JetBuddy wrote:
It's elegant and classy, but at the same time it's really bland and boring. Seems like the rebranding design budget was about €100.


I rather have bland and boring but classy than the "dolphin" swoosh with made the KLM livery cheap.


I agree with you on that. The swoosh on the front of the KLM livery just looks ridiculus on it's own. I would have been in favor of a more "Dreamliner-esque" swoop that flows over the entire fuselage.

But back to the Lufthansa livery. It reminds me of this quote:

"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

It's a sentiment I agree with, but if they took away anything more, there would hardly be anything left.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:31 pm

I personally don’t miss the yellow as blue and yellow is a colour combination that doesn’t work for me unless it’s something Swedish like IKEA where it is understandable, it just doesn’t look very nice to me. What bothers me with this livery is they did their thing on the tail and otherwise it’s all white, all of it. People are comparing it to a year ago when Air Canada released theirs, but this is far plainer than that. Air Canada’s has tail again with the logo and colours of paint, but it also has black engines with a logo, black belly with a logo, black mask, and the usual font, but again with a logo. This Lufthansa is just white, white, white with a band of blue at the back. The previous livery didn’t excite me whatsoever, but it had more colour than this despite having very little colour.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:35 pm

The new one looks more professional than rainbow happy liveries.
I love ANA themed ones for example but they are there besides the standard one.
Well thought minimalism will stand against time vs doodley doo's that look bleh after you see them for a week or two.
And I agree about KLM. On some birds it just looks ugly.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:42 pm

JetBuddy wrote:
But back to the Lufthansa livery. It reminds me of this quote:

"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

It's a sentiment I agree with, but if they took away anything more, there would hardly be anything left.


That is a nice quote. And it is appropriate here. I think the new livery will easily grow on us, and in a few years we will not know any better than that this is quite a good livery. Even though it is nothing special, which might be just the trick that does it.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:28 pm

LH will do two demo/marketing tours on Feb. 8th. across Germany/Europe.
One with a A321 and one with the B747-8.

https://twitter.com/lufthansanews/statu ... 8110139393

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVCp6hHW0AI ... name=large

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVCp5oRXUAA ... name=large
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:33 pm

BobMUC wrote:
LH will do two demo/marketing tours on Feb. 8th. across Germany/Europe.
One with a A321 and one with the B747-8.

https://twitter.com/lufthansanews/statu ... 8110139393

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVCp6hHW0AI ... name=large


To promote a revolting new identity :roll:

EK413
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:15 am

leleko747 wrote:
Joon
Royal Airlines Canada
Airbus House Colors
Malév
UTA


When you can relate Lufthansa's livery to all these airlines liveries, you know something really uninspiring and not creative have been made!


Don’t forget Fedex and the original Allegiant Air.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:33 am

Can someone do a photoshop and make the doors yellow, like UTA did on their planes with the green? Just for s&g.
 
 
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:05 am

Here is the video of the 748 leaving the paint hangar.. Is it me, or is that black instead of blue?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xlhcPh ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:08 am

rikkus67 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/Romaspottersclub/photos/a.808776185804323.1073741826.220247127990568/1988639051151358/?type=3&theater
AVENSAB727 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=192156388197875&set=gm.1913971282249861&type=3&theater&ifg=1

Can someone post a picture without link to FB (I am currently in China, where FB is blocked but would love to see it...)

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