Rest of the UK thread - 2017

Samrnpage · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:07 pm

I know there are individual threads for MAN, LGW, LHR etc but this thread could be for the rest of the UK.

Is there one of these yet? - If so delete mods

Ill get the ball rolling.... A little news I know of.

Doncaster airport is now the fast growing airport in the UK.
Flybe is going through an overhaul period - cutting the number of seats and closing certain routes due to poor financial performance. Bookings for next year already 4% up.
Wizzair increasing routes in the UK, adding new routes from Liverpool, Luton and Doncaster.

Would love to hear other peoples news.

Btblue · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:24 pm

I actually think this is a nice idea. Great for those local to airports such as EMA, NWI, BRS. CWL and so on.

My local airport, CBG sadly stopped their temporary passenger flights last year. They had scheduled flights with Darwin and British Airways (SunAir) utilising the 328JET - which I was fortunate to fly on. The British Airways flight still operates but only for Astra Zeneca as a corporate week-day shuttle.

You do get a mixture of aircraft visiting Marshalls Aerospace for maintenance, recently 747s, 777s, 767s, A330 and A340s, the odd 757 and have had the BA 787-8 fleet in too. Also a mix of A320s from EasyJet when their lease is up, ready for repaint and re-lease. A fair bit of GA visits, big private jets ranging from the BBJ to Bombardier. Some military flights, mostly C130s and frequent visits from cargo operator Atlantic with their 737 flights carrying racing horses across europe (Newmarket race course is just 12 miles from Cambridge).

MrHMSH · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:32 pm

Big SOU fan here, what little news there is has already been threaded on here, but still quite exciting news that EZY are starting flights, albeit only seasonal and to one destination. Not much room for expansion.

Samrnpage · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:38 pm

EZY at SOU is huge, if it works it could unlock a few other airlines and routes. How full to capacity is SOU?

qf789 · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:38 pm

Samrnpage wrote:
I know there are individual threads for MAN, LGW, LHR etc but this thread could be for the rest of the UK.

Is there one of these yet? - If so delete mods

Ill get the ball rolling.... A little news I know of.

Doncaster airport is now the fast growing airport in the UK.
Flybe is going through an overhaul period - cutting the number of seats and closing certain routes due to poor financial performance. Bookings for next year already 4% up.
Wizzair increasing routes in the UK, adding new routes from Liverpool, Luton and Doncaster.

Would love to hear other peoples news.

The onlyactive thread from the UK is the Manchester thread, I haven't come across a thread for LHR or LGW thread. May I suggest that this thread just be named "The UK Thread". We will keep this thread on a yearly basis at the moment however I suspect it will get a lot of activity, if that is the case we can run it monthly similar to the Australian, New Zealand, Turkish and Irish threads.

Arion640 · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:40 pm

I didn't realise LGW and LHR had their own threads. Seen the MAN one in the past but thats about it.

My local airport Cardiff will shortly be seeing service from Qatar Airways.

Samrnpage · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:41 pm

Btblue wrote:
I actually think this is a nice idea. Great for those local to airports such as EMA, NWI, BRS. CWL and so on.

My local airport, CBG sadly stopped their temporary passenger flights last year. They had scheduled flights with Darwin and British Airways (SunAir) utilising the 328JET - which I was fortunate to fly on. The British Airways flight still operates but only for Astra Zeneca as a corporate week-day shuttle.

You do get a mixture of aircraft visiting Marshalls Aerospace for maintenance, recently 747s, 777s, 767s, A330 and A340s, the odd 757 and have had the BA 787-8 fleet in too. Also a mix of A320s from EasyJet when their lease is up, ready for repaint and re-lease. A fair bit of GA visits, big private jets ranging from the BBJ to Bombardier. Some military flights, mostly C130s and frequent visits from cargo operator Atlantic with their 737 flights carrying racing horses across europe (Newmarket race course is just 12 miles from Cambridge).

CBG has potential to be another "Southend" type London overflow airport, I think the main issue is Ryanair and Easyjet have bases at nearby LTN and STN and other airlines just dont have the appeal. Must be fun to see some of the heavies in for maintenance though.

Samrnpage · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:42 pm

The onlyactive thread from the UK is the Manchester thread, I haven't come across a thread for LHR or LGW thread. May I suggest that this thread just be named "The UK Thread". We will keep this thread on a yearly basis at the moment however I suspect it will get a lot of activity, if that is the case we can run it monthly similar to the Australian, New Zealand, Turkish and Irish threads.[/quote]

Of course. Let's keep this one going!

sassiciai · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:57 pm

I for one am not really in favour of these "<place> threads"

If there is real news, something of interest to many people, hiding it in a <place> thread is not of much use. What content can go into a "UK thread" to keep it interesting if the news is actually in parallel posted in more focused threads? IMHO, there are already too many "What's going in <XYZ> threads"

I prefer more open threads, and avoid the parochial ones where real news can actually get lost to the wider population!

Just my opinion, and preference!

TheLion · Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:30 pm

LHR has a thread, so does BHX, along with MAN, yet they seem hard to keep going. Not seen the LGW thread however.

Arion640 · Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:44 pm

Perhaps UK aviation thread maybe? New Zealand Aviation and the Dublin thread seems to keep going.

TheGeordielad · Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:00 pm

Little catch up
New airline waves secure AOC
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... for-launch

Eastern Airways FlyBe franchise to kick in Q4 with all Eastern flights operating for FlyBe by Eastern
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... -from-4q17

(Already known) Norwegian possibly looking at Monarch
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... h-airlines

Virgin Atlantic boosts B744s flights from Manchester 4x JFK 3x ATL

Glasgow Prestwick confident of the potential of a flight to London
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre ... prestwick/

Air Canada Rouge cancels Planned Vancouver to London Gatwick

Birmingham Airport hits 13 million
(Well done!)

AAMDanny · Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:07 pm

TheGeordielad wrote:
Little catch up

Virgin Atlantic boosts B744s flights from Manchester 4x JFK 3x ATL

(Well done!)

A333 not B744

by738 · Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:09 pm

Samrnpage wrote:
Wizzair increasing routes in the UK, adding new routes from Liverpool, Luton and Doncaster.

...but cutting loads of UK routes elsewhere

by738 · Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:12 pm

TheGeordielad wrote:
Glasgow Prestwick confident of the potential of a flight to London
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre ... prestwick/

Nothing here... think i saw that same 'confidence' 5 years ago.
Who would do it? BE ?

Danfearn77 · Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:13 pm

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AAMDanny wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
Little catch up

Virgin Atlantic boosts B744s flights from Manchester 4x JFK 3x ATL

(Well done!)

A333 not B744

The JFK route will see a 3 weekly A333 and a 4 weekly B744 while the ATL service will see a 4 weekly A333 and a 3 weekly B744 if I've read it right....

8herveg · Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:14 pm

AAMDanny wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
Little catch up

Virgin Atlantic boosts B744s flights from Manchester 4x JFK 3x ATL

(Well done!)

A333 not B744

B744 according to MAN thread and VS website!

NichCage · Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:15 pm

Flybe is cutting a few routes from London Southend, and one of them is Cologne/Bonn.

Why can't Flybe make Cologne/Bonn work from Birmingham or even London Southend? This is the second time the airline will be pulling out of the airport. Even Air France and KLM cut Cologne/Bonn as well too, and EasyJet as well.

TheGeordielad · Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:28 pm

NichCage wrote:
Flybe is cutting a few routes from London Southend, and one of them is Cologne/Bonn.

Why can't Flybe make Cologne/Bonn work from Birmingham or even London Southend? This is the second time the airline will be pulling out of the airport. Even Air France and KLM cut Cologne/Bonn as well too, and EasyJet as well.

From London Southend possibly because its close to Stansted and Ryanair offer cheaper flights.

cornishsimon · Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:30 pm

NQY still growing strongly.

https://www.cornwallairportnewquay.com/ ... -stuttgart

Stuttgart added weekly for the full summer 18 added to the increased season for Düsseldorf

Ryanair returning with 3 twice weekly routes

Are lingus regional continue DUB daily and ORK twice weekly.

Biggest growth is MAN which topped 10,000 in August for the first time.

cs

Arion640 · Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:40 pm

by738 wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
Glasgow Prestwick confident of the potential of a flight to London
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre ... prestwick/

Nothing here... think i saw that same 'confidence' 5 years ago.
Who would do it? BE ?

I would say they'd be targeting Easyjet to LTN, LGW or SEN. Most likely they'd want them to LGW. I know they currently have zero presence at Prestwick but quite the opposite at the former 3. Then again potentially FR to STN, or BE.

Samrnpage · Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:53 pm

Would a London - Prestwick route even be worth it? Surely that is a low yielding route. Maybe Easyjet could use it to help interline with Norwegian and Westjet at LGW.

TheGeordielad · Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:34 pm

Ryanair uk suspensions
Edinburgh-Hamburg
Edinburgh-Szczecin
Glasgow-Gran Canaria
London Gatwick-Belfast
London Stansted-Edinburgh
London Stansted-Glasgow
Newcastle-Faro
Newcastle-Gdansk

TheGeordielad · Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:35 pm

EasyJet help to develop an all electric aircraft
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre ... ric-plane/

TheGeordielad · Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:36 pm

Heathrow airport urges U.K. Government to scarp domestic air tax
http://www.airport-technology.com/news/ ... ax-5932320

TheGeordielad · Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:38 pm

Kuwait and U.K. Sign agreement on civil aviation cooperation
https://www.zawya.com/mena/en/story/Kuw ... 100514637/

TheGeordielad · Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:41 pm

Ryanair facing legal action from uk aviation body for persistently misleading passengers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/ ... ellations/

TheGeordielad · Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:43 pm

Two in court accused of weapon possession when coming through Newcastle Airport.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor ... n-13681406

TheGeordielad · Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:46 pm

Walsh confirms Air Berlin bid
(Including this as IAG HQ is London)
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre ... erlin-bid/

TheGeordielad · Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:52 pm

Arion640 wrote:
by738 wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
Glasgow Prestwick confident of the potential of a flight to London
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre ... prestwick/

Nothing here... think i saw that same 'confidence' 5 years ago.
Who would do it? BE ?

I would say they'd be targeting Easyjet to LTN, LGW or SEN. Most likely they'd want them to LGW. I know they currently have zero presence at Prestwick but quite the opposite at the former 3. Then again potentially FR to STN, or BE.

Or possibly a 1 or 2 daily British Airways to Heathrow which is unlikely to be profitable and whether ba will do it or not.

Bhoy · Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:06 pm

Arion640 wrote:
by738 wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
Glasgow Prestwick confident of the potential of a flight to London
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre ... prestwick/

Nothing here... think i saw that same 'confidence' 5 years ago.
Who would do it? BE ?

I would say they'd be targeting Easyjet to LTN, LGW or SEN. Most likely they'd want them to LGW. I know they currently have zero presence at Prestwick but quite the opposite at the former 3. Then again potentially FR to STN, or BE.

Flybe are to open GLA-SEN from the end of next month, which surely puts any talk of PIK picking up a London route on ice again.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/16-new-fli ... -1-4573055

Samrnpage · Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:07 pm

Is the QR flight to Cardiff ever going to happen? Some people I know are saying it might not even hit the soil in wales.

Samrnpage · Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:16 pm

Also - Jet 2 to increase seats at LBA by 50000! Is this due to Monarch do you reckon?

TheGeordielad · Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:49 pm

Samrnpage wrote:
Is the QR flight to Cardiff ever going to happen? Some people I know are saying it might not even hit the soil in wales.

For now it is QR CEO has faith that it will work.

TheGeordielad · Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:50 pm

Samrnpage wrote:
Also - Jet 2 to increase seats at LBA by 50000! Is this due to Monarch do you reckon?

Yes as LBA is Jet2s second largest base and home therefore they would be quick to attend to Monarchs demise.

TC957 · Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:57 pm

Samrnpage wrote:
Is the QR flight to Cardiff ever going to happen? Some people I know are saying it might not even hit the soil in wales.

The DOH - CWL flight has been announced by QR - from next May with B788.

gkirk · Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:15 am

BA increasing LHR-INV to 10 x weekly.

EK expected to announce A380 to GLA.

LAXLHR · Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:20 am

Samrnpage wrote:
I know there are individual threads for MAN, LGW, LHR etc but this thread could be for the rest of the UK.

Is there one of these yet? - If so delete mods

Ill get the ball rolling.... A little news I know of.

Doncaster airport is now the fast growing airport in the UK.
Flybe is going through an overhaul period - cutting the number of seats and closing certain routes due to poor financial performance. Bookings for next year already 4% up.
Wizzair increasing routes in the UK, adding new routes from Liverpool, Luton and Doncaster.

Would love to hear other peoples news.

"Rest of the UK"?
British Airways has absolutely no idea what you are talking about. :bouncy:

Egerton · Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:46 am

This is a valuable thread, congratulations to the Topic Author

TUGMASTER · Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:58 am

Just booked CWL-VLY on Eastern for £20.
And on a rare-ish Jetstream 41.
BARGAIN...!!!

gunnerman · Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:16 pm

TheGeordielad wrote:
Virgin Atlantic boosts B744s flights from Manchester 4x JFK 3x ATL

ATL is 4x but will drop to 3x after 4 November 2017 - loses Sunday flight.

User001 · Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:29 pm

gunnerman wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
Virgin Atlantic boosts B744s flights from Manchester 4x JFK 3x ATL

ATL is 4x but will drop to 3x after 4 November 2017 - loses Sunday flight.

The B744 relates to Summer which will see daily flights, 3xB744 and 4xA333 flights.

gunnerman · Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:28 pm

Your information is way wrong.
1. All flights from MAN to JFK and ATL are, and will be, operated by 333s.
2. JFK is now 7x, drops to 4x after 2 November 2017.
3. ATL is 4x but will drop to 3x after 4 November 2017 - loses Sunday flight.

User001 · Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:41 pm

Gunnerman.

My information isn't wrong, The timetable you speak of is for winter, I'm talking about summer.

From the summer season, both ATL and JFK go back to daily.

The B744 starts on ATL from 30th March 3 weekly, and then 4 weekly JFK from May.

It's clearly in the booking engine, take a look.

gunnerman · Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:14 am

Airlines are still operating the 2017 summer schedule which runs until end October. If you mean next year, you have to say "summer 2018".

Samrnpage · Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:15 pm

https://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA ... rports.pdf

Showing the most recent passenger figures for the UK

User001 · Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:25 pm

gunnerman wrote:
Airlines are still operating the 2017 summer schedule which runs until end October. If you mean next year, you have to say "summer 2018".

I did say 'from March 30th' which would have indicated S18. Why not just admit you were mistaken rather than do this carry on.

gunnerman · Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:41 pm

Your original post was:
"The B744 relates to Summer which will see daily flights, 3xB744 and 4xA333 flights."

Only later did you refer to "March 30".

User001 · Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:50 pm

It was referred to further up the thread too and you seem to be the only person who had this confusion?

Bealine251 · Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:57 pm

Gentlemen, Gentleman please. I was enjoying the tread until the point scoring. Now please carry on with the subject. Thank you

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