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Why is D-ABVM "out of order?"

Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:01 pm

Most of LH's planes are assigned a letter at the end of their series in sequence of delivery, A, B, C, etc. Thus, you would expect higher l/n to have later letters in the alphabet within a given series. Looking through the fleet list, D-ABVM is l/n 1143, then VO is 1080. Based on line number, one would expect VM to be between VT (1110) and VU (1191). Does anybody know why the numbering is off?

Link (scroll down to 747-400): https://www.lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa/
 
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Re: Why is D-ABVM "out of order?"

Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:45 am

Not sure about specifics with regard to Lufthansa but often a certain plane can be delayed for a certain reason or the ex-test planes which have a lower number but the registrations are done almost last just before delivery. This can often cause "older" planes to have a later registration.
A306 A313 A319 A320 A321 A332 A333 A343 A345 A346 A388

B712 B733 B734 B735 B738 B742 B744 B752 B763 B772 B77E B773 B77W
 
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Re: Why is D-ABVM "out of order?"

Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:13 am

AFAIK, D-ABVM was not originally built for LH, but for a VVIP customer. It was not taken up by that VVIP and then LH took it. I remember reading a report at that time in some German aviation magazine (I think Aero International) in which they reported from the delivery flight of this specific frame. IIRC it was, contrary to LH's other 744s, ferried "green" to Germany.
 
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Re: Why is D-ABVM "out of order?"

Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:19 am

george77300 wrote:
Not sure about specifics with regard to Lufthansa but often a certain plane can be delayed for a certain reason or the ex-test planes which have a lower number but the registrations are done almost last just before delivery. This can often cause "older" planes to have a later registration.


Ye was going to say this, look at A6-EDJ in Emirates for example. EDJ was built in 2006 and used by Airbus up until 2010, where as EDA was built in 2008 and delivered to Emirates in 2008 too.

So it is not necessarily down to the aircraft age but more related to when the aircraft actually enters the fleet.
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Re: Why is D-ABVM "out of order?"

Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:35 am

The "original" D-ABVM is the V8-ALI (L/N 910), which went to Brunei Government straight at delivery to Lufthansa. I guess L/N 1143 is just to fill the void left by the departure of L/N 910.

It also seems that Brunei Government maintains quite a good relationship with Lufthansa as the latter did the majority of the maintenance for V8-ALI. The plane is also stored in HAM, suggesting that Lufthansa may be maintaining it (but this is just my wild guess).

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Re: Why is D-ABVM "out of order?"

Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:50 pm

I know some early ones get flip-flopped (e.g. the 748i prototype #2 was supposed to be D-ABYE after testing), but that didn't seem to make sense here.

Thanks all for the answers, the swap with 910 makes the most sense.

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