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Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:00 pm

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I wonder if G4 will eventually decide to fly transcontinental routes? Maybe KBGR - KLAS? I wish they would initiate KELP - KEWR!

They already do, but it’s only going to be routes with a lot of demand. Transcons use up an aircraft for a long amount of time, so you need routes that can fill seats. CVG-LAX is the longest G4 route, but there are over 800 people flying both ways between these cities per day. G4 would have a hard time making money doing long-thin transcon routes.
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:14 pm

Allegiant A320 N259NV ferried from SAL to PIE today for entry into active service. 44 x A320 on property now at Allegiant.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N259NV
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant? - discussion thread

Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:39 pm

Before I understood AC utilazation better, I didn't understand why they didn't deploy their A320's and former 757s on red eyes from LAS to the East coast. Now I understand they would have to overnight crews on those routes with low fares, its better to just park the planes.
 
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Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:41 pm

spinkid wrote:
Before I understood AC utilazation better, I didn't understand why they didn't deploy their A320's and former 757s on red eyes from LAS to the East coast. Now I understand they would have to overnight crews on those routes with low fares, its better to just park the planes.


I also believe Allegiant aircraft have one of the lowest rates of uses/cycles a day, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:56 am

jgcotter wrote:
Allegiant A320 N259NV ferried from SAL to PIE today for entry into active service. 44 x A320 on property now at Allegiant.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N259NV


Here is a photo is 259

https://twitter.com/P51Red/status/10509 ... 53536?s=19
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Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:07 am

Does anyone have info on the final G4 MD-80 flight out of Fresno? I'm thinking of taking it, as I'm sure there will be festivities of some sort. This will most likely be the last scheduled MD-80 here on the West Coast.
 
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Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:47 pm

Not sure if this has already been mentioned but are there any A321s in G4's future?
 
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Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:36 pm

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Does anyone have info on the final G4 MD-80 flight out of Fresno? I'm thinking of taking it, as I'm sure there will be festivities of some sort. This will most likely be the last scheduled MD-80 here on the West Coast.

It’s looking like flight 3, FAT to LAS on Nov 28th. The seat map is showing an MD-80. $129
 
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Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:12 pm

The last scheduled MD roundtrip looks to be flights 2 and 3 on November 28, LAS-FAT-LAS.

November 28, 2018
Flight #2
dep LAS 12:05pm arr FAT 1:12pm
Flight #3
dep FAT 1:57pm arr LAS 3:03pm

I haven't heard details yet, but it is rumored there will be a few special things connected with that roundtrip.

It should be a fun flight for those who can be onboard. Also should make for some nice photos at both airports. Unfortunately my schedule won't allow me to enjoy it.
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Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:49 pm

I don't believe Hurricane Michael hit the VPS area too bad. If it did, can we expect some reductions from G4 there?
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Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:20 pm

dfwjim1 wrote:
Not sure if this has already been mentioned but are there any A321s in G4's future?


It was discussed, the verdict was they were not going to get them. Same with the A320NEO
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:09 am

Any word on new route announcements.

When will Allegiant start International service.

I know they are doing some International charters out of IND.

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Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:05 am

FATFlyer wrote:
The last scheduled MD roundtrip looks to be flights 2 and 3 on November 28, LAS-FAT-LAS.

November 28, 2018
Flight #2
dep LAS 12:05pm arr FAT 1:12pm
Flight #3
dep FAT 1:57pm arr LAS 3:03pm

I haven't heard details yet, but it is rumored there will be a few special things connected with that roundtrip.

It should be a fun flight for those who can be onboard. Also should make for some nice photos at both airports. Unfortunately my schedule won't allow me to enjoy it.


I booked it. Got my favorite seat by the window in the back where the exit door is. Unlimited legroom :). With the pre-selected seat and booking the r/t with taxes, it was a about $265.00. Maybe a lot to pay for a quick MD-80 ride, but nobody is operating them out west anymore. A few years down the road, I don't want to say, "I should have done it".
 
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:02 pm

spinkid wrote:
Before I understood AC utilazation better, I didn't understand why they didn't deploy their A320's and former 757s on red eyes from LAS to the East coast. Now I understand they would have to overnight crews on those routes with low fares, its better to just park the planes.


They are now doing LAS redeyes to the Midwest.
 
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:04 pm

ibthebigd wrote:
Any word on new route announcements.

When will Allegiant start International service.

I know they are doing some International charters out of IND.

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We have a Customs facility specially for them at SBN all set up and waiting for the first SBN-CUN flights. SBN and MYR are working on seasonal service. Could be next year?
 
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:27 pm

ibthebigd wrote:
Any word on new route announcements.
When will Allegiant start International service.
I know they are doing some International charters out of IND.
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Allegiant's fleet will end the year at 77 aircraft after the fleet changeover is complete. That is the smallest number of aircraft Allegiant has had in the fleet since 2015.

But by the end of 2019, G4 forecasts they will operate between 90 and 100 aircraft, their largest fleet ever.

I expect a lot of route announcements during the next year.
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:41 pm

FATFlyer wrote:
ibthebigd wrote:
Any word on new route announcements.
When will Allegiant start International service.
I know they are doing some International charters out of IND.
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Allegiant's fleet will end the year at 77 aircraft after the fleet changeover is complete. That is the smallest number of aircraft Allegiant has had in the fleet since 2015.

But by the end of 2019, G4 forecasts they will operate between 90 and 100 aircraft, their largest fleet ever.

I expect a lot of route announcements during the next year.


How many did they have at peak this summer? They cut some routes back in the winter to make up for the plane shortage. I would expect a lot of those come back next winter. So I’m curious how many extra planes they will actually have if they are at 90.
 
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:02 pm

I'd have to go back and double check but I believe G4 reached about 90 to 95 aircraft at the peak this year. I am hedging on numbers because some of the A320s were delayed this year and some delivery dates have been shifting for 2019. I'd have to look at actual aircraft rather than summaries.

Keep in mind though that utilization of the aircraft types has been different. The MDs have been averaging only about 4.7 hours per day, the Airbus utilization per aircraft has been close to 7 hours per day. Along with fleet growth that will drive the ability to add more routes.

Then the MDs have been at 166 seats, most of the A320s will be 186 seats.
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:09 pm

I wonder if G4 will scale down and redeploy ECP flying this winter given the destruction they just suffered from the storm?
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:23 pm

PVD757 wrote:
I wonder if G4 will scale down and redeploy ECP flying this winter given the destruction they just suffered from the storm?


They do VPS I think which fared much better.

I believe it’s a year round base though it’s definitely too cold there December through February
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:30 pm

Does anyone have a delivery date yet for the one remaining new-build A320, presumably N275NV? I understand it will be delivered this year from Hamburg or Toulouse.
 
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:36 pm

RL757PVD wrote:
PVD757 wrote:
I wonder if G4 will scale down and redeploy ECP flying this winter given the destruction they just suffered from the storm?


They do VPS I think which fared much better.

I believe it’s a year round base though it’s definitely too cold there December through February


Wow, why did I think ECP?!? Thanks for clarifying LOL!
 
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:58 pm

PVD757 wrote:
RL757PVD wrote:
PVD757 wrote:
I wonder if G4 will scale down and redeploy ECP flying this winter given the destruction they just suffered from the storm?


They do VPS I think which fared much better.

I believe it’s a year round base though it’s definitely too cold there December through February


Wow, why did I think ECP?!? Thanks for clarifying LOL!


Well VPS really is the next big town next to ECP. I could see that mixup.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant? - discussion thread

Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:33 pm

So no hope that any MD80 will ever return to LAX for commercial service?
 
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:45 pm

MDGLongBeach wrote:
So no hope that any MD80 will ever return to LAX for commercial service?


I highly doubt it. AA's are gone in April, Delta's stay to/from ATL and G4's are in SFB. Unless AA does a special retirement flight. I'm sure they will but who knows if it'll involve LAX.
 
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:17 pm

An Allegiant MD-80 N878GA flew over my house from AVL-SFB this afternoon. May be the last time I see one unless we get one last visit to GSP... :cry2:
 
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Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:08 pm

When will Allegiant do their next schedule extension?

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Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:08 pm

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When will Allegiant do their next schedule extension?

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Unless someone has some insider information, I don’t think they ever publicly announce when they will extend their schedule. Last year I believe they did their next schedule extension around the last of November/first of December. I remember thinking it was rather late.
 
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Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:37 am

N241NV is en route from LCQ to PIE in fresh, complete, Allegiant livery. Can someone get a pic?
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N241NV
 
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Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:48 am

FATFlyer wrote:
ibthebigd wrote:
Any word on new route announcements.
When will Allegiant start International service.
I know they are doing some International charters out of IND.
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Allegiant's fleet will end the year at 77 aircraft after the fleet changeover is complete. That is the smallest number of aircraft Allegiant has had in the fleet since 2015.

But by the end of 2019, G4 forecasts they will operate between 90 and 100 aircraft, their largest fleet ever.

I expect a lot of route announcements during the next year.
For someone who lives within driving distance of 3 G4 cities, that’s kind of exciting.
 
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Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:36 am

freakyrat wrote:
Vegaschezhed wrote:
Allegiant starting red-eye service on 10/4 in a couple of markets. LAS-ATW depart 2355 arrive 0600. Return 0700 arrive 0849


LAS-SBN Also


I can't imagine the crew are big favorites of these flights. I imagine they work the red eye out and then work the return which is an early AM departure from both.

I also have to wonder if they are perhaps testing these out to see what bookings are like.
 
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Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:21 am

Allegiant A319 N314NV is sitting at STN in Allegiant livery with a G-EZEZ sticker over the reg number.
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9097502
 
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Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:49 am

jgcotter wrote:
Allegiant A319 N314NV is sitting at STN in Allegiant livery with a G-EZEZ sticker over the reg number.
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9097502


This is the aircraft as posted today in the a.net photo database.
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Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:27 am

Interesting stuff from the Q3 earnings call:
https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-tran ... feren.aspx

Savanthi Syth -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Hey. Good afternoon. Just a little bit of a broader question, not specific guidance for 2019, but the kind of the growth over the last few years has been, just kind of medium-sized market, maybe smaller, secondary leisure destinations, and what should we expect kind of the market characteristics to be going forward especially in a higher fuel environment?

Drew Wells -- Vice President

Sure. As you look out toward 2019, I think what you'll see is some of that continuing primarily the growth will (technical difficulty) reconnecting the dots (ph) that exist today. There's a lot of destinations and origin cities including the sight cities that have yet to be connected. In addition even in a rising fuel environment, we're constantly looking at new cities to grow the network. We communicated before one to two midsize cities a year and I think that's still the target at least in the current fuel environment if that rises, we'll certainly reconsider.

Scott DeAngelo -- Chief Marketing Officer

Yeah, so that there's really two ways that we can grow the peak days, one is shell (inaudible) so that will be the biggest help. Additionally, with the improved economics on the Airbus, we can push the hours of the day a little bit, so I would expect to see kind of your fleet wide utilization particularly on peak days grow a bit, which is consistent with how we operate the Airbus today. But once you kind of get the MDs out of there, you'll see a bit more in earnest.
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:56 pm

It’s November... which means this month the MD-80s are done. (supposedly)
 
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:48 pm

Northwest1988 wrote:
It’s November... which means this month the MD-80s are done. (supposedly)

Today the production summary on airfleets.net showed one retired today. So it has begun.

I'm curious how many are retained for a bit as spares.

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Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:19 pm

Looks like MD-83 N863GA ferried to OSC, the old Wurtsmith AFB, on 10/15 for storage/salvage.
 
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:25 pm

The G4 base at TYS opens next week. Does anyone know the registration numbers of the 2 A320s that will be coming here and from which base they are coming?

On a side note, UA recently reduced service on both AVL/TYS-EWR. AVL is now a seasonal 50 seat RJ and TYS is a year round 50 seat RJ. It didn’t take long for G4 to increase service on both. TYS was increased this week starting in mid February ‘19 from twice weekly to 5 weekly. TYS didn’t even operate Jan-May of this year. AVL was increased from 3-4 weekly to 5 weekly as well. Hopefully G4 will fair better now that UA has backed off on protecting these 2 routes.
 
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Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:26 pm

A319 N315NV (former G-EJAR) ferried STN-BGR-BQN on 10/31. N314NV (former G-EZEZ) is still sitting at STN. So it looks like 315 will be the 32nd A319 placed in revenue service to close out the year, according to the investor guidance fleet plan.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:49 pm

I'm assuming most of the MD80's are remaining in service until the retirement date at the end of the month?
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:43 am

While most of the major Midwestern metro areas already have nonstop service to SAV on either G4 or legacy carriers, there is currently no nonstop service to SAV from MCI, MKE, or BLV. G4 could add nonstop service to SAV from MCI, MKE, and BLV since MCI, MKE, and BLV are located in the largest Midwestern markets that don't currently have any nonstop service to SAV.

Will G4 ever add MCI-SAV, MKE-SAV, or BLV-SAV nonstop service?
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:18 pm

A319 N314NV (former G-EZEZ) is en route from STN to BGR. 33 x A319 on property now at Allegiant.
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:00 pm

Article today on Allegiant retiring MD-80 aircraft.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... 16-453385/
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:42 pm

jgcotter wrote:
A319 N314NV (former G-EZEZ) is en route from STN to BGR. 33 x A319 on property now at Allegiant.

Update: A319 N314NV (former G-EZEZ) is en route from STN-BGR-BQN. 33 x A319 on property now at Allegiant.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N314NV
 
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Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:43 pm

MD-82 N886GA ferried to OSC, the old Wurtsmith AFB, on 11/6 for storage/salvage.
18 x MD-80 remaining at Allegiant.
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:40 pm

Is G4 going to be announcing any new nonstop routes to SAV such as MCI-SAV, BLV-SAV, and/or MKE-SAV tomorrow? While most of the major Midwestern metro areas already have nonstop service to SAV on either legacy carriers or G4, there are a few major markets in the Midwest such as MCI, BLV, and MKE that don't have nonstop service to SAV. G4 has opportunities to further expand at SAV, and there are nonstop routes such as MCI-SAV, BLV-SAV, and MKE-SAV that could be added by G4.
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:56 pm

I read an article back in April and an Allegiant or IND airport spokesperson (can't remember which entity the person represented) said Allegiant could announce more by Fall 2018. I guess we'll find out for sure tomorrow.

I am also assuming the end of May, June, July schedules will extend by tomorrow as well?
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:50 am

I’m really hoping for something new from
CID, would love to see CID to MYR and VPS. It’s been a while since we had LAX added
 
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:39 am

The schedule appears to be extended now with new routes trickling in.

I see MSY-SDF now on the map, but no schedule yet.
 
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:52 am

Looks like they are increasing frequencies on some routes. CVG-VPS is going 11x/wk, CVG-SAV is 7x/wk, and CVG-SRQ/MYR are now 4x/wk.
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