csweet wrote:

Are there any new routes scheduled to be announced in the near future?

TYSflyer wrote:

william wrote:

TYSflyer wrote:

Question for those more in the know about Allegiant? I was perusing the recent schedule extension for G4. Starting in early November most all of the G4 flights from TYS appear to originate and end in TYS. The only exceptions I have found are busy travel days around holidays. It appears there are 2 frames running the schedule from TYS. However, there has been no mention of a new base here. What are your all’s thoughts? A scheduling error, temporary base or permanent base that has yet to be announced?

Per this pilot forum, TYS starts this November with two planes. Scroll to the middle.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/alle ... ses-2.html

Midwestindy wrote:

TYSflyer wrote:

Question for those more in the know about Allegiant? I was perusing the recent schedule extension for G4. Starting in early November most all of the G4 flights from TYS appear to originate and end in TYS. The only exceptions I have found are busy travel days around holidays. It appears there are 2 frames running the schedule from TYS. However, there has been no mention of a new base here. What are your all’s thoughts? A scheduling error, temporary base or permanent base that has yet to be announced?

TYS is supposed to be the next G4 base, starting in November with 2 a/c. Hasn't been announced yet, but probably will be soon.

Thank you both. I am quite excited about this. Midwestindy, do you notice a lot of idol time for their aircraft at their base in IND? Right now, if schedule holds true at TYS, there will be no flying on Tuesday and only 1 flight on Wednesday in January. Granted this is during their low season. Maybe they do maintenance these days?

janders wrote:

Lukas Johnson SVP Commercial (head network guy) just resigned for undisclosed other opportunity.

https://skift.com/2018/05/18/an-allegia ... t-resigns/

jgcotter wrote:

Allegiant A320 N256NV is en route from BFM to SFB for entry into active service. 33 x A320 on property now at Allegiant.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N256NV

Northwest1988 wrote:

With all the G4 growth in the southeast it makes me wonder... will GSP ever grow again? They are one of the oldest cities Allegiant serves on the east coast. Everywhere around GSP has exploded with growth. AVL, TYS, CHS and USA are very popular but GSP has remained stagnant. About 9 years ago there were even rumors of GSP becoming a base, however the base ultimately went to AVL. Any thoughts?

jgcotter wrote:

Allegiant A320 N256NV is en route from BFM to SFB for entry into active service. 33 x A320 on property now at Allegiant.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N256NV

TYSflyer wrote:

Northwest1988 wrote:

With all the G4 growth in the southeast it makes me wonder... will GSP ever grow again? They are one of the oldest cities Allegiant serves on the east coast. Everywhere around GSP has exploded with growth. AVL, TYS, CHS and USA are very popular but GSP has remained stagnant. About 9 years ago there were even rumors of GSP becoming a base, however the base ultimately went to AVL. Any thoughts?

Great question. I have often wondered the same things. Maybe WN entering GSP stagnated the G4 market as they entered the market 8 years ago? I believe GSP was one of the original PGD markets and also had LAS service for a brief period. So at one point it was a growing market for them. Thoughts?

ibthebigd wrote:

I wonder how Sarasota is doing?

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ibthebigd wrote:

I wonder how Sarasota is doing?

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Midwestindy wrote:

ibthebigd wrote:

I wonder how Sarasota is doing?

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http://www.bradenton.com/news/business/ ... 57239.html

"Our next opportunities will be with Allegiant and our other existing airlines: Delta, United and American," Piccolo said.

In April, Allegiant began offering budget service between SRQ and Indianapolis, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh.

"They are here and they are doing so well," Piccolo said of the possibility of even more Allegiant routes.

727LOVER wrote:

Midwestindy wrote:

ibthebigd wrote:

I wonder how Sarasota is doing?

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http://www.bradenton.com/news/business/ ... 57239.html

"Our next opportunities will be with Allegiant and our other existing airlines: Delta, United and American," Piccolo said.

In April, Allegiant began offering budget service between SRQ and Indianapolis, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh.

"They are here and they are doing so well," Piccolo said of the possibility of even more Allegiant routes.

Hardly ubbiased. What else is he going to say?

Also from that article,
Asked about landing Southwest Airlines, Piccolo said SRQ officials keep talking with the airline.

"We have another meeting with them Wednesday. It's a matter of when, and not if," he said.


WHEN could be 2037. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it, but I'm not holding my breath.

ibthebigd wrote:

I would love to see RNO as a destination I think it would do well.

william wrote:

Hate to see the Aus-Tampa route gone.

masonh2479 wrote:

william wrote:

Hate to see the Aus-Tampa route gone.

Indeed, I wonder what happened. I thought their load factors were normal.

freakyrat wrote:

masonh2479 wrote:

william wrote:

Hate to see the Aus-Tampa route gone.

Indeed, I wonder what happened. I thought their load factors were normal.

Maybe do to a teporary shortage of aircraft. Some of G4's Airbus's are in for C checks and a special wingbox inspection.

freakyrat wrote:

masonh2479 wrote:

william wrote:

Hate to see the Aus-Tampa route gone.

Indeed, I wonder what happened. I thought their load factors were normal.

Maybe do to a teporary shortage of aircraft. Some of G4's Airbus's are in for C checks and a special wingbox inspection.

deltadudejg wrote:

freakyrat wrote:

masonh2479 wrote:

Indeed, I wonder what happened. I thought their load factors were normal.

Maybe do to a teporary shortage of aircraft. Some of G4's Airbus's are in for C checks and a special wingbox inspection.

I don't think they loaded the full schedule for the fall. I as well don't think the Austin flight is going away.

deltadudejg wrote:

They cancelled flights out if AZA, SFB, and PGD as well. On the upside today was the inaugural PIE-BNA flight.

"I want to be clear that this is not an issue with the new Airbus entering our fleet from Airbus manufacturing," Levy said. "This is an issue with new-to-fleet used aircraft that still go through an induction process and are currently being held up by a leasing company we’re transacting with."
http://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2018/06/15/more-cancellations--rescheduling-for-allegiant-flights

FATFlyer wrote:

Allegiant is saying:

"I want to be clear that this is not an issue with the new Airbus entering our fleet from Airbus manufacturing," Levy said. "This is an issue with new-to-fleet used aircraft that still go through an induction process and are currently being held up by a leasing company we’re transacting with."
http://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2018/06/15/more-cancellations--rescheduling-for-allegiant-flights

Allegiant is attempting an aggressive fleet change schedule this year.

At 2017 year-end:
37 out of 89 aircraft were MDs (over 40% of the fleet)
At 2018 year-end:
0 out of 82 aircraft will be MDs

But interestingly 2nd and 3rd quarter of 2018 were to have a larger then normal fleet count during the transition overlap per their fleet plan:
Q1 2018 - 88 total aircraft
Q2 2018 - 99 total aircraft
Q3 2018 - 95 total aircraft
Q4 2018 - 82 total aircraft

Those total aircraft numbers makes this an interesting situation to see.

727LOVER wrote:

All I hear is SHOULD HAVE KEPT THE LAST 3 MD-80s A LITTLE LONGER


Any hope of some being pulled from the desert?

jgcotter wrote:

FATFlyer wrote:

Allegiant is saying:

"I want to be clear that this is not an issue with the new Airbus entering our fleet from Airbus manufacturing," Levy said. "This is an issue with new-to-fleet used aircraft that still go through an induction process and are currently being held up by a leasing company we’re transacting with."
http://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2018/06/15/more-cancellations--rescheduling-for-allegiant-flights

I’ve been keeping pretty close track of this as well, and as FATFlyer accurately pointed out, the two remaining new 320s aren’t due until July and some time in the fall. There are currently seven 320s and one 319 in refurb around the world, as illustrated below, and these probably account for the late-to-need deliveries. They have been sitting at GYR and LCQ for quite a while. The ones at BQN, SOF and SNN just arrived recently.

FWAERJ wrote:

With Airbus stopping deliveries to Iran and G4 being an "opportunistic" airplane buyer, could we see G4 take some of the white tail A32x that were originally destined for IR, even the NEOs if the price is right?

The CEOs that IR was slated to get have CFM engines, and the NEOs that were planned for IR would have had LEAPs. The only potential problem is that many of the planes are A321s that G4 doesn't have currently. But for some high volume routes, especially at midsize city bases like PIT and IND and small markets with continued high demand like RFD and Canadian border cities, a 230 seat A321 would be perfect. I bet someone in Vegas might be calling TLS right now.

FATFlyer wrote:

Looking at the Airbus order/delivery spreadsheet, IR's order had only 8 A321s (all CEOs). But the order had 6 A320CEOs and 32 A320NEOs.

Allegiant has said their focus now is used A320CEOs. But if financial terms and dates met G4's needs I would not be surprised if they took a few more new A320CEOs. The question is how good of a price would Airbus offer vs the used market.

FWAERJ wrote:

FATFlyer wrote:

Looking at the Airbus order/delivery spreadsheet, IR's order had only 8 A321s (all CEOs). But the order had 6 A320CEOs and 32 A320NEOs.

Allegiant has said their focus now is used A320CEOs. But if financial terms and dates met G4's needs I would not be surprised if they took a few more new A320CEOs. The question is how good of a price would Airbus offer vs the used market.

Since the IR planes were to be delivered soon, I'm sure Airbus will offer a sweetheart deal to anyone that prefers the CEO to the NEO. Allegiant is one of the few airlines left that do for the A320 (not counting A321, where CEO demand remains high). And both Airbus and Boeing often discount white tails significantly to anyone who wants them. Remember that WN started with three white tail 737s that Boeing offered for not much, and Airbus got its foothold in the US by offering four white tail A300s to EA on a trade trial.

In addition, G4 has already gone from 12 to 13 new-build A320s. Adding another six with rapid availability and special pricing may be too good for G4 to pass up.

pwm2txlhopper wrote:

A320 Reg. N260NV is currently enroute to BGR from SNN. These have been coming through BGR every few weeks in recent months. I've seen at least four come through.

This is former Saudi Arabian AIrlines Reg. HZ-AS13

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N260NV