WeatherPilot wrote:

With the direction B6 seems to be going G4 will have an opportunity to scoop up those A320's as well.

jgcotter wrote:

N254NV, the incident aircraft that struck the parked aircraft, is back in the air. All three incident aircraft are now back in service.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N254NV

SXDFC wrote:

What’s the odds of the A220 wearing a G4 livery?

jgcotter wrote:

jgcotter wrote:

N254NV, the incident aircraft that struck the parked aircraft, is back in the air. All three incident aircraft are now back in service.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N254NV

Hmmm... please disregard previous. Filed as 254, delayed by an hour, then flown by 255. 254 is apparently still sitting at VPS.

nmdrdh787 wrote:

Has anyone heard about the intl expansion? I saw a FlightGlobal article on it a while ago, but nothing since.

Really think its a great expansion point if done right...

beau222 wrote:

No all three still sit here N250NV is the third Acft.

FWAERJ wrote:

WeatherPilot wrote:

With the direction B6 seems to be going G4 will have an opportunity to scoop up those A320's as well.

B6 A320s are IAE-powered, and Allegiant only buys CFM56 ones.

What's more likely, IMO, is an order at Farnborough for last-off-the-line CEOs. The IR ones that Airbus is pitching to G4 are all CFM.

rj1385 wrote:

G4 also made a deal to use easyJet's orange color on the planes they ordered direct from Airbus. Wonder if some funneling of use aircraft maybe sourced there too.

WeatherPilot wrote:

With the direction B6 seems to be going G4 will have an opportunity to scoop up those A320's as well.

freakyrat wrote:

nmdrdh787 wrote:

Has anyone heard about the intl expansion? I saw a FlightGlobal article on it a while ago, but nothing since.

Really think its a great expansion point if done right...

The FIS facility at SBN was built at the request of Allegiant. Airport is working on seasonal twice a week SBN-CUN. Allegiant just isn't ready for International yet.

nmdrdh787 wrote:

freakyrat wrote:

nmdrdh787 wrote:

Has anyone heard about the intl expansion? I saw a FlightGlobal article on it a while ago, but nothing since.

Really think its a great expansion point if done right...

The FIS facility at SBN was built at the request of Allegiant. Airport is working on seasonal twice a week SBN-CUN. Allegiant just isn't ready for International yet.

Not ready because of aircraft, internal systems, ops or all of the above?

freakyrat wrote:

nmdrdh787 wrote:

freakyrat wrote:

The FIS facility at SBN was built at the request of Allegiant. Airport is working on seasonal twice a week SBN-CUN. Allegiant just isn't ready for International yet.

Not ready because of aircraft, internal systems, ops or all of the above?

I believe it is internal systems and operations. I also wonder if their aircraft are ETOPS certified. I think the SBN FIS now has it's full certification.

dsuairptman wrote:

freakyrat wrote:

nmdrdh787 wrote:

Not ready because of aircraft, internal systems, ops or all of the above?

I believe it is internal systems and operations. I also wonder if their aircraft are ETOPS certified. I think the SBN FIS now has it's full certification.

Allegiant does not operate any ETOPS certified aircraft. ETOPS ended with retirement of the 757.

dsuairptman wrote:

freakyrat wrote:

nmdrdh787 wrote:

Not ready because of aircraft, internal systems, ops or all of the above?

I believe it is internal systems and operations. I also wonder if their aircraft are ETOPS certified. I think the SBN FIS now has it's full certification.

Allegiant does not operate any ETOPS certified aircraft. ETOPS ended with retirement of the 757.

freakyrat wrote:

dsuairptman wrote:

freakyrat wrote:

I believe it is internal systems and operations. I also wonder if their aircraft are ETOPS certified. I think the SBN FIS now has it's full certification.

Allegiant does not operate any ETOPS certified aircraft. ETOPS ended with retirement of the 757.

I don't think a SBN-CUN flight would require ETOPS.

727LOVER wrote:

QUESTION:

N271NV is in a livery dedicated to Winter, the dolphin.
Winter, the dolphin's home is @ Clearwater Marine Quarium in Clearwater, Fl. It is minutes from PIE,a G4 base.
But yet this aircraft seems to be based @ Phoenix-Mesa.
W H Y?

727LOVER wrote:

QUESTION:

N271NV is in a livery dedicated to Winter, the dolphin.
Winter, the dolphin's home is @ Clearwater Marine Quarium in Clearwater, Fl. It is minutes from PIE,a G4 base.
But yet this aircraft seems to be based @ Phoenix-Mesa.
W H Y?

jgcotter wrote:

Allegiant MD83 N871GA retired to VCV on 31 Aug 18.
25 x MD80 on property now at Allegiant.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N871GA

Northwest1988 wrote:

Does anyone have any info on what and when the last MD-80 flights will be yet? I know they are scheduled for retirement just after thanksgiving, but do we know what the last flights will be out of SFB and LAS?

lightsaber wrote:

Out of curiosity, how many A319s are expected at the end of the year?

A319:. 32+?
A320: 50
MD-80 zero

Minimum 82+

Versus today
A319: 32
A320: 41
MD-80 25

98 (but more standby MD-80 and a delay for A320 in service).

I'm just curious at how many fewer aircraft.

Lightsaber

FATFlyer wrote:

Northwest1988 wrote:

Does anyone have any info on what and when the last MD-80 flights will be yet? I know they are scheduled for retirement just after thanksgiving, but do we know what the last flights will be out of SFB and LAS?

Some of that was posted several months ago upthread.

Allegiant execs have been saying for months that the last MD scheduled revenue flight will be on November 25, 2018. But no announcement yet what route will see the last flight.

Personally I have said before it would be fun to see the last MD flight operate FAT-LAS. That was G4's first scheduled route on the DC-9 years ago

FATFlyer wrote:

lightsaber wrote:

Out of curiosity, how many A319s are expected at the end of the year?

A319:. 32+?
A320: 50
MD-80 zero

Minimum 82+

Versus today
A319: 32
A320: 41
MD-80 25

98 (but more standby MD-80 and a delay for A320 in service).

I'm just curious at how many fewer aircraft.

Lightsaber

That was in the 2nd quarter financials press release. They plan 31 A319s at the end of Q3 and 32 at year end.
http://ir.allegiantair.com/news-releases/news-release-details/allegiant-travel-company-second-quarter-2018-financial-results


Aircraft fleet plan by end of period
Aircraft 1Q18 2Q18 3Q18 YE18
MD-80 (166 seats) 32 27 19 —
A319 (156 seats) 26 31 31 32
A320 (177/186 seats) 30 35 44 45
Total 88 93 94 77

cbphoto wrote:

jgcotter wrote:

pwm2txlhopper wrote:

A320 Reg. N260NV is currently enroute to BGR from SNN. These have been coming through BGR every few weeks in recent months. I've seen at least four come through.

This is former Saudi Arabian AIrlines Reg. HZ-AS13

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N260NV

Allegiant A320 N260NV is now en route from BGR to SAL for further refurb before entry into active service.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N260NV

Rumors are these Saudi birds are the reason for the entry into service delays at G4.. Lots of issues with dust, and non certified components on them.

cbphoto wrote:

If I was a betting man, I would say one route might have the honor of the last scheduled flight, but I would imagine the MD-80 subbing some of the scheduled Airbus routes until the very end. So I don’t know if the last MD-80 route would ever be announced.

Also rumors are flying around (no pun intended) that the 80s may stick around until the end of March 2019 to help with the slower inductions of the Airbus and to help augment the airbus fleet until more come on property. Of course, I’ll believe it when the 80 is still flying on Jan 1st, 2019.

lightsaber wrote:

Thank you. So 50 A320 is later? A drop of 17 aircraft is substantial.
I'm surprised they haven't taken in more A319. I speculate the LEAP-1A shortfall has Easyjet extending leases and thus temporarily drying up the supply.
I find Allegiant fleet management facinating as their model is different than most airlines. It works...
Lightsaber

FATFlyer wrote:

But with fuel rising they stated they will also be doing some route and frequency trimming (routes have to meet G4's margin goals).

FATFlyer wrote:

cbphoto wrote:

If I was a betting man, I would say one route might have the honor of the last scheduled flight, but I would imagine the MD-80 subbing some of the scheduled Airbus routes until the very end. So I don’t know if the last MD-80 route would ever be announced.

Also rumors are flying around (no pun intended) that the 80s may stick around until the end of March 2019 to help with the slower inductions of the Airbus and to help augment the airbus fleet until more come on property. Of course, I’ll believe it when the 80 is still flying on Jan 1st, 2019.

lightsaber wrote:

Thank you. So 50 A320 is later? A drop of 17 aircraft is substantial.
I'm surprised they haven't taken in more A319. I speculate the LEAP-1A shortfall has Easyjet extending leases and thus temporarily drying up the supply.
I find Allegiant fleet management facinating as their model is different than most airlines. It works...
Lightsaber

During last month's conference call Allegiant indicated the last day for scheduled MD flying remains in November.

They also readjusted the fleet plan due to the problems with aircraft arrival. They pushed several aircraft into the 2019 fleet schedule so the total now is lower for the end of this year than previously planned.

It was supposed to 82 aircraft at year-end but will now be 77.

But with fuel rising they stated they will also be doing some route and frequency trimming (routes have to meet G4's margin goals). That will help with the temporarily smaller fleet.

Also FYI, the financing for Sunseeker Resort should be revealed in the next 2 months. After that G4 plans an investor presentation focused only on the resort. That will give better data and info about the resort.

Northwest1988 wrote:

Does anyone have any info on what and when the last MD-80 flights will be yet? I know they are scheduled for retirement just after thanksgiving, but do we know what the last flights will be out of SFB and LAS?

nkops wrote:

Northwest1988 wrote:

Does anyone have any info on what and when the last MD-80 flights will be yet? I know they are scheduled for retirement just after thanksgiving, but do we know what the last flights will be out of SFB and LAS?

I am guessing it will probably be SFB.. I believe all the 80's have been moved out of LAS . SFB is the only MD-80 base left I thought

cbphoto wrote:

FATFlyer wrote:

cbphoto wrote:

If I was a betting man, I would say one route might have the honor of the last scheduled flight, but I would imagine the MD-80 subbing some of the scheduled Airbus routes until the very end. So I don’t know if the last MD-80 route would ever be announced.

Also rumors are flying around (no pun intended) that the 80s may stick around until the end of March 2019 to help with the slower inductions of the Airbus and to help augment the airbus fleet until more come on property. Of course, I’ll believe it when the 80 is still flying on Jan 1st, 2019.

lightsaber wrote:

Thank you. So 50 A320 is later? A drop of 17 aircraft is substantial.
I'm surprised they haven't taken in more A319. I speculate the LEAP-1A shortfall has Easyjet extending leases and thus temporarily drying up the supply.
I find Allegiant fleet management facinating as their model is different than most airlines. It works...
Lightsaber

During last month's conference call Allegiant indicated the last day for scheduled MD flying remains in November.

They also readjusted the fleet plan due to the problems with aircraft arrival. They pushed several aircraft into the 2019 fleet schedule so the total now is lower for the end of this year than previously planned.

It was supposed to 82 aircraft at year-end but will now be 77.

But with fuel rising they stated they will also be doing some route and frequency trimming (routes have to meet G4's margin goals). That will help with the temporarily smaller fleet.

Also FYI, the financing for Sunseeker Resort should be revealed in the next 2 months. After that G4 plans an investor presentation focused only on the resort. That will give better data and info about the resort.

Thanks boss..I’m privy to that same information you quoted. It’s not necessarily about fleet count, as it is about reliability of said fleet. The 80s do a lot of rescuing for the airbus fleet, especially the older ones on property. A few people have have been rumored to be looking into the possibility of extending the fleet by a few months. Of course, I’ll belive it when I see it. The 80s are paid for, and would essentially not cost Allegiant anything to extend the fleet by a few months for ready spares for the east coast operation.

727LOVER wrote:

FATFlyer wrote:

But with fuel rising they stated they will also be doing some route and frequency trimming (routes have to meet G4's margin goals).

Any indication or guesses which routes these might be?

cbphoto wrote:

Thanks boss..I’m privy to that same information you quoted. It’s not necessarily about fleet count, as it is about reliability of said fleet. The 80s do a lot of rescuing for the airbus fleet, especially the older ones on property. A few people have have been rumored to be looking into the possibility of extending the fleet by a few months. Of course, I’ll belive it when I see it. The 80s are paid for, and would essentially not cost Allegiant anything to extend the fleet by a few months for ready spares for the east coast operation.